Based on other threads, I picked up the Samsung Desktop Dock from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WOBN3I/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00) for my office and it works well, save for audio out via USB (as expected).
It slides into the dock very nicely, and the USB connector usually goes in without any fiddling (on occasion it will take an extra second, literally, to get it slid in). There is less than .5 mm on each side, between the phone and the side of the dock so there is a *tiny* amount of play there but it's nearly perfect.
The dock does also rest fine horizontally with no risk of the phone popping out, although I prefer the portrait since stock android desktop won't rotate (nor will daydream mode).
As you can see in my pictures, since the only thing holding the phone in the dock is the USB connector, the phone can be pulled forward (away from the dock, towards you) by a few cm. It's not a concern unless you're moving the dock around a lot.
Using the phone in the dock works quite well. The dock is heavy enough so that moderate presses do not move it or dislodge the phone. Vigorous presses still could, however. Someone in another thread said they may use this in their car, which I wouldn't recommend -- the USB connector isn't enough (IMO) to hold the phone in the dock when it could be subject to bumpy conditions (double so if you wanted it horizontally in the car).
The buttons are all accessible and the speaker area has a cutout so you don't lose sound. Again, audio out via USB does not work as it's not enabled on the phone.
All in all, a nice desktop dock, especially for $14.
Looks like it's a no go with a case?
Looks like I found my new desk cradle. It's cheap too!
Headphones?
Does the Headphone jack on the N4 still work when docked?
dispatch said:
Based on other threads, I picked up the Samsung Desktop Dock from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WOBN3I/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00) for my office and it works well, save for audio out via USB (as expected).
It slides into the dock very nicely, and the USB connector usually goes in without any fiddling (on occasion it will take an extra second, literally, to get it slid in). There is less than .5 mm on each side, between the phone and the side of the dock so there is a *tiny* amount of play there but it's nearly perfect.
The dock does also rest fine horizontally with no risk of the phone popping out, although I prefer the portrait since stock android desktop won't rotate (nor will daydream mode).
As you can see in my pictures, since the only thing holding the phone in the dock is the USB connector, the phone can be pulled forward (away from the dock, towards you) by a few cm. It's not a concern unless you're moving the dock around a lot.
Using the phone in the dock works quite well. The dock is heavy enough so that moderate presses do not move it or dislodge the phone. Vigorous presses still could, however. Someone in another thread said they may use this in their car, which I wouldn't recommend -- the USB connector isn't enough (IMO) to hold the phone in the dock when it could be subject to bumpy conditions (double so if you wanted it horizontally in the car).
The buttons are all accessible and the speaker area has a cutout so you don't lose sound. Again, audio out via USB does not work as it's not enabled on the phone.
All in all, a nice desktop dock, especially for $14.
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Thanks just ordered me one of this
- Definitely won't work with a case
- Headphone jack works as normal when docked
dispatch said:
The dock does also rest fine horizontally with no risk of the phone popping out, although I prefer the portrait since stock android desktop won't rotate (nor will daydream mode).
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I agree with almost everything in this post as I bought one last week to hold me over until the wireless charging shakes itself out. It's been great.
The only thing that I disagree with is the horizontal mode. Daydream Mode works horizontally with some of the choices. Clock and Beautiful Widgets both work horizontally, for example.
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I agree with almost everything in this post as I bought one last week to hold me over until the wireless charging shakes itself out. It's been great.
The only thing that I disagree with is the horizontal mode. Daydream Mode works horizontally with some of the choices. Clock and Beautiful Widgets both work horizontally, for example.
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Intersting. I cannot make Clock (don't have bw) work 'naturally' in a horizontal position. If I go into display settings > daydream and use the 'start now' feature, the clock does display horizontally. However, no matter how I orient the dock, if daydream starts naturally the clock is in portrait.
I'm using 4.2.1. stock, rooted.
EDIT: are you able to make the built-in daydream clock work horizontally (naturally)? I'll have to grab Beautiful Widgets as well
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I'm using 4.2.1. stock, rooted.
EDIT: are you able to make the built-in daydream clock work horizontally (naturally)? I'll have to grab Beautiful Widgets as well
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Yep. 4.2.1 stock rooted as well.
Auto-rotate screen is checked...
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Yep. 4.2.1 stock rooted as well.
Auto-rotate screen is checked...
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Auto-rotate checked here as well. Still not behaving as yours after reboot. Ah well, looks like YMMV.
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Auto-rotate checked here as well. Still not behaving as yours after reboot. Ah well, looks like YMMV.
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That's strange. I'll check to see if I messed with any setting that I've forgotten about. I literally bought the Desktop Cradle and started playing with Daydream Mode. Can't remember everything that I did off hand...
