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[Q] Differences between hboots 1.06, 1.09, 1.13, and 1.14?

So I successfully downgraded from hboot 1.14 to 1.06, and used the TMOUS 1.53 RUU to restore it, but now I am curious as to what the major differences and incompatibilities each hboot has. Since I was on 1.14 I understand that that one had more restrictions and broke wi-fi on some roms. Which hboot would be "best" for 3rd arty roms and overall usage? I'm asking this partly because even with hboot 1.06 wi-fi was still too buggy for use on CM10.

byliu88 said:
So I successfully downgraded from hboot 1.14 to 1.06, and used the TMOUS 1.53 RUU to restore it, but now I am curious as to what the major differences and incompatibilities each hboot has. Since I was on 1.14 I understand that that one had more restrictions and broke wi-fi on some roms. Which hboot would be "best" for 3rd arty roms and overall usage? I'm asking this partly because even with hboot 1.06 wi-fi was still too buggy for use on CM10.
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1.06, flash the new radio seperately once your on 1.06.

usaff22 said:
1.06, flash the new radio seperately once your on 1.06.
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Thanks for the info, which radio is that though?

<here you go mate, http://d-h.st/XBu it was posted on this forum by torx, i think , it's a flashebel zip. with aroma installer so just folow the instructions

alexskin said:
<here you go mate, http://d-h.st/XBu it was posted on this forum by torx, i think , it's a flashebel zip. with aroma installer so just folow the instructions
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Alright I'll try it out. thanks!

byliu88 said:
So I successfully downgraded from hboot 1.14 to 1.06, and used the TMOUS 1.53 RUU to restore it, but now I am curious as to what the major differences and incompatibilities each hboot has. Since I was on 1.14 I understand that that one had more restrictions and broke wi-fi on some roms. Which hboot would be "best" for 3rd arty roms and overall usage? I'm asking this partly because even with hboot 1.06 wi-fi was still too buggy for use on CM10.
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I wonder if you could please explain how you were able to downgrade. I heat tons of conflicting info on this.
Thanks in advance.

HD Case said:
I wonder if you could please explain how you were able to downgrade. I heat tons of conflicting info on this.
Thanks in advance.
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He probably used the instructions in the development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990043

Kamilr97 said:
He probably used the instructions in the development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990043
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Thanks,
Yikes! Now I see why a lot of people don't even attempt this

I have also downgrade my hboot back to 1.06 and my wifi is also buggy i hope there is a solution for
Maybe i must go back to stock but i dont know if my wifi then is fix

fjjfrank said:
I have also downgrade my hboot back to 1.06 and my wifi is also buggy i hope there is a solution for
Maybe i must go back to stock but i dont know if my wifi then is fix
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I downgraded from 1.14 to 1.06 too, installed 1.53 RUU and then experienced wifi issues on Trickdroid 8.
I had to flash "extra partitions" to make it work. Seems to be some partitions required for wifi to work on versions based on latest sense kernels.
I flashed extra partitions 2.35 and wifi did not work. Then I flashed 1.84 and wifi on Trickdroid 8 would connect, but from time to time (very frequently every 15 seconds on average) disconnect and reconnect, randomly (was annoying and killing my battery). I moved to trickdroid 7 TMOUS version and wifi works perfectly, never disconnects.
(My phone was from T-Mobile)
Here are the links, taken from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657831&page=271
2.35 Extra Partitions
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7gtuvbynr3...rtitions.zip?m
1.84 Extra Partitions
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mmjcqisgoo...rtitions.zip?m
NOTE: On CM rom I never had issues even without flashing extra partitions, and even when I was on hboot 1.14.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Diego
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And regarding the topic from this post, hboot is like the BIOS of the phone. You gain nothing from upgrading it, only gain restrictions from 1.13 and above. So as far as I read it is better to stick to 1.06
Regarding the procedure to downgrade, for the one that asked, it can make you panic on the step when you upload hboot 1.06. For me, it failed 3 times, and I had to go to work after third time with a "bricked" phone -.-
But I came back, tried from my laptop instead of my PC, and worked on the first attemp!. Seemed to be my PC USB not working properly or not being fast enough/not having enough power, who knows.
It seems scary but is fairly straight through, the procedure is perfectly detailed. Did it from an Ubuntu 12.04 live image.
Regards,
Diego

