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Ever since I upgraded to 2.2 I've been having issues with superuser. I always receive the notification when an app requests SU, and SU does list those items as having SU permissions, however - I'm having varying results;
Titanium backup - Can remove non system apps fine, can freeze system apps fine, but if I try to uninstall one (for example, stock MMS) it just hangs, and does nothing (I'm able to press home to get out but the process continues to run until I end it.) The rest of the app appears to function as normal.
Quickboot- works just fine (yet requires superuser)
Root Explorer- I'm able to delete system files but as soon as I refresh the folder where I deleted the app, it's still there. (And yes I'm mounted as R/W)
Flashing through recovery - works just fine, no issues.
So far this is what I've done that I thought would correct the issue;
(Firstly, I tried using superoneclick before PNP came out) Tried attempting with both ways and superoneclick advised that root was a success. After doing so, I still had the issues above.
Lastly, I decided to do a clean start when PNP came out so I went back and re-did the 2.2 leak (with odin) re-did CWM, re-flashed PNP (and a theme) yet I'm still in the same situation.
My question is, is anyone else having this issue?
If i'm the only one I will just try to start over again (this time using the updated leak that includes recovery)
I know Ti Backup had issues with removing system apps. As for root explorer I haven't tried to remove any system apps with it.
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bdemartino said:
Ever since I upgraded to 2.2 I've been having issues with superuser. I always receive the notification when an app requests SU, and SU does list those items as having SU permissions, however - I'm having varying results;
Titanium backup - Can remove non system apps fine, can freeze system apps fine, but if I try to uninstall one (for example, stock MMS) it just hangs, and does nothing (I'm able to press home to get out but the process continues to run until I end it.) The rest of the app appears to function as normal.
Quickboot- works just fine (yet requires superuser)
Root Explorer- I'm able to delete system files but as soon as I refresh the folder where I deleted the app, it's still there. (And yes I'm mounted as R/W)
Flashing through recovery - works just fine, no issues.
So far this is what I've done that I thought would correct the issue;
(Firstly, I tried using superoneclick before PNP came out) Tried attempting with both ways and superoneclick advised that root was a success. After doing so, I still had the issues above.
Lastly, I decided to do a clean start when PNP came out so I went back and re-did the 2.2 leak (with odin) re-did CWM, re-flashed PNP (and a theme) yet I'm still in the same situation.
My question is, is anyone else having this issue?
If i'm the only one I will just try to start over again (this time using the updated leak that includes recovery)
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Has anyone figured out the deal woth TB? Ive been having the same issues.
nickrl said:
Has anyone figured out the deal woth TB? Ive been having the same issues.
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Still doesn't work for me to uninstall apps. I just downloaded Uninstaller for Root from the market and it works fine. Do my backups in TB and uninstall from UfR.
akellar said:
Still doesn't work for me to uninstall apps. I just downloaded Uninstaller for Root from the market and it works fine. Do my backups in TB and uninstall from UfR.
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I updated my root explorer and did a fresh install and it corrected the problem also.
Had same issue with TI, used Uninstaller for root but using pick'n'pack was pretty much the same experience
Dually noted on the uninstallation and reinstall of root explorer...
3g Xoom with freshly installed BRD 3.1 packages.
3.1 update went well, reinstalled Titanium to restore everything.
Restore seems to go fine, yet virtually every app that gets restored, once run will FC. Every single time.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
Im not sure, but I think it has something to do with the fact that the update gave us a new android version. I dealt with the same problem last night as well. What was weird was that the only app that restored the app+data without FC probkems was Angry Birds.
Restoring the apps only (no data) worked every time though...
Reboot into recovery, Fix permissions, reboot. I had no problems at all after doing this.
When i use titanium backup i'm only showing some xoom functions, not my apps. How do i fix that? Did look for threads before posting btw.
I had this problem also. I tried restoring all my apps + data and got force closes. I uninstalled the apps and downloaded them from the market- they'd work.. Try to restore data to the newly downloaded app and again it would FC. Market doesn't recognize the apps that are replaced via Titanium Backup so I had to download them anyway just so I would be able to stay updated.
