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Does ROOTING device will lose the official OTA´s ?
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Does ROOTING device will lose the official OTA´s ?
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Probably? on my Galaxy s2 I had a rooted phone with stock recovery that recieed OTA updates no problem.
My GS3 is stock rooted and did not recieve the OTA update even though my wifes fully stock one did.
So my recent experience is that rooting may affect your ability to recieve OTA updates
If you're on the correct stock rom with stock recovery (not CWM) then I think you will still get OTA updates. However after update I think you will loose root.
That's what ODIN's for, or Mobile ODIN as the case may be....
Yep that's how I did it Odin. I prefer to do it that way anyway. Download it once and then updated both of the families s3 in about 20 min total.
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If the skyrocket is rooted can you still get ota updates? If so How? I am new to this. And also what is the current OTA update?
If its just rooted yes and it'll remove your root if you are on a custom ROM then it'll tell you you have one but it wont download
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If your phone is rooted when an OTA update is released, you won't be able to download it. Unfortunately one have to be on stock to be able to download it, with bloat included and everything.
It told me I had a update but said server was down then I went back to it today and it says my phone is up to date
From what I understand if you are rooted with stock recovery you can take the ota update. If you are rooted with cwm recovery than you cannot take the ota. The beautiful thing I think is than even if you are rooted with cwm, and an ota releases (that you for some wild reason can't wait to have) its easy as pie to flash back to stock. At that point you should be able to take the ota. Heck maybe even just flashing the stock recovery itself would do the trick.....I dunno
As for current ota, most of us seem to have gotten stuck with 2.3.5. But there were quite a few folks who received the 2.3.6 update.
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cdshepherd is correct. I was on stock 2.3.5 with stock 3e recovery... and was fully rooted. I was able to take the ATT OTA 2.3.6 update and kept superuser root access.
DoctorQMM said:
cdshepherd is correct. I was on stock 2.3.5 with stock 3e recovery... and was fully rooted. I was able to take the ATT OTA 2.3.6 update and kept superuser root access.
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+1. I got 2.3.6 and kept root access, too. I'm also on stock recovery.
If you are not SO interrested in OTA
cdshepherd is correct, but, when 2.3.6 came out a few weeks ago, several folks were able to get it posted somewhere as a RAR file. you might look around if you are just dying to have it.. I think it was back around 11/21/2011 when I saw it the first time. About 290mb if I recall correctly.
Good luck!
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I was rooted and still allowed the OTA update 2.3.6.. and still have root access
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Ok people heres the deal. To take an ota update you can be rooted but . You need to have stock recovery, and all bloatware intact. It can be frozen but not deleted. And no one knows yet if the 4.0 ota will remove root. 2.3.6 ota did not. So we can hope.
Hi everyone,
I just flashed the JellyBean leaked TEST OTA India to my P3100 from SamMobile. Is my warranty void now? If yes, will I be able to get it back? Will I receive any further updates from Samsung? How will I get the official version of JB? I am really very confused. Also, my Tab isn't connecting through Kies. And what about the Flash Counter?
Please help.
Thanks a lot.
aqshyt said:
Hi everyone,
I just flashed the JellyBean leaked TEST OTA India to my P3100 from SamMobile. Is my warranty void now? If yes, will I be able to get it back? Will I receive any further updates from Samsung? How will I get the official version of JB? I am really very confused. Also, my Tab isn't connecting through Kies. And what about the Flash Counter?
Please help.
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, technically your warranty is void, and no you can't get it back. I say technically because I've seen manufacturers turn a blind eye to some things (I once sent an obviously rooted phone in without question). You won't receive further updates, because they are unlikely to make patches for a leak that isn't supposed to be public. You'll either get official JB by flashing back the latest stock firmware, or by flashing the stock OTA when its available for download.
Next time I would suggest you research these questions before flashing leaked builds.
Warranty is not void.You can reset the flash counter using triangle away. You can Odin back to any version you want to in order to take OTAs. Though if your going to root and use a custom recovery its best to wait for someone to make it custom recovery rdy rather then reverting to stock for a ota your going to root anyways. Most times hours after a ota there is a rooted flashable version posted. Should be careful flashing any leaked software least they find a way to patch our current root methods.
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Should be careful flashing any leaked software least they find a way to patch our current root methods.
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The only way to do that would be to lock the bootloader, and Verizon Wireless is the only one having that done these days. Even HTC and Motorola's locked devices can be unlocked if you want now.
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Warranty is not void.You can reset the flash counter using triangle away. You can Odin back to any version you want to in order to take OTAs. Though if your going to root and use a custom recovery its best to wait for someone to make it custom recovery rdy rather then reverting to stock for a ota your going to root anyways. Most times hours after a ota there is a rooted flashable version posted. Should be careful flashing any leaked software least they find a way to patch our current root methods.
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Thanks a lot RomsWell for your reply. Am happy that I can get back my warranty and make my Tab 2 just as I got from the store I hope the Samsung people will never come to know what I did?
i updated my verizon Galaxy S3 (I535) today, and forgot to unroot it so expectedly i go the "unsuccessful" update, but it did update, i have the changes. but i cannot get into supersu so i cannot unroot my phone (never really used the rooting anyways)
is there anyway to unroot my phone atm? and/or to make sure i have the entire update?