The only things I see is that I have Daydream Mode to start "When Docked" all else appears to be untouched.
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That's strange. I'll check to see if I messed with any setting that I've forgotten about. I literally bought the Desktop Cradle and started playing with Daydream Mode. Can't remember everything that I did off hand...
The only things I see is that I have Daydream Mode to start "When Docked" all else appears to be untouched.
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Interesting. Mine is set to "Either". When I changed it to "While docked" daydream did not start at all. I don't think the phone (at least mine!) knows it's in a dock.
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here. In any event, my preference is still portrait so not a big deal for me.
dispatch said:
Based on other threads, I picked up the Samsung Desktop Dock from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WOBN3I/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00) for my office and it works well, save for audio out via USB (as expected).
It slides into the dock very nicely, and the USB connector usually goes in without any fiddling (on occasion it will take an extra second, literally, to get it slid in). There is less than .5 mm on each side, between the phone and the side of the dock so there is a *tiny* amount of play there but it's nearly perfect.
The dock does also rest fine horizontally with no risk of the phone popping out, although I prefer the portrait since stock android desktop won't rotate (nor will daydream mode).
As you can see in my pictures, since the only thing holding the phone in the dock is the USB connector, the phone can be pulled forward (away from the dock, towards you) by a few cm. It's not a concern unless you're moving the dock around a lot.
Using the phone in the dock works quite well. The dock is heavy enough so that moderate presses do not move it or dislodge the phone. Vigorous presses still could, however. Someone in another thread said they may use this in their car, which I wouldn't recommend -- the USB connector isn't enough (IMO) to hold the phone in the dock when it could be subject to bumpy conditions (double so if you wanted it horizontally in the car).
The buttons are all accessible and the speaker area has a cutout so you don't lose sound. Again, audio out via USB does not work as it's not enabled on the phone.
All in all, a nice desktop dock, especially for $14.
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Very nice find and very nice price.
For UK people, you can't get this on Amazon UK (from what I can see), but I found it on eBay UK (shipping from US). There are 2 I found, and their product codes match the one linked to in OP -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K33-New-S...787143?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item53efc280c7
and
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-Deskt...979495?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c2c47ae67
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dispatch said:
Intersting. I cannot make Clock (don't have bw) work 'naturally' in a horizontal position. If I go into display settings > daydream and use the 'start now' feature, the clock does display horizontally. However, no matter how I orient the dock, if daydream starts naturally the clock is in portrait.
I'm using 4.2.1. stock, rooted.
EDIT: are you able to make the built-in daydream clock work horizontally (naturally)? I'll have to grab Beautiful Widgets as well
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In theory, if you use Ultimate Rotation Tool or something similar, it will rotate daydream. I am running Stock 4.2.1, with Ultimate Rotation Tool and just did a 'start Now' test of Daydream, and it rotated my clock when i went to landscape.
Granted, I cant test when docked, but Ultimate Rotate seems to work very well, and rotates ALL of my apps that stubbornly refuse to auto rotate on their own.
-EDIT - Just installed Beautiful Widgets and it also rotated in landscape. VERY impressed with the animation in BW in daydream mode
Now I need to wait for my dock to ship from the US
FTR whenever I use the " Start Now" option it does display horizontally. When it starts naturally it does not.
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FTR whenever I use the " Start Now" option it does display horizontally. When it starts naturally it does not.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Yeah I saw that. I have set my daydream to start when i am charging, and I left my phone sitting there. When the screen turned off automatically, daydream started in portrait mode. I moved phone into landscape and the daydream switched to landscape. I had set daydream to use Beautiful Widgets, and set Ultimate Rotate to 'Force Global Rotation'
I too bought one of these. I like it, for the money. Just wish they had an official dock with a dock mode. I tried the Samsung dock APK but it didn't work.
Would this work with the bumper on it?
ynnek63 said:
I too bought one of these. I like it, for the money. Just wish they had an official dock with a dock mode. I tried the Samsung dock APK but it didn't work.
Would this work with the bumper on it?
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Daydream is a dock mode.
If you look at the pictures kindly posted in the op, you can see there is clearly not enough space if the bumper is on, and someone else even posted that it will not work with a case.
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Looks great, Would this work with the bumper on or no ?
OmgitzFire said:
Looks great, Would this work with the bumper on or no ?
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Judging from the lack of wiggle room stock, I'd say no. It's a shame too. I don't really care about wireless charging but I find it difficult to find a nice looking charger that fits with a bumper.
Virtue94 said:
Judging from the lack of wiggle room stock, I'd say no. It's a shame too. I don't really care about wireless charging but I find it difficult to find a nice looking charger that fits with a bumper.