Another problem I had- Titanium no longer recognizes that I bought the pro version. I downloaded both parts (titanium free and the pro version- that's just a key...) but Titanium doesn't open all features after downloading Pro from Market. I see donate version only beside hypershell, etc...
It also takes a VERY long time to ask for root rights when starting up... Anyone else?
I will try to restore one app from Titanium and fix permissions as mentioned earlier in the thread. Here goes nothin'....
To the guy having issues finding his apps- try installing the busybox installer from jrummy16 in the market (the other one didn't work for me), install busybox 1.9 from it because the busybox that TB installs didn't work for me (and other people) and then make sure in your preferences that you have the correct folder selected for backing up. The autodetect worked for me.
EDIT: Wow! Fixing permissions solved the FC issue- now I can restore all my apps. The problem with TB not recognizing that I've downloaded Pro version remains however.
MileHighClubAV8R said:
I had this problem also. I tried restoring all my apps + data and got force closes. I uninstalled the apps and downloaded them from the market- they'd work.. Try to restore data to the newly downloaded app and again it would FC. Market doesn't recognize the apps that are replaced via Titanium Backup so I had to download them anyway just so I would be able to stay updated.
Another problem I had- Titanium no longer recognizes that I bought the pro version. I downloaded both parts (titanium free and the pro version- that's just a key...) but Titanium doesn't open all features after downloading Pro from Market. I see donate version only beside hypershell, etc...
It also takes a VERY long time to ask for root rights when starting up... Anyone else?
I will try to restore one app from Titanium and fix permissions as mentioned earlier in the thread. Here goes nothin'....
To the guy having issues finding his apps- try installing the busybox installer from jrummy16 in the market (the other one didn't work for me), install busybox 1.9 from it because the busybox that TB installs didn't work for me (and other people) and then make sure in your preferences that you have the correct folder selected for backing up. The autodetect worked for me.
EDIT: Wow! Fixing permissions solved the FC issue- now I can restore all my apps. The problem with TB not recognizing that I've downloaded Pro version remains however.
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I'm having the same issues you are having with TB. It takes a very long time to get root permissions and it will not recognize my pro key either. It says "Reboot / See checkout.google.com". I found a thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13728994&highlight=titanium#post13728994 ) that has mention of what at least one person was able to do to get it working, but it's not working for me. My busybox is v1.18.4, but it's just not working.
Fixing permissions didn't do it for me, but I appreciate the response.
It's weird- the apps and data install fine. I run the apps and they seem to load alright but within 2 or 3 seconds they always FC.
It's very odd....
Thanks for the replies folks!
Titanium has been updated. Everything works great now.
Okay, so I have gone through Hansoon2000 (ty btw) All in One kit for T-Mobile Amaze and did steps 1 - 5 and then flashed a recovery, but I don't know where to go now. I would like to start deleting stock apps that I don't want and are taking up space. Can someone give me a few tips on what to do next? I am assuming I need to be in SU mode or something like that.
Thanks.
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Okay, so I have gone through Hansoon2000 (ty btw) All in One kit for T-Mobile Amaze and did steps 1 - 5 and then flashed a recovery, but I don't know where to go now. I would like to start deleting stock apps that I don't want and are taking up space. Can someone give me a few tips on what to do next? I am assuming I need to be in SU mode or something like that.
Thanks.
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If you have Superuser installed, go ahead and download Titanium Backup. Whenever you enter a root app, a SU prompt will appear asking if you want to grant Superuser Permissions.
Its not really SU mode, apps just want the ability to do Super things.
Titanium Backup will allow you to uninstall apps, but when deleting system apps you have to be careful not to do something stupid, like uninstall the settings app. Titanium backup actually does a lot more, you can backup/restore apps and their data, freeze apps (pro only), and more backing up. Its the one app you absolutely need on a rooted device.
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I think you may be looking for something like this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362759 it's made by an awesome dev and is stock sans bloat and very tweakable.
