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Alright, so I have been testing the waters with my HTC Magic over the last several weeks. I have it unlocked and rooted, updated radio, everything has been going quite well. A few weeks back, I settled on a ROM that seemed to work best for me, and I have installed plenty of apps, widgets, and I have the customization down to a T.
But I wish to continue trying out different ROM's. Who knows, I may find something I like even more! As a fallback though, I wish to preserve all the hard work I put into my current setup. I can't find anything definitive about exactly what a Nandroid backup does, but from what I can see, it is implied that it will save all apps, settings, etc. I'm just wondering if that's correct.
So let's I'm running Android 1.6, I do a Nandroid backup, and then I wipe everything and install a compatible Froyo ROM. Would I be able to restore the backup and have everything the same as before? Or, let's say I don't like the ROM, so I wish to return to the same one I'm currently running. When I restore the backup, will it look like I never changed anything at all? Will there be lost apps or settings, or possible broken apps??
Should sound pretty straightforward, but I just want to be 100% sure before I mess around. Thank you all very much
As far as apps & settings try titanium backup, the donate version offers a 1 click back up, comes in pretty handy if you do alot of flashing, there is a free version as well but you have to manually back your stuff up one at a time, which is a pain if you have alot of stuff, but free is free & it is always nice to try before you buy... My back up pro will accomplish the samething, but I prefer titanium as I feel it has a little better options. So nand backup for your roms & titanium for apps and data and you can go nuts flashing and trying out roms with relative ease... The only issues you may run into would be compatibility of apps going from 1.6 to 2+.
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Thank you very much for the quick response.
So let me get this straight. Nand only backs up my ROM, but nothing else? I need another app to backup apps/widgets? I will check out Titanium Backup.
Worst case scenerio, I used ShootMe to take screenshots of everything important
A nand backup/restore should get everything back to how it was. Titanium backup is handy for keeping your apps, settings, etc... When switching from rom to rom.
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maxomus said:
A nand backup/restore should get everything back to how it was. Titanium backup is handy for keeping your apps, settings, etc... When switching from rom to rom.
Here:
http://tinyurl.com/2e7p95o
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Here is a link to the tutorial i wrote on Nandroid
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_backup_or_recover_via_Nandroid
I have a question about NANDROID
ez. I used the ROM: LeeDrOid_V1.9a on my HTC desire. I did a full backup NANDROID. now update the ROM to LeeDroid_v2.2a( this ROM is include a new kernel for overclock to 1113mhz), and do a restore my backup NANDROID.
IT seems everything comes back to V1.9a( I check in " software Information" shows software number is v1.9a, even the kernel is rollback too)
is it normal?
I want to use LeeDroid_v2.2a because it has new kernel for overclock to 1113mhz but I dont want to install all apps again. what should I do?
I rooted my phone using SuperoneClick for mac/linux, and it was very simple. It said my phone was rebooting and that my phone was rooted.
Now what do I do? What can I do with rooting? I don't see any difference on the mainscreen. What I did was went to look at my applications and realized I have "SuperUser" now.
When I click that, I have LOG, Apps, and settings, the only thing listed is settings. How can I remove certain bloatware that I don't need?
Get titanium backup so you can uninstall bloatware- if you pay $6 you can freeze the bloatware instead of removing it completely.
A program like Root Explorer can help you get rid of the bloatware as well. Just navigate to System/APP and delete what you don't want. Just be carefull not to delete the wrong software, I think there is a list in one of the threads here of what is safe to get rid of.
Yeah, just get an App manager that uses root access (I use Anttek App Manager). You can either freeze such apps or delete them entirely. You can also change CPU speed, and eventually upgrade to CM7 when it's released, and quite a few other things!
Before doing anything though, I'd recommend backup up your phone with Rom Manager.
Okay, so your steps should be this....
First download ROM manager to back up my system?
Then I download app manager so I can freeze/delete? Freezing might be safer for a newb like me.
that is what I did
I backed up the phone using ROM manager, but where can I find where that backup is to make sure I did it successfuly?
If you are thinking about getting into some serious tinkering, custom ROMs, Kernels, etc. You will probably want to use the NVFlash method to load in clockwork recovery. This method and a good backup of your system should help bail you out of the most circumstances.