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True, it does seem like a tight fit. =(
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Hi
i have desire s dock station (non oryginal) and i d like to have autorotate home screen or start dock app when my phone is in it
so how does desire s detect dock?
does it have magnetic lik motorola droid or sth?
or it cannot detect and i have to lunch manually the app?
any ideas?
i use [ROM] [AUG 26] Desire S Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 {v0.3} {EXT4 FS}
Use tasker. It can launch dock app started by usb in or / and other state
i read aboaut it but can it for example lunch sth when i plug usb AND phone is landscape (read from gsensor) ??
Yes, it can do that with all things you specified. I tried this with Tasker before a while. Buy tasker or download its trial from home page...
how!?!?!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Tech...W8I4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314535235&sr=8-1
is it only photoshoped or is it possible to rotate home?
its not possible to rotate home screen sense.
But with Tasker, you can launch dock mode app, if you dock your desire S
im testing tasker at the moment but when i found that from my link !!
it is possible desire z rotate home screen when you open keyboard so it is possible
the question is hot to activate it !
it is possible to rotate, there are threads about it. the dock detection may work like in the good old palm days: a certain resistor value on the usually unused 5th pin in the connector. depending on the valye the device will know if it is a dock or cable or whatever.
ok got a dock myself, and indeed it's annoying if the screen does not auto rotate/auto launch dock mode. as menstioned before usually a resistor in the connector is responsible, but from what i found on forum, a value of 45-49kOhm shopuld do it. should, as it does not. it launches the car dock instead, not the home dock. however: 0-10 ohm will do basically all you need to do is connect the 4th pin (which is not connected at all) to ground. if in the home dock app the checkmark is set to auto launch then all is done. put the phone into the dock and the screen gets rotated and dock app launched autmatically.
seems like resistor values are different even between htc phones, there's a sensation thread with some resitor values and it seems not to work for my desire s
nice
but i build myself "case" for landscae dock to made it portrait (with LEGO bricks) and it works ;D
i ve done it becouse i found another disadvatage of dock app
i use bt headset and i couldnt dial up number withoud closeing dock app! so i had to just make my dock portarait
sry for my bad bad english
Valwit said:
basically all you need to do is connect the 4th pin (which is not connected at all) to ground.
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Hi, i'm also interested in this!
Maybe you can write (for someone who has nothing to do with cables) how you did that?
Well, you take a piece of wire, connect one end to pin 4 (soldering will be the best opition) and the other end to the ground, which is very handy at pin 5. that's it.
of course you need to open the case, how you do that depends on the case itself. i had 4 screws at the botom.
palkens said:
how!?!?!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Tech...W8I4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314535235&sr=8-1
is it only photoshoped or is it possible to rotate home?
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I really like it ..
there are som infos, that you can use apktool to decode Rosie.apk, then edit the manifest.xml and changing "nosensor" to "sensor". recompile, upload to phone and it should rotate.
i tried but the rosie.apk i got back was about 60% of the original size, and simple exchanging the encoded xml did not work
Valwit said:
there are som infos, that you can use apktool to decode Rosie.apk, then edit the manifest.xml and changing "nosensor" to "sensor". recompile, upload to phone and it should rotate.
i tried but the rosie.apk i got back was about 60% of the original size, and simple exchanging the encoded xml did not work
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Thanks for the great info. But the results of my experimentation has given me disappointing results. Check it here:
Desire S may NOT or will NOT receive native DOCK support
HTC is sending landscape dock stations... but Sense has no landscape mode !....
Is there any way to we can do to be able to use our dock stations without breaking our necks ?
Something like:
- Enable sense landscape mode ??
- Any app to be able to use a different launcher for portrait and landscape ??
Any ideas ???
Really TY !
i would be very much interested in this too.
mindboggling to think that they place the usb port on the side, design docks in landscape mode, and it wont switch to landscape.
As much as i understood, devices with a physical keyboard seem to be able to display sense in landscape, so i really wonder why that isnt available for the sensation
Thats why I use a portrait dock LOL. Actually I do but not because of preference, more of a need for more desk space at work. . I use craigsdocks.com and I can use any case on the market with these docks. You just need a little double sided tape to adjust anything. Anyways back to topic....
I think you can use launcherpro or some other launcher to go landscape but I prefer stock sense.
You can go landscape mode when the dock app is launched though. To get it to work, I can use an app called llama location profiles, https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kebab.Llama&feature=search_result
It's a condition/action app where you can set current conditions up and then when those conditions are met, the actions you set will trigger. So to trigger the dock app, I set it up where if the condition is when I have it on charging either usb or ac, connected to wifi, or any other condition like setting a time frame, the trigger will to launch the dock app. You can set up the conditions to your liking so that's the cool factor about it, IMO.
just dont use sense, it sucks anyway. best app is launcher pro, which has many useful settings and landscape of course too. the only good thing of sense is the lock screen, the rest is bullsh*t
Bulletproof ROM has dock mode and is awesome.
