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which tablet is better the Asus transformer Infinity or Samsung galaxy note 10.1
please tell us what do you think and why?
This is what I think:
for the Asus transformer Infinity:
* it has a a good super IPS+ 1920x1200 Pixels (which I Love) its great for watching full HD movies, web browsing, viewing photos, some apps like Photoshop and document editing. but it comes with some light bleeds and dynamic contrast (which I don't Like).
* it has the Nvidia Tegra 3 (1.6GHz Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9) with battery saving core. with 3D output via Micro HDMI and physics. and games look the best on it. Most tablets have the same Processor type even the Gloogle Nexus which means better support for android in the future.
* it has a nice keyboard dock with extra battery, USB host and SD card reader.
* it can run NTFS file format out of the box without any rooting or hacking.
* base model is $499 with 32G and 1G of DDR3 Ram.
For the SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 10.1:
* it has a great PLS TFT display (i likey), but with a 1280x800 Pixels (Me no likey)
* It comes with the S Pen (active digitizer), which makes it great for work, drawing and students.
* Base model (wifi only)is $735 with 16G and 2G of ram.
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so what do you think which one you would go for and why?
I'm a student and the keyboard on the infinity comes in handy a lot especially when I open my etextbooks and use the find function on certain keywords that I need to know. So I would pick the infinity.
Also I believe the wifi 16gb is 499.99 and the 32 gb is 549.99 for the note according to the rumors
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the screen of the infinity is simply amazing! the resolution is awesome and in normal usage (movies, apps, games, etc.) there is no such thing as light bleeds noticeable (even if you are searching for them)
the s-pen from the galaxy note 10.1 is not that great. I have a samsung galaxy note (phablet) and use the pen not really often. i'm also a little bit dissapointed because the pen isn't that accurate as i thought. I have the infiity and bought a cheap pen for it. that is at least the same in accuracy, i think even better. the advantage of the s-pen would be the additional button for special functions. but i noticed that it's not really a must have. I use the pen button not really often. on the note (phablet) you have to use it because otherwhise you are not able to use the back or menue button (no onscreen buttons).
I would definitly go with the infinity
I hope this helped
Perhaps this is indeed the most closest competition Infinity has on the market right now/soon.
Why NOT galaxy note 10.1.
1. Screen - In all honesty, if this unit had HD screen I might have actually considered this over the Infinity. But no HD screen is a deal breaker.
2. Price - If its really that expensive, the price will likely to either go down quickly or you will see newer better device with cheaper price tag and regret how much you paid.
3. Samsung - Horrible update. With fancy split screen, this will even get worse. One may think 4.1 Jellybean is just a minor update so good chance Samsung may push sooner than it was on ICS BUT what about next Android OS? You have to either wait almost full year or may not even be supported who knows. Whereas, ASUS have the best tracking record on this regard and now with Nexus 7, they will keep having newer android OS. As long as Nexus 7 can be updated, I am sure Transformer prime, infinity and TF300 can.
Good things about 10.1 but reason why NOT still deal breaker
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
3. 2GB RAM. Impressive decision here. However, as pretty much all Android devices at this point are 1GB and nothing really pushing to its limit yet, the chance we see anything different by having 2GB is low except you may be able to do more multitasks than usual but that will drain battery.
Truly better on Galaxy note 10.1
1. Battery Life. Simply Infinity's battery life is problem. So galaxy note 10.1 tramps it.
2. GPU. Though CPU is compatible between 2, GPU benchmark on the Galaxy note 10.1 is superior to that of Infinity by a quite margin. However, I am not certain if we will see anything specific to really utilize this power. My belief is developers will focus on the most common spec, which for tablet likely be the nexus 7. If so, Infinity will certainly not have issue. However, having said this, who knows my huge PDF may open much quicker and smoother on the Galaxy Note.
HoushaSen said:
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
HoushaSen said:
2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
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One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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jtrosky said:
Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
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Holy smoke. This (Overskreen) is amazing. Not even requiring to root and be able to use such application. Wow. With this I don't have any restriction, basically I can browse and do anything else I want. This even supports Flash. Obviously, one Galaxy Note 10.1 user can use this as well.
Thanks a lot.
Woah that overskreen is just amazing on infinity! Thanks a lot it takes this resolution and tablet to whole neww level
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Price of Note for wifi model is $500 for 32gb, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/851200-REG/Samsung_GT_N8013EAYXAR_16GB_Galaxy_Tab_2.html
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
mywingtophone said:
One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
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Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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The only tablet that has the lowest build quality issues are the ipads everyone else is a hit or miss.
jtrosky said:
Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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I am using an app called "Floating Note free". It works great
lesonal said:
Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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i'd have to disagree. samsung has less defects and problems than asus on tablets according to forum posts and my experience. i went through 4 og transformers before i gave up. i almost got a prime until i saw all the issues still going on with asus tablets. and of course some of the same issues are still here for their latest flagship tablet (bleed, dock draining spontaneously...). the one i have has developed both bleed and the clicking (both of which developed on all my OG tf after 3 days). since i don't see the bleed unless i'm in a dark room with full brightness (something i never do in actual use) it's not really an issue. plus at full brightness in daylight it's not noticeable either. the click is a bit annoying though. in my transfomers the click was because the screen was separating.
samsung's support for the hardware is piss poor however. and sammy's aren't as popular as the tf's dev support isn't as active also.
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dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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couldnt find it...seems like they removed it from playstore maybe?
I had actually considered waiting for this tablet, but based on all the feedback I read about how they never update their stuff, and we are already scheduled for JB, I went with the Asus.
