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Question for those who use Microsoft My Phone.
I currently use My Phone to sync Contacts and Text Messages on my WM 6.5 phone. When I get my WP7 device will I be able to sync those Contacts and Text Messages over? Or will I need to import contacts from my SIM card?
No - Apparently MyPhone is not supported in WP7 and can't be accessed by the phone. They want everything to be done via Windows Live or Exchange
I use MyPhone too for my 6.5 more as just online backup but it's nice to have txts etc saved out, plus I use SPB backup too for which at the moment there is no WP7 alternative.
kin studio like feature will be added later on to the web portal.
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kin studio like feature will be added later on to the web portal.
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So what should a user do?
When we have all the contacts and calendar synced with MyPhone,
how can we port it to WP7??
doministry said:
So what should a user do?
When we have all the contacts and calendar synced with MyPhone,
how can we port it to WP7??
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sync phone with an exchange server if one has access to it otherwise install outlook with hotmail connector, sync contacts and calender from phone into hotmail on outlook which will sync the same info with hotmail on the web...
connect wp7 with hotmail via EOAS or pop and that will sync the contacts and calenders...
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sync phone with an exchange server if one has access to it otherwise install outlook with hotmail connector, sync contacts and calender from phone into hotmail on outlook which will sync the same info with hotmail on the web...
connect wp7 with hotmail via EOAS or pop and that will sync the contacts and calenders...
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What a disaster. Instead of easy solution like MyPhone
one has to **** around with so many steps!!!!
And this is user friendly??!! This is so freaking complicated.
WP7 is NOT USER FRIENDLY.
doministry said:
What a disaster. Instead of easy solution like MyPhone
one has to **** around with so many steps!!!!
And this is user friendly??!! This is so freaking complicated.
WP7 is NOT USER FRIENDLY.
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that was an alternative. like I said earlier, kin studio like features which store contacts, text messages etc on the cloud will be added later to devices.live.com website.
not everyone stores their contacts and text messages on myphone.
ps - you can always import your contacts to your sim card and then export it to wp7's internal memory too...
I'm using MyPhone too as I don't have an exchange account, it's a shame that feature isn't available on day one but hopefully it will come with the January update.
powersquad said:
that was an alternative. like I said earlier, kin studio like features which store contacts, text messages etc on the cloud will be added later to devices.live.com website.
not everyone stores their contacts and text messages on myphone.
ps - you can always import your contacts to your sim card and then export it to wp7's internal memory too...
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It's not alternative. It's the only choice.
I'm talking about transferring data from one MS device to another,
and it's simply screwed, opposed to the solution which was just available.
And don't be silly.
You know that transferring 1500 contacts with multiple data is impossible to transfer
through SIM.
Hello Microsoft, it's 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
doministry said:
It's not alternative. It's the only choice.
I'm talking about transferring data from one MS device to another,
and it's simply screwed, opposed to the solution which was just available.
And don't be silly.
You know that transferring 1500 contacts with multiple data is impossible to transfer
through SIM.
Hello Microsoft, it's 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In the same boat fella. I have a possible solution to this problem but to be honest it's not something that many people will be able to do. Plus I haven't implemented it yet and won't get a chance till next week now.
For the moment, what I have done is use the Outlook connector and got the contacts and calender into my live account. I've lost some data (some pretty important) and it doesn't sync categories which I make extensive use of, but it's there for the moment. It will do for a short time when I get my phone from Wed.
Sorry but that is all I can suggest for the moment. IMO they screwed this up royally
I have an exchange account, but I purposely don't sync my personal contacts with my business contacts. This sucks because MyPhone is in the "cloud" and is a M$ product, but it doesn't work with their newest phone? What crap.
Just found this link on Microsoft website about the same issue. Straight from a MS employee, not compatible with WP7
what?
i asked that question a few weeks ago and someone mentioned myphone
now it's not compatible?
how am i going to transfer 500+ contacts and almost 10000 sms messages to the new phone???
WP7 might have My Phone connectivity after all.
Now that T-Mobile USA has posted more details about the device on their site, see this under "Features":
Microsoft My Phone Service
Connect your phone to the Web and simplify your life. With Microsoft My Phone service you can back up and access your contacts and text messages, share photos on your favorite social networking sites, and even locate your phone if it gets lost.
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So for you who plan to move to WP7 (I'll stick with 6.5.x personally) there may be hope .