That ROM is running 1.72 so I'm not sure if Roman include it in his ROM or if it's actually something coming on 1.72.
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try car dock home it works for landscape and portrait mode
I have a case that holds the tablet and the keyboard, which works pretty good. Occasionally, though, I would like to open the case and NOT use the ATTACHED keyboard while holding the tablet in portrait mode. Usually this is to look up something quickly while standing up and it would be awkward to try and type in the search.
I've searched the forums and found nothing that addresses this. I tried a bunch of rotation apps but none of them work with the keyboard attached.
Ideally I would like a widget that rotates the screen into portrait and the same (or another) widget to rotate it back to landscape.
Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?
Thanks
LeeBv said:
I have a case that holds the tablet and the keyboard, which works pretty good. Occasionally, though, I would like to open the case and NOT use the ATTACHED keyboard while holding the tablet in portrait mode. Usually this is to look up something quickly while standing up and it would be awkward to try and type in the search.
I've searched the forums and found nothing that addresses this. I tried a bunch of rotation apps but none of them work with the keyboard attached.
Ideally I would like a widget that rotates the screen into portrait and the same (or another) widget to rotate it back to landscape.
Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?
Thanks
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Yes, I'm using a FREE app called "Screen Orientation Control" by eflow inc. It's a nice one, after installed, it put a control on your notification, where you can access quickly. 3 modes available: portrait, landscape and auto(turn off).
FIXED IT!! Works like a champ. I tried about 8-9 different apps, none of which worked, but this does what I need.
Now only if they had a widget.
Thanks:laugh:
I just installed this one on my TF700 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and it works great:
Ultimate Rotation Control
$2.99 after free 7-day trial, but is quite versatile, and should do what you want.
LeeBv said:
FIXED IT!! Works like a champ. I tried about 8-9 different apps, none of which worked, but this does what I need.
Now only if they had a widget.
Thanks:laugh:
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Why you need a widget, the control is right on the notification same as factory stuff. This is even better than widget, don't you think so?
EDIT: you can set portrait mode with either the dock keyboard to your left or to your right, by hold up your device in your liking, then enable portrait mode.
This app works fine. But, for me, having a widget at a specific spot on the main screen would just make it a tad bit faster.
LeeBv said:
This app works fine. But, for me, having a widget at a specific spot on the main screen would just make it a tad bit faster.
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I disagree with you on that, have it on the notification is way better, here is why,
1. If you are not on home screen, (you either put the widget on every screen or navigate back to home screen
2. when you in the browser or reading a document etc.. and want to switch to portrait mode, you need to go back to home screen, enable it then navigate back to your app. Here you can access it directly through the notification without leaving the page!
3. One less icon on your home screen and since it blended right into your notification it looks more professional done
4. If you have 5 home screens and you put your widget on all of them, you're wasting memory.
5. Again it's your choice..hehehe...
I use an app called Rotate -- it lets you set up specific rotation preferences per-app. Also, it can re-enable auto-rotation even when the dock is attached for most apps.
I only have one main screen and very few apps/widgets on it. About 95% of the use of this tablet is for Evernote to track one specific project. My usual use in portrait is just to look up a suspense date or task status. However, if I did have multiple screens then I could see the advantage of this app in the notification panel rather than a widget.
Cheers
MartyHulskemper said:
I use an app called Rotate -- it lets you set up specific rotation preferences per-app. Also, it can re-enable auto-rotation even when the dock is attached for most apps.
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I'll check this out, too. Thanks.
I'm getting good results from eFlow's "Screen Orientation Control."
With no paid or donation versions, I have to wonder what eFlow's getting out of publishing apps. Pure love of coding, I guess?
*** Another update ***
The 4.2.2 firmware appears to be missing the desktop dock mode entirely. The phone does not go into landscape mode and no dock launches.
*** Another update ***
The 2.2.1 firmware appears to be missing the desktop dock mode entirely. The phone goes into landscape mode but no dock launches.
Nothing I can fix, sorry.
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It has been brought to my attention that this may only work for the US version of the HOX, and not for the international (quad core) version.
See this post in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35485317&postcount=20
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So, after getting used to my Thunderbolt having a nice HTC dock that triggers Desktop mode, I was very disappointed to find nothing yet on the market for the AT&T One X. instead of returning the inexpensive dock, or messing around with software, I rolled up my sleeves and made it happen.
Originally I started making a breakout connection for the USB thinking I'd build a powered bluetooth speaker into the dock but then I realized I had too many projects going on. That's why the tiny breadboard is in the pictures - its part of the abandoned breakout. It's not needed at all, you could safely tape or heatshrink these 1/4 watt resistors for this application.