Yes, but I'm not sure where to find the backup? I want to make sure the backup was successful. Please someone help
Backups will be found in the clockworkmod/backups folder. Check there to make sure u are doing it right and have a backup.
What can you do with root? As a beginner I would recommend you go slow:
1- Install interesting apps that require root: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
2- Learn how to make and restore nandroid backups w/ Clockworkmod Recovery.
3- Freeze bloatware with Titanium Backup Pro.
4- Eventually get to flashing custom ROMs once we get some !
Backup should be on your external sd card in a folder called clockworkmod/backup
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I backed it up, went to clockworkmod and my backup, but it doesn't say anything when I click it, neither does it show up in the manage and restore backup
bump, anyone?
try again?
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I rooted my phone using SuperoneClick for mac/linux, and it was very simple. It said my phone was rebooting and that my phone was rooted.
Now what do I do? What can I do with rooting? I don't see any difference on the mainscreen. What I did was went to look at my applications and realized I have "SuperUser" now.
When I click that, I have LOG, Apps, and settings, the only thing listed is settings. How can I remove certain bloatware that I don't need?
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why would you do this to your phone and have no idea what it does or how to take advantage of it?
that's like hotflashing a bios just because it sounds cool.
I'm new to it and want to freeze bloatware? And plus, I can google on how to do stuff and "take advantage" of it =) Thanks
And I just made a back-up and that one is not showing up, gave it a name and everything, would the best thing to do is to uninstall rom manager and install it?
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I'm new to it and want to freeze bloatware? And plus, I can google on how to do stuff and "take advantage" of it =) Thanks
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that sound like an easy way to get in over your head
rofl, i still can't get even make a backup, i tried making the back-up twice, and it's showing me the first one, but when I go to manage/restore, it doesn't come up
Do u have an sdcard mounted? If not u need one.
My phone is about to be taken away (XPERIA X10) for a replacement in few days. I want to back up everything on it, not just the apps or settings. I want to back up the Android 2.2 which I have on it, all the apps in it with the settings.
I had 2.1, i have got everything ready, such xrecovery and etc.
Could you tell me a way I could also backup my root files (not the sd files).
Thanks
does any one know what I could use
Is your phone rooted? If so, you should use Titanium Backup. You have the ability to backup all your system files and data files. However, keep in mind that when you restore system files, they will need to be restored on the same version of Android that you had on your original phone. If not, you can have many conflicts on restore.
If your phone isn't rooted, there are several backup programs in the Android Market and Amazon's market that do backups.
Don't know if this will help, but if you could provide more information on your question, you will probably get more specific answers.
Good Luck!!
As long as it's a replacement of the exact same phone with the exact same OS, I'm pretty sure you could just use something like Titanium Backup to handle all this if your phone is rooted.
I do have my phone rooted, I want to backup everything, everything, so I can restore the phone as it was. Dont worry about the new phone, i can root and get android 2.2 on it.
As said, Titanium Backup is your best bet. If you're talking about something similar to a nandroid backup through your recovery, you cannot restore those across phones with causing major problems.
Backup your apps + data with TB, but I wouldn't restore any system data. Download the rom you're currently running & have your root method handy. Setting back up shouldn't take too long. I'd take screenshots as well to help when setting widgets back up because TB or any other app cannot restore those.
EDIT: Also backup your contacts/calendar through gmail. Go in to your Accounts & Sync settings and choose sync now. Don't restore anything backed up with Google through Titanium Backup, you might get duplicates.
Hello XDA devs, this is my first time making a thread here. To keep it simple, I have an Nvidia Shield Tablet rooted on OTA 3.1 and I have just filled the recall to get a new one. I use Busybox, GLtools and FolderMount. So I have lots of things made on this tablet, my bootloader is open as well. I would like to know how I could backup this tablet so that I can make the new one just like this one without passing too much trouble. The fact that this one will be dissabled when I use the new one is also one of the problems that must not be overlooked.
Nandroid backup from recovery and copy the backup to a SD card and restore it on the new device.