(wasnt really expecting to get the update at all with a rooted phone)
also i cannot get into supersu cause my phone is still recongnized as 4.3 instead of 4.1.2
...not really sure what to do
Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
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Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
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ok thanks,
ill keep watch, i mean everything seems fine on my phone its just the "unsucessful update" is a bit foreboding given that i obviously have the update o.o
no way to downgrade either atm i take it?
if i could down grade i could unroot easily and then update
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ok thanks,
ill keep watch, i mean everything seems fine on my phone its just the "unsucessful update" is a bit foreboding given that i obviously have the update o.o
no way to downgrade either atm i take it?
if i could down grade i could unroot easily and then update
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Nah, you'll have a hardbricked phone with seemingly no way to fix it if you attempt to downgrade. If/when VRUCML1 stock tar file is posted then you could flash that in Odin. What you'll need is something specifically for TW 4.3 whether that's root, root/unlock, or Odin. Nothing older is compatible.
KabuTheFox said:
i updated my verizon Galaxy S3 (I535) today, and forgot to unroot it so expectedly i go the "unsuccessful" update, but it did update, i have the changes. but i cannot get into supersu so i cannot unroot my phone (never really used the rooting anyways)
is there anyway to unroot my phone atm? and/or to make sure i have the entire update?
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I believe that by going to the OTA 4.3, you are no longer rooted. The update "unrooted" you.
Thanks Slim !!
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Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
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SafeRoot was a success and I now have a rooted device. I just purchased this used and it did an automatic update when i turned it on. Pretty bummed about now being able to switch out the ROM, but at least I've got root now! saferoot is awesome!
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I believe that by going to the OTA 4.3, you are no longer rooted. The update "unrooted" you.
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the update database doesnt recongize my phone tho, and thats why it couldnt complete the update.
but according to my phone im still on 4.3 technically
it has been some time, there might already be something out for all i know by now
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted and froze SDM 1.0 with titanium backup to avoid the constant update reminders.
I am now curious can I accept the updates and keep root somehow?
Is something like OTA root keeper worthwhile?
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Ya you need 4.3.
So you have options, since you're have a galaxy gear you're probably going to be running stock TouchWiz, so I would just take the upgrade.
You can root later, but the gear would never work with aosp anyway. Safestrap can make your phone run pretty well with a TouchWiz custom rom if you eventually decide you want one.
Or you can load a custom TouchWiz 4.3 rom right now and see if it connects, then you wouldn't lock your phone down permanently.
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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
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OK then read the sticky threads in the development section, everything there has guides available for rooting and installing roms, then ask more questions if you have them.
Make sure you're reading the older sticky thread, not the 4.3 one.
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I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
You would probably need to unfreeze everything for the update to work, at least thats what I have heard.
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scottfarcuz said:
I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
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Use this thread to Odin flash 4.3. It's the exact same as taking the Ota.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
I'm sure you already know what taking the update entails, just be absolutely sure it's what you want to do before you flash it. There's no going back.
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I was wondering if anyone found a way to take ota after rooting. I have always had rooted devices and always ended up on custom roms. For now I would like to stay on the official rom and debloat a bit. Any ideas?
Pretty sure you can just flash back to stock and take ota, then re root. You normally need stock recovery to take ota, and be unrooted
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I can't believe i didnt think of that after I did the same thing with the S4. Thx for shining some light into my clouded mind lol
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I tried this and update still wouldn't let me download the OTA.
Unless someone comes out with a way to revert the knox flag (which is said to be a perm flag) it won't ever be possible to be true factory again as all OTA's will now check for the tamper.
I think someone mentioned though you can manually install it, just the downloader/OTA wouldn't work.
If manually still wasn't possible I'm sure someone could remove the check from the update and you still get it that way but officially through Samsung you currently are probably stuck.
Ideally someone finds a way to reset the so called, perma flag.
If not the alternative might be finding a way to root the phone without flagging it, but in those cases it won't help those already flagged.
I know on HTC they had a similar type of flag, though didn't use it to check for update status. They flagged as Tampered or Re-locked for example.
However after some time we found how to reset those in some magical hidden area to blind write too (not talking about those that cheated to hide it via bootloader image edits)
At this point it's a wait and see game...
I hope someone finds fast though, I am stock and really want to get this bloat off my phone lol
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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roadrunnrr said:
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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When I tried this the update check still failed stating that I had a custom ROM.
Just checked for updates and it went through
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Just checked for updates and it went through
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Were you rooted then un-rooted?? Can you post the OTA file from your cache??
Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it. Let me know where I can find the OTA and I'll post it. But I'm unrooted now so I don't know if it will work
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Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it.
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Nice, Otherwise seems like a bad strategy on Samsung's part if they don't allow people who unroot and odin back to stock to take OTA's.. Why would a manufacture not want to offer a path back to stock for security updates and the chance to get a user back on a bloated rom full of there paid ad apps. Each time users do this there is a small percentage that won't either be able to re-root due to updates stopping the root method or just out of hassle. I understand the warranty flag but not why you wouldn't offer a path back to stock unless they are just being short sighted in an attempt to penalize people who root which won't have much effect..
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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So root!!
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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I can't seem to do it. Once I rooted and tripped the Knox flag bit the Update check won't let me download. But the error message says that I can still download and install updates using Kies.
I just fixed it. The problem is not the Knox flag but rather the fact that Custom was showing in Download mode instead of Official. I had to flash twice without my SDcard inserted to get to Official. Once I got to Official the update started to download.
rooted?
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Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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Patience.. I guess..
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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I gotta agree.. Most of my previous device OTA's were always dumped within hours of release really surprised this hasn't been yet. This is my first Samsung phone and I have liked the device but kinda disappointed in the XDA turnout so far. I am always appreciative of those who are here but I just thought with how popular the Galaxy line was there would be more dev support from day 1 but there hasn't been much so far. I know it's early and being CDMA/Sprint really limits us but seems like all my previous HTC devices on Sprint and the current M8 are getting way more action.. Oh well, but sure makes a jump to T-Mobile for the new Oneplus One Cyanogen phone sound tempting haha..
And thanks again to all those who are here and contributing!!!