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I have been a big fan of android since the pre cupcake days and have really enjoyed watching android grow becoming bigger and better all the time.
Its almost contract renewal time and im unsure what to do. the obvious choice would be the desire, but its lack of physical keyboard and complicated way to gain root are bad points. the other choice would be the nokia n900 running maemo 5. it has a physical keyboard and is very easy to gain root access.
So im stuck and thought i would ask the community to share their thoughts on both devices and systems to create a list of pros and cons.
Any comments you wish to share would be great. Thanks
hi, my friend has an n900 and to be honest as much as I hate Nokia that piece of hardware is solid. resistive touchsceeen is very responsive to touch. it really feels as capacitive plus you get the accuracy of the stylus. and obviously the hard keyboard.
but, talking about maemo... its ugly. I felt it wasn't finished and thought through. as a sense UI user I felt it was a tipical bold and ugly Nokia UI. I'd compare it as XP to Windows7.
on the other hand the guy is a programmer and the things he showed me he programmed for his Nokia were impressive. full Linux.
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I understand what you mean about meamo seeming appearing unfinished. maybe it will grow as android has? but it doesnt have the popularity so perhaps its worth sticking with android. i dont know lol.
pros for maemo so far are; that root is simple, theme installation is easy, backups without entering recovery mode. hacking and programming appears to be closer to debian. (to be honest that doesnt effect me as im not a programmer but its obviously going to be usefull to alot of people)
cons; nokia , not android, confusing ui, ovi store has lack of good apps, no xda support.
I have no clue about Nokia but I know there's no big developer support. if Desire is too complicated to root, why don't you consider Nexus one? Besides that it's also the phone that will receive new OS updates FIRST.... see upcoming Android 2.2 - and if you want a QWERTY then wait for Nexus two. And there's also the QWERTY phone from Motorola (which btw are also doing the N2)
****! I can't believe I'm recommending Android devices. But I'm innocent... Microsoft made me do it!
Well having them both for a couple of days I've kept the Desire. I have it for almost a month and I still can't stop playing with it. It's so polished and so fast. The single best cellphone I've ever used. N900 has it's own advantages, but it's too unpolished and doesn't have enough developer support to be my primary phone. It's good as a secondary phone for experimenting, but as a main phone the desire is the one to beat.
And it took me 15-20 mins to root the desire and it is my first root. So not that complicated. Top tip: use paul's r3 root method (using a tinycore linux live cd) for minimal problems. Windows only method can be a little jerky from user to user.
I'd wait for a nice android phone with qwerty. infact that's exactly what I'm doing while having fun with Hero. )
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I have no clue about Nokia but I know there's no big developer support. if Desire is too complicated to root, why don't you consider Nexus one? Besides that it's also the phone that will receive new OS updates FIRST.... see upcoming Android 2.2 - and if you want a QWERTY then wait for Nexus two. And there's also the QWERTY phone from Motorola (which btw are also doing the N2)
****! I can't believe I'm recommending Android devices. But I'm innocent... Microsoft made me do it!
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lol i would like to have the nexus one. but im in the uk so no nexus without paying alot for it. which is a damn shame. also no moto droid over here. will look into the nexus two though thanks for the tip
Well having them both for a couple of days I've kept the Desire. I have it for almost a month and I still can't stop playing with it. It's so polished and so fast. The single best cellphone I've ever used. N900 has it's own advantages, but it's too unpolished and doesn't have enough developer support to be my primary phone. It's good as a secondary phone for experimenting, but as a main phone the desire is the one to beat.
And it took me 15-20 mins to root the desire and it is my first root. So not that complicated. Top tip: use paul's r3 root method (using a tinycore linux live cd) for minimal problems. Windows only method can be a little jerky from user to user.
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i like the sound of this. i seem to be very mistaken about the desire being hard to root.
As the N900 was compared to a mobile computer by Nokia themselves i think it's self explanatory. You can't compare these two Operating Systems as Maemo focuses on open-ness and easyness to port stuff that's based on Qt for example. (I guess that's the reason why they chose to use resistive TS, easier to use desktop-like apps)
Android on the other hand, focuses on making use easier for the end-user, open-ness is just a nice side feature of it, but Apps should be based on the APIs google provides, however you are allowed to do anything with them
I also have a Desire and im finding it to be a really nice phone, there are a few niggles but most things can be sorted with an application or a bit of searching. It's better now i have rooted it as all my applications are now stored on my SD card instead of on the limited memory. I found the guide from Nimbu to be a very easy and quick guide to follow. You should be able to find it on google since i cant post the link from being a new user
will have a look for that guide when i have some spare time. thanks
bruce_wayne said:
I have been a big fan of android since the pre cupcake days and have really enjoyed watching android grow becoming bigger and better all the time.
Its almost contract renewal time and im unsure what to do. the obvious choice would be the desire, but its lack of physical keyboard and complicated way to gain root are bad points. the other choice would be the nokia n900 running maemo 5. it has a physical keyboard and is very easy to gain root access.
So im stuck and thought i would ask the community to share their thoughts on both devices and systems to create a list of pros and cons.
Any comments you wish to share would be great. Thanks
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I had an N900 for about 4 weeks before the Nexus One was released. I really loved that device. Like others are saying, it feels solid. Screen is beautiful, and who can complain about 32 gigs built in, with another 8+ on the miniSD. Browsing = Awesome with full flash support. Stereo speakers sound great. QWERTY keyboard is a little bit of a bummer cause the top row is so close to the case. And the earbuds sound FANTASTIC! Better then some I've purchased from electronics stores.
Here's the real bummer. Nokia didn't capitalize on the N900 as much as they could have. Their shipping and support from NokiaUSA was abysmal. (I ordered when the site said 'IN STOCK' and after 3 weeks I cancelled the order and purchased one via eBay).
I wish I could say I was pleased with Maemo 5. The N900 comes with a few good apps, and more can be found through the Ovi store (when it was working).
I'd say stick with Android for this simple reason. It seems Nokia is letting the N900 die on the vine and has left everything about the device up to the Maemo community. They've even made statements regarding coming out with other smart mobile devices (Nokia N8) and is putting effort into a new version of Symbian.
