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Is it safe to share my phones info from the menu such as the kernal version etc as i need to find out if my phone has been reverted back to stock so i can get it repaired.
If so i will post the details and could you guys help me out?
Thanks
Why wouldn't it be safe?
Not sure, i am a complete noob at this stuff hehe
arndroid version, baseband, cpu, mem, mod, build number are all safe to share.
No one can do any harm with those.
Thanks aha, are you good with troubleshooting issues with android phones?
My Galaxy 5 Stock 2.2 is experiencing severe battery issues which renders the phone useless as it will die in under 10 minutes from a "full" battery.
Any ideas what the issue is?
Look up reseting battery stats.
Apart from that there is no issue that would cause a phone to go from 100% to 0 in 10 min aside from a faulty battery.
Already reset the battery stats, recalibrated it etc, tryed everything.
Then your battery is f'ed... :-(.
x2
Look into getting a new battery or have it replaced if still under warranty.
Dark3n said:
Look up reseting battery stats.
Apart from that there is no issue that would cause a phone to go from 100% to 0 in 10 min aside from a faulty battery.
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Thanks guys, a kind member of these forums said he will see if he has a spare battery he can mail me, appreciate this guys!
Hi Guys, i'm noob, i wana ask about my htc sensation, after 2 year i'm using it, today i found
when battery charging (htc Senstaion) dismiss displaying percentage of battery after i restarting while charging.
****battery charging ------> Battery percentage displaying 60% then i restarting the phone while this situation
and then when phone finish restarting and ready to use battery precentage displaying 100%(full)
is it normal?
sorry my english bad
Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
Sent from my HTCSensation using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
rzr86 said:
if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
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After rooting??? R u sure about that ??
I was suffering same issue before rooting and after rooting..
Wipe battery status is useless here ..
Its HTC's fault....
Itsakash said:
After rooting??? R u sure about that ??
I was suffering same issue before rooting and after rooting..
Wipe battery status is useless here ..
Its HTC's fault....
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before rooting?
for me that never happened
also wipe battery stats is useless and indeed it is htc's fault
rzr86 said:
if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
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Just a percentage misreading? But if the phone thinks it's at 100% won't it stop charging then?
emrvb said:
Just a percentage misreading? But if the phone thinks it's at 100% won't it stop charging then?
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probably it stops
i am not sure about that
edit: the point is the battery is increasing its percentage slower when it passes 60%-70%
but it charges the same
so if you reboot the device then it jumps at 90% or full charge
rzr86 said:
probably it stops
i am not sure about that
edit: the point is the battery is increasing its percentage slower when it passes 60%-70%
but it charges the same
so if you reboot the device then it jumps at 90% or full charge
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Is it known what causes this?
Someone above said "it is a htc's common issue after rooting". Is there any source on that? For all I know, percentage of charge of battery is determined by a combination of output voltage and amps, preferably referenced by a table taking battery age into account (correct me if I'm wrong though).
Rooting the device should not be an issue, unless HTC did something in their rom to detect this and let the battery percentage be wrong. Then again, most of us aren't on the stock rom. To be on another rom, the bootloader needs to be unlocked. Did HTC do something that unlocking the bootloader makes voltage/discharge readings unreliable? I doubt that...
I'm interested in this because I unlocked and flashed a Sensation XE for a friend of mine (SultanXDA's KitKat rom), but the battery discharges very, very fast, without an obvious cause. So I wonder whether it could be the battery is not fully charged and/or the phone decides it's empty to early.
"it is a htc's common issue after rooting"<- i said that
it was a source but i can't find it now
also i don't know if htc did something with unlocking the bootloader by purpose
if you flashed the rom recently don't judge the battery too early
give it 4-5 cyrcle charges until it settles down then see how it goes
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I unlocked and flashed a Sensation XE for a friend of mine (SultanXDA's KitKat rom), but the battery discharges very, very fast, without an obvious cause. So I wonder whether it could be the battery is not fully charged and/or the phone decides it's empty to early.