HD Case said:
I wonder if you could please explain how you were able to downgrade. I heat tons of conflicting info on this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, I used the guide Kamilr mentioned. It was fairly nerve wracking but if you carefully read all of the instructions and get an idea of what your doing it goes pretty smoothly. Same with sperad, flashing the hboot itself failed for me 3 times, but all you had to do was reboot and retry. But anyways regarding the wifi issue. flashing the new radio did not seem to alleviate anything, but I flashed viperOneS and wifi now works fine, so I plan to stay with it.
@fjjfrank Try relocking your bootloader, then running your RUU http://d-h.st/users/agentc13/?fld_id=2293#files (if you're on tmobile its 1.53, im not sure about the other networks), which'll bring you back to stock. Wi-Fi worked perfectly on stock when I tried that after downgrading to 1.06. If its good from there you can try what i did and unlock your bootloader again and flash viperOneS which worked for me.

byliu88 said:
Yes, I used the guide Kamilr mentioned. It was fairly nerve wracking but if you carefully read all of the instructions and get an idea of what your doing it goes pretty smoothly. Same with sperad, flashing the hboot itself failed for me 3 times, but all you had to do was reboot and retry. But anyways regarding the wifi issue. flashing the new radio did not seem to alleviate anything, but I flashed viperOneS and wifi now works fine, so I plan to stay with it.
@fjjfrank Try relocking your bootloader, then running your RUU http://d-h.st/users/agentc13/?fld_id=2293#files (if you're on tmobile its 1.53, im not sure about the other networks), which'll bring you back to stock. Wi-Fi worked perfectly on stock when I tried that after downgrading to 1.06. If its good from there you can try what i did and unlock your bootloader again and flash viperOneS which worked for me.
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oke thanks
i am from the netherlands and i have got a unbranded one s
witch hboot can i install without updating my bootloader

[Q] Updated to Jellybean -> Flashed custom ROM -> Have issues

So after having Jellybean updated on my Telstra One XL I decided to much around with recoveries and custom ROMs to see if I could get them running. I realised that this was going to cause issues, but I was fine with mucking around with it.
I unlocked the phone and got a recovery installed and of course the touchscreen didn't work in recovery. So I mucked around with it and managed to get ROMs installed via manual boot.img flashing and manual ROM flashing via:
Code:
adb shell recovery --update_package=/sdcard/rom.zip
My test was with CM10 and it got up and running. The only issue is that touchscreen doesn't work. Which made any progression through the setup phase impossible
If anyone has any clues as to how to get this up and going again I'm all ears.
I tried to use JET to roll back the HBOOT and try to roll back the firmware, but the RUUs wanted none of it.
Thanks in advance,
Anthony

Did you also fix the version number on mmcblk0p23 before attempting an older RUU?
eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671135

twistedddx said:
Did you also fix the version number on mmcblk0p23 before attempting an older RUU?
eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671135
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No I didn't, must've missed that. Thanks, I will try that.

Didn't work with any RUU either.
EDIT: Got the RUU installed, thank you very much. I was an idiot and forgot to relock my bootloader again

I would use twrp on the hoxl for recovery. Its not failed me yet
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Hooray first success story of a downgrade.
Was this 3.17 and down to what ruu?

DESERT.TECH said:
I would use twrp on the hoxl for recovery. Its not failed me yet
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Not really relevant.
twistedddx said:
Hooray first success story of a downgrade.
Was this 3.17 and down to what ruu?
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RUU_Evita_UL_Telstra_WWE_1.81.841.1_R_Radio_0.17a.32.09.03_2_10.85.32.16L_release_259804_signed.exe
Not really a success though. Once it pushed through the RUU, it bricked the phone. No power LED, won't start etc.
Tried the unbricking process, but it won't work. Going to get it replaced now.

