Database Info

CommMgrPro. Looking for GSM-GPS mappers

HI.
CommMgrPro is and one year old Hermes project. CommMgrPro is:
1) Automatic profile tool based on Location (GSM cell) and schedules.
2) Battery and Current draw monitory tool.
3) Communication manager.
4) -> It allow to upload cell changes to the server and if you have GPS It can take the coordenates so you can track your movements on the server using Google Maps. Apart of this we are creating automatically a big database matching CELL - OPERATOR - GPS coords.
So.....We are giving for free licenses to people interested on the project with PDA GPS enabled and interested on increasing the database. Simply install the program, use it to upload cells and if you ve uploaded cells you will get a free license. More info in www.commmgrpro.com
Thanks

which countries r of interest to you?
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Originally Posted by Jackster
Hi,
nice prog. interested in specific countries? or ok to use anywhere.
thx
danielherrero
Senior Member
Any country Jackster....

GNSS Internet Radio and Built in GPS

Hello,
I am new to the forum and also the owner of an HTC Fuze. I have been playing around recently with the GPS on the phone and got me thinking. I live in NY and we have a CORS network of gps base stations that are fed by the use of ntrip.
I was wondering if their was any way to use the gps signal on my phone and the connection to this CORS network to give me sub inch accuracy on my phone...then not sure what I would do with it then. But I do live on a farm and I would like to see some type of precision agricultural use.
I guess I need a way to have the GPS on the phone talk with the GNSS internet radio and then give me spot on guidance and such.
Please let me know your thoughts or if I need to explain better.
Thanks,
Clayton

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bump. Any ideas? Anyone

Great idea cwrisrey !
That will save the cost of a geodetic device, which is many times the cost of a Fuze. Further, it will lead the accuracy of the buildin GPS into millimum class.
Not dig into this further, would you go further to tell these:
Is that CORS data encrypted?
Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
Once again, great idea. Please do remember to update this thread once you got any progress. Thanks.

More info
Hello wg5566,
This site would probably answer alot of your questions clearer than I could:
http://www6.nysdot.gov/spiderweb/frmIndex.aspx
* Is that CORS data encrypted?
-I don't believe so, I think that it is just a form of compression, to distribute across the internet.
* Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Yes, the NYS CORS anyway. It accessible from the public internet (although they require you to register with them) But I believe there are other free streams. I also believe it was modeled after being able to be sent threw GPRS.
* Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
-I believe the ntrip is based on a GNU, I think the source code is available. http://igs.bkg.bund.de/index_ntrip_down.htm
Windows CE version:
http://www.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/crgb/gsr/downloads/installGNSS.CAB
Please, let me know your thoughts...
Thanks,
Clayton

My fast thoughts:
First make sure there is no satisfied freeware currently available for WM.
If so please ask a moderator to move this to the development & hackings section. And Add tyis sentence on the title: Call for developers for revolutionary GPS app!
I'm sure somebody here can develop this. You know the geodetic device was invented many years ago with very weak profiles comparing to current WM devices. The hardware on our phone should be capable to deal with these calculations, and the WM Pro platform should be capable to support such an app. Anyway it should not be a biggy for many masters here. But it is a biggy for gps users with high accuracy demand for any reason.
Edit: Did you try install that wince cab on your phone? I think some of WINCE apps can just run on WM. Please backup your data first.
Edit2: I tried to install it on my device, at first it did not show up in start menu, then I found the cab just put files and shortcut in the folder names in French. But there is no registry involved in the cab. Only three files. And then program UI itself is in English. Just run the executable from the folder will go right out of the box. So please try it. I did not try to connect & loggin yet, due to not registered account.
Edit3: Looks like the cab is only access the data from internet, convert the data format and export the data, but we still need a geodetic/gps software to process/use the data.
Disclaimer: I attatched these three files for the only purppose of exchanging software developement infomation. Anybody if download it please do not use it for any purppose other than this. Thanx.

Some thoughts on the subject
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any software capable of doing this. My idea is that it should be possible to accomplish this goal, using a combination of existing tools (which would be really cool!).
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: http://lefebure.com/software/).
More searching revealed a (dead?) project on codeplex: SharpGPS. It's an unfinished demo. It does however seem to be designed to do exactly what we're suggesting in this thread.
My idea: Completing the WM version of SharpGPS with parts of GNSS Internet radio / lefebure NTRIP client should result in a tool that's capable of upgrading a WM devices' gps signal to sub-meter accuracy through RTK/DGPS corrections over NTRIP.
Any ideas / suggestions about this?