I am still curious though, so I posted here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831115
Have a look.
i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice.
externally - the infinity wins but its not like the note is butt ugly
internally - the note wins, benchmarks proves it and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. does the android need it? who cares, the more the better.
build quality - note: general consensus says samsung is the best out of the androids tablets and no one has complained about the build of the note. the infinity does have a few, but so far they havent manifested into sometime you really need to worry about. some people have gotten a perfect infinity though.
FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. Did anyone complain about the prime's resolution when it came out (at the moment more ppi than the ipad 2)? people just got spoiled, but it would be nice (ive seen the differences and it looks great). the note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring.
i/o - doesn't exists in samsungs world. i know the .26 fixed it for the most part (funny, i notice that after that update the infinity forum got a little less active)
updates - asus wins hands down but from all the reviews on the note its working perfectly fine out of the box. its not like jellybean is going to make it 3 times faster, the note is already fast on ics. keep in mind samsung makes the cpu and the tablet which may explain why their tablet are so much more fluid. alot of people are betting on jellybean to fix the io problem on the infinity but its not for sure.
speakers - the note has two speakers that is on the front pointed towards you.
keyboard - depends on the person, i will mainly need a tablet to write on and if i were to ever need a keyboard i can always use a bluetooth keyboard.
bluetooth - some people are having issues on their infinity with audio sync. the note doesnt have that and has aptx, an audio codec that improves the quality of the sound it is streaming (youll need an aptx compliant receiver though).
ir - the ir on the note is convenient for my time off being lazy on the couch web browsing while watching tv.
spen - some have complained about their experience on the orginal note but reviews has said samsung has improved it on the note 10.1. ive played with the orginal note and didnt have anything to complain about on the writing experience. at the moment no additional accessories can mimic an active digitizer (the cregle pen for ipad does look promising though)
gaming - even though the note has a better gpu, nvidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. hence, the tegra 3 gaming apps so the infinity may have a better gaming longevity if you want to get the fullest out of some games.
developers - asus diffidently has the most support from the community. although one main developer of CyanogenMod has given up on the infinity
as it stands (my opinion),
infinity: beautiful and expensive ereader and if you're a man that gambles, youll appreciate it more if you get a good one. gaming is better on it but there has been complaints about freezes (may be due to io) so thats kind of counterintuitive. betting that jb will fix io is too much for me.
but if the fhd and aluminum frame is really that important and you can overlook the possible issues of the infinity, get the infinity. hopefully all the complaints on the infinity are just from a select few and you will be bless with a perfect one.
note 10.1: a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box. in the end the only downside i see on note is not having a full hd but that shouldn't really matter. at the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note.
right now im at 60 on the note, 40 on the infinity. but in the end it will really depend on the price. the early releases of the note are pretty expensive but that's usually how it is until the official release of the product has been revealed. theres no real official word from samsung saying that there will be a wifi only version and whether how much any of the models will cost. the price will determine which one i buy forsure.
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
Mike_23 said:
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
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you can make calls from pretty much any tablet. All you need is a google voice number and/or GrooveIP.
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@denniegst
You try to convince yourself that the GNote 10.1 is better than the TF700, Denniegst.
I show you.
"i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice."
I am an engineering student too, if I need to calculate / take notes with formulas / graphs, paper and pencil is much better for those rough copy. I don't need to buy GNote 10.1 for 500$ to make rough copy. But when I travel, or when I am somewhere else, I need something to write my report, with a physical keyboard and more battery (TF700).
Moreover, I am a student and I like watching movies / TV series, Full HD is much better. With a mini Boombox that's awesome ! The Full HD is also very good to do web browsing, I don't want to go back to something less then HD !! :silly:
I really suggest you to take TF700... I know S-Pen seems funny, but you would only use it for Draw Something App, and maybe to have fun with your friends on S-Note.
About hardware, TF700 is very strong, for some years (even with Full HD games + PS3 gamepad).
"externally, internally, and build quality..."
Subjectives views. As you wish. Benchmarks are meaningless, you can't compare Full HD with non-HD tablet. But both GNote & TF700 are
"FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. The note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring."
I won't go back to 1200*800 or HD now. Full HD is the best, for multimedia or even for web browsing, or games, or ... everything. :good:
"i/o and updates"
TF700 has no problem here. I don't know about GNote. But as you said, ASUS wins.
About updates, you can't say that Jelly Bean isn't going to make it 3 times faster, that's not the point. That's about fixing issues. And if you were @2.3.6 for example, you know that you would like to be @4.0. If you were @4.0, you would like to play with 4.1 or more.
"speakers and keyboard"
Both things called "accessories". But, TF700 has more than an accessories because his keyboard is perfectly suitable for it, with a battery. For example, I'm going to have 7 hours plane, that will be a good help.
Speakers are tablet speakers... if you really do care about this, I suggest mini BoomBox, or Jambox ($$$).
About the battery, we can't believe Samsung or ASUS numbers, the community reports are good. I don't know them, but TF700 has a good thing : NVidia 4+1 processors. When you put "Battery Saving" mode, there is only 1 processor on, you can watch 1080p movies anyway, and the battery is going on for long.
"spen"
I have a bad opinion on this, because I think that's more a gadget. I am engineering student too, and S-Pen won't help us, but it would slow down our note taking. You can have fun with Draw Something App anyway...
"gaming and developers"
As you said, NVidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. But I would like to talk about Full HD Gaming, it really works very good ! That's the future...
And you know that ASUS has a good community.
"a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box"
Of course not ! It can't replace paper and pen !! You'll see... Try to work in groups for example (engineer stuff), with a GNote... Try to write equations and talk about it with colleagues with GNote... Try to do some maths with your GNote... I can assure you that a paper + pencil is irreplaceable.
"At the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note."