You are all making assumptions based on mis-reported facts. Windows Phone 7 does have "My Phone," however it is now integrated into the OS. You can easily transfer your contacts, calendar, and e-mail by connecting your old Windows Mobile device to sync with Gmail or Hotmail, then connect your new Windows Phone 7 device to sync and it will download everything from one of those services. After that, you're free to disconnect Windows Phone 7 from the service if you don't want it anymore and your contacts and calendar will stay. (For obvious reasons, e-mail requires maintaining an account with somebody.)
As far as text messages, there is no migration path from 6.x to 7, as is the same when upgrading iPhone devices or just about any other platform. However, I think you will all find that Microsoft's implementation of MyPhone on Windows Phone 7 is still better than MobileMe. Not only is it free, but its feature-set (like integrating SkyDrive photos with the locally-stored photos together into the Pictures hub) is much better than the separate app silos Apple has created. Windows Phone 7 isn't perfect, but IMO it's a pretty good version 1 product considering that they've started over from scratch and the competition has had a 2-3 year head start.
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You are all making assumptions based on mis-reported facts. Windows Phone 7 does have "My Phone," however it is now integrated into the OS. You can easily transfer your contacts, calendar, and e-mail by connecting your old Windows Mobile device to sync with Gmail or Hotmail, then connect your new Windows Phone 7 device to sync and it will download everything from one of those services. After that, you're free to disconnect Windows Phone 7 from the service if you don't want it anymore and your contacts and calendar will stay. (For obvious reasons, e-mail requires maintaining an account with somebody.)
As far as text messages, there is no migration path from 6.x to 7, as is the same when upgrading iPhone devices or just about any other platform. However, I think you will all find that Microsoft's implementation of MyPhone on Windows Phone 7 is still better than MobileMe. Not only is it free, but its feature-set (like integrating SkyDrive photos with the locally-stored photos together into the Pictures hub) is much better than the separate app silos Apple has created. Windows Phone 7 isn't perfect, but IMO it's a pretty good version 1 product considering that they've started over from scratch and the competition has had a 2-3 year head start.
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Hey, wake up.
So WP7 HAS NO MYPHONE.
MyPhone was just launched year ago to TO HELP EASILY BACKUP AND RESTORE
in the cloud all of the data you need. So I could switch my device every week and still have all I need with me with one ****ing click. It was meant to be this way.
And now MS launches new platform and instead of enjoying great solutions,
opposite to all advertised easyness and "it just works"
you have to sync everything through the crappy few steps process!!!!
Plus all the smses are gone, all tasks and notes are gone!!!
That's a DUMBASS implementation. Stupid and completely brainless.
So WP7 looks like a lie?
With this attitude I hope they will not succeed.
Or wake up soon.
No there's no excuse for such things anymore.
It's 2010. They've had 10 years for that.
And I don't care for a second how much time they've spent on it.
Crap is crap.
MyPhone was great and worked well. One of the great ideas MS had recently.
So why this great solution has not been implemented into WP7 ??????
I don't understand.
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MyPhone was great and worked well. One of the great ideas MS had recently.
So why this great solution has not been implemented into WP7 ??????
I don't understand.
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Because of their stupid policies.
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You are all making assumptions based on mis-reported facts. Windows Phone 7 does have "My Phone," however it is now integrated into the OS.
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It is not the same "my phone" as we are talking about here. I won't be able to transfer my text messages from the my phone service. I have no issues with transferring contacts, etc as that is easy.
righto.....so from my understanding exchange 2010 supports SMS's.
Is there a way to import the SMS from Microsoft my Phone?
Or is it a case of needing to get the SMS's sync'd from my 6.5 device to my Exchange and then sync them back to the WP7 device?
Customers have been experiencing problems about sync between Windows Phone 7 and Microsoft Outlook. Many solutions are out there but our customers are asking for easier to use information. I wanted to share out this Guided Walkthrough. It has step by step instructions and hopefully customers will find this a more user friendly experienceď. I hope people find this to be helpful. (Discl: I sit on a Microsoft team)
//bit.ly/hQPy3F
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Customers have been experiencing problems about sync between Windows Phone 7 and Microsoft Outlook. Many solutions are out there but our customers are asking for easier to use information. I wanted to share out this Guided Walkthrough. It has step by step instructions and hopefully customers will find this a more user friendly experienceď. I hope people find this to be helpful. (Discl: I sit on a Microsoft team)
//bit.ly/hQPy3F
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thanks, went through this and stumbled at the point where you copy your Outlook Main calendar into the WL account. You could also tell Outlook to only use your WL calendar. Of course this won't get you the already populated data into the WL calendar but it will sync anything you put into the Outlook calendar as well (which is now your WL calendar). In our case we have Rainlendar desktop calendar connected to Outlook. Any changes we make to the Rainlendar calendar will automatically show up on Phone.
