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[Q] Connecting TF to external DVI display

Hi !
I want to use an external screen with my TF. I spotted some stuff on ebay I think might work, but I'm not totally sure. Since shipping will take 3 weeks at least, I'd like to be 100% sure it will be the right one for the TF.
My screen doesn't have hdmi, it's a VGA / DVI screen, so I was thinking of buying an hdmi to DVI cable, and an Hdmi to mini hdmi adapter to plug it into the TF. Will this work ? Or is there something like the stupid USB port that will accept only the Asus usb adapter to be able to communicate with it ? (I'm pretty pissed of with that one, since I can't find it cheap in my country, and the only websites I found in the US willing to ship to Switzerland quoted me shipping a 200$)
That the stuff I was planning on buying :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
and
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
What do you think ? Might work ?
Thanks !

i've done this exact thing recently.. it works well.. I sat one of my monitors next to my bed and streamed some tv.
Though when i got the mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter.. it came with a pretty nice screen protector, too.
TL;DR: yes it will work.
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Thanks ! I'll do that, then ! For my part, it's to view pdfs (like Photoshop magazines) on a bigger screen while having the ability to flip through the pages. I already have two screens on the computer, can't put a third one without changing the graphic card, so I thought putting it on the TF would be a nice solution

that's a pretty good idea! its nice for watching shows in bed... or ircing with a bluetooth keyboard, too. ;D
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So, some news about my oh so great idea...
I finally received both the dvi - hdmi cable and the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter. I was very excited, plugged it in the screen and in the TF, and... "check cable signal". Yep. I tried finding stuff on the internet, nothing. Then my screen wouldn't work anymore altogether, I was a bit panicked. But yeah, as I like to live dangerously, I plugged it in my other screen... nothing, "check cable signal". (and then the screen wouldn't work anymore either and it took half an hour to get it back on the PC after switching cables, going VGA mode, playing with graphic card settings...)
I thought, maybe the TF isn't sending the signal properly, let's try the camera (Nex from Sony, with hdmi). Same thing, "check cable signal".
So now, my question... Is it possible both my screens are too old to be able to get hdmi signal ? (seems weird, but why not, they are not HD and don't have any hdmi entry) Or is the most probable scenario that my cable isn't working properly ? Or can it be the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter ? I only have my TF and my Nex with hdmi outputs, and they are mini hdmi, I have no other gear I can try with.
What do you think ? Screen is too old or cable is faulty ?

Are your monitors HDCP?
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No idea... How do I check that ? (but I read from a guy who put the TF on external monitor by using an hdmi - vga cable, surely it was not an hdcp screen)

I believe you should be fine. If the monitor/tv supports DVI (Digital Video Interface) then you will be fine with an HDMI to DVI adapter as HDMI is also a digital video signal. Now if it was HDMI to VGA (analog video) then you would need a converter of some type.
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I had the same problem, and it appears that my monitor does not handle the tf101 resolution through dvi (1280x960).
And there is actually no way to lower the tf101 output resolution through hdmi, afaik.
So check on the screen's manual the max resolution your monitors could handle through dvi (be careful,
it might be different than from vga).

my screen is in 1650x1050, or something like that. The other one should be at least a 1280x960. So it might be that the cable is not working properly ? How can I know if the problem is with the cable and not with the hdmi mini hdmi converter ? What do you think is more likely ?

Depends on the brand of cable and adapter. Usually the HDMI to mini HDMI adapter doesn't break, as it's just a block of plastic (in my case at least)
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Ok, I'll probably go and buy a new cable tomorrow. But I'm thinking about something : I figured the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter + cable puts a strain on the hdmi slot in the TF, so I'm wondering if it might be better to buy an hdmi mini hdmi cable, and an hdmi dvi adapter instead. The strain would be put on the external screen, but that's ok since the dvi is screwed to the screen.
Your opinion ?