Full HD in not a luxury feature ! :laugh:
That's the future ! That's much easier to work on Full HD, that's much better for movies, that's much better for everything.
About "peace and mind on quality build and io", you can't know that. You will see after weeks, but ASUS is good too, in my opinion. You just try to convince yourself I think.
I think that you will buy the GNote. But I really would like to talk with you few weeks later, then few months later. We will see.
@Mike_23
"Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature "
Do you mean that you can put a SIM Card with 30$/month ?
You already have a phone. And there are application to put use your phone with your tablet if you need it. Or Viber, or Skype, ...
ASUS TF700 has everything we need for some years (HDMI, Wifi Direct, Full HD, Keyboard + battery, strong hardware, USB which support external hard drive, µSD and SD (in the keyboard), touchpad (or mouse with USB port), ..). S-Pen could be there, but it's not very important for me... I already have a capacitive pencil, and I never use it !
Despite all the issues raised/listed here (including myself..), Infinity still remains the best Android Tablet at least by review sites. Here is another 9/10 score review, just released yesterday.
http://www.neowin.net/news/review-asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t
Very detailed review.
I am posting this so for those who feel like seeing too many negative posts, and doubting the infinity, there are certainly lots of positives on this unit. There are other tablets out there including Galaxy Note 10.1 and iPad series. They all have pros and cons.
My take is simply depends on your use, and with so many reviews giving such high score on infinity simply speaks average people would enjoy infinity over any other Android tablet on the market right now.
For me, Galaxy Note 10.1 was the biggest contender (and owned for three weeks). I ended up choosing/returning back to Infinity because Full HD is such a huge component and something I appreciate every second use (browsing web, reading ebooks, watching lecture videos). In return, I don't get as perfect stability as Galaxy Note but ANR/FC every other day is something I can tolerate. Extra 10 seconds of heavy Flash site loading I can waste. And unfortunately I can't write as fast as I type.
I agree, now that we have so many choices there never really is one great one that is good for everyone. Each person needs to start doing some of their own thinking and choose what works best for them. This is probably why we see the isheep being so driven to CrApple products because they can't make their own decisions they would rather have CrApple do it for them. So they buy whatever they put out not realizing maybe something else cheaper is a better fit for what they need. This is my late night epiphony.
HoushaSen said:
unfortunately I can't write as fast as I type.
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The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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The new JB builds in the Dev section literally make my infinity fly
With all the fancy specs, but in reality, the Infinity is a disappointment product OUT OF THE BOX. It's not worth $600 due to many issues, including user experiences and things that are not working properly. Hopefully the Jelly Bean could bring its life back to standard.
junrider said:
The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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Why are you turning this in to yet ANOTHER 10.1 vs Infinity thread? There are enough of those about already.
On topic - Nice balanced review with plenty of pictures and details. In the month I've had my Infinity I haven't had any ANRs and the only app that crashes is Skype which I really can't explain, very random. Still very pleased with my purchase and looking forward to JB!
Dub Tech said:
Why are you turning this in to yet ANOTHER 10.1 vs Infinity thread? There are enough of those about already.
On topic - Nice balanced review with plenty of pictures and details. In the month I've had my Infinity I haven't had any ANRs and the only app that crashes is Skype which I really can't explain, very random. Still very pleased with my purchase and looking forward to JB!
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Surprisingly (in good sense), I have noticed this unit (third one) is much stable. I haven't seen ANR since firmware reset, which I had to do since suddenly I could no longer update/install some applications from the Google Play. I had one stock browser sudden close but this happened even on Galaxy Note.
I wonder if at all this time I had two defective units, or simply turning off the bloatware was the magic needed.
In any event, I can now say I love Infinity.
I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
Im going to have to give the edge to the note. The combination of lower resolution and 2gigs of ram make it super fast. When i open an app on both devices at the same time i will say the note wins a majority of the time. When it comes to web browsing the note is a clear cut winner when scrolling through pages very little hangups. The infinity isnt far behind though and i am not a fanboy for either device i think they are both great but raw performance goes to the note.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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for me plastic is cheap, no matter what kind u use, and if you use shiny plastics thats less cheaper haptics than ASUS.
Have you tried TF700T with 4.1 JB ROM? It is a lot more responsive and no more lags at all. More Resolution means more work for the Memory even on the UI, if it isn't optimized for this it would lag. Or did you have seen a more resoponsive Full HD Tablet now?! The I/O Troubles from cheap chips? Hynix 64GB NAND chip in 2X nm technology? Not the main problem about the I/O troubles more kernel side I think.
Yes Design is subjective. But please tell me that you better choose the Note Design over the Apple iPad's or ASUS TF700's. That should be a joke. Every review out there calls the plastic cheap.. and what feels cheap has a bad haptic in my understanding.
Stylus is a pretty nice feature for sure, but to be clear if you have the choice between Full HD and Stylus I choose Full HD because more density is just more.. more website, more picture, more from everything. If you want to draw on your tablet or you take handwritten notes often the stylus is yours. But why no full hd with stylus? the Display is just cheap and the display is one of the most important parts of a tablet.
I never had any real delay on my TF700T just little lags like on the most 4.0 Devices but from what you say delay in office I've never seen anything.
Tell me you would not prefer a Galaxy Note 10.1 and ASUS TF700T combination. The best of both worlds. ASUS Metal Body, Display, Dock, Camera, DDR3 and maybe Samsungs Stylus, 2GB Dualchannel Memory, IR-remote.
And as long as this perfect tablet doesn't exists everyone have to choose wich points he gives more wight.
And WHAT?! Rooting don't viod ASUS Warranty. Even unlocked ASUS still is cool with hardware defects.
Samsung also have a way to see what you have installed on your tablet and will don't give you warranty if you do great ****. Ever heard about Binary Counter?