SO everyone tells me "use titanium backup to restore your apps", problem there. Phone was crashing to hell and back again. I used adb to copy out all the apk files from data/app/, data/app-private/ and of course stuck the SD card into my PC to copy off what was on it.
now. the problem is. I have a ton of APK files. Not the files titanium backup makes
So how do you propose i install these quickly, without screwing up my phone?
I've used "app backup restore" and it just ends up screwing up the system process, to where every time an app installs it locks up.
"process system has stopped responding, wait, report, close"
EVERY TIME.
SO... what do i do?
1) did you change rom? Or just did a factory reset?
2) did you clear cache/dalvik before you flash a new rom? or have you tried a clean install yet?
3) have you tried to fix permission yet?
4) did you restore using the files from titanium backup? or just trying to reinstall apks?
Honestly, without using titanium pro, you have to restore the apps 1 by 1 anyways.
And if you dont mind losing the settings etc, might as well just do a clean reinstall using the apks.
Another thing is, never restore system apps, it tends to crash the **** outa your phone even if you are coming from the same rom but older version. So far it only worked well for me when I am simply doing a reinstall of the same rom same version.
hhwong said:
1) did you change rom? Or just did a factory reset?
2) did you clear cache/dalvik before you flash a new rom? or have you tried a clean install yet?
3) have you tried to fix permission yet?
4) did you restore using the files from titanium backup? or just trying to reinstall apks?
Honestly, without using titanium pro, you have to restore the apps 1 by 1 anyways.
And if you dont mind losing the settings etc, might as well just do a clean reinstall using the apks.
Another thing is, never restore system apps, it tends to crash the **** outa your phone even if you are coming from the same rom but older version. So far it only worked well for me when I am simply doing a reinstall of the same rom same version.
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so.. my eaglesblood rom was crashing to F and back again. So i went and flashed ParanoidAndroid JB hack.
First, though, i backed up all user apps with TB.
Now that i'm restoring... i ask what's the damn point of TB? it's the same as every other backup method. Select all, hit restore, then hit "install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. " 250 times till all my apps are installed again.
why do people love this so much? App backup & restore does the same thing.
is it because it supposedly backs up the app data, too? I have like.. one app that i'm concerned about the data, the rest are just time waster games and such that i don't care about having to go through again..
Plus.. it keeps asking superSU for permission over and over (which is granted of course) but... since it's just tossing the backups over to package installer.. i don't see why it needs SU perms..
Eve_brea said:
so.. my eaglesblood rom was crashing to F and back again. So i went and flashed ParanoidAndroid JB hack.
First, though, i backed up all user apps with TB.
Now that i'm restoring... i ask what's the damn point of TB? it's the same as every other backup method. Select all, hit restore, then hit "install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. install, done. " 250 times till all my apps are installed again.
why do people love this so much? App backup & restore does the same thing.
is it because it supposedly backs up the app data, too? I have like.. one app that i'm concerned about the data, the rest are just time waster games and such that i don't care about having to go through again..
Plus.. it keeps asking superSU for permission over and over (which is granted of course) but... since it's just tossing the backups over to package installer.. i don't see why it needs SU perms..
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The paid version makes a world of difference. Just set it to "Batch" and let it go! It will install all apps without the button mashing. Not sure why you're having to grant SU over and over...
footwork* said:
The paid version makes a world of difference. Just set it to "Batch" and let it go! It will install all apps without the button mashing. Not sure why you're having to grant SU over and over...
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I'm not granting. It comes up and says "titanium backup has been granted superuser permission" over and over.
also, if i had 7 bucks i'd get the paid. Does it really install apps on it's own? Uses terminal commands and such, i presume. Hence, the need for SU.
I can at least say this. In "restoring" all 245 of my apps, titanium backup managed to NOT fry what everything else did.
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"system process has stopped responding" when apps updated.