On the other side
Any hope of a solution that doesn't going through a third party online service? Trying to abide by company security policies which means Outlook data goes from your desktop to your phone or it does go at all. And I can't connect straight to the server from my phone. All I want is my calendar.
hold on...
crazy ass idea. I know squat about hardware, so tell me quickly this won't work. I actually haven't purchased a new WinPho 7 yet. Want to. Calendar syncing is the only hold up. Are SIM cards backwards compatible? I've got an HTC Fuze. Syncing my calendar there is no issue. So is it possible to sync my calendar there to that SIM card and then move the card to the WP7 device and import the calendar entries there?
As i'm not fighting with outlook, I saved all my contacts to my SIM card on my old phone. Is there any way to get them off the SIM card into the new phone (dell venue pro)
In the people hub, press and hold on the word "people" at the top, go into settings
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slight22 said:
As i'm not fighting with outlook, I saved all my contacts to my SIM card on my old phone. Is there any way to get them off the SIM card into the new phone (dell venue pro)
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when in the pepole hub you will have an option of importing to phone from your sim card, shuldent be to hard from there
Thanks guys.
Simple Solution
Make WP7 and Outlook sync directly. The cloud is fine but for those of us who want to keep out data close at hand, there is not solution.
Of all the WM 6.5 things most of us miss the most is the direct sync via USB or BT wireless of contacts, calendars, tasks; etc.
Please tell me a direct simple solution for this will be available; either before mango or in Mango. I don't want to hear that it won't be available at all.
Its ridiculous, what MS are doing have done! Any small business has been seriously affected by this, (If you used 6.5>)
I am still surprised at how set on the fact they are on the Cloud! Technology is brilliant, but used properly. MS are running along with eyes closed looking at Google and Apple every now and again, and then closing their eyes!
The WP7 would be by far the most efficient, in both power and usability, phone out there if they could rectify such a simple problem...
Will
taxim said:
Please tell me a direct simple solution for this will be available; either before mango or in Mango. I don't want to hear that it won't be available at all.
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Mmmmm - Sorry - it won't be available. Undoubtedly, it will be available through XDA.
Jan Roelof
I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve
Your media can all be transferred using Zune, direct from your computer, wired or over WiFi (after a wired sync you can set the phone to automatically sync when it's plugged in and doing nothing)
Regarding Outlook, I don't know of a single person that doesn't use Exchange or Google, both of which can be used to synchronise mail, calendar, contacts and i believe tasks between computer and mobile device. This is so much more advantageous than 'direct by wire' syncing that I'm surprised you are that concerned. If anything it's good practice to have a backup of these things...
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I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve
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yea nothing wrong with using the cloud at all. there's also even a hotmail-outlook connector, you are not being "forced" to use hotmail at all ur more than welcome to use ur exchange email to sync ur contacts but u do need a live ID to use the marketplace and Zune. android has this similar practice where u need a Gmail account to even be able to use it period. MS is not going to spy on ur emails or call ur contacts and ur information isn't any less safe on the cloud than it is on ur PC.
Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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this is totally incorrect! on wp7 u can add as many exchange accounts as u want and it will sync them and keep them updated vs on wm6.5 and android u can have one, and those contacts that aren't on exchange u can easily add them or import them it is no big deal at all. all the calendars are also updated, on my arrive with the mango beta I have 2 live accounts setup and my Facebook account and it syncs ALL my appointments accordingly to which account they originated from. Zune does not sync any of this, Zune only syncs pictures,videos and music.
Forgive me, but reading that sounds like you haven't actually used the software.
Zune only deals with multimedia and updates - nothing to do with calendars, contacts, or mail.
You can have as many accounts as you like on the phone, they ALL synchronise everything, and in the calendar app every accounts' calendar appears and has a different colour attached to it (mine, for example, highlights Exchange in red, Google in Blue, and Facebook in green, and they all appear together so I know when I'm actually available)
I don't understand how having a thousand contacts is a problem? You can sync contacts from Google, Exchange, or Windows Live into Outlook, then it's a case of using that most amazing of things as Copy and Paste, then the cloud takes care of your syncing.