Antonioffaxii said:
Not really a success though. Once it pushed through the RUU, it bricked the phone. No power LED, won't start etc.
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Dam!
Did you try Jet again to get back to hboot 1.09 a second time?
Does it allow you to RUU again or just nothing?
I would have tried a newer RUU also, like 2.42.

twistedddx said:
Dam!
Did you try Jet again to get back to hboot 1.09 a second time?
Does it allow you to RUU again or just nothing?
I would have tried a newer RUU also, like 2.42.
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I couldn't restore it in anyway, I had work so I took it with me and had it replaced.
Now I have one that works again!

[Q] Question about 3.4 kernel

Okay so obviously to use any of the AOSP Roms with the 3.4 kernel, you have to s-off then RUU, ect.. ect...ect...
I'm on vanilla root-box 6/11 right now and it just refuses to keep apps in memory. I don't have time to really try a new ROM or learn how to s-off and stuff ATM. I plan to sometime next week., but in the mean time, I was wondering if I flash a ROM that uses the 3.4 kernel and then immediately flash a different kernel before even booting. Would that get me past the previous requirements?

kyleallen5000 said:
Okay so obviously to use any of the AOSP Roms with the 3.4 kernel, you have to s-off then RUU, ect.. ect...ect...
I'm on vanilla root-box 6/11 right now and it just refuses to keep apps in memory. I don't have time to really try a new ROM or learn how to s-off and stuff ATM. I plan to sometime next week., but in the mean time, I was wondering if I flash a ROM that uses the 3.4 kernel and then immediately flash a different kernel before even booting. Would that get me past the previous requirements?
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Nope, you'll probably brick doing that.

kyleallen5000 said:
Okay so obviously to use any of the AOSP Roms with the 3.4 kernel, you have to s-off then RUU, ect.. ect...ect...
I'm on vanilla root-box 6/11 right now and it just refuses to keep apps in memory. I don't have time to really try a new ROM or learn how to s-off and stuff ATM. I plan to sometime next week., but in the mean time, I was wondering if I flash a ROM that uses the 3.4 kernel and then immediately flash a different kernel before even booting. Would that get me past the previous requirements?
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You can't flash a different kernel because those ROMs require the 3.4 kernel. There are a few lucky individuals that have been able to flash the newer 3.4 ROMs without going through the s-off & RUU process but that is definitely not the norm. You could try it but you will probably end up in a boot loop just like I did. I was already s-off so I just had to run the RUU. But even doing the whole process isn't a very time consuming ordeal. I did the whole process on a friend's phone yesterday and it took around 30 minutes and was very easy.

RollTribe said:
Nope, you'll probably brick doing that.
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Yeah i figured it was a long shot, glad i asked first lol. Thanks dude!

pside15 said:
You can't flash a different kernel because those ROMs require the 3.4 kernel. There are a few lucky individuals that have been able to flash the newer 3.4 ROMs without going through the s-off & RUU process but that is definitely not the norm. You could try it but you will probably end up in a boot loop just like I did. I was already s-off so I just had to run the RUU. But even doing the whole process isn't a very time consuming ordeal. I did the whole process on a friend's phone yesterday and it took around 30 minutes and was very easy.
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Oh I'm sure it's not to bad, but I have no idea how to use fastboot or adb (I've lucked by without having to use either, at least to my knowledge). Plus I don't readily have a windows PC, I just want make sure I know what I'm doing before I even attempt it. I've been looking over gunnyman's adb for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754018), I'll give it a shot sometime next week when I've worked up the courage. Thanks for the advice!

pside15 said:
There are a few lucky individuals that have been able to flash the newer 3.4 ROMs without going through the s-off & RUU process but that is definitely not the norm.
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3.4 kernel requires only 3.18/2.14 hboot.
If you already meet those requirements there is no need to RUU to 3.18
If you don't need to RUU to 3.18, you don't need to S-OFF.
It's really just that simple.