Ever heard of the app that resets binary counter? Not like Asus which logs your s/n and has denied many warranty claims on that fact alone.
Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
I guess you could search the infinity forum and the note forum and see which has more complaint threads.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
Well this got a lil out of hand lol. i was just answering a question that someone asked. He asked what one was faster and i gave him my opinion on it after playing with both side by side. He didn't seem worried about what they were made of, what JB would bring or what rooting/custom roms would do. Im guessing he was talking about sock out of the box devices if im worng then im sorry. I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war thread.
I have a Motorola Droid and an Infinity so if anyone wants to ask questions about that matchup, fire away.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
i'm not a fan boy of asus, infact i have GS3. I have tried so hard to like the Galaxy Note 10.1. Bought it and returned it to bestbuy TWICE. trying to like it more than my asus and just can't. First i hate the cheap plastic YES CHEAP PLASTIC. hate it when you are holding the devices it feel SO CHEAP. Second the screen sucks compare to asus, cannot look at such low resolution and salutated colors, third i cannot get use to using a big touchwiz tablet, with all that crap installed. I understand that you can install custom rom, but 90% of the people don't even know about custom rom so they are force to use the tablet just has it is. With the infinity you don't have to do any of that. It looks plain ICS just the way i like it. Touchwiz looks to cartoony made for kids. I use my tablet for presentation and HDMI output is a must for me. Hate the way samsung uses HDMI, have to buy a $40 xtra connector plus using MHL hdmi requires Xtra power connector to an outlet for it to work. Asus tf700 run a microHDMI from tablet to HDMI TV and done.
OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
I also have a note 10.1 that i won at work. Its nice, the pen thing is pretty cool but otherwise useless unless i want to draw or be an artsy pantsy dude. I mean using supernote on my infinity and writing with my fingers is as good if not better than the S pen app suite from samsung. The tablet is quite more responsive because lag plaigs the transformer but again, the TF700 has the ressources, just need to work on the software issue. The note is fatter, thicker and chunkier, it feels much cheaper also. The TF700 overall is the better tablet, it feel premium, has a beatiful screen resolution that in certain cases is better. I've compared both tablet side-by-side and played an MKV bluray rip and suprisingly the note has better, brighter colors, the blue is more blue, the greens are more green and in color saturation its considerably nicer. but unless you compare side by side, there is no way to know.
P.S. I can make a side by side video for you guys tonight
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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I encourage people to express opinion. But don't express it as fact.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
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I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks before returning. Prior to which I had Transformer Infinity for almost 4 weeks. So what I have now? I am back to Infinity and plan to keep it.
Galaxy Note 10.1 essentially superior to Infinity every aspect except screen i.e. smoother, more stable, faster (especially browser), longer tablet standalone battery life. This is a fact. You put things side by side and ran same applications, it is easy to see without even running benchmark tests.
So why I chose Infinity? Because the difference in aforementioned areas are to me not significant enough to the difference in screen resolution.
Full HD is (to me) noticeble every seconds I use the tablet. Slightly less stability i.e. random crash every other day or so (which for some reason seemed to have improved) vs. once every week is manageable. Loading web page is slower but that is like 10 seconds on really flash heavy site that I visit so I am losing probably 5-10 minutes every day at most because of the difference in page loading time.
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OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
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I prolly wont do any vids there are quite a few on youtube.
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Thats OK said:
Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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Yeah little typo, it doesnt seem that i proofread. Sorry about that.
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Hi guys
Been thinking about buying a tablet for a long time. I have had extensive experience with the motorolla XOOM and a lenovo *forget the name*
Both were just not right.. They could not achieve what I wanted to achieve and the xoom was close but with no USB port to attach camera etc it just isnt right for my use.
I have been using android for a very long time and have thrown many custom roms on my phones etc
I plan to develop some apps, but most importantly I see the device being capable for travelling. Backing up my photos from my camera, taking movies with me for the plane etc.
A must is also the capability to browse Samba shares. I know android file manager apps have improved significantly to improve this.
As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
Thanks
if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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Right on!
Took 86 words right from my mouth...
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if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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Ditto. I've used it for movies on planes, output to a TV to watch a movie at a friend's house, and instant video review from a GoPro with the SD slot on the keyboard. Have used it to get files into flash drives via the USB as well. The keyboard also makes it perfect for RDP to my server, wherever I might be. I came from a Prime with serious antenna interference that prevented use through one wall at home, and that has not been an issue on my Infinity (though I still get a slight reduction in Wifi throughput while connected to Bluetooth). My biggest gripe until I unlocked was the interface speed, and Cleanrom made it feel like a whole new device; feels like my Galaxy Nexus.
This is my portable computer now; my trusty Thinkpad hasn't been touched since I got my Infinity.
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This device is very quick with Clean rom 2.3 and overclocked kernal. Before unlocking I was a little skeptical however once I unlocked the device has been great! If I was you I would go to best buy and buy it, test it out, then if you dont like it then return it before the 30 day warranty. Just keep it locked if you go that route. It doesnt use its full potential that way but atleast you will get a taste of this goodness. Stock Jelly Bean honestly wasnt that bad either just not as quick as Clean rom.
I also think it can replace a netbook maybe not a notebook like higher end notebook or anything. If you do a lot of game playing on a higher end notebook then its not the same however if you just browse the net then this is perfect for you and some.
Hi,
first of all: Sorry for my bad english. I come from germany.
I use this device for university, and i think i wouldn't buy it now, after using it for approx. 3 months. The stock browser is very slow. Even my Galaxy S2 with stock rom was better. Sometimes i don't believe that there's a quad core inside. It feels to slow. Pherhaps i also have to test a custom rom, but i don't want to loose guarantee.
