[Q] Best full backup for non-rooted tablet - Asus Transformer TF700

Hi guys,
I just bought the TF700T and I'm loving it. However, I find that restoring my tablet to my own specification after updating the device is a bit tiresome. Now the reason I'm doing the factory reset is because I read online that THAT'S what you're supposed to do after updating the device (if that's not the case, feel free to let me know). Regardless, I'm hoping that there's an app out there (paid is perfectly fine) that will restore my device to my original configuration after a factory reset. Things that I'd like it to do are as follows:
1) Automatically re-download all my Google Play apps. I have other android devices, so I'd need the app to remember which apps were installed on the Infinity, and then download them after the reset. Also remembering their custom settings would be nice, too!
2) Backup media folders that I designate
3) If possible, restore widgets that I had set previously (though not necessary).
Lastly, I don't have root access and don't really plan on doing it.
Thank you!

if you are on stock unrooted ice cream and are trying to go to stock unrooted JB then you shouldnt need to do a factory reset. it should DL the update over the air and then install over ICS while keeping all your apps and files as they are.
but if you facotry reset, it will all be gone. titanium backup will do what you need, only if you root.

bloodylipp said:
if you are on stock unrooted ice cream and are trying to go to stock unrooted JB then you shouldnt need to do a factory reset. it should DL the update over the air and then install over ICS while keeping all your apps and files as they are.
but if you facotry reset, it will all be gone. titanium backup will do what you need, only if you root.
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Thanks for your reply. The only reason I'm doing factory resets is because of a "guide" that purports that doing so will ensure flawless update. I personally do not know for sure.

sakage.shinga said:
Thanks for your reply. The only reason I'm doing factory resets is because of a "guide" that purports that doing so will ensure flawless update. I personally do not know for sure.
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You should do a factory reset after you manually downgraded the firmware. If you just accept the OTA updates, you should never need to reset. Which "guide" was that?

_that said:
You should do a factory reset after you manually downgraded the firmware. If you just accept the OTA updates, you should never need to reset. Which "guide" was that?
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Oops I can't post links yet, but it's over at the transformerforums. Just google "How to update your firmware OTA - incremental changes & full OS updates"
But if you say it's not necessary, then I won't do it. Too much of a hassle for me to reconfigure all of my apps over something as small as an OTA update.
Thanks!

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factory reset with root?

sorry if this is asked before but can i do a factory reset in the settings if i have root? or would i have to unroot before doing the factory reset. is there a easier method to wipe all data?
I want to know the answer too. If you only did a pure root, what happens when you do a security wipe? Will it retain the root, or will it resets Tf back to factory (unrooted)?
can anyone help us out?
I too would like to know the answer.
My transformer is a bit cluttered and takes ages to boot, so I would like to factory reset.
I have searched for ages on the net, but I can't find a definitive answer.
My transformer did the latest OTA uk.
Any help much appreciated.
guys root is contained in the system partition which is not touched. in factory reset data is touched.
if you use the new root method nachoroot then you may need to reinstall superuser from market.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
pashinator said:
guys root is contained in the system partition which is not touched. in factory reset data is touched.
if you use the new root method nachoroot then you may need to reinstall superuser from market.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
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I can tell you that if you boot in to hBoot and do a factory reset you will not lose SU access. I'd done it my self. I made the mistake of trying to do the factory OTA on a device with CWRI. So i just wiped it and reboot like a "new" unit and still had SuperUser.
did you only root your device and keep it completely stock?
Or did you install Clockwork Mod Recovery as well?
My personal opinion is that if you root you should install a custom recovery especially with how easy it is on the transformer. This has many benefits, with few if any bad consequences, i suppose it will require extra steps to go back to stock, but unless you need to send it in to be repaired under warranty theres not much reason to go back to stock(This is my opinion Only)
By installing a custom recovery you gain the ability to do a full backup anexact copy of the system and everything on it if you did that originally you would be able to go back to that point eliinating all the built up garbage. but you also gain the ability to do a full wipe and restore stock or custom firmware from scratch
Again my personal preference is a custom recovery and a custom firmware mine runs at least 10 times faster and more reliable than it was when i first got it. Just in the last 3 days i did a cmplete wipe myself as i was noticing alot of built up stuff and reloaded everything esily and am very satisfied.
neofreek01 said:
My personal opinion is that if you root you should install a custom recovery especially with how easy it is on the transformer. This has many benefits, with few if any bad consequences, i suppose it will require extra steps to go back to stock, but unless you need to send it in to be repaired under warranty theres not much reason to go back to stock(This is my opinion Only)
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One drawback (on stock rom) is that automatic OTA updates from Asus will fail. But there is an alternative to apply the OTA update.
If your rooted you really should have cwm recovery installed. If you have cwm recovery why not just boot into recovery and do a factory data reset