It's already been done for the commercial market
Land surveyors, construction companies, and farmers use RTK GPS and RTK GNSS correction services on a regular basis. Some are free and some are paid subscription. They can be either NTRIP protocol with casters or individual TCP or UDP connections. Examples of software available are Carlson SurvCE and MicroSurvey. Read Carlson's support site for how they deal with the data flow using such networks on SurvCE (Windows Mobile and CE).
I have worked in land surveying using such equipment, and it generally requires dual frequency receivers, RTK corrections, and high quality antennas to achieve 1-2cm 95% CI horizontal precision. The current GPS chips in cell phones are only single frequency and so the best you could expect under ideal conditions is 2'-3' precision using some form of differential correction like WAAS or beacon or DGPS via NTRIP. Under average conditions, the precision will likely be in the 10-20' range. The dual frequency receivers take care of the large errors caused by radio waves traveling through the ionosphere.
Due to the limitations of batteries, antennas, and space for more chips in cellphones, the future of location accuracy will likely include some combination of GPS/GLONASS and cellular radio signal frequency timing calculations from cell towers. True Position, with its U-TDOA technology, is one example of measuring the time differences of cell phone radio waves using cell towers with known coordinates. Rumors (from surveying journals) have it that there are current patents in place that can allow for sub foot precision using such methods when sufficient cell towers are present for multilateration.

Has anyone found success on this topic? WM or Android...

Would be very interested, since there is a free NTRIP feed available in Switzerland... anyone?

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Been there still trying. Problem is no carrier phase off internal gps.

Grimli said:
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: /lefebure.com/software/).
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Lance lefebure is a really cool guy I'm sure he wouldn't have any problem building a wm version but it is going to takea lot more than that to get rtk to a cell phone.

Very good ,thanks.

Ed hardy bikini said:
Very good ,thanks.
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If you are confused just ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. I am in the ag industry and deal with RTK networks and different ways of connecting them and tons of different gps units on a daily basis.

Look at this:
http://stakemill.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/ashtech-mobile-mapper-100-supports-esri-arcpad-10-0/
and this:
http://www.ashtech.com/-2359.kjsp?RH=1272644205746&RF=1270806507068
Is that still a phone !?

wg5566 said:
Look at this:
Is that still a phone !?
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Nope PDA with support for external GPS with a builtin reciever that even sees glonass satellites (russian constelation). That was made specifically to do RTK mapping. It does have a GSM radio for data to connect to the cors.

Phone positioning using CORS
To perform a CORS (Network Reference correction we need a GGA stream from the GPS in your device. This allows us to remove the anomalies and provde the correction stream. As phones use a sirf II chip or similar they do not have input capability to output the NMEA stream to achieve this.

This one works great! it will connect to an Rtk receiver and get the nmea string from it or will use the internal GPS to be able to register on the CORS network. It will then stream the corrections over Bluetooth to a receiver or even a repeater radio. It won't however correct the internal GPS. http://antrip.dyndns.biz/Home/DownloadTrial

YA GPS, Yet Another GPS for HTC

YAGPS is an application for your Windows Mobile 6.x phone (tested with HTC HD2 Leo) that enables you to record GPS tracks and view live statistics – such as time, speed, distance, and elevation – while driving, biking, running or participating in other outdoor activities. Once recorded, you can share your KML Files, upload them to Google My Maps.
Features:
Gauge Speed Indicator
Sat. Number Indicator
Signal strength
Digital Speed Indicator
Trip Fuel Consumption
Trip Fuel Cost
Accuracy Indicator
KML for Google Map output file
Trip Color Coding
Speed Limit alert Indicator
Multi-Sound Language
Real-Time Monitoring, Time, Speed, Fuel, Avg. Speed, ...
For Download: http://yagps.codeplex.com/

Excellent, thank you very much.