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I have exactly this problem.
It sounds like the same ROM, Saltan kit kat. I am using the latest kernal 3.4, having tried two kernals I get the same results. For example I charged the phone to full, and after 2 hours of use I'm down to 55%, WiFi on and browsing, gmail synced but not much else, screen brightness turned down etc.
I only flashed a couple days ago, will it improve massively over the next few days?
The phone was giving a days charge easily before flashing.
I am also noticing a message saying 'unfortunately process com.android.phone has stopped working' (or similar). When this happens and I click OK I notice the signal disappears for a few seconds before coming back. Could this be the cause of the problem?
Could it be he ROM?
I'm new to all this but managed to unlock, root, flash recovery, and flash the ROM thanks to the brilliant guides on XDA. Any help with the above would be appreciated.
Rob
i am facing the same problem , rather my problem is goes much further .
iam on stock ROM and not rooted my sensation. my device often restart automatically even when battery is about 90% or battery is 40% and it continue this from last 2-3 months.
and after restarting battery percentage is also changed, see attached pics.
i am tired of this rebooting , i observed that restaring is mostly when i connect to calls or text msgs.
can somebody pleeeeeeaase help me.
tAheEr73 said:
i am facing the same problem , rather my problem is goes much further .
iam on stock ROM and not rooted my sensation. my device often restart automatically even when battery is about 90% or battery is 40% and it continue this from last 2-3 months.
and after restarting battery percentage is also changed, see attached pics.
i am tired of this rebooting , i observed that restaring is mostly when i connect to calls or text msgs.
can somebody pleeeeeeaase help me.
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since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
rzr86 said:
since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
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thanks for ur reply ,
i have inserted plastic card behind battery for proper contact (adviced by many people at xda) but problem is not solved. my battary is 6 month old.
may be it is battery as i purchased from local market.
i have ordered new battery and soon will recive that . will let you know.
i have observed that mostly mobile got restart when i make/recieve calls and sms.
Spawn-uk- said:
I have exactly this problem.
It sounds like the same ROM, Saltan kit kat. I am using the latest kernal 3.4, having tried two kernals I get the same results. For example I charged the phone to full, and after 2 hours of use I'm down to 55%, WiFi on and browsing, gmail synced but not much else, screen brightness turned down etc.
I only flashed a couple days ago, will it improve massively over the next few days?
The phone was giving a days charge easily before flashing.
I am also noticing a message saying 'unfortunately process com.android.phone has stopped working' (or similar). When this happens and I click OK I notice the signal disappears for a few seconds before coming back. Could this be the cause of the problem?
Could it be he ROM?
I'm new to all this but managed to unlock, root, flash recovery, and flash the ROM thanks to the brilliant guides on XDA. Any help with the above would be appreciated.
Rob
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Does anyone have any ideas? Today the phone lasted around 12 hours but with minimal use which isn't really good enough. I thought rooting and flashing would improve battery life but so far I am disappointed. I may try another ROM tomorrow.
Rob
i'm try to buying new original batery but still same problem,
now i'm trying viver rom sc.5.1, with last Sebastian FM kernel
this rom verry awesome i'd like this but baterry percentage still problem:
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DEVICE: HTC Sensation Z710e
PREVIOUS ROM:Rooted Stock Rom ICS Sence 3.6
CURRENT ROM:ViperS 5.1.0 JB Sense 5
FIRMWARE:3.32.401.5
PREVIOUS KERNEL: htc kernel
CURRENT KERNEL:kernel 3.4.10 by SebastianFM
BOOTLOADER:unlocked
HBOOT VERSION:1.27.0000
RECOVERY:4EXT recovery touch v.1.0.0.6 RC1
S-ON
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tAheEr73 said:
thanks for ur reply ,
i have inserted plastic card behind battery for proper contact (adviced by many people at xda) but problem is not solved. my battary is 6 month old.
may be it is battery as i purchased from local market.
i have ordered new battery and soon will recive that . will let you know.
i have observed that mostly mobile got restart when i make/recieve calls and sms.