[Q] factory reset after one click root

just use the one click root tool by kennethpenn, work perfectly thanks. use titanium back to do a backup of all the app and system then took out all the att bloatware. i have few questions at this point.
1.
will i be able to get OTA updates from att? what will happen to all the bloatware that i deleted? would they appear again?
2.
what happens if i do a factory reset on the phone? would i brick the phone? under normal condition that will erase all apps i installed and return it to factory setting, that means all the att bloatware will be back? will i lost root?
3.
what other things i can do after i root the phone at this point?
thank you for your help
no one can help me with those questions??? anyone???
i am sure a lot of people have the same question.
1.
will i be able to get OTA updates from att? what will happen to all the bloatware that i deleted? would they appear again?
I'm not 100% sure on this, but as long as you're running an actual AT&T ROM (not an Asian or Rogers ROM), you'll be notified of the OTA's. Now, if you're not using the stock Recovery image (that is, if you've installed CWM Recovery), you won't be able to apply the update. OTA updates get applied via the stock Recovery image.
2.
what happens if i do a factory reset on the phone? would i brick the phone? under normal condition that will erase all apps i installed and return it to factory setting, that means all the att bloatware will be back? will i lost root?
If you do a factory reset from CWM or within the phone's UI, you're fine. Root will remain in place, and you won't brick it. It just clears the user data from the phone, and should leave "sdcard" intact. However, I'm not 100% sure what happens if you do a factory reset from the bootloader. So just don't do it that way, unless someone else can confirm that it's okay.
3.
what other things i can do after i root the phone at this point?
You ca use apps like AutoKiller to change your memory management, for one. That's about all I'm doing with root right now. If we ever get custom kernels, you'll be able to overclock your CPU. If you search the Play Store for "root," you'd doubtlessly find some other root apps that you may be interested in.
Hope this helps!
Don't ever ever ever install an OTA on any rooted Android device. At the least, it won't work anyway, or you will lose root. At the worst, you will be stuck in a bootloop. Updated ROMs (based on the OTA's, but rooted, and safe to flash) usually get posted in Development soon after the OTA's go out. That is what you want to install.
craig0r said:
However, I'm not 100% sure what happens if you do a factory reset from the bootloader. So just don't do it that way, unless someone else can confirm that it's okay.
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I can confirm that it's OK. My phone was rooted and stuck in a boot loop. I did a factory reset. It was reset and still rooted after the fact. So you can do it.
thank you all
redpoint73 said:
Don't ever ever ever install an OTA on any rooted Android device. At the least, it won't work anyway, or you will lose root. At the worst, you will be stuck in a bootloop. Updated ROMs (based on the OTA's, but rooted, and safe to flash) usually get posted in Development soon after the OTA's go out. That is what you want to install.
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Just to clarify, pre-rooted versions of the official ROMs (which often get posted on XDA, as I mentioned) may need unlocked bootloader to install, so this will possibly not be an option for a while. Although there may be alternate safe ways to update (but not OTA). For instance, a leaked 1.83 firmware version is already available as an RUU in the Development subforum. Apparently, its okay to install via RUU, then re-root.
In general, the safe thing to do is to read up on here when updates are released, and see if there is a safe way to update on a rooted phone.