Also I realized after I started splicing that I needed to pare back more of the insulation, if I had to do it again I'd give myself more room to work with.
In my particular dock, the cable shield is not connected to port shield but it is used as the ground.
Pin 5 (ground) cable shield / black
Pin 4 (ID) Black wire
Pin 3 (Data +) Yellow
Pin 2 (Data -) White
Pin 1 (+5V DC) Red
The signal to go into dock mode is triggered with a resistor between pins 4 and 5.
10kOhm triggers auto dock mode
68kOhm triggers desk dock mode (also, a 47kOhm triggers desk dock mode)
Starting in Car Dock mode allows a toggle to Desk Dock with the switch, but the phone doesn't toggle back to the Car Dock from Desk Dock when switched back.
Not the point, at any rate - the only reason I did this was because I had the two-pole switch and both resistors handy.
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The underbelly (pull off the rubber feet gently)..
If you don't pull off the feet, you won't get the hidden screws.
The top will come off easily. Now you can push the bottom out.
The bottom has a steel weight.
Gently pry the cable out of the base. It lifts out.
Now you can unscrew the other end.
This is how I tested the resistors. Be VERY careful if you do this - the pin can break the wire. For such a tiny wire you need to pierce the side of the insulation.
Proof of concept.
I actually only had a 68.1kOhm resistor handy, it works fine.
Tie the ends of the resistors together to the shield. Tie the center of the switch to the ID wire.
Shrink wrap, tape, or otherwise insulate the connections. TEST FIRST, then reassemble - install switch....
Put it all back together....
Fullsize pics here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ModemJunki/OneXDockHack#
See it in action! (not sure how to embed YouTube properly...)
http://youtu.be/tZ0Mom1wZq4
Looks awesome!! But shouldn't this be posted on Hardware Hacking forum?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
nitrous² said:
Looks awesome!! But shouldn't this be posted on Hardware Hacking forum?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Thanks.
You're probably correct. I'm not a hardware hacker by habit, so I didn't know that forum existed.
Perhaps a mod will move the thread eventually.
Just a quick question, on what PINs did you connect the resistors? I couldn't see where through the pictures.
I wonder if this will work for the Desire S..
Edit.
Found the answer on the video. Thanks again.
Brilliant, congratulations.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I suppose it will work for the international One X too.
Did you have tested with other values of resistance or it needs to be 1000Ohm and 6812Ohm?
Skanob said:
Just a quick question, on what PINs did you connect the resistors? I couldn't see where through the pictures.
I wonder if this will work for the Desire S..
Edit.
Found the answer on the video. Thanks again.
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Thanks for catching that. I added the description for which pins to bridge.
No idea about the Desire S, but it seems multiple HTC phones share common triggers.
xSilv85 said:
I suppose it will work for the international One X too.
Did you have tested with other values of resistance or it needs to be 1000Ohm and 6812Ohm?
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I tested with some other values but only 10k, 47k, and 68.1k (really should be 68k) worked. I can't give more details about other values tested at the moment as I'm on holiday in the Caribbean and I live near Chicago in the USA
But I used the working values based on searches on the forums for other HTC devices.
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Thanks for catching that. I added the description for which pins to bridge.
No idea about the Desire S, but it seems multiple HTC phones share common triggers.
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Thanks man. I'm about to buy this and give it to the GF as she has the one with the One X and I have the Desire S (yeah, go figure ). And thinking about modifying the Dock like as you did to make it easy for her to just dock the phone, rather than docking then opening up the Dock Mode App from the phone.
Anyways, last few questions:
10kOhm triggers auto dock mode = That's the Car Mode App, right?
68kOhm triggers desk dock mode (also, a 47kOhm triggers desk dock mode) = And this is the Dock Mode App, right?
Have you tried syncing on PC while in Dock Mode?
Have you experienced any problem with the dock with the changes?
And also, have you tried connecting a MHL-HDMI and does it work? I heard/saw with an unmodified KiDiGi Charge & Sync Desktop Cradle, it works. You can check out what one member did here.
Thanks again man.
Skanob said:
Thanks man. I'm about to buy this and give it to the GF as she has the one with the One X and I have the Desire S (yeah, go figure ). And thinking about modifying the Dock like as you did to make it easy for her to just dock the phone, rather than docking then opening up the Dock Mode App from the phone.
Anyways, last few questions:
10kOhm triggers auto dock mode = That's the Car Mode App, right?
68kOhm triggers desk dock mode (also, a 47kOhm triggers desk dock mode) = And this is the Dock Mode App, right?
Have you tried syncing on PC while in Dock Mode?
Have you experienced any problem with the dock with the changes?