I tried exactly what you are doing a few Weeks back, after assuming it would work and trying many combinations of wires I finally searched and found zero confirmed reports that you can use a dvi to hdmi cable for video output.
What I found works is going with a dvi to vga converter, its more expensive but looks like the only way without a straight hdmi to hdmi connection. Asus actually makes a converter for this purpose, HP also has one... I think they are both in the $40-50 range. I don't have links but just google Asus or HP hdmi to VGA converter
Good luck
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Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
BTW, I have a DVI to VGA converter, do you think I should try and stick it on my hdmi dvi cable ? (the thing is lying around, if I can get some use for it, I might as well try)
The Asus thing seems a great idea and I will probably end up buying it.
One thing I don't understand though... Why mini hdmi to VGA ??? Why not mini hdmi to DVI, if that needs a converter anyway, better make it dvi, no ? What about the resolution ? I don't want to get a stupid resolution on my screen because of problems with VGA (and I'm lucky I've still got a screen with VGA and DVI...).

Actually, what about a cable like this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
I would be pissed of if I have to pay $50 for asus adapter if I can get one for 8$ on ebay...
Never mind, after a quick search on the internet, some people tried and it doesn't work...

But actually, I HAVE to ask. Why doesn't it work ? What is the problem ? hdmi is digital, dvi is digital... WHY ???
(I haven't ordered my adapter from asus yet, still looking for a cheaper solution.)
Edit again : what I saw that doesn't work was the hdmi to VGA cable, I couldn't find anything about hdmi to dvi... I might go to the shop tomorrow with the TF and ask if I can try a cable there...

Mini hdmi to hdmi to hdmi-dvi converter works. I've tested this configuration myself.
For the vga, you need a converter, like the asus hdmi-vga one.
Just check the xda forum, searching with hdmi dvi keywords.
You'll have the answers to your question by digging a little more.

My lg monitor works fine with mini hdmi to hdmi to dvi. The ui is in 720p on the screen but if you play 1080p HW accelerated video the resolution changes as well. Wanna see a picture of proof? ;-)
I also have the converter and this works also fine. Have a look at the thread in the Accessoires forum.
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Alexane_A said:
Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
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Firstly, the video part of HDMI is electrically compatible with DVI, that is, they are the same thing just over different wires in a different connector.
However
TFT monitors _may_ not sync down to the specific TV-based refresh rates that HDMI outputs often use. Unless your monitor advertises that it will do the TV resolutions/refresh rates like 1080p/720p etc then its unlikely the TF1010 will display on them. The video output of the TF101 is 720p scaled up to a 1080p signal can your monitors do 1080p?

I haven't the slightest clue... One is quite old, a samsung 2232BW (but that's my main display, so I won't use it with my TF) and the other one is about 1 year old, an HP crap given with a cheap computer...
I might as well buy the cable. Other than that, if my monitor can't handle the 1080p, would it work with the asus hdmi to vga converter ?
(BTW, the prices in the shop are totaly crazy. I went today and saw that the hdmi to dvi cables were about $90, and I found one on ebay, $7 shipping included, gold plated, 3 years warranty)

[Q] can the hdmi port be used as an input for video?

Hi,
I was just wondering if the Mini HDMI port can be used to input video in from a vidoe camera? I dont think it can but I I am hoping:cyclops:

not the hdmi port but you can use the usb / sdcard ports

mrevankyle said:
not the hdmi port but you can use the usb / sdcard ports
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Hi, I am wanting, or would like to use my TF to record video/audio from a analog source (RCA jacks) I saw hdmi to rca converters but it looks like I will have to get something else to record video.
thanks for the reply

I don't think android supports HDMI in not many devices besides monitors actually do. You might want to try an rca/usb adapter but again it is doubtful it would work as android does not support many external devices

Best wired bet would be -->
miniHDMI OUT-->HDMI 2 RCA (very expensive adapter :[ ) ---> Record via RCA
Or get a digital hdmi recorder. New dvd players support this I believe.
What exactly do you need to do?

[q] can you connect to a monitor over DVI?

I purchased this adapter from monoprice, and I cannot get a picture to show up on an external monitor.
I've tried a samsung which is 1920x1200 and a dell that is 1920x1080. Neither monitors detect a signal.
The cable and adapter work with my phone (LG G2X - tegra 2 based); but the picture is 800x480.
has anyone got this to work, and if so, was there a trick to it?