Travelling a lot, it makes sense to me to just let the phone deal with the sync - when something changes, it gets pushed to the phone automatically, and if you change something on the phone it's pushed to the cloud, where your computer picks it up automatically.
You sound like the perfect example of somebody who could benefit hugely from a push-sync service but doesn't want to...sorry to be frank, but that's just the way it seems to me...
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Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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I'm in the same boat sort of. I don't use Exchange, just MS Office an Outlook for my schedule and contacts. I only just got my first WP7 phone and previously I was a recent WM user migrating from my Axim x51v. Been using a PDA since WM2003. I really find it hard to fathom why MS would make it so that their products can't talk to each other. I've installed the connecter and still couldn't get it to sync up to Hotmail very easily. I've got my contacts in teh phone but still can't get my calender to move over.
My suggestion to you John would be to get yourself a Google account, which you can sync using the Exchange protocol into Outlook, and which the phone can sync automatically. That's probably the easiest way of doing things.
Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.
My god where do you work!?
Unfortunately it would appear the draconian restrictions in your workplace are letting you down - neither WP7 or Android are designed to synchronise PIM data over USB. HTC have bodged together a not-fantastic workaround for Android which is probably your only choice...
Edit: By connect, what do you mean? Obviously any phone can connect, just not necessarily sync.
I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!
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I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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+1 - couldn't agree more. These phones are made almost entirely for the internet.
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney
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Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney
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alot of workplaces support exchange server synching of contacts and the like, there's also a hotmail-outlook connector that will sync content back n forth accordingly,so I didn't miss anything.
really not picking an arguement - not sure if you are.
However for information sake only, for others that might read this thread, using hotmail connector means uploading and downloading all the info via Microsoft servers, and the other option of microsoft exchange, well not all firms use exchange.
Therefore if a company does not agree to one of these methods it means Windows Phone 7 is not an option
Barney
Here's my set-up:
Hotmail account (had for "ever") that I use to access MS services such as XBox Live, Skydrive, etc. --- this has become my centralized sync point just because it was empty and is well integrated
Personal domain accounts hosted with Google Apps --- these all sync to my WP7 phone
Various Gmail accounts --- again, all synced to my WP7 phone
Yahoo account --- again, synced to my WP7
Work calendar (not interested in getting e-mails) --- using Google Sync, my work calendar is pushed to one of my Gmail accounts.....so all of my appointments appear on my phone (http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/)
Facebook --- synced as well.
All total, I have 10 accounts listed in the settings. All of them sync flawlessly. All of my information is stored where I want it and blended on my phone. Contacts from my personal domain that are related to side business are available on my phone but aren't stored on my hotmail account. Contacts in Yahoo don't show up in my side-business e-mail accounts. Etc. The phone is the central hub, but information is still segmented just how I want it. When a contact spans accounts, I've linked them with that feature and all of the information shows up under one entry. I can pick home or mobile or work related info even though each piece is from a different account.
And when Mango is released and I have a single inbox, the phone will become even more of a central hub to everything.
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Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
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I'm unsure of exactly why you're saying Android and iOS don't sync over the cloud. Neither of them have a method of syncing ONLY over USB.
For whatever reasons, you are unhappy with WP7, and it's likely just not the right solution for you. With that being said, why bother coming back to this thread unless you have a specific need to argue?
We get it. You feel that WP7 doesn't work for you. If there is a problem with the functionality or design, take that up with MS, and not with a fan board.
If you're going to argue semantics like amount of WM6.5 devices sold over WP7, at least have the courtesy to link your information. I'm going to continue to not take you or your concerns seriously until you actually understand how all of the major mobile OS devices actually sync.
Tell your IT department to get out of a cave and update their software solutions. Any new-ish version of Exchange Server will properly support OTA sync'ing of contacts.
Other than that, have fun in Apple land.
Actually I didn't say that iphone and Adnroid don't sync over the cloud, but you can do both therefore chosing to sync directly with outlook if you wish. Considering the first post on this thread, i.e. the point of the thread, is about this issue, I believe my posts have been on topic. Sorry if that has bothered you but believe it or not this is a major issue affecting many users out there.
Here are a couple of links to an article regarding windows mobile 6.5 outselling windows phone 7 during the winter
http://www.mobot.net/windows-mobile-outselling-windows-phone-7-23633
http://wmpoweruser.com/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-handsets-sold-to-customers-in-q1-2011/
By the way I didn't participate in this thread to argue, my original post is below
Barneyabz said:
Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.