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This really sounds like your battery, especially if it's not the original or equivalent. But, it could also be an app on the background, keeping your phone from "deep sleep". Bad cell coverage (very low signal) also drains your battery relatively quickly when you're on 3G. A good WiFi connection consumes less power than 3G with bad signal. Another possibility could be (but unlikely) is that your phone is intended for another region and thus having trouble communicating with the GSM network.
- Check your battery.
- Check what your battery is used for.
- Check your battery time with network set to GSM only.
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rzr86 said:
"it is a htc's common issue after rooting"<- i said that
it was a source but i can't find it now
also i don't know if htc did something with unlocking the bootloader by purpose
if you flashed the rom recently don't judge the battery too early
give it 4-5 cyrcle charges until it settles down then see how it goes
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Still you keep saying "after rooting" which is significantly different from unlocking the bootloader and flashing. Furthermore, to me it seems far more people report "better battery life" with their new roms.
About initially flashing the rom: i thought format of system, data and cache (including dalvik cache) ought to be enough. It has had somewhere between the 10 and 20 charge cycles by now. Battery life improved a little, but it's still far from acceptable. The battery percentage between reboots should only differ marginally between reboots (might need a few minutes of usage to become accurate). Also notable: over 20% difference in percentage reading between rom and recovery.
I wouldn't mind investigating this. So I wonder if anyone with "proper" battery life could provide me a "dumpsys" for the battery service and would perhaps have the time to take a look at /proc with me.
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Still you keep saying "after rooting" which is significantly different from unlocking the bootloader and flashing. Furthermore, to me it seems far more people report "better battery life" with their new roms.
About initially flashing the rom: i thought format of system, data and cache (including dalvik cache) ought to be enough. It has had somewhere between the 10 and 20 charge cycles by now. Battery life improved a little, but it's still far from acceptable. The battery percentage between reboots should only differ marginally between reboots (might need a few minutes of usage to become accurate). Also notable: over 20% difference in percentage reading between rom and recovery.
I wouldn't mind investigating this. So I wonder if anyone with "proper" battery life could provide me a "dumpsys" for the battery service and would perhaps have the time to take a look at /proc with me.
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i unlocked the bootloader and root the device at the same period and i stayed for months with the stock rom
i don't know which one is responsible for percentage misreadings
also don't get confused
i am talking only for percentage misreadings and not for better battery life
and only when you charge the device.not unplugged
of course i had(and i still have) very good battery life with whatever rom i have flashed
by the way i have noticed the percentage difference between recovery and rom but i don't remember if it was 20%
rzr86 said:
i unlocked the bootloader and root the device at the same period and i stayed for months with the stock rom
i don't know which one is responsible for percentage misreadings
also don't get confused
i am talking only for percentage misreadings and not for better battery life
and only when you charge the device.not unplugged
of course i had(and i still have) very good battery life with whatever rom i have flashed
by the way i have noticed the percentage difference between recovery and rom but i don't remember if it was 20%
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Alright, thanks for clearing that up. I really want to solve this issue, so I'm quite keen on getting the facts straight.
Back to my issue then (yeah I'm effectively hijacking this thread): is it possible the percentage misreading is causing the battery not to fully charge and/or discharge? Or should I direct my search to another cause?
This is what I found (or did not find) so far:
- Stand-by time seems great, the drain occurs when the screen is on.
- There is nothing in the normal battery usage (usage goes to screen)
- I was unable to detect an obvious culprit with better battery stats.
- I did notice that when I do a dumpsys, service battery shows voltage in V, while my Sony shows it in mV.
- I tried offline charging for about an hour today (light still orange), after boot the battery indicator showed 100%. It dropped to 86% in 7 to 8 minutes.
emrvb said:
I tried offline charging for about an hour today (light still orange), after boot the battery indicator showed 100%. It dropped to 86% in 7 to 8 minutes.