On my old prime I used a micro HDMI adapter a HDMI cable then a HDMI to dvi and that worked. Not sure about the infinity though

Your monitor also has to support the resolution that the Infinity outputs at (1920x1080 60hz). I have two wide screen LCD Monitors and one supports this resolution and the other does not.

My dell support 1080p natively, and my samsung supports it via scaling. I have used the same cable and adapter to hook up my tegra 2 based phone running 2.3.4. It will output 1080p when playing back a 1080p movie using hardware acceleration. It works with both monitors. The TF700 does not. I'm wondering if maybe it's an ICS thing (or a TF700 version of ICS)

Hmm, did you try turning off the 3D output?

specmac said:
Hmm, did you try turning off the 3D output?
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toggling 3d has no effect.
I read that if you leave the tablet on the 3d menu for a few seconds it will toggle the scaling mode on the external display. Again, the monitors just say "no signal".
The hdmi out to an hdmi device ( I tried a TV and a projector ) works great. It just doesn't work over DVI.

I have a theory that this is a HDCP issue. That my hdmi-dvi adapter doesn't support it. I've ordered a new cable that I understand does specifically support HDCP. I report back if it works.

MattZTexasu said:
I have a theory that this is a HDCP issue. That my hdmi-dvi adapter doesn't support it. I've ordered a new cable that I understand does specifically support HDCP. I report back if it works.
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Just so you know, the cable is blissfully ignorant of any HDCP being transferred over it since it's an end-to-end encryption. The two devices being connected together needs to be HDCP compliant, the cable just transfers the data, whether they're encrypted or not.
You're right that it might be a HDCP issue though, but I don't see how a cable can cause that (unless it's a bad cable, that is). HDCP incompatability (in lack of a better word) isn't all uncommon, sadly. HDCP is an abomination and should be killed, preferrably with lots of fire.
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A different cable did not solve the problem. As I type this, I have my PS3 connected to my samsung (1920x1200 ) playing in slightly stretched 1080p mode using the same cable that I bought for the TF700.
the PS3 is undoubtedly enforcing HDCP. It plays games and movies at full resolution.
so, I think that's it. the TF700 just does not work over DVI.

Fire 7" 5th gen hdmi?

I want to play my movie files from my Fire 7 5th gen through an hdmi cable to the tv. Is this possible?
Can I do it with one of those slim port things?

aphexacid said:
I want to play my movie files from my Fire 7 5th gen through an hdmi cable to the tv. Is this possible?
Can I do it with one of those slim port things?
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Obviously no integrated mini-hdmi port on the device. Me thinks the bandwidth, complex data transport (video + sound) plus dcma characteristics of a modern hdmi interface can not be emulated via OTG (usb port). So I'll wager a semi-educated guess - NO.
Read somewhere the device supports miracast and/or chromecast but haven't dabbled with those directly.

Davey126 said:
Me thinks the bandwidth, complex data transport (video + sound) plus dcma characteristics of a modern hdmi interface can not be emulated via OTG (usb port). So I'll wager a semi-educated guess - NO.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobil...dard_Micro-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_.28five-pin.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#SlimPort
No, there is no MHL or SlimPort on the Amazon Fire.

aphexacid said:
I want to play my movie files from my Fire 7 5th gen through an hdmi cable to the tv. Is this possible?
Can I do it with one of those slim port things?
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I tried with a mhl cable, which is micro usb like the charging cable and must be connected via normal hdmi to tv and via usb to some sort of powersorce

Chromecast Mirroring works with fireOS 5.3.1. though the resolution is pretty bad.. mirroring is not working with the latest cm12.1 rom. Others reported it worked with an older build of cm12.1 but couldn't find out which built that was and where to get it.

freaky2xd said:
I tried with a mhl cable, which is micro usb like the charging cable and must be connected via normal hdmi to tv and via usb to some sort of powersorce
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it does not connect to a normal HDMI port, it must be an MHL compatible HDMI port on the back of the display. Usually the letters MHL will be above the specified port.