OTA Best Practices (Jelly Bean Content)

So, since "Jelly Day" is nigh, I was wondering what everyone's update strategy is. I'm thinking my process is going to look like this:
Backup root w/ OTA Rootkeeper/SuperSU
(Root) Unfreeze all the system apps I have frozen
(Root) Do a Titanium Backup
Do an ASUS Backup
(Root) Restore build.prop (was Clean RAM, but this is overkill)
Clear Caches
Cold Boot
Hit "Update"
Wait...
After Final Boot: Factory Reset
Cold Boot
Setup System via Standard menu
Restore Root if possible
Check for Adobe Flash (post JB Factory Reset may wipe it), install if necessary
Restore apps
(Root) Freeze unwanted apps.
I'm a little tempted to factory reset before and after the update. I might copy my entire /sdcard to an external HDD prior, too. I do this occasionally as a backup method.
Do any of you guys have other approaches. I know there have been times when I have just hit update without thinking about it much and let it rip. But I want JB to be... special.
zenaxe said:
So, since "Jelly Day" is nigh, I was wondering what everyone's update strategy is. I'm thinking my process is going to look like this:
Backup root w/ OTA Rootkeeper/SuperSU
(Root) Unfreeze all the system apps I have frozen
(Root) Do a Titanium Backup
Do an ASUS Backup
Clean RAM
Clear Caches
Cold Boot
Hit "Update"
Wait...
After Final Boot: Factory Reset
Cold Boot
Setup System via Standard menu
Restore Root if possible
Check for Adobe Flash (post JB Factory Reset may wipe it), install if necessary
Restore apps
(Root) Freeze unwanted apps.
I'm a little tempted to factory reset before and after the update. I might copy my entire /sdcard to an external HDD prior, too. I do this occasionally as a backup method.
Do any of you guys have other approaches. I know there have been times when I have just hit update without thinking about it much and let it rip. But I want JB to be... special.
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Step 5...clean RAM?
I thought about factory reset, but JB is a minor update over ICS versus ICS over Gb, so I'll probably skip the factory reset unless I experience odd issues.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity Running Tapatalk.
Factory reset wipes internal sd right?
czerdrill said:
Factory reset wipes internal sd right?
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Yep. Any apps or data will need to be restored.
re Clean RAM: By that I basically meant run FMR memory cleaner. Now that I think about it that IS overkill... since caches will be cleared and a reboot will follow. I mostly just use FMR to reduce crashes due to memory fragmentation.
Wait for a top Rom maker to release their own version. Install that instead.
Good things come to those who wait.
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Yep. Any apps or data will need to be restored.
re Clean RAM: By that I basically meant run FMR memory cleaner. Now that I think about it that IS overkill... since caches will be cleared and a reboot will follow. I mostly just use FMR to reduce crashes due to memory fragmentation.
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I'm new to the Infinity, so I have yet to see what this FMR is...and I'm kicking myself for taking the .30 update before I read that it breaks nvflash for the TF700....
But I understand following the accepted method since that has always worked
Diogenes5 said:
Wait for a top Rom maker to release their own version. Install that instead.
Good things come to those who wait.
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The ROM developers won't be able to actually update the current ICS to JB, though, right? They'll be ROMs that you need to install on systems that have already been updated to JB first, right, or am I mistaken in this?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity Running Tapatalk.
johnlgalt said:
I'm new to the Infinity, so I have yet to see what this FMR is...and I'm kicking myself for taking the .30 update before I read that it breaks nvflash for the TF700....
But I understand following the accepted method since that has always worked
The ROM developers won't be able to actually update the current ICS to JB, though, right? They'll be ROMs that you need to install on systems that have already been updated to JB first, right, or am I mistaken in this?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity Running Tapatalk.
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Can't update current ICS roms to JB. I mean you can sorta, but you have to start with the JB framework first. I'm confused I guess by your question.
You don't need to be on jellybean to install a Jellybean ROM. You can be on ICS, it doesnt frankly matter, so long as you have a recovery and unlocked bootloader
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There should be no prep work folks. Use titanium to backup your stuff....accept the OTA after applying rootkeeper and restore apps after reboot. Caches and Dalvik will already be cleared from the OTA drop
Thanks for the list. Reminded me of a couple of things, i had not thought of. With .30 update i forgot to use voodoo and it took me most of an afternoon to get it to install.
thanks
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woodsonmh said:
Thanks for the list. Reminded me of a couple of things, i had not thought of. With .30 update i forgot to use voodoo and it took me most of an afternoon to get it to install.
thanks
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Yeah, I had some similar mucking about.
Anyone know if an OTA Rootkeeper su-backup survives a factory Reset? I assume it does. It could be a problem with my current with my current list otherwise.
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Anyone know if an OTA Rootkeeper su-backup survives a factory Reset? I assume it does. It could be a problem with my current with my current list otherwise.
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I believe it does. We use a bunch of TF300's at work. Occasionally I factory reset them, and the steps I use to get root back is:
1) Install Superuser
2) Install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper
3) Open Superuser once
4) Open Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper -> Restore root
johnlgalt said:
I have yet to see what this FMR is
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FMR Memory Cleaner. I use it to free mem before playing gfx intensive games.
Hopefully the JB update will also have the nvidia drivers fixed, so that reboot+FMR is not required anymore.
Another thing to think about: Restore build.prop prior to update. Sounds like modified build.props can hose the OTA.