If you are a Linux dev and would like to have fun coding for your own device, you can't ask for a better smartphone.
If you enjoy the Android platform, the variety of apps available in the market, and love the XDA forums then you'll be happier with an Android device.
I've stopped looking at non HTC devices for the sole reason of xda forums.
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bruce_wayne said:
Its almost contract renewal time and im unsure what to do. the obvious choice would be the desire, but its lack of physical keyboard and complicated way to gain root are bad points.
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In the last release, r4 rooting is very very easy.
I've stopped looking at non HTC devices for the sole reason of xda forums.
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i really dont blame you. theres alot of help in the xda forums
Maemo minus intel's x86 = the suck
with x86 and you could run linux programs and windows programs with wine. It would however be alot less phone like than Android.
Android is already growing fast every month. Problem is the Java layer and compiling for Arm.
Maemo's only real hope is x86 for phone. If that happens however I'd get it in a heart beat. Old games like Baldur's gate would be easy enough for anyone to get working. Otherwise it's just a me too operating system. Like BEOS.
Maemo minus intel's x86 = the suck
with x86 and you could run linux programs and windows programs with wine. It would however be alot less phone like than Android.
Android is already growing fast every month. Problem is the Java layer and compiling for Arm.
Maemo's only real hope is x86 for phone. If that happens however I'd get it in a heart beat. Old games like Baldur's gate would be easy enough for anyone to get working. Otherwise it's just a me too operating system. Like BEOS.
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It has a few ports of old games running well now. Transposrt tycoon runs well on the n900.
Just don't know if I can leave android. There's so much developer support that android constantly evolves. I love it
From what I have seen, Meamo doesn't seem to change. And app development appears to be very slow. On the ovi store, and other sources, new apps or updates don't often arrive.
Maemo
From comparisons and ability to customize things on the phone Maemo seems to be the best. I own an Omnia SCH-i910 with WM6 but am keeping an eye on Maemo OS phones hoping they take off.
What I want most from my phone besides features is open source program compatibility and ability to customize interface, ICS, and data access.
I have used the N900 for a while and just recently picked up the Vibrant (Galaxy S). There are many features I miss from the N900/Maemo. A huge one is universal, standard commands such as ctrl+c,x,v, etc. It was so easy to select text with the stylus then manipulate with keyboard shortcuts. Copying and pasting text on the Vibrant has been a bad experience in comparison.
Another major thing that the Maemo OS does better IMO is multitasking. It has true multitasking, and switching between and closing applications is intuitive and very well implemented. However, the way Android does things probably helps battery life, and after getting used to it I have no complaints.
For me, Android is an overall better choice due to its practicality for every day use. What I like more about the N900/Maemo is its multitasking and that it is literally a mini linux PC, yielding much more control and functionality for power users.
dvdivx said:
Maemo minus intel's x86 = the suck
with x86 and you could run linux programs and windows programs with wine. It would however be alot less phone like than Android.
Android is already growing fast every month. Problem is the Java layer and compiling for Arm.
Maemo's only real hope is x86 for phone. If that happens however I'd get it in a heart beat. Old games like Baldur's gate would be easy enough for anyone to get working. Otherwise it's just a me too operating system. Like BEOS.
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Anyone can easily install "Easy Debian" from the maemo.org repository, granting access to many repositories containing countless Debian packages. Once installed, they be launched from within Maemo or an LXDE that runs as an application within Maemo, therefore allowing simultaneous phone functionality. So in my opinion wine isn't that important for the n900, unless there is something you absolutely need that won't run on ARM based architecture...
bruce_wayne...someone said ""The grass is green ot the other side".
I have N900 and Samsung Galaxy S.
Android and N900-Maemo5 have advantages and disatvantages. The right choise depend ot what you need from device.
I am user that don't have ability to make program, but I like to install and use.
For me phone must be like mini computer but still lightweight.
For me the necessary thing is:
Good phone with video player capable to play Standart Definition video and play internet stream(HTTP).TV-out is welcome
Software that I need is: Skype, ICQ and VNC client.
N900 disatvantages for me and my kind of work.
Weight!!!. Maemo5. Poor battery life-especially in 3G mode.
But.....N900 have nice contacts menager with Skype and ICQ accaunts.
Skype Video conversation. Diferent video player and codec pluging
In Galaxy S. Nimbuzz ( or other program) substitute N900 integrated chat client. Program WYSE is good VNC client.
The only thing that missing is video Player with HTTP capabilities. I really want to watch my VLC stream.
So....everything depend of what do you want from phone.
If you have question about N900. Just Ask..I'm not Maemo5(N900) fanboy neither Android(Galaxy S)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/21/microsoft-to-announce-arm-based-windows-at-ces/
This is good news for all who want alternative os. i love android personally but there are still some things that can only be done in good ol M$ sorry to say.
Ha! I totally called this the other day. An ARM-based windows would be amazing, but it looks like it won't be here for another 2 years. I probably won't even own a g tablet at that time, but this is good news nonetheless.
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YES!
I can now have the famous "Blue Screen of Death" on my tablet.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/21/microsoft-to-announce-arm-based-windows-at-ces/
This is good news for all who want alternative os. i love android personally but there are still some things that can only be done in good ol M$ sorry to say.
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Sounds like this is aimed squarely at Cortex-A15 due out shortly and targetted at servers. M$ is running scared, crapping their britches as they had dropped support for everything but x86 which would have meant big business for linux and other OSes with broader CPU support...
(Back in the day, M$ used to support PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, etc. but nobody running anything halfway powerful ruined it by running Windows NT on it... so since nobody bought it, M$ dropped support...)
As to things you can "only do" in Windows: That's unlikely as what you probably want to do will only be available in x86 compatible binary form...
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I can now have the famous "Blue Screen of Death" on my tablet.
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Lets be fair here. Force closes on android might as well be a blue screen. And most of us still report issues with having to power cycle the Gtab daily to prevent excessive slowdown. Not that apple is no picnic either. I was plagued by crashing apps constantly on my ipod touch when I had it.
I can definitely see windows being useful to use REAL MS office for documents as well as a whole pile of other "apps" that are just stripped down versions of the desktop version with bugginess to show it. Plus, Microsoft's development model is designed around making windows work(or 'work' if you prefer ) on any piece of hardware you through at it that belongs to a supported chipset family. This SHOULD mean much simpler out of the box installs for people adding windows to their tab on their own accord.