Dear community,
honestly I considered myself not a noob anymore when it comes to flashing, rooting and installing devices. But obviously I was wrong: Cyanogenmod, Titanium Backup and SuperSU are fooling me to madness. :silly: So I hope to find help here because all I want to do is to restore all apps' data. But I will start at the beginning:
I updated my rooted Nexus 7 LTE to CM 13.0-20151226-NIGHTLY-deb and it turned out that Google Play Services continue to crash, no PlayStore could be loaded and so on. I've searched for this issue and don't want to discuss this here as there are many threads for this already.
However, I deciced to switch to OpenGapps and downloaded the pico package for Android 6 on ARM.
By the way I also switched from CWM recovery to TWRP 2.8.7.1.
Finally, CM was running as expected and I danced my pants off!
During all this I formatted the device completely, but made a backup of all apps using Titanium Backup.
So, I re-installed Titanium Backup, copied the backup files to the device and started to "restore missing apps and data" from the bulk operations menu.
All selected apps were installed perfectly (danced again) but then I noticed that the apps' data was not restored.
I searched for this issue and found instructions saying that SuperSU is needed for Titanium Backup to restore data. That was new to me as TB worked fine without SuperSU on my device all the time.
However, I flashed the latest stable Version of SuperSU from chainfire.
After rebooting, the SuperSU app was installed and when it starts, an error popup appears saying that no su file is installed and this has to be done manually.
When I now start Titanium Backup, it prompts missing root access and consequently does not start up.
Furthermore CM is really unstable and freezes from time to time.
So, I lost root by flashing SuperSU? What irony!
Anyway, I am willing to format and re-install my device another time and I would gladly set SuperSU aside as I never needed it in the past. But I really need to get Titanium Backup working to restore the apps' data.
Can anyone of you help me on this, please? Is SuperSU really necessary or do you know a way to manage Titanium Backup without SuperSU on CM13?
cocororo said:
Dear community,
honestly I considered myself not a noob anymore when it comes to flashing, rooting and installing devices. But obviously I was wrong: Cyanogenmod, Titanium Backup and SuperSU are fooling me to madness. :silly: So I hope to find help here because all I want to do is to restore all apps' data. But I will start at the beginning:
I updated my rooted Nexus 7 LTE to CM 13.0-20151226-NIGHTLY-deb and it turned out that Google Play Services continue to crash, no PlayStore could be loaded and so on. I've searched for this issue and don't want to discuss this here as there are many threads for this already.
However, I deciced to switch to OpenGapps and downloaded the pico package for Android 6 on ARM.
By the way I also switched from CWM recovery to TWRP 2.8.7.1.
Finally, CM was running as expected and I danced my pants off!
During all this I formatted the device completely, but made a backup of all apps using Titanium Backup.
So, I re-installed Titanium Backup, copied the backup files to the device and started to "restore missing apps and data" from the bulk operations menu.
All selected apps were installed perfectly (danced again) but then I noticed that the apps' data was not restored.
I searched for this issue and found instructions saying that SuperSU is needed for Titanium Backup to restore data. That was new to me as TB worked fine without SuperSU on my device all the time.
However, I flashed the latest stable Version of SuperSU from chainfire.
After rebooting, the SuperSU app was installed and when it starts, an error popup appears saying that no su file is installed and this has to be done manually.
When I now start Titanium Backup, it prompts missing root access and consequently does not start up.
Furthermore CM is really unstable and freezes from time to time.
So, I lost root by flashing SuperSU? What irony!
Anyway, I am willing to format and re-install my device another time and I would gladly set SuperSU aside as I never needed it in the past. But I really need to get Titanium Backup working to restore the apps' data.
Can anyone of you help me on this, please? Is SuperSU really necessary or do you know a way to manage Titanium Backup without SuperSU on CM13?
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lmao, your title is nice!
i believe your problem is you used the wrong su zip, you need the latest beta, not stable. should be .52 if im not mistaken. .52 is stable even though its not listed as, i have been using it for some time, and its whats needed for M. you may even find some .6 versions, dont use those, they are systemless, well you can if you want lol. i havent tried them yet, so i dont know what pitfalls may lurk.