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I participated precisely because I like windows operating systems and was looking for help in getting it do what I want it to do, like a number of other posters on this thread. Instead I got a bunch of emails justifying what Microsoft have done rather then answering the post - why?
Now have carefully read this post and do believe that there is nothing wrong in it, its in the spirit of the board, which by the way I have been a member of for a long time, and will continue to be.
This will be my last post on this thread unless there is something posted relevant to my (and the starter of the thread) original question.
Folks,
Thanks for all your opinions.
It seems that I am not alone. Please refer to the 53 pages of complaint to MS regarding Win 7's inability to sync with Outlook in the way that some of us need to work:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2?page=50&tm=1312012136534
There is a 1000 contact limit to the number of contacts on HotMail. Tasks and notes are not sync'ed. I have no interest in exposing my data to the MS cloud when they have not published a security risk assessment and take no responsibility for data in their care.
I travel internationally; all the time. Having my phone sync automatically to get e-mail and updates costs me hundreds of dollars a month. Previously I could turn off data roaming and update my phone at night in my hotel with a cable.
I bought the HTC 7 Pro as the successor to my MDA Vario 5 (Touch Pro 2). After a frustrating week I have gone back to the Touch Pro 2 because WM6.5 works the way that I do.
My post was not meant to be an MS-bashing session. I was trying to understand and solve some major shortcomings with my new phone that affect the way I work.
So. I've got this new phone. The HTC 7 Pro hardware is quite nice now that I've upgraded the microSD card. Anybody know how to switch over to Android or back to WM6.5?
--Steve
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Yes, you need to install Zune.
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Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Seriously i don't know what this guy is talking about.
SO I have Outlook 2003 with all my contacts and appointments in it. This was easy to sync with my old MDA.
Now with the new WP7 this function is nowhere to find. All what opens is Zune an this does not sync anything from outlook in any way.
It just doesn't sync with Outlook in a normal way.
Zune doesn't do it (still!). Apparently this simpe task was to difficult to implement it on WP7, or rather MS wanted to force you to use cloud.
The only choice you have to Sync PC/Outlook and WP7 phone
is to get Hotmail plugin in the Office,
this way you can sync Calendar and Contacts, via data plan/wifi.
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For me, the inability to sync directly with a PC is the one and only deal breaker. My calendar, contacts, etc. are all housed in Outlook at work and my company blocks all access to third-party email systems, making syncing the "Windows Phone" way completely impossible.
I tried extracting the calendar and contacts into data files, importing them into Gmail, and then syncing with the Quantum that I picked up on Ebay, and it was an epic fail! Many contacts were missing their contact names and recurring appointments were converted into individual appointments, which would make rescheduling those appointments a *HUGE* P.I.T.A.!!! They never should have removed that ability to sync with a PC completely.
In less than 2 days, I couldn't wait to switch back to using my Rhodium full time. Sure, I miss the coolness factor of the new bells and whistles in Windows Phone, but I am confident that I can trust that my data is always up to date and complete in my Windows Mobile phone.
Debbie
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inteller said:
that's pretty funny because my company "blocks anything but Blackberry" but all I had to do is put in my credentials for the exchange account and autodiscovery grabbed everything and sync'd it to the phone. Did you even try that? Granted your company needs to be in the modern era and not stuck onsomething like Exchange 2003.
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My company will not disclose the Exchange server (yes, we're on 2003) credentials to anyone, because they do not want anyone accessing the server with an unauthorized personal device. If they want you to have access to the servers for business purposes, they will only allow it via a company-provided Blackberry or laptop computer. The only thing I am able to do is sync my calendar, contacts, task list, and notes with my Rhodium via ActiveSync. I do not send/receive company email via my Rhodium.
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go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.
scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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dkp1977 said:
Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.
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Yes, exactly! It still baffles me as to why MS would remove that option entirely. They rewrote the mobile OS completely to compete with Android and iPhone, but yet they limit you to syncing your data the same way that the competitors do? Why not go the extra step and allow your customers to choose their sync method, so as to not completely alienate your current users?
As it is, my home PC is Vista, while my work PC is XP, so syncing with 2 PCs is impossible. ActiveSync and Device Center conflict with each other so badly, that I can't even sync my data at work, sync it at home, and then sync my home Outlook with the web services, so that I can then sync with a WP7 device. Hell, I'd carry my Rhodium around with me (without the SIM card), just for syncing purposes, if I could do that!