exad said:
3.4 kernel requires only 3.18/2.14 hboot.
If you already meet those requirements there is no need to RUU to 3.18
If you don't need to RUU to 3.18, you don't need to S-OFF.
It's really just that simple.
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I meant there are people who have gotten it to work on an older hboot. Also, you can't just update your hboot without doing the ruu. There's something else in the update that it requires. So if you were s-off and just updated your hboot to 2.14 like I tried, the 3.4 kernel ROMs still won't flash correctly. I had an 2.14 hboot and still had to run the ruu.
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pside15 said:
I meant there are people who have gotten it to work on an older hboot. Also, you can't just update your hboot without doing the ruu. There's something else in the update that it requires. So if you were s-off and just updated your hboot to 2.14 like I tried, the 3.4 kernel ROMs still won't flash correctly. I had an 2.14 hboot and still had to run the ruu.
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Yes, you require all the files in the firmware zip. It's not so much the hboot that matters hence why I put 3.18 software/2.14 hboot.
The people who managed to do it with lower hboot did the 3.18 update at some point and then downgraded just the hboot using the modded hboot file.

exad said:
Yes, you require all the files in the firmware zip. It's not so much the hboot that matters hence why I put 3.18 software/2.14 hboot.
The people who managed to do it with lower hboot did the 3.18 update at some point and then downgraded just the hboot using the modded hboot file.
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Not trying to start an argument or anything but, I have seen and responded to users that have gotten a 3.4 kernel ROM to boot on an older hboot without ever having done the 3.18 update. It's definitely not the norm and I wouldn't even recommend trying it but there are a few people that have done it successfully.

pside15 said:
Not trying to start an argument or anything but, I have seen and responded to users that have gotten a 3.4 kernel ROM to boot on an older hboot without ever having done the 3.18 update. It's definitely not the norm and I wouldn't even recommend trying it but there are a few people that have done it successfully.
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The ones I've seen pull that off had run the 3.18 ruu then downgraded the hboot. If it was that simple I doubt the the Rom would say it was required. And even if it was pulled of it was done by not following directions. Noobs with this phone that don't know how quirky it is can brick it. So I recommend following the steps the Rom calls for. There are more bricks from people skipping steps or not following directions
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31ken31 said:
The ones I've seen pull that off had run the 3.18 ruu then downgraded the hboot. If it was that simple I doubt the the Rom would say it was required. And even if it was pulled of it was done by not following directions. Noobs with this phone that don't know how quirky it is can brick it. So I recommend following the steps the Rom calls for. There are more bricks from people skipping steps or not following directions
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I'm not saying it's that simple and yes, I agree about following the steps. That's why I said I wouldn't even recommend trying the newer ROMs without updating first. I have seen it work though. That's all I'm saying. Maybe those users were ignorant on exactly what they did but I'm just going on what I've read and responded to.

Same ken. I have not seen anyone manage without having 3.18 at some point and I chill on here and in facepalm quite often. In fact, I don't even have a physical body. I am just a conciousness who lives within a hoxl. j/k
Pside if you say you've seen it, that's cool. But it is true that I live on these forums and find it odd that I have not encountered that situation yet.
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exad said:
Same ken. I have not seen anyone manage without having 3.18 at some point and I chill on here and in facepalm quite often. In fact, I don't even have a physical body. I am just a conciousness who lives within a hoxl. j/k
Pside if you say you've seen it, that's cool. But it is true that I live on these forums and find it odd that I have not encountered that situation yet.
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Go to my profile and look at my quoted posts or just go back a bit in the Carbon thread. You will see where I quoted someone who was s-on and on the 1.14 hboot that flashed one of the 3.4 nightlies successfully. He was wondering if his phone was going to mess up now. That's the only specific one I remember off the top of my head but I know I've seen others as well. Like I said I'm just going by what I read. They could be completely wrong, lying, or just ignorant noobs. I live on these forums as well and have absolutely no reason to make something like this up.
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CleanROM 7 stuck at splash screen

Stuck...just displays the HTC logo on white screen.
I had cleanrom 5.0 final. TWRP, super SU, rooted, unlocked. Firmware 2.20.
I dropped in the new ROM, did a factory reset in TWRP, and installed new rom. I read that that would work with my current setup, but apparently not. I am unclear on the part where it says "Highly recommend latest Jellybean firmware and S-Off!" Not sure how to determine this or proceed. Things here seem to be getting increasingly more jargoned rather than step by step for those of us that do this once a year or so :/
I flashed back to 5.0 with no issues, but I would really like to try to get the cleanrom 7 working if possible. Any ideas?