Thank you for your help and I am happy to entertain
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i believe your problem is you used the wrong su zip, you need the latest beta, not stable. should be .52 if im not mistaken.
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I will try to update SuperSU as soon as possible.
But sadly TWRP now freezes a few moments after I start the device in recovery mode. When the device starts normally, it freezes as well while showing the CM launcher screen. It stays animated but nothing happens. I will try to re-install TWRP via fastboot flash and then install SuperSU .52 and post my experiences here. :fingers-crossed:
Hi again bweN diorD,
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i believe your problem is you used the wrong su zip, you need the latest beta, not stable. should be .52 if im not mistaken.
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Sorry to say so but SuperSU .52 does not solve the problem. In fact, after flashing the BETA-SuperSU-v2.52.zip using TWRP, CM does not start up anymore. The loading screen with the hypnotizing smiley appears and stays animated but even after 15 minutes CM does not start up. Even TWRP was freezing from time to time.
So I re-installed TWRP, CM and Gapps like in my first post again.
So, is the problem that my device is not rooted indeed? Could this be fixed with CF-autoroot or any tool like this?
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448352 although it is for the device deb-razor and my device's bootloader says it is a deb-zoo. By the way, the bootloader displays "LOCK STATE - unlocked".
cocororo said:
Hi again bweN diorD,
Sorry to say so but SuperSU .52 does not solve the problem. In fact, after flashing the BETA-SuperSU-v2.52.zip using TWRP, CM does not start up anymore. The loading screen with the hypnotizing smiley appears and stays animated but even after 15 minutes CM does not start up. Even TWRP was freezing from time to time.
So I re-installed TWRP, CM and Gapps like in my first post again.
So, is the problem that my device is not rooted indeed? Could this be fixed with CF-autoroot or any tool like this?
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448352 although it is for the device deb-razor and my device's bootloader says it is a deb-zoo. By the way, the bootloader displays "LOCK STATE - unlocked".
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hmmm,
i havent used 2.52 on a cm rom, but i have used it on plenty aosp 6.0.* roms without issue.
clean things up so its booting again, then look in developer options and make sure root is turned on. i have seen a few times devs default it to off, but i have never seen a custom rom come not rooted at all.
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clean things up so its booting again, then look in developer options and make sure root is turned on.
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Thanks for your support!
I cleaned everything up -- meaning re-installed everything -- so the device boots up. I checked the developer options and root is set to "apps only". That worked up to now.
Speaking of root: As I wrote I used to have CWM and switched to TWRP. Anyhow, CWM always asked to "fix root" when exiting. I think that's why things worked then and now with TWRP this "fix root" option is gone. But why is SuperSU not working for my Nexus 7 deb? I also tried to install older versions like advised in the Nexus 7 thread here but there was not even a SuperSU app.
So, I recap: CWM used to fix root, TWRP does not. That's why installing SuperSU seems to be a good idea. SuperSU's latest version freezes CM at start-up. Without SuperSU Titanium Backup does not restore app data while other apps do not have problems to get root access. I'm confused
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Thanks for your support!
I cleaned everything up -- meaning re-installed everything -- so the device boots up. I checked the developer options and root is set to "apps only". turn it on apps and adb and see if that helps, thats the preferred setting anywaysThat worked up to now.
Speaking of root: As I wrote I used to have CWM and switched to TWRP. Anyhow, CWM always asked to "fix root" when exiting. I think that's why things worked then and now with TWRP this "fix root" option is gone. its not gone in twrp, it sees that you have root and doesnt ask. really its unadvised to use the twrp generated root anyways But why is SuperSU not working for my Nexus 7 deb? I also tried to install older versions like advised in the Nexus 7 thread here but there was not even a SuperSU app.hmm, maybe thats the problem, maybe you need to install supersu to get things working properly. its on the play store, give it a shot
So, I recap: CWM used to fix root, TWRP does not. That's why installing SuperSU seems to be a good idea. SuperSU's latest version freezes CM at start-up. Without SuperSU Titanium Backup does not restore app data while other apps do not have problems to get root access. I'm confused
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^^^^
so to clarify your last paragraph, when you say that installing supersu breaks things, were talking about the zip right?
i just want you to get the app from the play store, if you havent tried that alone yet. but change the root setting too.
