It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
Agreed.
I don't think its worth more than the current 99/149 prices.
After using one for about a week, I can say it's definitely not worth more than about $250 in its current state (if not less). It'll be worth the same amount as other lower-priced tablets when Android makes its way onto it. Either that, or when the Android emulator becomes functional.
WebOS is actually a really fantastic OS, there's just no apps for it.
bholloway said:
It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
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There is a marketing lesson to be learnt here somewhere. Unfortuantley HP don't seem to be taking advantage of the hype they have generated.
I would also buy one for the cheaper price (I went to Harvey norman on the sale day but missed out) but agree the prices people are paying for them now are rediculous. ($350-$400 lol) Unless more magically appear at or around the firesale price I will be saving for the next gen tablets.
Im hooked on watching people freak out over these tablets. Its so funny, I bought one for my sister and she loves it. All she does is Facebook and internet so it was a deal for her.
Impossible to find any around here selling on craigslist for $200 or less.
I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
I was only going to get one to flash it with Honeycomb.. but can not find one anywhere. If you aren't going to be doing that, then I don't see the justification for buying an unsupported product with no apps.
A lot of people got them because they knew Android would be ported to it sooner or later, making it a pretty decent device.
I tried to get one, but failed.
Other "non-nerd" general consumers got them because it is a cheap tablet that is fairly versatile, and for what you get, the price was amazing.
All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
tenaciousj said:
There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
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I think the market value of one of these is probably around 200 dollars. Actually,while Im not a fan of WebOS I think HPs situation is their own doing. There is a demand from a top manufacturer for a cheap tablet. What they SHOULD have done was contracted with one of these Taiwanese companies that make the 150-200 dollar tablets and made a smaller cheaper version of their tablet. Sell it close to cost for 150 dollars or so,running Web-OS,and sell their flagship tablet for around 400 dollars,pretty much what it takes to make it. I bet the cheaper ones would have flown off the shelves,creating a demand for WebOS apps,which would have driven demand for the bigger tablet. Instead,they tried to go head to head right at the start with the iPad,and priced their product similarly.
Think of it this way. Hyundai wants into the luxury car market. Should they make a car with similar features as a BMW, sell it for the same price and expect people to flock to it in droves? Of course not. That would be really stupid,especially considering that even if they do it right and make it comparable to the BMW,its going to have flaws because they have never done that before. Instead,what they did was make a comparable luxury car,two actually,the Genesis and the Equus. they are priced at 40K and 60K respectively. Thats around 10 grand at the low end and 20 at the high end lower than comparably equipped cars. They have to compete on price because they cant compete on the other aspects of their product. Some years down the road,if they can get and keep quality up to par,they may end up in the same situation as Honda and Toyota who used to be seen as cheap imported junk,but now are seen as high quality desirable vehicles. However,if they tried to simply change overnight and step in and compete with BMW ,or Toyota (Lexus) or Honda (Acura) they would fail as miserably as HP did.(they may still fail of course)
You have to have a plan on how to make inroads into someone elses markets and build a reputation or no one is going to buy your product,whether you are selling tablets that compete with the iPad or cars that compete with BMW. Samsungs strategy is that they are HUGE. Android tablets seem to be taking off slowly,and they can stay in the game and do things like use their other products to build market share. (For instance,if you buy a samsung TV and a samsung tablet,you can get a nice discount.)
I gave up, eventually the crazy will go down and those tablet will sell on ebay for the right price. For 300 dollars I'll look for a honeycomb android tablet at that point (I think I saw the asus transformer at that price or a bit more)
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I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
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My argument isn't that the touchpad isn't a good device for $100. If I could get one for $100 or even $150 that would be great. But my comment is that some people miss out on the sales, and for some reason continue to pursue getting one, even if it means paying $250+ to get one from someone else who bought them for cheap. People are getting caught up in having to get a touchpad that they end up wasting lots of money on a subpar device.
Are you kidding
Everyone went and got these because they know stock android will be hacked onto it in no time.
When the rush dies, in a couple of months I am sure someone will be able to pick up one on ebay close to firesale price.
WebOS is a nice OS but it's DOA now. IF android Honeycomb or ICS gets ported then it's a good buy. If it's stuck to 2.* version, then no. Phone software on a 10" tablet is plain stupid.
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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NORCALkID said:
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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HP also said that it would be "double down" on WebOS products when bought Palm. HP also said that it would only release perfect products (TouchPad launched with bugs beyond belief).
I really have a hard time believing what they say...