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probably never truly reached the full charge(100%) when charged it in that one hour
by the way how old is your battery?
did you try with a new one?
rzr86 said:
since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
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please see attached screenshots
what do u think , is this battery or some hardware etc fault??
Hello community,
So, I've got myself a Nexus 5.
Problem (?):
When I'm charging my N5 and the battery indicator reaches 96%, the charging led goes green, indicating that it's fully charged. It doesn't STOP to charge at 96% like to prevent overcharging, it just shows green led at 96% and continues to charge to 100%. It thought the problem may be the stock kernel that comes with Cataclysm ROM, so I've flashed ElementalX kernel (Without wiping anything, do I have to wipe?) and the problem's still there.
Is that behavior normal?
Here are details about my phone:
Cataclysm ROM, 5.1.1 (Jun 20, 2015, stable build)
ElementalX Kernel, latest version for 5.1.1 (4.04)
I got my N5 one or two months ago, I rooted immediately but I believe it had this issue right out of the box. And I'm using the stock wall charger & usb cable which I received with my N5.
Thanks to anyone trying to help me.
Regards
I remember a Marques Brownlee Youtube video where he was talking about Li-On battery overcharging - they don't apparently, since there is circuitry in the battery to regulate the charging. From memory, he described it as a sort of "bounce" effect, where the charging gets close to 100%, cuts out, then says "Maybe a bit more" and starts again - and it may do that a number of times. So I reckon that this behaviour is what you're seeing, and you don't have any problem.
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I remember a Marques Brownlee Youtube video where he was talking about Li-On battery overcharging - they don't apparently, since there is circuitry in the battery to regulate the charging. From memory, he described it as a sort of "bounce" effect, where the charging gets close to 100%, cuts out, then says "Maybe a bit more" and starts again - and it may do that a number of times. So I reckon that this behaviour is what you're seeing, and you don't have any problem.
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Thank your for your reply
Now I know that everything's behaving normal. I almost thought that I have to replace the battery - and it's non removeable, so that would be a hard nut for me to crack, even with the right tools.
Last question, if I would replace my current N5 battery with another (original) battery, would the 'problem' vanish? Now I know, everything's OK.. but I'm a sorta perfectionist when it comes to devices. In other words, is that behavior related to the battery?
Here's the Marques Brownlee video I mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrcbcm11830
So the answer to your question is: no, a new battery will (most likely) make no difference at all - a lot of trouble, risk and expense for nothing. I leave my phone on a charging pad every night, on a timer switching off around 03:00, and it's usually around 95-97% in the morning. Like you, I'd much prefer 100%, but I've learned to live with it, especially as my Nexus 6 very rarely drops below 50% during the day - I'm a light user.
And a word of warning to anyone reading this. We tend to go looking for solutions to problems we've already suffered, when it can be too late. I managed a few months ago to drain my Nexus 5 battery down to zero, and when I recharged it the radio was stone dead - no SIM recognised, no data service (but wifi ok), no phone calls, no texts. There are many people reporting the same thing, so beware:
DON'T LET YOUR NEXUS 5 BATTERY DRAIN TO ZERO!!!
Unbenannt0412 said:
Now I know that everything's behaving normal. I almost thought that I have to replace the battery - and it's non removeable, so that would be a hard nut for me to crack, even with the right tools.
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There is no need for you to replace your battery - the percentage issue might be solved with a simple battery calibration.
But just to answer your question, the hardest part when replacing the battery is getting the old one out since it's glued in pretty hard.
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There is no need for you to replace your battery - the percentage issue might be solved with a simple battery calibration.
But just to answer your question, the hardest part when replacing the battery is getting the old one out since it's glued in pretty hard.
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Can you please forward me to some sort of instructions of how to calibrate properly? Can't find anything but the batterystats.bin hoax.