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so to clarify your last paragraph, when you say that installing supersu breaks things, were talking about the zip right?
i just want you to get the app from the play store, if you havent tried that alone yet. but change the root setting too.
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Correct, I was talking about the zip which is meant to be installed through TWRP.
So, I downloaded the SuperSU app after double-checking that root is set to "Apps & ADB" in the developer settings. Btw. debugging and installation from unknown sources (I hope this is the right translation for this feature) is enabled as well.
When I started the SuperSU app, it first says the binary SU needs an update and I could choose the installation method: When choosing "normal", the app tried to install but failed saying "Installation failed! Restart device and try again!" but even after restarting this was what the app gave me. When I chose "TWRP" the app rebooted the device to recovery but I assume this would end up in installing the zip file which crashed my CM.
Finally, I installed CF-autoroot for deb via the .bat file included in the CF-autoroot package. Now, SuperSU and Titanium Backup are not complaining anymore, so I think this root issue is fixed! :highfive: (couldn't find a dancing smiley).
However, Titanium Backup is not bringing back my app data The restore process seems good as Titanium Backup installs missing apps but even if I install an app the official way via PlayStore and then restore the app's data from my backup using Titanium Backup, there is no effect and the app acts like being installed freshly.
TB claims "restore successful" but the app's data is still missing. I will now check if the backup files are really sound and if I can get them to work on another device. The worst thing I could imagine is that TB did not backup data of apps which had been installed on sdcard. In that case, the data is lost, I'm afraid...
Do you have an idea how this could be or what I could try?
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Correct, I was talking about the zip which is meant to be installed through TWRP.
So, I downloaded the SuperSU app after double-checking that root is set to "Apps & ADB" in the developer settings. Btw. debugging and installation from unknown sources (I hope this is the right translation for this feature) is enabled as well.
When I started the SuperSU app, it first says the binary SU needs an update and I could choose the installation method: When choosing "normal", the app tried to install but failed saying "Installation failed! Restart device and try again!" but even after restarting this was what the app gave me. When I chose "TWRP" the app rebooted the device to recovery but I assume this would end up in installing the zip file which crashed my CM.
Finally, I installed CF-autoroot for deb via the .bat file included in the CF-autoroot package. Now, SuperSU and Titanium Backup are not complaining anymore, so I think this root issue is fixed! :highfive: (couldn't find a dancing smiley).
However, Titanium Backup is not bringing back my app data The restore process seems good as Titanium Backup installs missing apps but even if I install an app the official way via PlayStore and then restore the app's data from my backup using Titanium Backup, there is no effect and the app acts like being installed freshly.
TB claims "restore successful" but the app's data is still missing. I will now check if the backup files are really sound and if I can get them to work on another device. The worst thing I could imagine is that TB did not backup data of apps which had been installed on sdcard. In that case, the data is lost, I'm afraid...
Do you have an idea how this could be or what I could try?
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sorry, i really dont know what happens as far as titanium when you put an app on the sd.
glad you got root working though, although i still dont understand why it wouldnt work the right way.
if you run into any more specific road blocks, ill try and help if i can, but this general problem with the data, i havent a clue the problem or solution, short of the data isnt there completely.
Hi again,
sorry for my late reply! I tried a couple of things but here's the most obvious one:
Apparently the backup files are kind of corrupt. I don't know what went wrong there but TB did not create a full backup. Indeed there is a .tar.gz file for every app but in fact none of these has more than 2 KB. So I strongly assume that this might be the mistake - which also means that all my app's data is lost.
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glad you got root working though
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At least this is a success and I am happy to have TWRP, OpenGapps and Titanium Backup running on a fully rooted device :good:
Thank you for all your time and help! I really appreciate how supportive we "techies" are :highfive:
Have a great day and - a bit late but anyway - a happy new year!