Nandroid might mess up serial numbers if the backup from the original device carries over that information.?
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I was thinking something along the lines of backing up my app and user data with Titanium Backup, moving it to my sd card and then unlocking the booloader on the new tablet, rooting it and doing a restore with Titanium backup, with that backup I made on the old device. Would that work? Or would the nandroid backup work and be more effective?
What kind of serial number? If so, it would be somewhere in the hardware and a nandroid is just backing your data...
I believe Titanium requires root, so you've got a cart and horse problem. I think you can fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img and make a nandroid backup without unlocking bootloader though. Never tried fastboot boot on the shield though.
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I would be interested in a step-by-step for unrooted stock Android 5.01 backup. I'm familiar enough with rooting / TWRP / flashing etc., but haven't done it on this device. Looking for easiest option. Since it's less than a month old I may just back up basic files manually and then wipe it, but if there's an easier way without going through trouble of rooting I'd be good to try it out. I've got the LTE version, by the way.
I have read that some people claim it to be possible to use a Nandroid backup for a same model phone or tablet, by following some procedures, while there are others who claim that it should not be possible.
I'm going to go the Titanium route just to be careful, as for the fastboot commands from pc, etc., I have done that before so opening the bootloader on the new device and re-rooting is not a big deal for me. I am more worried about whether FolderMount will work without problem on the new tablet when I restore with Titanium or not. I won't be making changes in my sd card, so I hope once I recover, Foldermount works and recognizes the links I've made.
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I have read that some people claim it to be possible to use a Nandroid backup for a same model phone or tablet, by following some procedures, while there are others who claim that it should not be possible.
I'm going to go the Titanium route just to be careful, as for the fastboot commands from pc, etc., I have done that before so opening the bootloader on the new device and re-rooting is not a big deal for me. I am more worried about whether FolderMount will work without problem on the new tablet when I restore with Titanium or not. I won't be making changes in my sd card, so I hope once I recover, Foldermount works and recognizes the links I've made.
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When you restore your files on your new device, Titanium asks if you to restore your old ID to prevent problems with restored apps. So yes, foldermount and such will work correctly if you do that.
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When you restore your files on your new device, Titanium asks if you to restore your old ID to prevent problems with restored apps. So yes, foldermount and such will work correctly if you do that.
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Would restoring my ID do anything else? I assume there would be no side effect.
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Would restoring my ID do anything else? I assume there would be no side effect.
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Correct, there will be no side effect.
How did it go?
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Hello XDA devs, this is my first time making a thread here. To keep it simple, I have an Nvidia Shield Tablet rooted on OTA 3.1 and I have just filled the recall to get a new one. I use Busybox, GLtools and FolderMount. So I have lots of things made on this tablet, my bootloader is open as well. I would like to know how I could backup this tablet so that I can make the new one just like this one without passing too much trouble. The fact that this one will be dissabled when I use the new one is also one of the problems that must not be overlooked.
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Did you use Nandroid or Titantium & if you use Nvidia Hub does rooting affect it please?
AbrahamZX1 said:
I have read that some people claim it to be possible to use a Nandroid backup for a same model phone or tablet, by following some procedures, while there are others who claim that it should not be possible.
I'm going to go the Titanium route just to be careful, as for the fastboot commands from pc, etc., I have done that before so opening the bootloader on the new device and re-rooting is not a big deal for me. I am more worried about whether FolderMount will work without problem on the new tablet when I restore with Titanium or not. I won't be making changes in my sd card, so I hope once I recover, Foldermount works and recognizes the links I've made.
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Do a nandroid backup in TWRP. I just did this exact same thing for my recall replacement! It works just fine. All you have to do is rename the backup folder, because TWRP saves the nandroid backup in a folder that is named what your Tablet serial number is. You have to rename the folder and change the name to your NEW Tablet serial number, otherwise the backup will not even show up in TWRP on the new Tablet. I assume this is done so that people that create backups of several different devices, onto an sdcard for example, can't accidentally restore an incompatible backup (say a nexus 6 backup on a nexus 5). I can assure you though it works just fine as long as both devices are the same.
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Did you use Nandroid or Titantium & if you use Nvidia Hub does rooting affect it please?