Starting Over after TWRP and Rooting

I installed TWRP, then rooted 10.4.2.18.
I need to start over as well, between the random app loading, gestures and stop, I think from scratch would be nice.
Can I do a factory data reset?
I have a backup from TWRP but I didn't label it very clearly and I'm not sure what it is.
It's unlocked and rooted - by doing the reset I'm assuming I'll loose it the root - am I correct?.
OK, so I asked what:
1. the wrong forum?
2. The wrong site?
3. Worded it wrong?
4. Too noob?
I could go on. Over a 100 people looked and NO-one can even point me to the right place if it's been answered before, or have an answer!?
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OK, so I asked what:
1. the wrong forum?
2. The wrong site?
3. Worded it wrong?
4. Too noob?
I could go on. Over a 100 people looked and NO-one can even point me to the right place if it's been answered before, or have an answer!?
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You can try factory data reset from settings app if you like. It is a variable on what you will loose and gain. It is a good place to start. Don't do wipe from the bootloader menu or wipes formats from twrp.
Note: Some wipes and formats can be used in twrp in the case where you will flash a rom after, when flashing stock it seldom helps.
Note: Twrp allows you to choose the name for your backup
You can also flash any of the asus stock firmware but you will have stock recovery (instead of twrp), probably loose root, and all of your apps and data.
My choice for best asus stock firmware is 10.4.2.18. It is not best for everyone but I like it.
Good Luck!
Sorry I didn't notice your post. For everyone else I'm sure they didn't wish to deliver such iffy information.
For future reference, a factory reset will take your ROM back to the point of a fresh install. You will lose all data that has been added since first flashing your ROM. If you were running a custom rooted ROM then you will not lose root. If you go back and flash a non-rooted ROM then you WILL lose root.
If you have data that you need to keep, I recommend using an app like Titanium Backup. Go in and choose to do a batch backup up all your apps. Once you have done a factory reset, you can sign back into Google Play and download Titanium. You can then go in and restore the apps you want. I don't recommend installing all of those apps with their data. Titanium gives you multiple options on how and what you want to restore. Only install the individual app data that you must to have. Usually, I'll restore all of my apps with no data at all. I will then go back in and individually restore the app data that I need.
If changing a ROM, restoring app data for all of your apps can have adverse side effects. That is why I say to only install what you need. Hope this helps. :good:
the best way to start from scratch is do a factory reset then use fastboot to upgrade you're firmware
tobdaryl said:
You can try factory data reset from settings app if you like. It is a variable on what you will loose and gain. It is a good place to start.
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That's what I wanted to know - and do - but I wasn't sure what was replaced when I loaded twrp.
tobdaryl said:
Don't do wipe from the bootloader menu or wipes formats from twrp.
Note: Some wipes and formats can be used in twrp in the case where you will flash a rom after, when flashing stock it seldom helps.
Note: Twrp allows you to choose the name for your backup
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I did label them, I backed it up - I think - right after I installed twrp and rooted it, ( I usually do ) but I'm not 100% sure so I didn't want to try and screw it up.
tobdaryl said:
You can also flash any of the asus stock firmware but you will have stock recovery (instead of twrp), probably loose root, and all of your apps and data.
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I'm generally not too concerned about loosing stuff, as long as I know WHAT I lost, so I can replace.
tobdaryl said:
My choice for best asus stock firmware is 10.4.2.18. It is not best for everyone but I like it.
Good Luck!
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Checked and that's what I'm on and so far happy with it.
I un-installed a ton of apps, while I was waiting for an answer, and the thing doesn't seem possessed any more, so I'm adding them back in one at a time giving each 2-3 days.
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Sorry I didn't notice your post. For everyone else I'm sure they didn't wish to deliver such iffy information.