Sure, it's not going to be a solution for EVERYONE, but there is definitely good reason to release it.
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Lets be fair here. Force closes on android might as well be a blue screen. And most of us still report issues with having to power cycle the Gtab daily to prevent excessive slowdown. Not that apple is no picnic either. I was plagued by crashing apps constantly on my ipod touch when I had it.
I can definitely see windows being useful to use REAL MS office for documents as well as a whole pile of other "apps" that are just stripped down versions of the desktop version with bugginess to show it. Plus, Microsoft's development model is designed around making windows work(or 'work' if you prefer ) on any piece of hardware you through at it that belongs to a supported chipset family. This SHOULD mean much simpler out of the box installs for people adding windows to their tab on their own accord.
Sure, it's not going to be a solution for EVERYONE, but there is definitely good reason to release it.
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FCs are NOWHERE near as bad as BSODs... and they're pretty uncommon in a well built Android implementation...
As to apps, I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as I mentioned above this is likely aimed at servers which don't need "Office", and even IF it does show you can bet that there are going to be TONs of apps that just never get ARM versions. I expect this to end up like M$' last experiement in non-x86 arch, i.e. a dismal failure.
M$ is just grasping at straws now as it slowly withers away.
First off, let me say I love AOSP. I also used Mac's exclusively from 1984 to 1991. I'm no fan of apple's closed ecosystem, however. Although I primarily use Windows-based systems, I always maintain a dual-boot with Linux.
I think Microsoft gets bashed way too much these days. The BSOD reference, although funny, isn't really fair. Win7 is a solid operating system and their Mobile7 OS looks very good too.
What really attracts me to AOSP is nearly identical to what got me to switch from apple to PCs (i.e. Microsoft OS) back in 1991--the inherent flexibility of the OS. No doubt Microsoft is in a tough position these days, but I just hate to see them get bashed unfairly--they've done a LOT of stuff right, and continue to do innovative stuff (Kinect, Mobile7).
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First off, let me say I love AOSP. I also used Mac's exclusively from 1984 to 1991. I'm no fan of apple's closed ecosystem, however. Although I primarily use Windows-based systems, I always maintain a dual-boot with Linux.
I think Microsoft gets bashed way too much these days. The BSOD reference, although funny, isn't really fair. Win7 is a solid operating system and their Mobile7 OS looks very good too.
What really attracts me to AOSP is nearly identical to what got me to switch from apple to PCs (i.e. Microsoft OS) back in 1991--the inherent flexibility of the OS. No doubt Microsoft is in a tough position these days, but I just hate to see them get bashed unfairly--they've done a LOT of stuff right, and continue to do innovative stuff (Kinect, Mobile7).
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M$ is getting what they deserve.
I'll admit that Windows 7 is much better than Vista, but my only use for Windows is for games that won't run under wine.
BSOD: Android equivalent would actually be a kernel panic...
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FCs are NOWHERE near as bad as BSODs... and they're pretty uncommon in a well built Android implementation...
As to apps, I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as I mentioned above this is likely aimed at servers which don't need "Office", and even IF it does show you can bet that there are going to be TONs of apps that just never get ARM versions. I expect this to end up like M$' last experiement in non-x86 arch, i.e. a dismal failure.
M$ is just grasping at straws now as it slowly withers away.
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Quite frankly, BSOD is often just as bad as a FC for me. For me at least, when something force closes the whole system is starting to act slow and choppy. I end up having to reboot anyway.
I find many user experience to be subjective as far as BSOD goes anyway. Honestly, I can count on two hands the number of times I have had a BSOD since I stopped running win98(with the exception being when I had bad ram). Half of these were do to me testing win7& vista release candidates. The rest were due to my own errors with raid drivers.
I'm curious to see what happens with this initiative though. It is difficult to imagine where exactly they will draw the line between Windows Mobile and windows "lite" or whatever they call the new version. I wouldn't be surprised if they get in over their heads and change their development path to the likes of apple/android and expand the mobile platform to these "light" computer architectures.
At the end of the day, I dont think I want a tablet that needs a virus scanner
Ok, basically my wife is looking into a new phone and our options are more or less limitless, she just wants advantages and disadvantages of each OS. She's not picky and doesn't always need the most popular OS, she wants form, factor, and function. I am looking for a phone that will take a sim so trying to avoid Verizon and Sprint phones. Heres my opinions on the ones I can think up.
iOS-I wouldnt touch it with a ten foot pole personally but regardless of my personal feelings if it's jailbroken it's not actually a terrible OS just a bit bland. The hardware limitations and the fact that they're still building the same updates for the 2g that they are for the 4g causes some immense limitations and I cant think of an update that made a real difference.
Android- Good but often laggy even with a snapdragon. The UI customization is nice but they're killing themselves not allowing a GPU accelerated UI. I have a Dell Streak for my "fun phone" and though I love it it does seem more appealing to have a phone that "just works" for her. I dont think android will be quite as long-lived though its doing well so far. How can one expect a UI to have devoted developers when you can get anything you want free.
Windows phone 7- Perfect business device, still in what seems almost an open beta phase and lacking a lot of basic features. More promise than any other OS but for the time being it's not living up to the hype.
BadaOS-Support? What support? plays out like a bad WebOS ripoff
Blackberry-Just the most boring thing in the world. Aside from battery life I cannot seem to realize how this OS sells well outside of the old people who dont really know how to use a phone but want something high end...
WebOS- It had it's day in the spotlight and that didn't last too long... I mean its functional but feels almost dirty compared to the more modern OSes
WM6.5- Great OS for someone who wants to devote hours and hours and hours to customizing it to be the most functional OS. Sadly the only device worth having thats wm6.5 anymore is the LEO/HD2.
These are all opinions of mine, she just wants to know the opinion of others. Thanks for your input.
What is her level of technical expertise?
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Moderate, a gaming device would be great but something with a pleasant UI is more appealing
If you don't mind about the limited hardware choice then iOS is very good, especially for newcomers. It'll probably make your life easier (less questions to answer).