And also, have you tried connecting a MHL-HDMI and does it work? I heard/saw with an unmodified KiDiGi Charge & Sync Desktop Cradle, it works. You can check out what one member did here.
Thanks again man.
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I don't have an MHL to try. Also did not try sync before going on holiday. No problems but I did go on vacation two days after I made the mod.
You are correct about the modes.
I've achieved the same thing with a few cheap NFC tags.
Stick it on the back of the dock and configure an NFC action against it and it's done.
I wouldn't trust myself with all of that hardware hacking either!
r2b2 said:
I've achieved the same thing with a few cheap NFC tags.
Stick it on the back of the dock and configure an NFC action against it and it's done.
I wouldn't trust myself with all of that hardware hacking either!
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r2b2 said:
I've achieved the same thing with a few cheap NFC tags.
Stick it on the back of the dock and configure an NFC action against it and it's done.
I wouldn't trust myself with all of that hardware hacking either!
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Please make a how-to post. I'd do another dock for the office with NFC.
damn, just realised I have the HDMI model xD
Can you tell me the wiring again?
It is in 2 pieces.. I guess black and white are ground and 5V to charge which. But the rest. How did you uncode them?
See pics
And the resistor values:
The manual does not correspond with pictures?
10kOhm vs 1kOhm?
6812 Ohm or 68 kOhm?
The type of resistor for at least 2,5W? Or is does the power not matter. I see on my dock 5V and 500 mA.
I am confused sorry for being noob
ModemJunki said:
Please make a how-to post. I'd do another dock for the office with NFC.
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Here's what I did:
* Buy a starter pack from RapidNFC (www.rapidnfc.com). These were the cheapest when I did this a while ago (I got "Starter Pack B")
* Download "NFC Task Launcher" from the Market (was £1.26 when I got it).
* Open the app and add an action to do what you want (in my case enable GPS, turn media volume down, launch Satnav program).
Once configured, select "Save & Write" and scan the NFC tag you want to use. If successful, when you put the phone near the tag it'll run the actions you selected.
If you can think of any other uses for the tags they can be programmed and put anywhere.
(I *think* this app doesn't actually write to the NFC tag, just records it's serial number. That means you can re-use the tags if you want by deleting the action and re-scannign the tag under another one)
Hope this helps.
Sorry for the delayed reply - I have been on holiday.
xSilv85 said:
damn, just realised I have the HDMI model xD
Can you tell me the wiring again?
It is in 2 pieces.. I guess black and white are ground and 5V to charge which. But the rest. How did you uncode them?
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Yours is different. We should not guess at the color codes, this could lead to much sadness. But it is clear the hack has to be done at the end that plugs to the phone, it looks like the other end is only for power.
If you look at this pic: https://picasaweb.google.com/ModemJunki/OneXDockHack#5815365590917825778
You can see how I used a thin pin to pierce the SIDE of the wire (look at yellow wire too). The pin allowed me to trace the connections on the connector end to the wire with a multimeter set for continuity testing (beep!). It is VERY important not to try and pierce the center of the wire - they are so very thin that even a pin could break them.
Here is a picture of the dock (not on the phone) connector from the side you can see:
http://im.tech2.in.com/gallery/2012/jun/micro_usb_pinout_271738117322.jpg
xSilv85 said:
And the resistor values:
The manual does not correspond with pictures?
10kOhm vs 1kOhm?
6812 Ohm or 68 kOhm?
The type of resistor for at least 2,5W? Or is does the power not matter. I see on my dock 5V and 500 mA.
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In this picture you see the values: https://picasaweb.google.com/ModemJunki/OneXDockHack#5815365606807034258
10kOhm and 6812kOhm. I used a 6812kOhm because it was what I had available for free - and it's a high-precision resistor. Normal resistor is I think +/- 5%, so mine is well within tolerances.
A 1/4 watt (0.25W) resistor is fine, also you can use a 1/6 watt (0.16W) because this is only for signaling, and the charging current will not flow through this. So as you say, the wattage does not matter for this application.
xSilv85 said:
I am confused sorry for being noob
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I also am a noob, I don't know electronics theory and such, only enough to fix simple things like this.
r2b2 said:
Here's what I did:
* Buy a starter pack from RapidNFC (www.rapidnfc.com). These were the cheapest when I did this a while ago (I got "Starter Pack B")
* Download "NFC Task Launcher" from the Market (was £1.26 when I got it).
* Open the app and add an action to do what you want (in my case enable GPS, turn media volume down, launch Satnav program).
Once configured, select "Save & Write" and scan the NFC tag you want to use. If successful, when you put the phone near the tag it'll run the actions you selected.
If you can think of any other uses for the tags they can be programmed and put anywhere.