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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disccharge from 100% until your phone shuts down, then charge it to 100% while it is off
As far as I know, this issue is software side, not hardware. Have you ever encountered this problem before ? On my ROM (which is SAOSP), the LED started turning green at 95%. This could also mean that the green LED is set to appear at 95% - 96% charge.
F4uzan said:
As far as I know, this issue is software side, not hardware. Have you ever encountered this problem before ? On my ROM (which is SAOSP), the LED started turning green at 95%. This could also mean that the green LED is set to appear at 95% - 96% charge.
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Yes, I've thought about that too. The LED could be the problem. Is there some sort of workaround for this?
And no, I'm encountering this for the first time. I've rooted and flashed Cataclysm ROM right after I unpacked my N5, so I don't know if the problem was on stock too.
Unbenannt, I would say that you need to stop looking at this as a problem - it doesn't seem to be one. You'll spend a lot of time and energy on this (you already have...) and the concensus seems to be that it's not worth the trouble. If you run down your battery you risk bricking the radio (and I know that GtrCraft is saying only until the phone shuts down, not drained to zero) but really, why take the risk of damaging a beautiful device for such a minor reason?
Unbenannt0412 said:
When I'm charging my N5 and the battery indicator reaches 96%, the charging led goes green, indicating that it's fully charged.
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did you said charging LED ? wooh I've been using this device for 2-3 months and never seen LED blink when full charged !!
you are using any app or something for that ? bcz i'm on stock and i can't see any option to turn it on and No charging light for me at all !
does all people see it on stock ?!
jineshpatel30 said:
did you said charging LED ? wooh I've been using this device for 2-3 months and never seen LED blink when full charged !!
you are using any app or something for that ? bcz i'm on stock and i can't see any option to turn it on and No charging light for me at all !
does all people see it on stock ?!
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I'm running a custom ROM (Cataclysm), so that's probably why.
dahawthorne said:
Unbenannt, I would say that you need to stop looking at this as a problem - it doesn't seem to be one. You'll spend a lot of time and energy on this (you already have...) and the concensus seems to be that it's not worth the trouble. If you run down your battery you risk bricking the radio (and I know that GtrCraft is saying only until the phone shuts down, not drained to zero) but really, why take the risk of damaging a beautiful device for such a minor reason?
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Yeah, maybe you are right.
Unbenannt0412 said:
I'm running a custom ROM (Cataclysm), so that's probably why.
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Oh..i thought you were fully stock before flashing custom kernel.
Running kitkat, battery recently replaced. all good for a month.
Yesterday the phone suddenly switched off , i switched it on again and the battery had jumped down about 40%.
It crashed again but then remained stable for the rest of the day.
Tonight (at 50% battery remaining) i got a sudden warning "6% battery remaining" and it crashed again, i switched on again and the battery went back to normal , around 40%, stable since.
Any ideas or is the phone on the way out ?
Did you buy an official N5 battery? It looks like a faulty battery...
This is the one i ordered
https://www.replacebase.co.uk/lg-nexus-5-d820-replacement-battery-bl-t9-original-6818/
Phone seems ok today so far, would wiping the cache be worth a try ?
Thanks for the help.
michaelopolis said:
This is the one i ordered
https://www.replacebase.co.uk/lg-nexus-5-d820-replacement-battery-bl-t9-original-6818/
Phone seems ok today so far, would wiping the cache be worth a try ?
Thanks for the help.
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It can't do any harm but it won't help in this situation.
Try the following:
1. Let the battery go to 5% then charge your device to 100%
2. Disconnect the cable
3. Reconnect it and check if the battery level is at 100%. If not keep charging. If 100% disconnect and reboot. Then reconnect until 100%
These steps worked for some users (even if steps 1 & 2 should be enough IMHO).
Moreover you can try to remove apps or flash the factory images to check if the problem persists. If nothing works then your last attempt is to send it back to ReplaceBase.
thanks for taking the time to reply, will try your suggestions,
Just had another strange battery drain, captured it on this screenshot.