Android is a different matter. The experience depends highly on what manufacturer you go for, but if you choose well then you get one of the best (functionality-wise) smartphone OSes out there together with a wide choice of hardware.
Personally I'd suggest the Nexus S (if you can cope with 16GB storage), or failing that the Galaxy S. Both are lovely devices, but the Nexus edges it with it's lovely display, GPU accelerated transitions (Android finally somewhat smooth) and Gingerbread.
Windows Phone 7? If you're a big business and/or Office user, then it's probably the easiest OS to get working with. It has good video/gaming capabilities and a GPU accelerated UI but currently suffers from limited storage space on most devices.
Choose if you love the UI or are a OneNote addict, otherwise I'd stick to the safer bet of Android/iOS for the time-being and wait for things to play out. You probably wouldn't buy a device running iOS 1 or Android 1.5 today, so I'd wait for Windows 7 to catch-up. It is good. It will be great, just in a little while.
That said you should have no problem editing/viewing Office docs or accessing Exchange email on either Android or iOS.
BlackBerry OS - used to be the pinnacle of a smartphone OS, but a lack of innovation and poor hardware has choked the platform, and RIM have said that in the future top-end BlackBerry devices will run the QNX OS they are running on the PlayBook.
WebOS - very good, but still failed to catch up fully with iOS/Android even with the recent update. That said, I think someone has to try a WebOS first - some people love it, some hate it. Limited range of apps.
WinMo 6.5 - Do not buy anymore, unless your business requires it.
Bada OS - Just no. No developers. No apps. No fantastic devices.
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If you don't mind about the limited hardware choice then iOS is very good, especially for newcomers. It'll probably make your life easier (less questions to answer).
Android is a different matter. The experience depends highly on what manufacturer you go for, but if you choose well then you get one of the best (functionality-wise) smartphone OSes out there together with a wide choice of hardware.
Personally I'd suggest the Nexus S (if you can cope with 16GB storage), or failing that the Galaxy S. Both are lovely devices, but the Nexus edges it with it's lovely display, GPU accelerated transitions (Android finally somewhat smooth) and Gingerbread.
Windows Phone 7? If you're a big business and/or Office user, then it's probably the easiest OS to get working with. It has good video/gaming capabilities and a GPU accelerated UI but currently suffers from limited storage space on most devices.
Choose if you love the UI or are a OneNote addict, otherwise I'd stick to the safer bet of Android/iOS for the time-being and wait for things to play out. You probably wouldn't buy a device running iOS 1 or Android 1.5 today, so I'd wait for Windows 7 to catch-up. It is good. It will be great, just in a little while.
That said you should have no problem editing/viewing Office docs or accessing Exchange email on either Android or iOS.
BlackBerry OS - used to be the pinnacle of a smartphone OS, but a lack of innovation and poor hardware has choked the platform, and RIM have said that in the future top-end BlackBerry devices will run the QNX OS they are running on the PlayBook.
WebOS - very good, but still failed to catch up fully with iOS/Android even with the recent update. That said, I think someone has to try a WebOS first - some people love it, some hate it. Limited range of apps.
WinMo 6.5 - Do not buy anymore, unless your business requires it.
Bada OS - Just no. No developers. No apps. No fantastic devices.
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I thank you for your reply my wife still wants WP7 but I keep trying to tell her that even though I use it it could take time to work the kinks out. She is considering android but samsung devices are hard to go with especially the galaxy S devices due to the buffer overrun issues. I think we've more or less narrowed it down to those two its just hard to pick which though she is in love with the netflix integration. I think its between the mytouch 4g and the samsung focus
The MT4G is a fantastic device. I'm sure she'd have more fun with it than WP7 and its limited options.
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Now when you say limited options what do you mean? I only ask because I recently converted to windows phone 7 after tinkering with android for 2 years and never once having something that felt 'complete.' Also is there any site that I can make one of those phone histories on or do I have to use paint?
WM: The most tested OS good and stable for business, thousands of apps, tweaks, themes, etc a lot of knowledge.
Android: Nice to play with as all is new and free but I got easily bored
WP7: So new, needs more time to get mature. Too closed similar to apple
The hardware limitations and the fact that they're still building the same updates for the 2g that they are for the 4g causes some immense limitations and I cant think of an update that made a real difference.
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No they aren't. The 2g is stuck on Ios 3.2, while the Iphone 4 is on 4.2. Plus the hardware in the Iphone 4 is just about as fast as Snapdragon, and cortex. Hell, the A4 is a Cortex A8.
Android- I like Android a lot, but some of the manufactures don't take it as seriously as I like, and some manufactures are terrible with updates.(Samsung) And the UI isn't hardware accelerated AFAIK. But very easy to customize, I like that. Manufactures can make Android great, or bad.(Motorola, I'm talking to you with your Motoblur crap)
Ios- I like Ios too, but there are a few issues with it. AT&T is the big one, and the second issue because of that is limited data. I can't say that it's a bad thing that to make it useful to my standards, you have to jailbreak it because every Android phone I've had I've rooted for it to work great. I wish Apple would come out with an Iphone with a screen bigger than 3.7inch. And I wish Steve would not have so much hatred towards Adobe, because that means no real flash for Iphone while it's fully capable of it. Frash is okay for the Iphone, but real flash would be better.
BB Os- I'll tell you the same thing I tell people I sell these to. Blackberry is a business phone, so don't expect the fun and colorful UI you see in other OSes. It is very simple to use though, but RIM is stuck on hardware that was released almost 2 years ago. The Pre is originally clocked at 600 mhz like the Droid, the chip inside the Torch which is the newest Blackberry is only at 624 mhz, like the Storm, the Storm 2, the Bold, etc etc. Also, Blackberry does not like to update their phones to the current OS, despite most of the phones having the same specs. It is what it is.
Windows Mobile 6.5- Not bad, but not great. A nice business OS though.
Windows Phone 7- I like it a lot, but no flash support right now is a killer. I don't mind it not having things like bluetooth transfer since I really don't use it, but I would like copy and paste. Also they need to hurry up and expand to different carriers! D:
Symbian- Personally I never used it, but people say it is very versatile.