The Infinity combinated with dock is really great to notice something very quickly. First I tried with an iPad in university and this was horrible. I sold it after 3 weeks. The Infinity is defintly better, but not what i expected to become. I hope that further Software Updates will fix this.
I don't want to be only negative: The micro HDMI is great. I used it several times. Also the possibility to plug in an usb - stick, or a micro sd card is very useful. The quality of the display is also very fine. Apps like dolphin browser, tune in radio ... are working very well. The killer feature against Apples iPad is the flash plattform.
If i have to say it in one sentence: It's to slow and has to much bugs for it's high price (in Germany it's 700€ ~ 905$)
No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
I would 100% absolutely buy the TF700 again. It's a great device, especially if you install a custom ROM (CleanROM *highly* recommended) as well as Clemsyn's OC kernel. Stock is not horrible, but CleanROM/Clemsyn combination is simply amazing. Makes the device crazy fast!
Of course, it's not a perfect device (there is no such thing), but it's by far the most versatile (keyboard dock, memory card slots, HDMI-out, etc), best looking (brushed aluminum), best performing, thinnest, lightest 10" Android tablet available right now.
The worst aspect of this tablet is the (lack of) quality control @ Asus. I would not recommend purchasing the tablet via mail order because of this. I would highly recommend that you purchase at Best Buy, so that you can exchange it if needed (in case you have a hardware issue). Best Buy has an excellent return policy.
I'd also recommend that you spend the extra $87 (with coupon) and purchase a 2-year Square Trade Accidental Coverage warranty. This way, even if you accidentally step on the device and break it, you are covered. Or, if you brick it while trying to install custom ROM's or something - you are covered. It gives you complete peace of mind for 2 years (at which point, you'll probably be upgrading again anyway).
Hope that helps you make your decision!
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no.
cleanROM + kernals and all that developer goodness is awesome, but ASUS should have gotten their product right before releasing it. build quality issues, crappy I/O, yada yada. that said, the IDEA of a tablet with these specs is awesome, and the potential was great. it's just implementation fail.
curious abt the Nexus 10. the resolution on that thing is ridiculous, wondering how the pixel-pushing is going to fare with that new SoC.
No... It's a lazy and very slow so I don't like it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtOqCQ_I4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Warranty invalidation for unlocking the bootloader is the only reason I wouldn't recommend it.
Yes I would, CleanRom has transformed this tablet into a beast and I have no regrets. Those kicking themselves for not getting an N10 will always be sore because technology isn't gonna stop improving just so you can feel better about your purchase. The Infinity has become my daily driver for all things related to the internet and gaming on the couch.
Yes I would, absolutely.
Sometimes, I'm thinking about the GNote 10.1, for example when I need to draw a graph on a PDF, but at the end it's very rare that I need it, my keyboard is so usefull : the battery, the keyboard itself, and to keep the tablet in a right angle in the bed, on the desk, during conferences with small places...
I had no issue with mine. Not at all, and I have locked bootloader (for now).
The best would be TF700 1080p screen with GNote 10.1 PLS technology (stylus and pressure), and Samsung multitasking-multiwindows system when it will be smooth.
I knew that it was overpriced and already outdated when I bought it, but I was too curious how it works with the dock, and the dock really makes it much more useful than a tablet alone (I had a TF101 without dock before).
1 GB RAM and the slow internal storage are not adequate for a high end tablet. And the software is very unstable and feels half-baked compared to a Linux or Windows desktop - even the Play store app crashed in the stock ROM (out of memory exception).
Do I regret that I bought it? No, money was not an issue, it is a nice toy and the screen is great. Would I buy it again? No. Let's see what 2013 brings.
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No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
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You must have a bad one. Mine is super smooth and fast!
So my answer is YES! Knowing what I know now, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. This thing is truly a beast. I never intentionally leave any of my devices stock...custom roms and kernels give you so much more. A Square Deal warranty is pretty cheap and gives great protection, so who cares about voiding the ASUS warranty?
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As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
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Yes, for sure I would.
It has Dev support and just started getting CM10 nightlies. Check out the Dev forum for more.
I think the stock ROM has some pretty useful tools. Splashtop, Asus cloud storage and even a tool for DNLA although MediaHouse is still the best for DNLA. I don't use the magazine, newspaper and book apps that came with it, but I guess they're useful for someone using them. The only real inclusion in the stock ROM that troubles some people is the stuff relating to the Asus Device Tracker, but you can search and read for more about that. I'm not worried about that given I have a SquareTrade warranty. So I'd get coverage regardless.
Yes, it can replace a notebook when you consider Splashtop. And if all you do is view media, read mail, edit a few files, browse the web and play games, yea it's all you need. If you need desktop specific applications, you can use them through Splashtop, WiFi connected desktop/laptop required .
No. You shouldn't have to root your device and install a custom OS to get decent performance out of a tablet. I am ok with it now that I have done these things, but the stock performance is unacceptable. I would definitely go with a different tablet if I had the choice.
If the stock performance had been good and custom OS's made the performance EVEN BETTER that would be ok in my book.
Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
Only the sometimes sluggish IO was a surprise, and not that big a deal to me. Otherwise, I knew the weaknesses when I bought it.
If 'the newest thing' is what you want, then yeah, you'll always be unhappy with what you've got. But if what you want is a little more specific and based on practicality, you can get a lot of life out of a good device, and the Infinity is a good device. I've had my TP2 for 3 years next month. I have no plans to upgrade that, and no device currently exists that I'd even consider to be an upgrade. I know what I want.
malos1984 said:
Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
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IMO I don't think this tablet would be the best for gaming until...when or if the Android game app market catches up to the hardware.