Looks good.
One question, can it be changed to MPH, and Miles, etc etc ?
Thanks,
Ferret !

thank you guy

Does it make use of GPS or will it incur service provider's data charges GPRS?
Thanks

MPH and Miles
FerretAD said:
Looks good.
One question, can it be changed to MPH, and Miles, etc etc ?
Thanks,
Ferret !
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Yes, we are hard working to include the imperial system, as you can see in the setting page there is Metric and Imperial, but currently we support only metric, once released we will notify this post.

lwlee said:
Does it make use of GPS or will it incur service provider's data charges GPRS?
Thanks
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Thank you Lwlee,
No it does not use GPRS connection, the KML file will be saved locally but if you open the KML with your mobile, Gmap mobile will require GPRS connection, so you can open your KML on your local computer.
thanks

many thanks
Very good application & idea.
Good luck.
Stef2k4

Thank you
stef2k4 said:
Very good application & idea.
Good luck.
Stef2k4
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Many Thanks Stef,
We are hard working to deliver the new version with lots of new features and bug fix.
Keep in touch.
Sameh

fakoua said:
Thank you Lwlee,
No it does not use GPRS connection, the KML file will be saved locally but if you open the KML with your mobile, Gmap mobile will require GPRS connection, so you can open your KML on your local computer.
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Thank you for clarification. This is great since it does not require GPRS to track. This app may replace my dedicated GPS tracker.
Will install and try. When will be new and bug fix version coming?
Thank you for a job well done and a great app.

Looking for an Editor
Hi,
I'm looking for an editor, technical writer for my project YAGPS to build the documentation page on codeplex.
Requirements:
1- Volunteer!
2- English Skills
3- Photoshop skills or any other image editing app for screenshots
4- HTC HD2 Device to run the application and take screenshots
If you are interested please contact me via yagps.codeplex.com with your codeplex account
Many Thanks
Sameh

[INFO] "New User Guide Terms Android"