Webos- I like Webos a lot, I really do. But there simply isn't enough support behind it from developers, which means a huge lack of apps compared to Android and Ios. The big thing that kills me about it, is the fact that the Pre only has a 3inch screen, even the Pre 2 has a 3inch screen despite having specs that can be compared to the Droid 2!
Bada- Samsung, so I can't expect too much from it. I haven't tried it though, and I really don't want to.
What kind of user is your wife? If she wants a phone that does games, txt, email etc... then you have to take into consideration what is the best at these?
IOS even with it's limitations is probably the most "polished" out there. Has a huge base of followers, tons of apps, and it does work out of the box. Sure it's bland in its interface and your locked in with AT&T and the iWorld of Apple. Not to mention that you can't do anything with the hardware itself.
Android: Catching up to Apple - but still not the "iPhone killer" - yet. I personally love Android - and with enough tweaking I don't experience lag on my Captivate. But.. I would highly suggest NOT getting a Galaxy S phone. Too many issues with the devices to merit getting. I would go with an HTC.
Win Mobile 7: Although this looks promising.. if I wanted a boring interface and all the junk that goes with the OS? I'd have an iPhone. And not to mention it's still in its infancy - so who knows if it will go the way of the Do Do bird?
Should also mention about Android, if she gets an Android phone but doesn't root it, then she'll have to deal with all the bloatware the carriers put on the phone.
Can someone really tell me what WP7 and iphone comparisons there really are aside from their more strict markets. I mean yeah you cant sideload apps as easy as android but what motivation do devs have to continue developing if their apps are distributed for free.
For the simple love of sharing!!!
As it have been done for many years in WM
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Can someone really tell me what WP7 and iphone comparisons there really are aside from their more strict markets. I mean yeah you cant sideload apps as easy as android but what motivation do devs have to continue developing if their apps are distributed for free.
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This may be just from my perspective but yeah. Here goes.
Android/Linux-Nice if you work it just right, however it takes hours of tinkering and at least a basic knowledge of the operating system before it can really be considered asa daily driver. It has it's problemd but because it's open source AND pretty easy people flock to it.
Windows/WP7- Very simple, very clean, lacks a few functions that we'd like to have but all in all very usable and good at what it does. The most well known and for most people easiest to understand and operate. (Yes I know WP7 is not the most well known)
Iphone/Mac- Just simple, without some major hacking it cant perform a lot of basic functions, anything that can be done on this can likely be done on another OS, comes with all the software necessary for it to work but doesnt give you much choice on what you want. Essentially pick this program or do without. Computers/phones for dummies or people who think they're "indie" by going with a corporate giant :/
Android - it's a basic interface phone, does what it says on the tin, but can be customised to do more.
Linux - great as a free server, great as an office PC, not so great if you're a home user who doesn't know how it works.
WM6.5 - It works, excellent business integration, GB of support, plenty of aftermarket improvements to simply customise it, never really understood by MS.
WP7 - simplistic, dull, lacks simple features which phones 10 years ago had. If you think the iphone is too complicated then this is the phone for you. Let uncle Bill look after your data, you can trust him...
W7 - Nice aero snap and peek features. We don't want you to use the program menu though.
Iphone - Simple phone, external airplane mode feature, other phone users will think you're a prat. It has the GB, and the WIFI. It can download apps.
Mac - show the world you have more money than sense. For people who find mice with more than one button complicated, and don't get sarcasm.
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Android - it's a basic interface phone, does what it says on the tin, but can be customised to do more.
Linux - great as a free server, great as an office PC, not so great if you're a home user who doesn't know how it works.
WM6.5 - It works, excellent business integration, GB of support, plenty of aftermarket improvements to simply customise it, never really understood by MS.
WP7 - simplistic, dull, lacks simple features which phones 10 years ago had. If you think the iphone is too complicated then this is the phone for you. Let uncle Bill look after your data, you can trust him...
W7 - Nice aero snap and peek features. We don't want you to use the program menu though.
Iphone - Simple phone, external airplane mode feature, other phone users will think you're a prat. It has the GB, and the WIFI. It can download apps.
Mac - show the world you have more money than sense. For people who find mice with more than one button complicated.
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That I can, if a fluid UI makes you simpler than the iphone then I will take simplicity over linux any day... I just dont get the benefit other than the android gaming community and that's coming form someone who dual-boots fedora on his computer regularly.... aside from things like the cube it just cant do much that windows cant and windows can do so much more.
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That I can, if a fluid UI makes you simpler than the iphone then I will take simplicity over linux any day... I just dont get the benefit other than the android gaming community and that's coming form someone who dual-boots fedora on his computer regularly.... aside from things like the cube it just cant do much that windows cant and windows can do so much more.
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A simplistic and uninspiringly dull interface on a phone which is missing features even my old Ericsson handset had, then yes it's simpler than the iphone.
As for android, personally I find it meh, I use it for a couple of games and kindle. I can't see what all the fuss is about it.
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A simplistic and uninspiringly dull interface on a phone which is missing features even my old Ericsson handset had, then yes it's simpler than the iphone.
As for android, personally I find it meh, I use it for a couple of games and kindle. I can't see what all the fuss is about it.
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Nor can I, its decent but not astounding. I have an HD2 that I still use to tinker with. It's a great phone but only if you really want to tinker. I still play with it frequently and always keep it at its most up to date state in terms of roms but with windows 7 its nice to have a phone that works well out of the box, thats something I havent seen since before the days of smartphones and it's a great thing to see. The UI might be dull to some but I like the simplicity there, a lot of people on android go out of their way to make the UI as plain as possible rather than making it look jumbled. WP7 just mad that necessary and added some very fluid animations. In time we will be able to sideload properly and we'll have the support. For now I have a phone that works well that has not been modded in the least and I enjoy that.
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Nor can I, its decent but not astounding. I have an HD2 that I still use to tinker with. It's a great phone but only if you really want to tinker. I still play with it frequently and always keep it at its most up to date state in terms of roms but with windows 7 its nice to have a phone that works well out of the box, thats something I havent seen since before the days of smartphones and it's a great thing to see. The UI might be dull to some but I like the simplicity there, a lot of people on android go out of their way to make the UI as plain as possible rather than making it look jumbled. WP7 just mad that necessary and added some very fluid animations. In time we will be able to sideload properly and we'll have the support. For now I have a phone that works well that has not been modded in the least and I enjoy that.