(I *think* this app doesn't actually write to the NFC tag, just records it's serial number. That means you can re-use the tags if you want by deleting the action and re-scannign the tag under another one)
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
I assume this will most likely work on the One S as well since they use the same dock.
I have the KiDiGi dock with a HDMI connection port too.
Before I attempt this mod, the first thing I was to clarify is the USB mode. Whenever I plug my phone into the dock, it starts charging, however the USB mode is not detected - so i cant sync or do file transfers, however if I pull out the USB lead from the back of the dock and plug it directly into the phone, the USB mode is detected straight away. So with this said I know the cable is fine, and the ports its connecting to are fine and my drivers are fine. It seems the dock must not be connecting the USB data pins or something?
Can someone clarify this?
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I was very disappointed to find nothing yet on the market for the AT&T One X.
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There is a reason aftermarket desk docks do not support this, and only HTC's speaker dock does...
You might have mentioned that once you've done this, your dock is now essentially useless...
You cannot hear the phone ring, hear alarms go off, listen to music... any sound period. Desk mode also triggers audio-out and thus disables the phone speaker.
Thanks for the post, but there was already a thread that figured all of this out a long time ago.
Today I got red X Fold 2 from Giztop. Ordered on Apr 29, Shipped on May 3, received via DHL to California May 5. Very satisfied with the shipping.
Unboxing: Nice box, it came up with 120w charger, type C cable and the back protector (color matched). I am not sure why the front screen case is not included. First I thought it is missing for me, then I checked YouTube and every unboxing videos show only the back protector case.
Phone was nicely packaged.
Software/Initial install: Box was opened to install Play Store I guess. Unfortunately I was not able to login to google account. So I decided to a complete reset. After the reset, I moved all the apps/data from Samsung Fold 3 to Vivo using the inbuilt transfer tool. I am pleasantly surprised on how smooth that process was. Within few minutes, i transferred 29GB worth of apps/data. So far so good. Also updated to the latest firmware: PD2266_A_13.0.12.3.W1 with April security update.
After the initial setup, I installed my USMoible (Verizon MVNO) sim card. Phone complained that the SIM is not from China and 5G will not work! I picked one of the predefined APN and up and running on 4G HD. Had problem receiving and making phone calls. Rebooted phone few times and now I am able to make calls and getting SMS.
Registered for Vivo account using my US number. Opened the Vivo app, installed Gmail app. This installed all the google services and I was able to access play store. I uninstalled most of the pre installed china apps using the Vivo store app. No problems so far, as I left anything that says Vivo.
I was able to modify battery management settings to get notifications to work for most of my applications. I cannot find auto start settings, but so far I am getting the notifications even though phone screen is turned off. Will see how it goes.
I have not tested the camera yet as I am still figuring out all the settings of the phone.
Hardware: Sold, much better than Samsung Fold 3. I was so frustrated with the narrow cover screen of Fold 3. Very painful to type. Vivo is so nice. Nice cover and inner screens. Both screens have screen protectors, and I DO see the crease when I see the inner screen at an angle. Not as bad as Fold 3 though. Speakerphone is okay, and not great.
Also this phone has the slider button to mute the phone. I did not expect this. This is my first Vivo phone.
I will update my post once I use the phone more. Let me know if you want to me test/verify anything.
I'm just really curious if there's a way that I can still use the outer screen even when it's unfolded? Can I open and run apps on the outer screen when it's unfolded?
On the Samsung Fold it has a work around and I can do that. I was wondering if it's the same on the Vivo Fold.
Thanks.
Dalecious1 said:
I'm just really curious if there's a way that I can still use the outer screen even when it's unfolded? Can I open and run apps on the outer screen when it's unfolded?
On the Samsung Fold it has a work around and I can do that. I was wondering if it's the same on the Vivo Fold.
Thanks.
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Just tried and it does not work.
Dalecious1 said:
I'm just really curious if there's a way that I can still use the outer screen even when it's unfolded? Can I open and run apps on the outer screen when it's unfolded?
On the Samsung Fold it has a work around and I can do that. I was wondering if it's the same on the Vivo Fold.
Thanks.
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You can, there's an option called "lock secondary screen display" in the drop down menu. It's a stock function, no need to install anything
cleverpro said:
You can, there's an option called "lock secondary screen display" in the drop down menu. It's a stock function, no need to install anything
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I do not see that option. Nice to have that feature though.
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You can, there's an option called "lock secondary screen display" in the drop down menu. It's a stock function, no need to install anything
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Where can you find the settings for that?
Settings > display
Also, I was able to setup Nova as the default launcher!!! I created the vivo account, and then I can use Nova. All gestures work perfectly.
I also needed to change the font to an another installed one, as the default font has issues displaying English chars. Long space after apostrophe shows up.
We have it. Also had the vivo X fold plus in the past.