Hi! I saw that many (myself initially) fail to understand the discussions of various topics of modding on this and other forums because of certain terms that are now characteristic of speech in any argument.
-Android operating system for mobile devices based on Linux kernel. Android is an open source project developed by the Open Handset Alliance (OHA). Google was the first company to work on Android and HTC has designed and implemented the first Android phone.
-AOSP: The term stands for AOSP Android Open Source Project, which is an initiative created to guide the development of the Android mobile platform.
-ADB (Android Debugging Bridge): application via command line (command prompt, DOS), is used to flash rom, make changes to the system, backup, install applications (using the command: adb push nomeapp.apk / system / app /), copy files from your device to PC (via the command: adb pull / path / inside / of / Android / filename nome_file_destinazione) and more. ADB is a tool included in the SDK of Android that allows you to manage your phone simply by connecting it via USB. For programmers, ADB is also used to execute commands on a virtual machine Android. detailed instructions.
- Apk (short for Android Package): is the file format used to install the Android software (it works similar, more or less, that is for Windows. Exe). Renaming the extension of this file. Zip you can open it with any operator of compressed files.
-App or Apps: abbreviation of the term application or applications
-App2sd (A2sd): procedure inherent in many Roma coocked, to move applications installed, or install later, the memory card instead of phone memory. to use it you must have an ext2 or ext3 or ext4 on the memory card. part of the application (the Dalvik cache) is still stored in the smartphone does not reduce the speed of execution. app2sd this is not to be confused with the various applications on the market, as those of the market allow the movement or storage of only applications that allow it.
-Bootloader (FASTBOOT): phone mode (while connected to USB mode with usb debug enabled) through which you can do many things, including obtaining root permissions, flash ROM, make backups, pushare files, remove files etc. ... the bootloader mode varies from terminal to terminal, refer to those sections for how to go into bootloader on your device.
-Brick (brickare, brickato): literally (translated in Italian) "BRICK". making the cell like a brick, a something of unusable if not as paperweights.
-Digital compass: The digital compass is able to detect the direction in which the device is pointing. This information can be used together with an appropriate mapping software to assist in navigation to unknown places.
-BusyBox: BusyBox is important because it lets you install it on your Android poteziare with many basic Linux commands. In fact, some powerful programs, such as Titanium backup and others, use busybox to carry out the instructions. In virtually a few kb there are so many beautiful little programs. guide: using titanium or backup.
-Cache: a temporary memory in which data are stored as may be eliminated without compromising the functionality of the system.
-Digital certificate: encrypted code issued to two or more parties by an authorized organization, and used to verify the identity of those parties by exchanging their public keys.
-Cupcake: Android 1.5 or relaise first official operating system pounces April 13, 2009
-Encryption: Procedure for the encoding of a systematic bit stream before transmission, aimed at avoiding that the contents can be decrypted by third parties.
Dalvik-Cache: cache used by the system to increase the execution speed of programs.
USB-Debug: mode of Android that is (turning the feature on your device via menu / settings / apps / Development / Debug USB) to allow the system to undergo special modifications.
Direct-Push Technology: Direct Push technology (push e-mail capabilities), developed by Microsoft, lets you receive new e-mail messages on their device, they are not received by your mailbox Inbox or Exchange Server. Items such as contacts, calendar and tasks are immediately updated on the device if they are changed or added on the Exchange Server.
-Emulator: it is found in the SDK and is a software that allows you to emulate (simulate) an android device. usually serves to developers (developers) to test applications.
-Digital Signature: A digital signature assures the recipient about the identity of the person who sent the file, and the absence of alterations made ​​after signing this.
-Firmware: Software comlpleto the phone, android rom often contains (the only operating system) the radio (software designed to handle all communications) and hboot (the part on the base, and boot management and partition of the phone) . The format depends on the parent company that issues them and shall be flashed through the tool or program.
-Flash (flash, flashed): install, installed.
-G. E. often written or GE (Google Experience): There are those phones that have the OS (see ROM for a definition) fully developed by Google without any addition or customization by the manufacturer that sells the device (for example the number of mobile Nexus is entirely GE). This designation often means that these phones are the first to receive updates of new versions of Android, because there being no additional software, as well as those developed by Google, the release is much quicker.
Another (more common) is that With Google.
Are those phones that despite having some customization software by the manufacturer, are fully compatible with the Google software and services with Android.
-GPRS: GPRS (General Packet Radio Systems - Radio systems for generic packages) is a data service for mobile devices. It is available for the devices that meet the GSM standard.
-GPS: GPS (Global Positioning System - Global Positioning System) is a radio navigation system based on satellites that allows the DENTIFICATION of a geographical position through a triangulation of points. The GPS is used on mobile devices for applications software for navigation.
-GSM: Short for Global System for Mobile communications (Global System for Mobile Communications), is the platform for mobile computing worldwide.
-HSDPA: HSDPA (High-Speed ​​Downlink Packet Access) is a technology for mobile devices that allows higher data speeds than traditional networks. Often referred to as 3.5G for faster downloading.
-HSPA: HSPA (High-Speed ​​Packet Access - High Speed ​​Packet Access) is a technology for mobile devices that improves the speed at which you can send and receive information on their mobile device. HSPA technology is used in 3G networks.
HSUPA: The HSUPA (High-Speed ​​Uplink Packet Access - access to packages for the high-speed) is a technology for mobile devices that provides (along with HSDPA) the possibility of having connections with fast download and upload very high by optimizing use of bandwidth.
-HVGA: The HVGA (Half-size Video Graphics Array) indicates a particular display resolution of 480 x 320 pixels.
-hboot: the part on the basis of partition and boot management and the phone
-Kernel: is the essential part of any operating system. Without going into technicalities, it manages hardware (drivers and other information about the hardware, for example). Android uses a modified Linux kernel and is entirely open source (ie source code is freely available and modifiable).
- Launcher: It 's the software that handles the desktop (icons, widgets, wallpapers etc..) Android operating system. In essence, is what appears when you access the phone after the unlock screen, called Lock Screen (see below) if it is enabled.
Android allows for excellent customization Lacuncher. Although all versions of Android will already have a default, it is possible (when this option is not blocked by the manufacturer) install as many as you want from those in the Market. Launcher The best known of those owners are not ADW Launcher, Launcher Pro, Helix Lancher.