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I don't recognise the asertion that you have to tinker with the HD2 to get it to work.
I only ever run stock roms, not had an issue with any of them, they just work.
I don't want animations that seem to take forever or somehow give me travelsickness (thank you htc hub), I like that in WM6.5 I tap on a shortcut and the program starts, I tap on the program grid and it appears straight away. I don't have to wait for things to flip over or spin round.
I like that on WM6.5 I can have a wallpaper to brighten my day whenever I use my phone, I do really like that android has live wallpapers (I have fish swimming around my phone).
I also like that I've got so much integration with exchange.
The CEO of one of my clients likes how he can use WinMo to synchronise his work contacts and calender entries with his home PC's Outlook just by plugging his phone in. He's not techie but he has no problems with WinMo and certainly hasn't done any tweaks. Thankfully he's techie enough to understand the dangers of the cloud so certainly won't be going for WP7.
What do you mean by "dangers of the cloud" something like big brother? I guess that is a concern if theres something to hide but I guess thats not me. I love the HD2 but definitely not stock, I liked the vanilla that looked similar to zune player but even then the keyboard was just awful without swype going into menus without a stylus was terrible unless you have the hands of a three-year-old, and it still seemed slow to react. As for wallpapers it doesnt concern me, I have a lockscreen of my son that does fine because if im on my phone im seldom on the homescreen. I feel windows mobile was just intended for a stylus and through our community here we made it something better but certainly not flawless. Also, I've never even had to plug in to sync my contacts. Between past phones with google and microsoft and a couple facebook contacts I've got all the people I need and then some. I just feel android is intended for low end devices and WM6.5 was a stylus phone rather than a finger friendly phone regardless of the hardware.
All in all, WM6.5 was the last bastion of free and personal mobile OS, which many have failed to embrace (and really, who can blame them?). From here on out, it'll be like Orwell's 1984 and every person will be tagged with an RFID in a form of their mobile phone. Resistance is futile...
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What do you mean by "dangers of the cloud" something like big brother? I guess that is a concern if theres something to hide but I guess thats not me. I love the HD2 but definitely not stock, I liked the vanilla that looked similar to zune player but even then the keyboard was just awful without swype going into menus without a stylus was terrible unless you have the hands of a three-year-old, and it still seemed slow to react. As for wallpapers it doesnt concern me, I have a lockscreen of my son that does fine because if im on my phone im seldom on the homescreen. I feel windows mobile was just intended for a stylus and through our community here we made it something better but certainly not flawless. Also, I've never even had to plug in to sync my contacts. Between past phones with google and microsoft and a couple facebook contacts I've got all the people I need and then some. I just feel android is intended for low end devices and WM6.5 was a stylus phone rather than a finger friendly phone regardless of the hardware.
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With MS3.5 WM becomes the most finger friendly phone I've used.
From the sounds of things, you don't use a phone for much, so I can see the appeal of WP7 for you.
The issue with the cloud is not MS poking around but some hacker. MS is a much larger target than my clients' own servers. They cannot risk their data in the hands of an entity which they have no control over and no SLA with.
MS has a history of poor security, both regards to hacking and data redundancy, look at the user data they lost without having backups. It is not plausible to expect businesses to expose themselves to such risks.
If someone hacks in and gets access to your data, then it's no big deal, someone hacks into my clients' data and companies can go bust, court cases get dismissed, generally not good.
I run my own exchange server so have no need to sync with a desktop, but for those who want to be able to sync their work mailbox data with their home computer it was an excellent secure business feature.
Funny you should mention swype, I've never needed it on winmo, but on Android (and WP7 if I ever was forced to use one longer than 5 minutes) I've installed it simply because the stock keyboard (pretty much identical to WP7's) is vile.
Why should I have to flip to a different overlay to enter numbers when it has the function of longpress?
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All in all, WM6.5 was the last bastion of free and personal mobile OS, which many have failed to embrace (and really, who can blame them?). From here on out, it'll be like Orwell's 1984 and every person will be tagged with an RFID in a form of their mobile phone. Resistance is futile...
GET TO THAA CHOOPPPPAAAA!!!
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Don't forget new phones which detect the stock rom isn't being run so hard reset to it.
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Mac - show the world you have more money than sense. For people who find mice with more than one button complicated.
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You, in fact, are a prat. The amount of work needed to put into Linux to make it simply usable is simply ridiculous. Mac runs the fastest out of the box and is insanely reliable.
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You, in fact, are a prat. The amount of work needed to put into Linux to make it simply usable is simply ridiculous. Mac runs the fastest out of the box and is insanely reliable.
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Thank you, I've just had to edit the original post
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With MS3.5 WM becomes the most finger friendly phone I've used.
From the sounds of things, you don't use a phone for much, so I can see the appeal of WP7 for you.
The issue with the cloud is not MS poking around but some hacker. MS is a much larger target than my clients' own servers. They cannot risk their data in the hands of an entity which they have no control over and no SLA with.
MS has a history of poor security, both regards to hacking and data redundancy, look at the user data they lost without having backups. It is not plausible to expect businesses to expose themselves to such risks.
If someone hacks in and gets access to your data, then it's no big deal, someone hacks into my clients' data and companies can go bust, court cases get dismissed, generally not good.
I run my own exchange server so have no need to sync with a desktop, but for those who want to be able to sync their work mailbox data with their home computer it was an excellent secure business feature.
Funny you should mention swype, I've never needed it on winmo, but on Android (and WP7 if I ever was forced to use one longer than 5 minutes) I've installed it simply because the stock keyboard (pretty much identical to WP7's) is vile.
Why should I have to flip to a different overlay to enter numbers when it has the function of longpress?
Don't forget new phones which detect the stock rom isn't being run so hard reset to it.
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I dont use my business phone for much, so its perfect for that. My fun phone is an HD2 where I do my tinkering and such. Even when I run WM on it which is most of the time I theme it like WP7, it's just more fluid. I love all the additional features but I still cant find a keyboard on it that can keep up as well as the Samsung Focus' keyboard... I mean I guess it's different user to user but I could never use a stock HD2, it just doesnt work well for me.