My wife plays the low end common games on this tab no troubles there.
I used to play Max Payne and Need for speed, those haven't been running too well lately for me.
The Tegra3 games are problematic for some and there isn't a large selection at this time.
Viewing movies in HD is fine for me...can't speak for others however.
Bottom line:
As the tablet stands now, I wouldn't invest the money to game on the Infinity if your Acer plays the intense games to your liking.
Best of luck with the tablet search.
jim
Ok, to make a long story short. I handed in my prime for RMA and got offered to alternatives , a TF700 or a samsung note 10.1.
Now , I had really ****ty experience with the prime. Primarily wi fi issues, but the performance in general was rubbish. With that said there were many aspects of the prime that l liked, Such as the keyboard and battery time.
My question is what are the known issues that with the note 10.1 and it's main drawbacks?
Keyboard isn't a must, nor is the pen, though l would love both! I could in short go for either.
It's kinda time urgent , I only have a few days to decide.
Help?
Thanks in advance!
The note is superior to tf700 in every way except screen resolution. I exchanged 3 tf700 then tried the note, the results is obvious. I only regret not taking the 3g version.
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Could you be a bit more detailed?
There are no drawbacks as the software is more refined in every way and the hardware is solid and future proof atleast for year or two
But there only difference is the body and the screen resolution
Apart from that it is better then prime or any other tablet in the market even N10 once it gets JB the reason being the world class developement done by Samsung on the OS
The screen on tf700 was deformed, not well fixed on edges. Less ram, only 1 gb, no dualband n Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth 4, low end internal storage, not as fluent as the note. Much better battery on the note. A lot of random reboots on stock tf700, none on the note.
I have changed the 3 Asus after using each one for a few days. I admit that the resolution was great, but the note is a better tablet overall.
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And the price to in India the prime is almost 200 dollars more expensive
the prime? Don't think it factors in as such into my question... Kinda keen on Tf 700 vs Note 10.1
I've read tons of reviews and they go both ways , but it seems the TF700 comes ahead a lot of the time. That's the confusing part. I've tested both in the store, with no clear winner. Screen on Tf is great and they both felt snappy. The pen on the Samsung was fun to use and accurate, but testet a few pens on the transformer and they were pretty good as well. Big issue is 1 gb DDR3 vs 2GB ddr2 , and Tegra vs Exynos. Kinda a bummer considering games and certain apps are tegra focused .
But the old Prime is still in the back of my mind, I\O performance etc...
BUT A BIG DRAW BACK WITH SAMSUNG, I can't plug in a HDMI and USB cable at the same time... kinda need it from time to time ( external drive and HDMI, or game controller and HDMI or...)
I think almost everyone that owns a Note 10.1 went through the same decision. And newer owners are also factoring in the Nexus 10. Obviously the people in this forum chose the Note. You'd get other opinions from forums dedicated to those devices and I suggest you ask and look in those too.
For me, the decision was easy. I dd look at the Asus forums as well as here. In the Asus forums there are tons of post of people having problems. Granted, people with problems tend to find forums. But why do you not see people here posting about problems? The few you do see are mostly folks that tried to either root or flash their units and didn't read the instructions fully. Sure you'll find an occasional legit problem post, but they are so few and far between that it's an effort to find them. That's not the case in the Asus forums.
I spent a lot of money for the Note 10.1. I bought it before any of the recent price drops. I have no buyers remorse at all.
Well good to know. I've posted a similar thread in the ASUS forum just in case, but response has been limited. The big issue l have with the Samsung is lack of ports and weaker battery compared to the ASUS. wouldn't mind a keyboard, but seen that there are dozens of keyboard folios and so on....but again one comes to the issue of battery being drained ( in this case by the bluetooth)
I'm on the fence , 50-50 so that's why I was looking for personal experience with the unit(s). I kinda missed the mark with the Prime , so don't want to mess up again.
BTW I see it mentioned a dozen places, how is the support from Samsung, ie updates etc....?
I owed a prime and had all the bad experiences. I read and read before getting another tablet and everything pointed at the infinity, so I got one. Had it a little over a week and noticed lag from time to time, but nothing major, until I bought the new need for speed... geez, it's unplayable on the infinity. I pulled it up on my note 2 and its flying. So I returned it and got the note 10.1. It flies! The screen is the only advantage the infinity have
I've owned the Transformer Prime for almost a year and I had the Transformer Infinity for about a month before I traded it for a Galaxy Note 10.1.
The memory issues with the transformers is really bad, when you use the browser it constantly hangs and gives ANRs (App not responding). It is basically unusable in the browser. I had the same problem with the Prime and the Infinity, it happens more often when you have multiple apps running.
I debated it for a long time because I really wanted the high resolution, but once I got the Note 10.1 I knew within a day that I made the right choice. Everything works as it should, everything is faster and smoother, graphics intensive games like N.O.V.A. and Dead Trigger actually run better (N.O.V.A was unplayable on the Infinity because it lagged so much). The screen isn't as good, but it isn't worth the issues you have to deal with on the Transformer line.
I used the keyboard dock on the Infinity and loved taking notes in school with it, but since I got the Note 10.1 I started taking notes with the S-Pen and I carry a bluetooth keyboard just in case I need it. I've liked taking notes with the S-Pen so much that I never even use the keyboard anymore.