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I haven't received the recall tablet yet, so I still haven't had the chance to do the restore. I will be saving a backup for both methods though and try out a Nandroid restore first. Rooting hasn't affected any Nvidia app for me.
Success for non-rooted Shields
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Did you use Nandroid or Titantium & if you use Nvidia Hub does rooting affect it please?
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Used Googles non advertised ADB command line backup, Helium backup also uses ADB for a user friendly UI if your not command line savy.
Seems to have worked but will report back if the full APK + data has left glaring holes etc. Lastpass wasn't installed but thats a plus security wise.
Hello again good people,
You may remember me asking questions in this forum recently, thank you again for all those who replied.
I'm back again after waiting for the official twrp to be released and reading all the forum posts in the guides section for the threads about twrpless-root (magisk) and the stickied twrp root guide by Funk Wizard. I am still a bit confused about a couple of things though. And still deciding which way is the best for me now that I still have a stock device. Please correct any mistakes I make.
When I root, in case something goes wrong, I cannot do a system settings -> factory reset. (Because it would softbrick?)
Is this where twrp comes in? Or will I still have to flash a stock image regardless, like I would if I go twrpless?
Is it true that I can make, and restore from a backup I make with twrp in case something goes wrong?
Isn't that something I can also do with Titanium Backup?
Twrpless root seems like it's a lot more easy to maintain with OTA's (download from the settings, reinstall magisk on second partition) than a twrp install would (having to connect my device to my pc and going through the steps again every time an OTA gets pushed).
The main reason I'm asking all these questions is because I still find it hard to pinpoint exactly why more experienced people in these forums favor one way or the other, and what exactly the added benefit would be of twrp in my situation. Personally, I want my phone to be more customizable (black theme, adaway, yt vanced and so on) but keep all the functionality. Banking apps, wifi, cellular and everything.
I'm not going to install custom roms. And a little bit of added ease of use with OTA sounds really good to me.
I have read that the systemless magisk twrpless might be the best fit for my needs, but after hearing your advice from my previous questionthread I decided to wait for twrp. Now twrp official is released and I dove into reading just about everything I could find I have doubts if it is something I actually need. In short I just keep swaying without being able to make a decision.
Sorry for the long post, I hope my questions are clear enough, since it's pretty late when I'm typing this. I just want to be thoroughly informed about all of this, I rather post too many questions and root correctly without concerns instead of having to make an SOS post later when my phone has exploded, lol.
And maybe there will be other newlings who can benefit from this information.
Thanks for reading!
Ok lets first address the types of backups.
Type one is system apps and data. This backup saves all apps (apk) and all data that is stored within the app folders. This is a Titanium backup.
Type two is a Nandroid backup. This backup saves your entire phones data including the internal storage, data, apps, pictures, music, cache, settings, passwords, EFS (encrypted file system) and even the Titanium backups backup itself.
Now let me explain what each of these backups are capable of. First we will start with Titanium Backup. If for some reason you brick your phone and lose all of your data. In order to use Titanium Backup you will have to install your operating system, unlock your bootloader, root your phone, install Titanium Backup and merge your data from wherever you have it to your device and install your apps + data one at a time.
Nandroid backup. Same scenario bricking or losing your data. You can simply fastboot the twrp.img once your phone boots into recovery you can merge nandroid backup point TWRP to the restore location and you have your operating system and all of your data back in place as if nothing happened. You will then flash Magisk back to your device then you would install TWRP clear your cache and once you reboot everything is just the way it was when you created the nandroid backup.
Installing an update with TWRP is as simple as downloading the update and flashing both the update and Magisk, clearing cache and rebooting.
Having TWRP would allow you to wipe and reinstall fresh like factory settings or you can restore everything you backed up.
Make Nandroid backups bi-weekly or monthly so you can always have an updated copy of your data.
Titanium backups I have scheduled once a week with 2 max backups. Why 2? If I update an app and my backup runs tomorrow I would be stuck with an app update that may be broken. This way I have the previous weeks backup to reinstall the app and data with.
Whichever you choose always always always keep redundant backups. One on the phone, one on your computer, one on a thumb drive ect ect.