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You, in fact, are a prat. The amount of work needed to put into Linux to make it simply usable is simply ridiculous. Mac runs the fastest out of the box and is insanely reliable.
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Not anymore, Ubuntu is voted as one of the user friendliest linux OS's, and has been holding this since 2006.
User friendly =/= Linux. And this is coming from a guy that used Linux on my old computer. Ubuntu is good but still below par and not on pace with OS X or W7.
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User friendly =/= Linux. And this is coming from a guy that used Linux on my old computer. Ubuntu is good but still below par and not on pace with OS X or W7.
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Ok, different people have different pars
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.... aside from things like the cube it just cant do much that windows cant and windows can do so much more.
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You got to be kidding right, linux hands down eats windows for breakfast and then some. Linux has no limits (well almost), yeah its complicated but anything good is.
I used WinMo 6.5 for about a year and I found it good, but definitely not good enough out of the box. Very customizable though.
I just got Android and I like it, out of the box very good with alot of potential.
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You got to be kidding right, linux hands down eats windows for breakfast and then some. Linux has no limits (well almost), yeah its complicated but anything good is.
I used WinMo 6.5 for about a year and I found it good, but definitely not good enough out of the box. Very customizable though.
I just got Android and I like it, out of the box very good with alot of potential.
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That'd likely be the case if there was more support for it or even if they would make a few games for it because WINE doesnt emulate too much... Theres a severe lack of aplications for it and thats its biggest fault. Android might be usable out of the box but its not pretty and compared to iOS/WP7 its laggy...
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That'd likely be the case if there was more support for it or even if they would make a few games for it because WINE doesnt emulate too much... Theres a severe lack of aplications for it and thats its biggest fault. Android might be usable out of the box but its not pretty and compared to iOS/WP7 its laggy...
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There is support for Linux, Ubuntu offers some professional support but main support is Internet/Community. Linux is not focused on gaming and this isn't mobile world where number of applications determine how good a OS is ?? (I never get that... OMG iphone has 500000 apps....like who cares, most are crap anyway).
In terms of what the OS is able to do, Linux wins, can Windows kernel be modified? No, it's not open source. Imagine Linux as a canvas which you can freely paint on and Windows as a small circle on the canvas which you can't paint outside of.
I got Desire HD and Android looks great with Sense and there's zero lag anywhere, and it's totally stock. iOS is horrid and WP7 I haven't used/seen yet.
I wonder if the transitions/animations in WP7 is actually there to hide the lag because they're bloody long winded and I'd need an option to turn them off to get it to my HD2's level.
Had another disappointment with android today, sent myself an email with a phone number, opened it in android an no obvious option to dial the number (hopefully someone will pop on and say there's a setting or a knack) so rebooted to wm and just tapped the number in the email.
I'm in the market to purchase a new tablet and I've dug around quite thoroughly in hopes of finding something that suits me. I started looking at a nexus device because Nexus devices are generally the best when it comes to Android (At least in terms of Software, Hardware I'll always go Motorola strictly for build quality.) I did my fair share of digging and stumbled into the Microsoft Store here in Austin not expecting much in the way of tablets outside of a Surface and I simply don't like the shape or feel of them (Though the build quality is superb and likely unparalleled outside of the Apple world.) I also couldn't justify $800 for a tablet unless it was as powerful as my gaming laptop that I spent roughly the same amount on.Looking around though, I found this Lenovo Miix 2 8. This thing really feels good. I mean, I've used all there is with Android but this thing feels like it's what Windows 8 was built for. The gestures are amazingly intuitive when you can reach them all, the OS is likely the most touch friendly of it's kind. It's the first tablet that I've used where I felt like I was using a full-scale OS brought down to a tablet size with the added benefit of touch input... It's not just an oversized phone and on top of that, it costs $50 less than the Android tablets I was considering. I have Borderlands 2 playing on this thing at a solid 28-32 FPS and it cost less than the competition. I've been using it for about two days now. I'm mostly an Android user and I'm wondering, is there any real benefit for me to turn this thing back in in my grace period and shuck out another $50 bucks for an Android tablet?
With android everythings intergrated. There's a lot more support with android . I was also looking at a ms tab not too long ago but I was turned off once I realized there wasn't much I could do with customizing the operating system. I like the new tab pro line but the pricing is a bit ridiculous.
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It really all depends on what your priorities are. I had a Windows tablet/phone for about a year and I absolutely loved the user experience. Personally, I think it was the best touch experience I've ever had in a mobile device, and my history of smartphone mobile device OSes has been android-->iOS-->windows phone 7-->windows 8/windows phone 8--> android.
Each device is made for a particular audience and thus will be good at different things. As a consumer device targeted at business users and your average consumers, windows 8 devices do a great job providing a beautiful UI with an intuitive user interface as well as the ability to run desktop applications if needed.
The reason I ultimately went back to Android was because I missed the customizability of it. That and I love the fact that if I want, I can go look at the source for most of the components on my phone, and if I'm really irked about something I can modify it.
If you're just looking for a device to use for entertainment and things like document editing, email, social media, etc, a Windows device will provide an amazing user experience. I wouldn't advocate dropping the tablet you already have to go to android unless there's something specific about Android that you want. As much I loved going back to Android, selling my Lumia 810 was hard for me because I really loved the interface. If Microsoft should ever open source windows phone 8 and make windows 8/windows phone 8 as customizable as android, I'd go back to it in a heartbeat.
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It really all depends on what your priorities are. I had a Windows tablet/phone for about a year and I absolutely loved the user experience. Personally, I think it was the best touch experience I've ever had in a mobile device, and my history of smartphone mobile device OSes has been android-->iOS-->windows phone 7-->windows 8/windows phone 8--> android.
Each device is made for a particular audience and thus will be good at different things. As a consumer device targeted at business users and your average consumers, windows 8 devices do a great job providing a beautiful UI with an intuitive user interface as well as the ability to run desktop applications if needed.
The reason I ultimately went back to Android was because I missed the customizability of it. That and I love the fact that if I want, I can go look at the source for most of the components on my phone, and if I'm really irked about something I can modify it.