It sounds like you're s-on, if so you'd need to flash the boot.img via fastboot. Is this the first ROM you've flashed? Please post your bootloader details.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
It sounds like you're s-on, if so you'd need to flash the boot.img via fastboot. Is this the first ROM you've flashed? Please post your bootloader details.
Sent from my Evita
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Thanks for your reply. You are correct, I am s-on. But I was able to re-load CleanROM 5. This is my second custom rom on this phone (the first being CleanROM 5). But this is only my third custom rom ever, so I am pretty much of a noober. :cyclops:

klaypigeon said:
I am unclear on the part where it says "Highly recommend latest Jellybean firmware and S-Off!" Not sure how to determine this or proceed. Things here seem to be getting increasingly more jargoned rather than step by step for those of us that do this once a year or so :/
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The ROM threads are to inform you of the features and requirements of the ROM, not to be a step-by-step guide. There are plenty of step-by-step guides in various places, for those that care to read and look.
If you don't flash often, a good resource is my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
My Index will at least point you to the s-off process. I intend to add some info about the 2.15 firmware (as people keep constantly asking about it), but work has been chaotic, to say the least.
Another good thing to do, is read through the more recent pages of the ROM thread, or do a search on the thread.

Thanks, I am subscribed to your index, that's where I found the ROM and what I used during my first flash.
I did the process for unlocking the 2.20 firmware about a year ago as that is what my phone came with. I assume that would have given me superCID and s-off in order to install my old ROM (CleanROM 5).
'CID Getter' says I have no CID, which I read means I have superCID.
Firmware : 2.20
SuperSU installed and functioning (I have root)
Current ROM: CleanROM 5 Final
S-ON
TWRP 2.3.1.0
So you think I need to do s-off as described here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
If I brick this phone I am using a clam-shell for a year until contract renewal :/

klaypigeon said:
I assume that would have given me superCID and s-off in order to install my old ROM (CleanROM 5).
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You shouldn't be assuming anything. You just said the CID Getter says S-on. You can also confirm s-on or s-off by going into bootloader.
The main reason CleanROM7 will not boot, is that you forgot to extract boot.img from the ROM file, and flash it separately using fastboot. Some older versions of CleanROM didn't require this (boot.img was flashed in the AROMA installer), so that may be why you don't remember doing this.
S-off removed the requirement to flash boot.img separately (will flash in recovery automatically when you flash the ROM). It will also allow you to install hboot 2.15 and associated firmware, if you happen to suffer from signal drops or random reboots while on Sense 5 ROMs.

Further to that, CID Getter doesn't show your actual CID. The proper way to display your CID is by using the fastboot command "fastboot oem readcid". Like Redpoint said, you shouldn't be assuming anything.
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Well...its pretty much dead. I verified supercid and then I flashed the bootloader and now it is just in a slow bootloop. It shows the HTC developer splash screen and then shuts down then a few minutes later does it again and so on. Looks like I am clamshell bound.

What did you flash?
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Muahahaaha, WORKING! Had to hold down volume through 5 reboot cycles and it finally picked up bootloader. set S-OFF. Tried CleanROM every which way and flashed boo.img as well, never could get it to make it past google boot animation. Installed ViperXL and boot.img without issue. Jelly Bean 4.2.2 sweetness! I lost hope there for about an hour, glad I didn't launch phone into the woods.