Most producers customize more or less heavily, their phones (as long as they are not GE, see above), and modification of the launcher is usually the most common personalization. Motorola for example sviluppaMotoBlur (non-removable, and includes an additional set of changes including the Launcher), the HTC the Sense (removable; this also includes modifications to the deepest only launcher which also include the framework), Samsung TouchWiz the (removable) etc..
The change of Lacuncher makes it very often no longer available widgets developed for another Launcher.
-Leak Leaked or (escaped): this refers to the ROM or firmware that (strangely) escape to the Mother House, and is circulated on the net. are semi-official, in the sense that they are developed directly from 'manufacturer, but are not officially released (and therefore not fit to restore the guarantee of a device).
Screen-Lock or unlock screen: is the screen that appears after turning on and / or whenever you press the on / off the phone. Used to not press the keys when not using the phone. It requires a combination of specific touches, or gestures to be "removed"
-Nandroid (found in the recovery as amended): application that creates an image of the entire operating system, like norton gost and true image for windows.
-ODEX: type of compression that is used to free up memory and speed up your system. ODEX unzip the file compresses everything and creates a file. ODEX dall'apk deleting the file. dex then you end up with after launcher.apk and launcher.odex (so 'you have saved so much space and improved
the speed reading application). rom the ODEX can not be changed the subject.
-OTA: Over The Air - system that allows applications to receive updates directly from the network or system
Ext2/ext3/ext4-partition: partition on the memory card (which usually can be made using modified recovery) used to install applications on this media instead of filling up the phone memory. the ext is a type of file system used on Linux and is seen as part of the Android smartphone's internal memory. to partition the SD card in the sections and guides for your device.
-Profile A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution profile (Advanced Audio Distribution) is a specification that refers to how two Bluetooth devices can transmit and receive streaming high quality audio. The A2DP allows the transfer of a unidirectional stream audio in stereo with two channels, such as music from one phone to a headset.
-Pull: used command in command prompt (eg adb pull / path / inside / of / Android / filename nome_file_destinazione) copy to your PC for a file or folder in the Android system.
-RUU: (Rom Updater Utility): A RUU is an executable for Windows, used by service centers, which basically formats all phone memory and you install an image of the official system. In general, the RUU ROM version containing a specific stock, the image of the baseband and radio, and bootloader, the versions are listed in the file name.
Radio-or banda or baseband (not the FM radio): software designed to manage all the communications device (phone, wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc. ...
-Recovery: a kind of mini operating system that is used to retrieve the cell from critical situations (brick, malfunction, etc. ....), do nandroid backup, perform the wipe, flash rom coocked and file format. Zip. The Recovery is properly called Recovery Mode and means the recovery mode in which you can perform actions such as, installing updates, format the phone, format and partition the SD and more. Updating the recovery.img (you can also do without the root) with a different and we have modified provisions advanced features without having to do other steps.
-RSS: RSS (Really Simple Syndication - Guild simple): indicates an Internet protocol used to distribute information that is updated frequently, such as a blog on the Internet, audio or video broadcasts or news headlines.
-Rom: the operating system. coocked roms are usually in. zip and go through recovery flashate
Coocked-Rom: cooked rom, created by chefs (who put together parts of rom applications, modifications, patches and so on) composed and enriched with new features
-ROOT (I take verbatim from androidpedia): What is root? In Unix-like operating systems is denoted by the root user with the highest privileges, ie, system administrator, also known as super user or superuser. (Cited in Wikipedia). Android being a linux system, then the user is root, which allows you to have total control of the phone. What a privilege we have to have root permissions? We have TOTAL control of the telephone. rootare the procedure for your device varies from terminal to terminal, consult the relevant sections to find out how to make your root device ..
G-sensor (gyro): The G sensor detects the position and movement of your device. It helps to orient the display to view both vertically or horizontally depending on how you hold the device. The G-sensor can be used in games to control the actions and other applications that require a movement to be able to be activated.
-SDK (software development kit): Software development kit, which we find in the tools folder that contains the file ADB. You can download it from for all platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS).
-S.O. (operating system): see ROM. In fact ROM and SO tend to coincide but while the first term is used to indicate the contents of any memory or the memory itself (it is in fact for Read Only Memory), the second indicates more specifically at a very specific piece of software and not any content that a memory can accommodate.
-Streaming: The term indicates the transmission of streaming audio or digital video using the Internet.
-Superboot: method to become the superuser (root-administrator) of your smartphone, with which you can make changes to the system, such as flash ROM, modify system folders etc. ...
-Tap (capped, plugged): equivalent of left-click on PC, then click in, clicked. TAP LONG = equivalent to right click on pc
-Thetering (wifi, bluetooth and usb): Mode is a connection between the phone is another device (mostly PC), through which you can take advantage of the internet's first, and basically use it as a modem, the second ( which as I said before can be a PC or another phone yet). May be predominantly via USB connectivity, bluetooth or wifi phone.
-Tablet is a tablet device that differs from a smartphone to the screen size (usually greater than the 5 "and for its strong propensity to navigation and document management. It usually does not incorporate a module for telephone calls (one exception is the Galaxy Tab), but often have a data connection via 3G or 4G as well as the WIFI.
Google has developed a special version of Android, called HoneyComb (3.X) for release in 2011. Nevertheless, there are Tablet with Froyo.
-VGA The VGA (Video Graphics Array) indicates a resolution of the display of 640 x 480 pixels.
-WCDMA: The WCDMA (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access) is a protocol for the transmission of data in a 3G cellular network.
-WVGA: The WVGA (Wide Video Graphics Array) indicates a display resolution of 480 x 800 pixels.
Wipe Dalvik-CACHE: reset the system cache. amended by recovery takes place.
Wipe-DATE (factory reset): hard reset (reset phone to factory settings, deletes all data and applications in your phone, no memory card). some recovery in the wiping the data format factory, not a complete hard reset, but a reset of all data in your phone, for a complete hard reset you should also wipe the system and boot from the recovery of the advanced settings or proceed with the procedure manual keystroke! how to do the hard reset via keyboard shortcut see the guides in their respective sections of your smartphone.
-ZIPALIGN: A form of compression that is used to speed up execution of applications. zipalign unzip the file and aligns the compressing apk file limit so 4byte 'Android takes up less ram to read and read more' quickly and then recreates the file. apk ^ ^
If you know other terms that do not understand, this thread is yours.
P. S. I hope to be helpful