I will agree the whole HP Touchpad deal is getting kind of ridiculous. I admit, I was checking everywhere for one... But I wasn't about to spend double the price of the markdowns. I am actually on mine now, but I paid $149 for it at best buy two days ago. I didn't buy mine to make money, but to put it to use. Now I'm waiting on the clever devs to port Android over. And, I agree give it a month or two, and we'll see the prices back down to where they should be.
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I really have a hard time believing what they say...
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There's that, then there's also that HP didn't even say what NORCALkID claims they did. They said, and I quote:
HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
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Which is just buzzword bingo BS that says... nothing whatsoever.
I actually just purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9" 3 days ago and find myself thinking that perhaps I should have gone with the 10" format. (I am currently on the verge of returning it)
The Transformer EEE Pad was an option I was heavily interested in but I am wondering if this isn't a great time to buy any of these tabs. With CES going on do you think I would be better off waiting for a month to see the next-gen tablets? Also, even if I don't get a fancy quad-core machine (I probably won't as a matter of fact) do you think current gen tabs will fall significantly?
I understand tech is always moving forward and prices are always dropping, but I feel like with the impending release of some of the new tabs there may be a big shift coming soon and what I spend $400 for today could be significantly cheaper Very soon.
I'd be really interested to get some opinions from people on this board. Thanks!
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It seems like all the new lower priced ones have trade offs with hardware features and lack of firm release dates. So I think you bought at the right time because you can use it now and not be stuck in the release date rumor mill.
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quad core tables are on the way which mean a price drop on the dual core ones so i think it's kinda bad timing imho
I just watched a video yesterday of a $79 android tablet running ice cream sandwich. Its not yet released outside of China, and it's not made of state-of-the-art components, but this gives you an idea of where the android tab market is going.
To answer the op's question:
Like everything else with consumer electronics, wheteher its a good time for you to buy an android tablet depends on 1) what you're going to use the device for (which will determine the quality of the components of the device you want/need), and 2) the value you put on having it NOW.
In other words: I bought the Fire in mid-November, when it was released. If a tab with the quality of the Fire was to come out by this june costing 100 dollars, it would have been worth it for me to have paid the $99 premium to have had the Fire for that 7 months. But that's just me - you have to make that decision for yourself. Luckily, we're not talking huge sums of money here, so, even if you make the wrong decision, it's not something that will threaten your standard of living lol.
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For me it will mainly be a media consumption device (which is why I think I do want to go with the 10" screen - Netflix / Slingbox with an occasional game d/led from the market)
I did get a good price on the Samsung 8.9" (Open box from BB - $304 + tax). I would be willing to wait it out for a month or so if necessary if prices were about to take a sudden dive but I am not willing to wait 3+ months or so.. I was just afraid prices would be dropping rather suddenly now.
Like I said in the original post, I think I would consider getting a Asus Transformer (Not Prime at this point because I think it is too expensive for what I want to do with it) at a good price point.. The Samsung is nice and the screen is beautiful but I do like that Asus seems more on point updating their devices than Samsung and I also like the expandibility of the drive.
PS - Sorry XDA, didn't see there was a Q&A area!
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quad core tables are on the way which mean a price drop on the dual core ones so i think it's kinda bad timing imho
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I agree. IMO $500 is slot for a tablet. But only those on that price range are really worth buying. There will always be bigger and better on the horizon, but all I was is a transformer prime for around $300. I can wait another six months.
I was shopping for a phone for my son the other day. He is only young so I wanted a mid range/budget Android phone.
The best I was offered was a Samsung Ace II still stranded on Gingerbread and it left me thinking - Has the current desire for ultra powerful octa-core 5" mega phones left companies ignoring their mid range offerings?
Maybe its my lack of knowledge but I struggle to find anything on a £15 - £20 p/m contract that I would recommend to anyone to keep for *two years*.
With a lot of other tech you get trickle down, with last years top or the range features becoming next years mid range, and often hardware stays viable for two or three years. I think you'd be pushed to find many phones with upgrade support after two years?
I'd love to hear peoples thoughts...
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nexus 4 is the right device you need
Try HTC One S
+1 for the Nexus 4...
The Nexus 4 is a great phone, in fact that's what I have myself, but you can't get it on a contract (easily) leaving you with either shelling out the full amount or going choices like the Ace 2 which manufacturers just don't seem to care to care about.
In fact I ended up getting him an HTC 8s on a £15 pm contract. I was more wondering if in general people thought that manufacturers seem to have abandoned this section of the market.