As a previous prime owner of 8 months, id have to say i have no regrets
What i miss
-usb slot
-full sd slot
-hdmi
-extra battery
What i dont miss
-anr
-wifi/bluetooth issues
-slow playstore install/uninstall
-the cheap buttons on keyboard(one snapped off, too easilly)
The things i wish the note has but doesnt
-a decent port connected keyboard with, hdmi, usb, sd card
The comprimises
-usb/sd card adapter
-allcast(when sammy finally gets its finger out its bum).......stream game over wifi, while using bluetooth gamepad/keyboard/mouse
As a prevoius prime owner yourself, i think your in a position to appreciate this phrase "it just works"......and thats the main thing that makes the things ive lost bearable, trust me its a relief......another thing i like is that it feels more sturdy,
If you can find a tf700 without daily issues, then i'd say go for that, but me i wont trust their quality control on the tablet front for a while
On a side note, battery on the note, even without the extra battery is commendable..........at least 10h constant use on avarage......thats brightness dim, powersave on......by the way powersave is pretty impressive to (limit to1000mhz), no hiccups.
Just to reiterate what banderos101 said,
I'm a former TF101 owner (the original transformer from asus), and I miss the same things he misses. In addition, my transformer often had weird stutterings that may or may not have been associated with the roms I used on it (but it had them on stock too before I rooted and flashed custom roms).
That said, I don't know much about the TF700, but you probably should pick it based on what your primary usage will be. I got the Note instead of another transformer tablet because I take notes using a pen (physics is hard to type notes for) and because it has 2gb RAM. Also, the screen resolution doesn't matter to me much because it didn't put me in shock and awe when I used my friends' iPad retinas and TF700's, but maybe that's because I'm nearsighted.
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Well good to know. I've posted a similar thread in the ASUS forum just in case, but response has been limited. The big issue l have with the Samsung is lack of ports and weaker battery compared to the ASUS. wouldn't mind a keyboard, but seen that there are dozens of keyboard folios and so on....but again one comes to the issue of battery being drained ( in this case by the bluetooth)
I'm on the fence , 50-50 so that's why I was looking for personal experience with the unit(s). I kinda missed the mark with the Prime , so don't want to mess up again.
BTW I see it mentioned a dozen places, how is the support from Samsung, ie updates etc....?
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I'll come at this from a completely different perspective from everyone on this thread. I have an Acer A500. Had it for a few years. Sunday night, my wonderful children decided I needed a new tablet so they dropped my acer out of the car. Off to the store! LOL! I'm not dedicated to any brand at all. I want cheap and as much bang for the buck as I can get. My 2 contenders were the same as yours. Asus Infinity vs Samsung Note. The real question you have to ask is what do you really want the tablet for? What do you expect to get out of the experience? No matter what you read here, the Asus is a better tablet than the Samsung. It has a visibly better screen. It has more storage for the dollar. IE, the 32gb Asus is the same price as the 16GB Samsung. The processor is slightly faster, but the Asus has a 5th independent low power processor that allows it to run much less power therefore slightly longer battery in real world. Average test is about 8 hours for the Samsung, 10 for the Asus.
The Asus also allows you to add the keyboard with an additional battery in the keyboard as well as full sized USB ports etc. So if you are looking for a laptop replacement, it's hard to beat. Now, you're probably asking, why am I putting all this in the Samsung thread?
I bought the Samsung. Why? Because the #1 thing I need from my tablet is the ability to take handwritten notes in meetings and it has to be easy and fast. Bottom line is, the digitizer system on the Note is unbeatable. Period. The Asus can't touch it. The Note is a great screen versus an amazing screen. It's nearly as fast processor wise, 1.4GHz vs 1.6GHz. So while the Asus in my mind is a better tablet, the Samsung Note is better for what I need. And by better I mean, lightyears better. There isn't a tablet on the market that can touch the Note for writing. It is truly paper and pencil good. But if you don't care about that, the Asus is a little better in a lot of ways.
I get 14 hours on the note on regular use, the record being 16 (talking about screen+ WiFi active, not about stand-by). With tf700 i had 11 hours with the first one, the other 2 devices never more than 8 hours (all without the dock, i did not buy one).
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I'll come at this from a completely different perspective from everyone on this thread. I have an Acer A500. Had it for a few years. Sunday night, my wonderful children decided I needed a new tablet so they dropped my acer out of the car. Off to the store! LOL! I'm not dedicated to any brand at all. I want cheap and as much bang for the buck as I can get. My 2 contenders were the same as yours. Asus Infinity vs Samsung Note. The real question you have to ask is what do you really want the tablet for? What do you expect to get out of the experience? No matter what you read here, the Asus is a better tablet than the Samsung. It has a visibly better screen. It has more storage for the dollar. IE, the 32gb Asus is the same price as the 16GB Samsung. The processor is slightly faster, but the Asus has a 5th independent low power processor that allows it to run much less power therefore slightly longer battery in real world. Average test is about 8 hours for the Samsung, 10 for the Asus.
The Asus also allows you to add the keyboard with an additional battery in the keyboard as well as full sized USB ports etc. So if you are looking for a laptop replacement, it's hard to beat. Now, you're probably asking, why am I putting all this in the Samsung thread?
I bought the Samsung. Why? Because the #1 thing I need from my tablet is the ability to take handwritten notes in meetings and it has to be easy and fast. Bottom line is, the digitizer system on the Note is unbeatable. Period. The Asus can't touch it. The Note is a great screen versus an amazing screen. It's nearly as fast processor wise, 1.4GHz vs 1.6GHz. So while the Asus in my mind is a better tablet, the Samsung Note is better for what I need. And by better I mean, lightyears better. There isn't a tablet on the market that can touch the Note for writing. It is truly paper and pencil good. But if you don't care about that, the Asus is a little better in a lot of ways.
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Thanks for your post, it's nice to "hear" a slightly different approach. The problem in my case is that I'm kinda looking for the Jack of all trades , pref master of all
The pen idea is really tempting and l hear people praising it to high heaven. I have an old Lenovo x 201 Tablet and loved it for years, but it's kinda big and cumbersome to lob around for short trips and meetings / classes .