this is actually pretty helpful words kinda like a mini dictionary for newbies coming into the modding world of android thank buddy

This should be stickied! :good:
I will see if I can not get mf2112 to add a link to this in his new user thread here.

Kudos for the effort & the great thread. Voted for sticky!

T-Macgnolia said:
This should be stickied! :good:
I will see if I can not get mf2112 to add a link to this in his new user thread here.
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is a good idea, it would be useful

Couple of people asked me to direct them to a guide or something else which explains these terms and I literally searched pretty hard to find a good one
Now I have no worries
Thnx stempox
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

ganeshp said:
Couple of people asked me to direct them to a guide or something else which explains these terms and I iterally searched pretty hard to find a good one
Now I have no worries
Thnx stempox
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
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Thanks man, I'm writing 'cause today I finished shots thanks

T-Macgnolia said:
This should be stickied! :good:
I will see if I can not get mf2112 to add a link to this in his new user thread here.
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Very helpful, great work, added it just now. Rated it 5 stars and added a couple of thread tags. Stempox, you might also want to add more thread tags to make this more searchable.

mf2112 said:
Very helpful, great work, added it just now. Rated it 5 stars and added a couple of thread tags. Stempox, you might also want to add more thread tags to make this more searchable.
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very nice thanks, good idea, because it is often difficult searching for material

Great guide ! Nice job!
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realsis said:
Great guide ! Nice job!
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for new users is very useful

if you suggest other terms to write

updated

new updated

Very helpful indeed...took quite a while to read and I had to subscribe to it since I won't remeber everything...but now I have something to go to when I have doubts...as a newbie, I sincerly give my thanks...
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This is a great guide for those transitioning from iOS to Android... In other words, noobs.
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Mattix724 said:
This is a great guide for those transitioning from iOS to Android... In other words, noobs.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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In did it is...I am one of those!!
Sent from AT&T Galaxy S3 SGH-i747, just in case you were wondering...

thanks!!

I can only say the same as in thread "What does * mean? - GLOSSARY" by benjamingwynn...
I have some problems to understand all of this, because my English is not so good. But the parts I understand, are very helpfully for me. So many thanks for this informations and spending so much time for it.
Greetings, 77777772

What is virtual SD ?? I read on some instruction to place the "ROM and Gapps" in your virtual SD .
There is no thanks button for the author of this list .

Support for dual-frequency GNSS?

The phone is supposed to support dual-frequency GNSS.
Can someone use GPSTest (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest&hl=en&gl=US)
and show a screenshot that demonstrates that the phone can pick up both frequencies?

Attached screenshot, you can see L5 and E5a in use there.

Looks like the screenshot got lost in the mail ;-) But yet I can confirm that dual-frequency is supported.
B2a too

Dual-frequency GNSS works. Positioning in general seems to be quite fast and accurate outdoors, also in forests.
Unfortunately it does not record carrier phase data with GPSTest or other apps (only outputs zeroes), so post-processing (PPK or others) are not usable. Does anybody know whether a custom rom can help with that?

I've seen it couldn't output "Navigation Messages", is that what's missing ? The Mi 8 could do that though I think. Is it really worth doing post-processing with an Android phone though where you're going to be limited by the poor antenna ? What post-processing tools do you use ?