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ABSOLUTELY no reason for an appology. I'd done a search and not come up with anything I could use, and couldn't believe no-one had done this before.
Everything sounds good.
I need to give you one piece of info.
The only thing flashing twrp replaces is stock recovery. Everything else remains the same.
Good Luck!
tobdaryl said:
Everything sounds good.
I need to give you one piece of info.
The only thing flashing twrp replaces is stock recovery. Everything else remains the same.
Good Luck!
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BUT when you do a data backup and reset, doesn't the system draw FROM the "stock" recovery?
RBraverman said:
BUT when you do a data backup and reset, doesn't the system draw FROM the "stock" recovery?
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If you are talking about backup with twrp, by default system, emmc, and data are backed up.
Reset erases user apps and data; all basic data would need to be entered as if you had just purchased the unit.
tobdaryl said:
If you are talking about backup with twrp, by default system, emmc, and data are backed up.
Reset erases user apps and data; all basic data would need to be entered as if you had just purchased the unit.
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OH! I was under the impression that it read an image from to the boot parition/recovery partition and wrote that. NOW I get it.
THANK you.
Last question - If I do this (installed es file manager last night and the bloody thing wild), is root.signed.zip still good for rooting this? It's unlocked and 10.4.2.18.
RBraverman said:
OH! I was under the impression that it read an image from to the boot parition/recovery partition and wrote that. NOW I get it.
THANK you.
Last question - If I do this (installed es file manager last night and the bloody thing wild), is root.signed.zip still good for rooting this? It's unlocked and 10.4.2.18.
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I use es file manager for working with both sdcards. I have used it since I received this tablet and find it very useful. Maybe uninstall and reinstall. For a root browser I use rom toolbox pro.
I have not used root.signed.zip but downloading and looking at the installation I don't find a problem. I'd say try it.
wetbiker7 said:
For future reference, a factory reset will take your ROM back to the point of a fresh install. You will lose all data that has been added since first flashing your ROM. If you were running a custom rooted ROM then you will not lose root. If you go back and flash a non-rooted ROM then you WILL lose root.
If you have data that you need to keep, I recommend using an app like Titanium Backup. Go in and choose to do a batch backup up all your apps. Once you have done a factory reset, you can sign back into Google Play and download Titanium. You can then go in and restore the apps you want. I don't recommend installing all of those apps with their data. Titanium gives you multiple options on how and what you want to restore. Only install the individual app data that you must to have. Usually, I'll restore all of my apps with no data at all. I will then go back in and individually restore the app data that I need.
If changing a ROM, restoring app data for all of your apps can have adverse side effects. That is why I say to only install what you need. Hope this helps. :good:
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Just saw your post - don't know where I went ...
I do not have a custom ROM, so what you are saying is no matter how I start over, I'm going to have to re-install TWRP, re-root it and ad apps - correct? It seems to me that settings|backup and reset, I'll leave TWRP intact just reset.
OK, I'm somewhat screwed I think - if anyone's out there (sorry pretty frustrated), I cleaned the D-Cache and the cahe, better but not good. Then a settings|reset and the from within the OS and the same problem does what it wants when it wants, opens programs (usually google voice), pops up the window to set wallpaper, freezes etc. Then I restored a backup from early January from WITHIN TWRP, and cleaned the caches - same. Restored another and cleaned same. I have cleaned the system, as I cannot see/figure out which clean rom custom I can use on this, as I think that might be my only hope. Other than tossing in the junk pile as it's unusable like this.
Whatever is going on is IN the system, which leads me to a custom rom as my only possible salvation - (think I just said that, hum).
Any ideas?