NightCrayon said:
it does not connect to a normal HDMI port, it must be an MHL compatible HDMI port on the back of the display. Usually the letters MHL will be above the specified port.
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I have a Xperia Z5 and hdmi via hdml works fine with the same cable and port...

The MHL port has the same form as an HDMI port, but it isn't HDMI. HDMI is High-Definition Multimedia Interface, a standard connector included on most new TVs, which allows for uncompressed high-definition digital video and multi-channel audio via a single cable. MHL also allows for the same quality of video and audio input, and uses the same physical end-connector, but it's a different technology that uses five wires or pins to transmit high-def video and audio from a device to your TV while at the same time sending power back to the device.

NightCrayon said:
The MHL port has the same form as an HDMI port, but it isn't HDMI. HDMI is High-Definition Multimedia Interface, a standard connector included on most new TVs, which allows for uncompressed high-definition digital video and multi-channel audio via a single cable. MHL also allows for the same quality of video and audio input, and uses the same physical end-connector, but it's a different technology that uses five wires or pins to transmit high-def video and audio from a device to your TV while at the same time sending power back to the device.
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Look. My Xperia supports MHL. Mhl works fine with my tv and the same cable. The fire tablet however does not. I hate fire thats why I flashed CM12 today

freaky2xd said:
Look. My Xperia supports MHL. Mhl works fine with my tv and the same cable. The fire tablet however does not. I hate fire thats why I flashed CM12 today
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As previously noted there is no evidence the 5th gen Fire will support MHL due to kernel (and possibly hardware/hardwire) restrictions. I would be shocked of Amazon baked in that capability. Hope I'm wrong ....

Davey126 said:
As previously noted there is no evidence the 5th gen Fire will support MHL due to kernel (and possibly hardware/hardwire) restrictions. I would be shocked of Amazon baked in that capability. Hope I'm wrong ....
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Heast homs da ins hian gschissn havara?

freaky2xd said:
Heast homs da ins hian gschissn havara?
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Come again?

Can you use the USB HDMI adapter

AmznUser444 Dev said:
Can you use the USB HDMI adapter
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Err, no...you can't. Absolutely no way USB2 interface will support bandwidth required by HDMI not to mention HDCP support.

aphexacid said:
I want to play my movie files from my Fire 7 5th gen through an hdmi cable to the tv. Is this possible?
Can I do it with one of those slim port things?
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You can use TeamViewer app on your Fire tablet to mirror through PC and mobile. But no capturing audio in TeamViewer, it's only in tablet speaker. You want to using Bluetooth speaker.

Just to contribute, I tried a very cheap and simple looking microUSB to HDMI cable (probably not even MHL, no option to add a power source)
and I can't see any communication between the Fire 7 (5th generation) tablet and my non-smart TV.
Same results when I tried with AmazonOS, and with LineageOS 12.1 recently.
Maybe it would work if there was a way to provide more power to the cable?
However, this cheap cable does not give that option.
And connecting the microUSB part of the cable to the Fire tablet
means that I cannot charge it at the same time.
If I could figure out how to charge the tablet at the same time,
maybe the TV would receive a signal from the cable?
I also tried this cable with my android phone and again, nothing.
Maybe it's the cheap cable. Maybe it's not compatible with anything I own.
My non-smart TV does not seem to have internet capabilities either
but does have USB ports (I have a USB wifi antenna but I doubt the TV has the software to be able to do anything with it).

Mi note 10 - MHL - HDMI Output possible?

Hello!
HDMI Output is possible on this phone?
Ive bought one Usb-c to HDMI converter but its doesnt work.
Somewhere i read that if i get a usb 2.0 to 3.0 converter it would be possible.
Installing two different apps, One says that it support mhl, other says it doesnt.
Thanks

Unfortunately no. Xiaomi does not support mhl.

So there's no way to capture video from the device via capture card?

Not what you're asking for, but I mirrored it fine with an Amazon Fire HDMI stick to my TV. It was a bit touch and go, until I changed my wifi connection to 5GHz. Maybe you could do some HDMI wiggling to get the data?
Cheers
Steve