I'm looking for something that can at the very least cover these areas:
Media machine ( connected to a screen)
Gaming
Productivity (notes in class+ I work as an IT consultant so quick notes at work etc. In this case both have almost equal merit. pen vs keyboard )
Stable ( regular updates)
Connectivity ( ports and connections)
Good performance
HAS TO HAVE GOOD BATTERY ( average use wifi + bluetooth + browsing and note taking + maybe a short vid. here and there)
What l don't really care about
Screen rez.
Build materials ( ok, don't want it China cheap, but don't need super hyper space age Unobtanium)
Still trying to narrow down everything l need it for.
I know I want my cake and eat it too, but let's be honest, why have the cake if you can't eat it??
To be honest that was the note 10.1 out of the box... It really doesn't need constant updates because it just works how its supposed too... I've never owned an Asus tablet but wouldn't constant updates mean it has constant problems that are trying to be fixed?
Gaming is fine, you can run the chainfire 3d app for tegra games, I run with sonic and that works fine and a few other games (NFS most wanted, GTA3, Dungeon Hunters 3 and Assassins creed 3) and have no problem...
Notes are easy to take using the pen, think back to high school with a folder, about the same size and not that heavy.
You can get an adaptor for usb connectivity - Just cant use an HDD as it requires too much power but a thumb drive works fine (mines 32gb), I have a 64gb sd card installed and I got the 32gb 3g version, forgot phone, no problem...
Performance is fine, there's no problem and 2gb of RAM makes it snappy - even when you fill it with stuff, I have around 4gb left internally and about 2gb on the 64gb sd card - no lag or stutter...
There is a HDMI adaptor you can get but haven't tried it. If you have a smart tv from 2012 then you can share your screen wirelessly and you can get the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv set. For older versions of TV sets freeing up your usb port you can use the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv instead of the MHL Adaptor.
Screen resolution is fine for what I need, it plays 720P movies very well and I don't care that I can't magnify the screen into infinity when viewing pics or text...
I have had no problem with build quality, mind you most people I know seem to put it into a folder for protection - don't use anything with magnets as it might affect the wacom digitiser.
The S-pen makes it easy to enter notes or data, its a shame that Samsung used a little known format for s-notes but there's ways around that too...
Battery life is awesome, I use it 8 hours a day watching movies, surfing the web, listening to music, writing, taking notes and making calls and still have around 20-25% at the end of the day...
Overall I find it fine for what I use it for, the new JB update makes it so much better....
At the end of the day you will make your decision, if you live in America you might be able to change that decision, but I like my note 10.1. It is the only tab out there that allowed me to make phone calls and that's what pushed it over the edge for me.. That and the bluetooth stylus that doubles as a handset.... :laugh:
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To be honest that was the note 10.1 out of the box... It really doesn't need constant updates because it just works how its supposed too... I've never owned an Asus tablet but wouldn't constant updates mean it has constant problems that are trying to be fixed?
Gaming is fine, you can run the chainfire 3d app for tegra games, I run with sonic and that works fine and a few other games (NFS most wanted, GTA3, Dungeon Hunters 3 and Assassins creed 3) and have no problem...
Notes are easy to take using the pen, think back to high school with a folder, about the same size and not that heavy.
You can get an adaptor for usb connectivity - Just cant use an HDD as it requires too much power but a thumb drive works fine (mines 32gb), I have a 64gb sd card installed and I got the 32gb 3g version, forgot phone, no problem...
Performance is fine, there's no problem and 2gb of RAM makes it snappy - even when you fill it with stuff, I have around 4gb left internally and about 2gb on the 64gb sd card - no lag or stutter...
There is a HDMI adaptor you can get but haven't tried it. If you have a smart tv from 2012 then you can share your screen wirelessly and you can get the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv set. For older versions of TV sets freeing up your usb port you can use the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv instead of the MHL Adaptor.
Screen resolution is fine for what I need, it plays 720P movies very well and I don't care that I can't magnify the screen into infinity when viewing pics or text...
I have had no problem with build quality, mind you most people I know seem to put it into a folder for protection - don't use anything with magnets as it might affect the wacom digitiser.
The S-pen makes it easy to enter notes or data, its a shame that Samsung used a little known format for s-notes but there's ways around that too...
Battery life is awesome, I use it 8 hours a day watching movies, surfing the web, listening to music, writing, taking notes and making calls and still have around 20-25% at the end of the day...
Overall I find it fine for what I use it for, the new JB update makes it so much better....
At the end of the day you will make your decision, if you live in America you might be able to change that decision, but I like my note 10.1. It is the only tab out there that allowed me to make phone calls and that's what pushed it over the edge for me.. That and the bluetooth stylus that doubles as a handset.... :laugh:
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Can you tell me more about the wireless HDMI solution. One of the BIG issues I have with the note is the fact that it's lacking ports and there aren't any docking stations etc with both hdmi and usb . I have several really good LED TV's at home , but non have wireless DLNA or similar setups ( have to buy extra plugs etc) so a HDMI port would have been great...
Another issue is the fact that there seems to be an increase in TEGRA optimized games... somthing that's a major bummer since l actually like using the tab as a mini game console .
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I get 14 hours on the note on regular use, the record being 16 (talking about screen+ WiFi active, not about stand-by). With tf700 i had 11 hours with the first one, the other 2 devices never more than 8 hours (all without the dock, i did not buy one).
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Is that 14h out of the box, or have you done some tinkering with it?
For the games run chainfire 3d... You can then run the tegra games with no problem...
Allshare cast dongle or Allshare cast hub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003478 & http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VO7MY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00