Feels slightly thinner and slightly lighter. Not by much at all unfortunately, it's still too damn heavy, that weight is a pain in the rear!
Looks much better and that inner screen is noticeably better and brighter. Build quality definitely improved.
Ordered Friday from wondaMobile and it was delivered on Monday. 3 says to UK, well done dhl express and amazing as always from wondaMobile!
Battery life immediately better, noticeable straight away, but that external screen annoyingly only goes as low as 60Hz, would have loved a proper LTPO external screen to save battery. Sigh. Inner screen will go down to 1Hz depending on what brightness level it's on and it's just amazing, really is!
Nothing needs to be said about the 8 gen 2, it's a resounding success.
To summarize if you've come from a X fold plus it's just not a big enough upgrade to bother with. Both screens are really lovely though, battery life is OK, should have been better, bigger battery and LTPO external screen needed! That's always more important than 120w fast charging which will just age that battery faster.
Torn, will we keep it? might not but if you've never had a fold, this is the best from any company so far, I'm my opinion, after having the honor magic V, z fold 4, mix fold 1&2,
Any stylus support? Also, did you have to create a Vivo account in order to get the okay store to work? In on the fence, and after 3 Fold devices with a narrow front screen, I'm ready for a change. Thanks for taking time to read and respond to my post.
No pen support. I tried fold 3 pen on both the inner and outer screens but no go.
I created the vivo account using my US phone number during the initial setup and it worked just fine. I get the SMS couple of times during this setup.
While changing the launcher, it asks you to enter the Vivo account password to confirm. Once done I was able to able use Nova without any issues. Note that Nova does not support inner screen properly. It just blows up the icons and widgets of the home screen to fit the inner screen and it looks ugly. I may try a different launcher or go back to the Vivo one.
Outstanding issues:
1. MMS not working with USMobile. Tried different APNs but still no go.
2. Whatsapp audio calls cuts out every min for about 5-6 seconds. This is with ear speaker, speakerphone and Bluetooth. This is also with screen on. I had similar issues with OnePlus 9/10 US versions, but had no issues with Samsung. Very annoying.
3. Google timeline does not work, but it is not a big deal for me.
Very nice hardware compared to Samsung Fold 3, but software is not polished.
I have a ZFold4 (T-Mobile)..............if I were to get the Vivo X Fold 2, what initial issues would or should I expect?
ycats said:
I have a ZFold4 (T-Mobile)..............if I were to get the Vivo X Fold 2, what initial issues would or should I expect?
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Almost the same as mine! check my review comments. I came from Fold 3. Love the Vivo hardware, but on the software side, need to spend lots of time tweaking the settings/applications to make it work the way US phones work. Getting notifications consistently from apps is challenging. Google maps timeline does not work as well as Android Auto. TMobile 5G works.
No case available anywhere in US. The one included with the phone only has the back plate and the front screen/sides are fully exposed. I ordered one from China via ebay.
Can uninstall most of the preinstalled apps, but the V-Store (Vivo's version of app store) is completely Chinese. Also some pop up message are completely in Chinese including the button labels.
If you do not want to tinker or do not have time to spend to do the tweaks, I do not recommend this.
ugh about Android Auto, since I got a new car three months ago that uses it
gkarkala said:
Also, I was able to setup Nova as the default launcher!!! I created the vivo account, and then I can use Nova. All gestures work perfectly.
I also needed to change the font to an another installed one, as the default font has issues displaying English chars. Long space after apostrophe shows up.
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I received my x fold 2 today and I set up nova, but it constantly keeps reverting to the original launcher...any ideas?
CarlnTheCity said:
I received my x fold 2 today and I set up nova, but it constantly keeps reverting to the original launcher...any ideas?
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Did you setup vivo account?
under settings look for "Allow the launcher to be replaced" option and select it. If you have the Nova account, it will ask you for the password. After this...
open Nova. There will be a red banner at the top of the nova app asking you to set it as default. Follow the directions.
Yes did all that set nova as the default and when you hit home it keeps going back to the system launcher
Set up my vivo account
Allow the launcher to be replaced
Opened nova and set as default
Keeps going back to the system launcher
how is multi tasking on the device? I generally like to play a game and have a video in the corner. Can you see how small you are able to shrink a YouTube window. And if clicking the button to make YouTube video while floating full screen makes it turn into a mini video player
NEW UPDATE JUST HIT! Version 13.0.12.11 lets see what improvements that brings. Camera was updated too
CarlnTheCity said:
Yes did all that set nova as the default and when you hit home it keeps going back to the system launcher
Set up my vivo account
Allow the launcher to be replaced
Opened nova and set as default
Keeps going back to the system launcher
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What do you see for home screen under default app settings(apps & permissions->Permission Management? I have Nova7.