timmaaa said:
Further to that, CID Getter doesn't show your actual CID.
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Ha, that's not a very useful app, then. What is it actually reading?
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klaypigeon said:
Well...its pretty much dead. I verified supercid and then I flashed the bootloader and now it is just in a slow bootloop. It shows the HTC developer splash screen and then shuts down then a few minutes later does it again and so on. Looks like I am clamshell bound.
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Do you mean "locked the bootloader" instead of "flashed"?
If you locked the bootloader, this is what is supposed to happen. Locking the bootloader assumes you will be running RUU, and renders the phone unable to boot normally.
I know you got it back up and running. But for future reference, this phone is almost never bricked, as long as the screen comes on.
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klaypigeon said:
Muahahaaha, WORKING! Had to hold down volume through 5 reboot cycles and it finally picked up bootloader. set S-OFF. Tried CleanROM every which way and flashed boo.img as well, never could get it to make it past google boot animation. Installed ViperXL and boot.img without issue. Jelly Bean 4.2.2 sweetness! I lost hope there for about an hour, glad I didn't launch phone into the woods.
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Flashing boot.img manually is not necessary with s-off, it should happan automatically when you flash a ROM. I suspect you may be having trouble with CleanROM due to a buggy or outdated TWRP version. What version of TWRP are you using?
It also seems that you are pretty unclear about some of the basic concepts around flashing ROMs on this phone. It would probably benefit you to read and learn a bit more before something bad actually happens due to negligence.

I'm not sure what CID Getter is actually reading, but when I used it it came up with the incorrect CID, can't remember exactly what it was now but it was definitely incorrect because I already had SuperCID.
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Flashing boot.img manually is not necessary with s-off, it should happan automatically when you flash a ROM. I suspect you may be having trouble with CleanROM due to a buggy or outdated TWRP version. What version of TWRP are you using?
It also seems that you are pretty unclear about some of the basic concepts around flashing ROMs on this phone. It would probably benefit you to read and learn a bit more before something bad actually happens due to negligence.
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I am using 2.3.1 TWRP. In the viperXL thread they said I may have to flash the boot.img if I had hboot 1.14 which I do. As far as read and learning, I do this once a year I am not a ROM junkie. Every time I do it I have to re-learn. I work in IT so it is a use it or lose it world in my brain - volumes of info in > volumes out

klaypigeon said:
I am using 2.3.1 TWRP. In the viperXL thread they said I may have to flash the boot.img if I had hboot 1.14 which I do. As far as read and learning, I do this once a year I am not a ROM junkie. Every time I do it I have to re-learn. I work in IT so it is a use it or lose it world in my brain - volumes of info in > volumes out
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If you have s-off you don't need to flash the boot.img via fastboot, that's only required if you're s-on. It might be worthwhile updating your TWRP to the 2.6 version though.
What Redpoint was saying is that you need to have a firm understanding of what you're doing when it comes to modifying your phone. If you only do it once a year that's cool, but that probably means that once a year you need to brush up before making any changes to your device. Rushing in without the required knowledge is how bricks occur. This is only being suggested to help you, for your own good.
Sent from my Evita

klaypigeon said:
I am using 2.3.1 TWRP. In the viperXL thread they said I may have to flash the boot.img if I had hboot 1.14 which I do.
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Only with hboot 1.14 or later and s-on. If s-off the protection which prevents boot.img from being written in recovery is bypassed.
I believe TWRP 2.3.1 was a pretty trustworthy version (although older). So not sure why CleanROM didn't flash. Might not be a bad idea to update to 2.6.0 (although the latest 2.6.4 seems to have some bugs).
klaypigeon said:
I do this once a year I am not a ROM junkie. Every time I do it I have to re-learn. I work in IT so it is a use it or lose it world in my brain - volumes of info in > volumes out
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Yeah, I understand that you only do this on a seldom basis. And its a lot of esoteric knowledge to have to relearn (or take in, since things have likely changed since lasts time). However, that doesn't change the fact that not fully understanding all the concepts and steps can have dire consequences for your phone.

[Q] Haven't touched it in a year- now what?

My wife's phone, it's currently running CleanROM JL beta 1, android 4.1. it's been running this for over a year. time to upgrade it. i haven't kept up with development on this phone and now i'm totally lost.
bootloader says:
tampered
unlocked
Evita PVT SHIP S_ON RL
hboot 1.14.0002
radio: 0. 19as. 32.09. 11_2
eMMC-boot
...etc.
recovery is TWRP v2.4.1.0
i have no idea where to go from here. can i just drop a new rom on the sd card and flash it from recovery? don't have any software, adb etc and my only computers are macs. would love some advice or at least get pointed in the right direction. tried searching, but i'm just overwhelmed.
i would love to get as close to vanilla android as possible. thanks in advance for the help!