[Q] JB update via Kies - Any precautions?

Hello,
I have an ATT Skyrocket on ICS (I727 UCLIC3). It's all stock and not rooted.
When I connected to Kies, I get a notification stating Android 4.1.2 I727 UCMC1 is available
1. I wanted to check if this update any known issues? and if i should take any precautions?
2. If I don't like this JB, is there an option to revert back to stock ICS? or is it point of no return?
If yes to question #2, How do I do a full back up before update? Should install CWM or TWRP for that?
And then I have to factory reset before JB update so the custom recovery won't interfere with JB upgrade?
Thx
Best advice is for you to read all of the stickies in the Skyrocket sub forums. Also, read the threads that have already been started about the update. The answers to all of the questions you asked and much more are there. It will also help you to learn ways to prevent hard or soft bricks, and what to do if you encounter issues. Good luck.
If you install CWM, you need to be rooted. If your rooted, you can't update to JB. Also, there is a thread with issues of JB. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230909
I am pretty sure there is a way to do a backup on stock. Forgot though. Search though. The answer could be there.
Thx.
One more question: Should I reset factory reset my skyrocket? (before I let Kies update it to JB)?
I may have uninstalled or disabled some at&t bloatware... hence wondering it's better to factory reset before JB update...
gcretro said:
Thx.
One more question: Should I reset factory reset my skyrocket? (before I let Kies update it to JB)?
I may have uninstalled or disabled some at&t bloatware... hence wondering it's better to factory reset before JB update...
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Not necessary to revert to factory settings before you update using kies, sure all the settings of your currant rom will be lost once you're on JB, but data on your internal sdcard should be left intact like pictures and music..Better to back it up some where before you proceed..
I didn't do anything at all before updating (I use the standard AT&T firmware) and all I really lost was my home screen layouts; all my apps were still there, settings intact, still logged on as applicable. I did have a moment of panic when the phone first started up when it brought up the AT&T app that sets up a new phone from scratch. I thought that meant that it had done a full factory reset, but after getting out of that everything was there except for the re-initialized home screens.
I did the JB update via kies. So far all good. yes, I had to resetup my app shortcuts.
I read that this update should provide skyrocket users with the "Smart Stay" feature... but i don't see it anywhere under settings.
Btw, should i factory reset my phone now AFTER JB update? in case something is still not activated or something
gcretro said:
I did the JB update via kies. So far all good. yes, I had to resetup my app shortcuts.
I read that this update should provide skyrocket users with the "Smart Stay" feature... but i don't see it anywhere under settings.
Btw, should i factory reset my phone now AFTER JB update? in case something is still not activated or something
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If everything seems to be working, don't factory reset. With factory reset you will lose your apps and settings.
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