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are, you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
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2003...time to upgrade to another company.
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Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
Debbie
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DebbieNY13 said:
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are and you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
Debbie
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I've read that somewhere too. But it wasn't really specific. Could mean you can only sync media and probably documents like you used to back in the days of Windows Mobile. But I agree that adding cable sync for Outlook for those who can't use cloud services or Exchange or simply don't want to would set Windows Phone a little more apart from its competitors.
This can't be correct, can it?
Basically, I use Onenote on my laptop for school, and sync it to my desktop and the cloud.
I've had my Lumia 710 for all of a few days only, and it's running out of space (essentially it has just about completely) because it seems to be syncing absolutely everything to it.
Most of my notes in Onenote I would never want to view on the phone anyways. I just want my basic to-do list folder which is tiny, and a homework list folder, which is also tiny. None of my handwritten notes are visible on the phone anyways, but it seems to sync them regardless.
I contacted Microsoft Office support and this is what they said (The names are edited of course, as I've paid for my copies of Office and logged in using my real name/account):
Please wait for an agent to respond. You are currently '1' in the queue.
Privacy Statement
You are now chatting with 'M$'.
bladebarrier: Hello.
M$: Welcome to Microsoft Customer Service Chat. Please give me a moment to review your question. Is that okay, bladebarrier?
bladebarrier: Sure thing. Take your time.
M$: Thank you for patiently waiting. In relation to your concern, please note that synchronizing is a feature of the phone. For this one, it's best that you contact the manufacturer of your phone that can assist you on how you can manage the files to be synchronized to save storage.
M$: Ma I ask for the brand of your phone?
bladebarrier: It's a Nokia Lumia 710.
M$: I see. Please contact Nokia Lumia Support for further assistance in managing the files. I appreciate your patience and understanding.
M$: Is there anything else I can assist you with/
bladebarrier: I don't even have Nokia software installed though. It's purely that Office is syncing everything based on my windows live account.
bladebarrier: I just need it to sync specific Onenote folders, and not all of them.
M$: I understand. However, it's the phone storage where it's being saved so to organize and manage the files, only Nokia Support can address this one.
M$: I appreciate your patience and understanding.
M$: Thank you for using Microsoft Customer Service Chat. Please feel free to come back again. We are available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.
And then she disconnected.
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Is this correct? Office is just going to fill the phone with everything? The desktop version allows selective syncing. The phone version should be able to do that too, no? Was the CS rep just confused, or do I literally have to sell the phone already, because it wants to sync everything I have in the cloud and will automatically fill itself up until it's unusable?
Is it actually something on Nokia's end? That would seem rather odd to me, because I've not installed any Nokia software on my computer, nor do I have a Nokia account associated with the phone. I bought it used, did a factory reset, logged in with my windows live ID, and all of a sudden BAM, massive docs started syncing over.
Any help would be appreciated!
Regards,
--bb
//The crummy thing is that I really like the phone, and the syncing of just my to-do lists would be fantastic (as well as maybe a couple other very small onenote folders). So far I have no issues at all with it, aside from the fact that my remaining storage just about hit 0.
This is completely a microsoft issue, nokia is not going to know anything about this given that your problem is with the "MICROSOFT" office suite, lol.
Yay tech support. I thought Microsoft was making an attempt to improve theirs... guess that's still a work in progress.
At first I thought this was not supposed to happen.... but I'm not so sure after reviewing how my phone works.
It looks likes things are updated as you view them. So If you have a onenote notebook for school, the moment you open it everything will sync for the first time, but then afterwards it only appears to sync when you open each individual section or otherwise tell everything to sync.
So the solution should be to create a new Onenote notebook for notes/mobile use, and never ever open your school one.
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This is completely a microsoft issue, nokia is not going to know anything about this given that your problem is with the "MICROSOFT" office suite, lol.
Yay tech support. I thought Microsoft was making an attempt to improve theirs... guess that's still a work in progress.
At first I thought this was not supposed to happen.... but I'm not so sure after reviewing how my phone works.
It looks likes things are updated as you view them. So If you have a onenote notebook for school, the moment you open it everything will sync for the first time, but then afterwards it only appears to sync when you open each individual section or otherwise tell everything to sync.
So the solution should be to create a new Onenote notebook for notes/mobile use, and never ever open your school one.
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Meanwhile, you can get your memory back by doing Settings=>Applications=>Office=>Reset Office.