You can see battery just takes a sudden dive and recovers somewhat.
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=ftn99xdXJLEfZ80y35-hWA&ts=1442328244
michaelopolis said:
Just had another strange battery drain, captured it on this screenshot.
You can see battery just takes a sudden dive and recovers somewhat.
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=ftn99xdXJLEfZ80y35-hWA&ts=1442328244
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I have just read a nice thread about massive battery drain. Check this out.
His explanations fit with your battery stats.
Thanks for that, will have a browse, but would it explain my phone suddenly dying at 50% ?
michaelopolis said:
Thanks for that, will have a browse, but would it explain my phone suddenly dying at 50% ?
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I guess. Anyway you should follow the above steps and clean up your device by removing useless apps/features. Finally flashing factory images is sometimes a good thing to start from scratch.
Thanks again
I just tried your first suggestion, charged till 100% then disconnect, it immediately dropped to 99% so i recharged to 100%
Then disconnected and rebooted, weirdly when the phone rebooted it said the battery was now at 19% ,
Back on charge again.
Ugh.... Good luck but I would bet on a faulty battery. You'll probably have to send it back if you can use the warranty.
Did you have the same issue after receiving the new battery? Did you change several things of your setup (kernel, new apps...)?
Going from 100% to 19% can't be explained by the above thread. IMO no apps, no kernel, no software can explain this drop. Some folks say that it can also be caused by the motherboard...
Replacebase have promised to send me out a new battery , they too think its likely a dodgy battery, top customer service so far, hopefully it wont take too long to arrive.
I didnt change anything on my phone, perhaps updated some apps , its stock Kitkat,,, meanwhile Is there any way to check the health of the motherboard ? i don't like the sound of that.
michaelopolis said:
Replacebase have promised to send me out a new battery , they too think its likely a dodgy battery, top customer service so far, hopefully it wont take too long to arrive.
I didnt change anything on my phone, perhaps updated some apps , its stock Kitkat,,, meanwhile Is there any way to check the health of the motherboard ? i don't like the sound of that.
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Without profesionnal tools we can't check this AFAIK. Don't worry about the motherboard. It was only a suggestion reported by a few users. Chances are your problem will be solved after receiving the new battery.
ok thought as much, battery charged up to 100%, rebooted and now at 60%.
Ill put back in the old battery for now and see how it behaves. thanks for you help
So my sister upgraded her phone and gave me her old Galaxy S7. It has a problem, when left idle, it will drain its battery to 0%, essentially shutting itself down. But I tried watching a 50 minute video on it and it lost 20%. So theoretically, it should have about 4 hrs of video playback capacity.
So my question is, will replacing the battery solve this problem? Or could the problem be something else? Cause I really don't wanna go out and buy a new battery for this, without being certain first.
Thank you all for your responses!
paronda said:
So my sister upgraded her phone and gave me her old Galaxy S7. It has a problem, when left idle, it will drain its battery to 0%, essentially shutting itself down. But I tried watching a 50 minute video on it and it lost 20%. So theoretically, it should have about 4 hrs of video playback capacity.
So my question is, will replacing the battery solve this problem? Or could the problem be something else? Cause I really don't wanna go out and buy a new battery for this, without being certain first.
Thank you all for your responses!
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If the phone is working normally, the possible reason is battery or a bug in a management service of the battery. Make e full backup, do a factory reset and see again.
Alesyz said:
If the phone is working normally, the possible reason is battery or a bug in a management service of the battery. Make e full backup, do a factory reset and see again.
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My sister had this problem before she handed this phone to me. I reformatted it as soon as I got it.
So do you think that replacing the battery will really solve this?
paronda said:
My sister had this problem before she handed this phone to me. I reformatted it as soon as I got it.
So do you think that replacing the battery will really solve this?
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Turn Airplane mode on the phone and leave to for a couple of hours. Then check it again.