You can't do anything without first updating your firmware. For that you're gonna need access to a PC with an adb/fastboot environment on it. You need to get s-off, then update your firmware, then flash the latest TWRP recovery, then you will be able to update the ROM.
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timmaaa said:
You can't do anything without first updating your firmware. For that you're gonna need access to a PC with an adb/fastboot environment on it. You need to get s-off, then update your firmware, then flash the latest TWRP recovery, then you will be able to update the ROM.
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crap. ok, thanks for the rundown. now that i know the steps necessary, i'm sure i can work my way through it. i'll get working on this.

cwininger said:
crap. ok, thanks for the rundown. now that i know the steps necessary, i'm sure i can work my way through it. i'll get working on this.
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were you successful? let us know. [emoji62]
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marknoll said:
were you successful? let us know. [emoji62]
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well, i appear to be stuck. i'm trying to get s-off with firewater. i've got adb running nicely on my macbook,terminal/shell works etc. but firewater fails every time. i get this message:
The first bottle is open
chugging..........
nasty, need a chaser
nasty, need a chaser
this skunk has some real funk, force (FORCE!!!!) reboot your device and try again!
tried 4 times and got the same result. any ideas? am i missing something?

Forget Firewater, try Rumrunner instead:
Rumrunner S-off
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timmaaa said:
Forget Firewater, try Rumrunner instead:
Rumrunner S-off
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no worky on macbook

Can't you get access to a Windows PC? Pretty much everything you need to do with Android is Windows.
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timmaaa said:
Can't you get access to a Windows PC? Pretty much everything you need to do with Android is Windows.
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yeah i guess. pita though. not sure it's worth it for this aging device. i was hoping to get vanilla 4.4 on it and give it to my father in law, but i don't know how much more i want to jerk with it...
thanks very much for the help, though.

It's not hard do. Tim can help. Just LISTEN to him. He knows his stuff.. This device is his specialty
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cwininger said:
yeah i guess. pita though. not sure it's worth it for this aging device. i was hoping to get vanilla 4.4 on it and give it to my father in law, but i don't know how much more i want to jerk with it...
thanks very much for the help, though.
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It's pretty straight forward, just sort out drivers, get s-off, flash firmware, and you're golden.
marknoll said:
It's not hard do. Tim can help. Just LISTEN to him. He knows his stuff.. This device is his specialty
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Not for long. Looks like my emmc is starting to fail in my Evita, luckily I've just bought a OnePlus One, it's gonna take a couple of weeks to arrive though. I'll still support this device though probably.
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when you say "flash firmware" is that an ruu? it's been awhile and i'm not sure on the terminology anymore. i've flashed samsungs, htc's motorolas and nexus devices and they all have different approaches. i can't keep them straight

cwininger said:
when you say "flash firmware" is that an ruu? it's been awhile and i'm not sure on the terminology anymore. i've flashed samsungs, htc's motorolas and nexus devices and they all have different approaches. i can't keep them straight
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No, not an RUU, go to my How-To guide in my signature for details.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died

I'll quickly explain the flashing firmware. Firmware is basically the stuff like boot loader and radio. You need the entire firmware package updated.
So to do that, we have to get your phone into that mode that's like when you're taking a RUU. It's the black screen with a green progress bar. From there, we use an unusual command to install the firmware.
Just read the "How to Update Firmware" in my Sig and apply that method to any firmware package, as long as you're s-off and supercid

pandasa123 said:
I'll quickly explain the flashing firmware. Firmware is basically the stuff like boot loader and radio. You need the entire firmware package updated.
So to do that, we have to get your phone into that mode that's like when you're taking a RUU. It's the black screen with a green progress bar. From there, we use an unusual command to install the firmware.
Just read the "How to Update Firmware" in my Sig and apply that method to any firmware package, as long as you're s-off and supercid
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timmaaa said:
No, not an RUU, go to my How-To guide in my signature for details.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
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beautiful. Thank you guys very much!