If you're just looking for a device to use for entertainment and things like document editing, email, social media, etc, a Windows device will provide an amazing user experience. I wouldn't advocate dropping the tablet you already have to go to android unless there's something specific about Android that you want. As much I loved going back to Android, selling my Lumia 810 was hard for me because I really loved the interface. If Microsoft should ever open source windows phone 8 and make windows 8/windows phone 8 as customizable as android, I'd go back to it in a heartbeat.
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I don't think there will ever be more support for Android than full Windows, it's just not viable and ChromeOS is a sad, strange joke. This is an entertainment and social device. I couldn't care less about customization. I move my apps into their folders and I'm content. I do apologize if I sounded rude in the initial part of this, it was mostly for the other guy. I'm OS agnostic and just use what's more user friendly and Android's OS just isn't as touch friendly or appealing regardless of modification. Live tiles just look cooler. I think I'll likely stick with the Lenovo. I'd rather have a PC that fits in my back pocket as opposed to a slightly larger phone minus the service plan.
I'd go for a Windows tablet if I'd want to work related stuff and all.
I think its up for you to decide. Check both Pros and Cons, have fun checking specifications and reviews about your desired devices.
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I don't think there will ever be more support for Android than full Windows, it's just not viable and ChromeOS is a sad, strange joke. This is an entertainment and social device. I couldn't care less about customization. I move my apps into their folders and I'm content. I do apologize if I sounded rude in the initial part of this, it was mostly for the other guy. I'm OS agnostic and just use what's more user friendly and Android's OS just isn't as touch friendly or appealing regardless of modification. Live tiles just look cooler. I think I'll likely stick with the Lenovo. I'd rather have a PC that fits in my back pocket as opposed to a slightly larger phone minus the service plan.
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Different strokes for different folks. Each has their uses and target audience. Congrats on finding a new home!
I've tried both a Windows tablet and an assortment of Android devices, though my views may be a bit biased as a Linux/Android user/developer. Overall, I feel that the user experience of an Android device is much smoother, more integrated, and overall more enjoyable. From a developers standpoint, I find Android to be more simplistic (in terms of ease of development), and yet far more advanced in terms of what I can actually do.
There is also something to be said about the scope of what Microsoft can do, vs what Google can do. IMO, although I find Google to be much more assertive in our daily lives, they are able to create a much more enjoyable user experience than Microsoft can.
In short? I'd shell out the extra $50 for the Android.
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I've tried both a Windows tablet and an assortment of Android devices, though my views may be a bit biased as a Linux/Android user/developer. Overall, I feel that the user experience of an Android device is much smoother, more integrated, and overall more enjoyable. From a developers standpoint, I find Android to be more simplistic (in terms of ease of development), and yet far more advanced in terms of what I can actually do.
There is also something to be said about the scope of what Microsoft can do, vs what Google can do. IMO, although I find Google to be much more assertive in our daily lives, they are able to create a much more enjoyable user experience than Microsoft can.
In short? I'd shell out the extra $50 for the Android.
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I've had the opposite experience. Android's dev tools are awful... Likely the worst of the lot. Microsoft put a ton of work into their development suite and it shows. That and Android has never been a smooth experience for me. It's one I've mostly enjoyed but I've had a lot of battery pulls, force closes, and ill-responsive devices en route to that point. Sure, you have system access but honestly, it almost needs it to be usable on anything outside of a Nexus device. I don't see where Android creates a better user experience on any front.
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Well, I never have or own a window phone or windows tablet ever so I cannot said much about it. However, as an Android user, I have more privilege on doing whatever I want to my phone or to my tablet (Kindle fire) like root my phone and tablet. I still own a SG2! it is still running smoothly with milestone installed. I guess it is up to the users. Users that like to modified their phones tend to go beyond a regular user. Users that are not really into modifying their phones tend to just go with original stock. On the tablet side, I love doing thing like rooting and modifying to something else like replace amazon store with google play store. I guess I do not like anything without root.
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I've had the opposite experience. Android's dev tools are awful... Likely the worst of the lot. Microsoft put a ton of work into their development suite and it shows. That and Android has never been a smooth experience for me. It's one I've mostly enjoyed but I've had a lot of battery pulls, force closes, and ill-responsive devices en route to that point. Sure, you have system access but honestly, it almost needs it to be usable on anything outside of a Nexus device. I don't see where Android creates a better user experience on any front.
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MS dev tools are pretty nice, but that's because they have to be. Android's not really meant to be a centralized and standardized experience. It's meant to succeed or fail based on the motivation and effort of the open source community. It's a much smoother ride when MS controls all of the internals and the only way to actually make changes is through their tools.
I have never enjoyed the interface of the windows devices, I felt they were too restricted in what was available for them compared to android. Im speaking from past experience so im not sure what todays devices are like but its Android all the way for me, also the support for android is widespread, i think you would be hard pressed to find more help than whats available for android.
"What reason is there to buy an Android tablet over a Windows tablet?"
It's not windows. Nuff said.
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I suggest you tou an Android tablet (especially Google Nexus 7 2013 version). Android is highly customisable, has more features and is way more easier to use. The User Interface is very friendly and the tablet's performance is so smooth. You won't regret buying Nexus 7 or another Android tablet. A thing that Windows tablets doesn't have is CyanogenMod, SlimKat and the rest magical stuff. Think about it. It's up to you.
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In my opinion, the sole reason would be selection of Apps
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In my opinion, the sole reason would be selection of Apps
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That's right. There are 700.00+ apps to choose from Google Play. Also you can install apps that do not come from the Market (a.k.a. unknown sources).
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They both got their perks, I would say android tablet, I own a Sony Xperia Tablet S and a galaxy note 8.0 and its does everything from reading magazines, playing games, working on word/excel/etc... Haven't touch windows since their shenanigans on windows vista
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Microsoft is very weak in tablet technology. There are few Metro applications comparing with the Android market. And regarding to desktop applications, they are not optimized to be used with touch screens at all. Moreover, the are not optimized for small displays neither. Even in my 10.1 netbook screen, some applications have problems to layout its windows correctly.
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That's right. There are 700.000+ apps to choose from Google Play. Also you can install apps that do not come from the Market (a.k.a. unknown sources).
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integration and personlisation