You're probably right about the antenna. I wanted to see how far you can get with this phone. For some of my applications it could be useful to have sub-meter or at least the best accuracy available.
I wanted to use https://jason.rokubun.cat/#!/

Thanks for the link, they do indeed mention Android Smartphones under https://jason.docs.rokubun.cat/examples/ and give instructions on how to log data with GNSS Logger (GNS Logger v3 keeps crashing on me, does it work for you ?). They don't mention Navigation Messages that the Mi 10 '(and all 765G devices) is not capable of but "measurements" should be ok. Did you activate the "Full GNSS measurements" in the Developer Options ?
PS - I tried to create an account on Jason but I'm not getting the confirmation email. I tried "forgot password" and got an email but it won't reset. Looks like the site might have a few issues !

GNSS Logger always crashed on my phone, too. I have successfully used "GNSS/IMU Logger" as well as "GPSTest" instead (I prefer the former but since the last MIUI update (12.1.3) it has some bugs). I have enabled "Full GNSS measurements" in the developer settings.
The site worked just fine for me. At first files from the GPSTest app were not readable by the engine but the developers changed this immediately. They have also been very fast and helpful with my problems so far so maybe try contacting them via mail.

Good to hear, so what phone were you using when you got your data processed by Jason ? I received the email so I'll give it a try with both GPSTest and GNSS Logger v2 with my Mi 10 Lite just in case.
EDIT : so the GPSTest recording was...empty so same problem as you it seems (or I did something wrong while recording) but the GNSS Logger file is 1.8MB and is currently processing but stuck on "Looking for closest CORS station" so I'm not sure what's going on.

Ah sorry, my message was unclear. I have produced valid rinex and raw log files with the Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite but the fields with the carrier phase data were empty. Jason then still processes the files but the output data are not helpful, with positions way worse than what a standard gpx recorder delivers.
Jason usually didn't take long with my files.

Gotcha, I opened the log with excel and the CarrierPhase fields are indeed empty. Is that why we get the " Could not set-up parameters for PPP processing: Cannot perform PPP on Rinex because SP3 orbits for 2021-01-21 16:00:17.429569 could not be found " message in Jason ? That sounds more like a CORS station problem but anyway it won't help with our problem.
The result was indeed poor, worse than what I was seeing on GPSTest actually but I think GPSTest shows the "Android Position", i.e. fused GPS/WiFI/4G

By the way, which rom are you using?
I don't use 4G or Wifi for positioning.

Stock ROM with Miui 11.0.4.0
I'll try turning off data to see what that does to the position. It might be using the accelerometers too to keep it steady.

About the empty CarrierPhase data fields I wonder if the data isn't being made available differently after reading the paper made available here : https://www.researchgate.net/public...g_Xiaomi_Mi_8_Dual-Frequency_Raw_Measurements
Where it says : " Not all available public methods in these two classes are actually in use or of interest for satellite-based positioning. In fact, some variables (e.g., ‘CarrierPhase’) have been deprecated starting from API version 28 [11]"
EDIT : ok, what we need is the "AccumulatedDeltaRangeMeters" and it is indeed shown as 0.0 on the Mi 10 Lite
Looking for some Mi 8 logs now, I'm pretty sure I've seen some somewhere !

See here for example:
https://www.kaggle.com/google/android-smartphones-high-accuracy-datasets
From the "awesome GNSS" list. You can also find a list of device capabilities there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jXtRCoEnnFNWj6_oFlVWflsf-b0jkfZpyhN-BXsv7uo/edit#gid=0
The Mi 10 Lite 5G is supposed to support carrier phase data /accumulatedDelta. It just seems like they are not calculated.
I'm sure you know the GPSTest group:
https://groups.google.com/g/gpstest_android
I'll leave the link for other interested people.

Yes I'm there too ;-) I just mentioned the GeolocPVT app, I managed to build it starting from the .aab, what a hassle ! Unfortunately it can't get a fix with the Mi 10, maybe because of the lacking ADR data ?
Talking of which I ran GNSS Logger v2 on a lowly Redmi 9 and...it logs ADR data ! I'll see if I can post-process some data with Jason.
Thanks for the links for the logs, the video presentation was interesting too. Do you know what the "Ground Truth Data" is ? A geodetic receiver getting RTK corrections maybe ?

I wonder if the Mi10 will ever get proper ADR data...have you had other Android phones that provide that data ?

Sorry, no. I didn't check with the Realme X2 Pro and now no longer have it.