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Not been on these forums for a while, but as some of you may know i've had all the various xda's, including recently the k-jam (poor build quality) and the jasjar (slow,bulky and generally not what is was cracked up to be) and so parted with them and choosing a more 'normal' communication device in the shape of a Samsung d600.... I hate it, it's boring, plain and caveman like, where as the xda's are clever, smart and feature packed. I'd love a ppc again, but for it's prime function, communication there just too damn unreliable! Until now, I found this a few weeks ago,a umpc, and the details were released yesterday from m$,follow the links below for more. These will change the ppc world for good imo. Yes there a bit bigger, but look what they pack! can use it for all my daily routines and sat nav and have a small,dedicated and reliable phone for just that. It looks awesome! What's more, there set to launch priced from $599, so not sill money! and when other companies release them, using other cpu's than intel. Can't wait, this is what I personally have been waiting for.
http://www.origamiproject.com
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/default.mspx
http://origamiproject.com/default.aspx
But you still have to carry around 2 'objects'
The main reason I got my first PPC (Blue Angel) is because it was phone and Diary (etc) all in one. Less to carry around.
(of course now I have a Universal and need a bluetooth headset so that isn't quite the case any more :roll: )
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What's more, there set to launch priced from $599, so not sill money! and when other companies release them, using other cpu's than intel.
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Firstly they are set to eventually cost $599ish but the initial itterations will cost $1000+ and secondly there are 4 models of UMPC that have been announced so far and only 3 of them use intel chips.
Samsung, Asus & Founder (all Intel chips) :
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/hands-on-with-asus-and-founder-umpcs/
Tabletkiosk (No intel chip)
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/10/tabletkiosk-v-700-umpc/
Personally I guessed during all the hype that it was another attempt to bring about Bills dream of a tablet PC future, when they come down in price mebbe I'll get one but only as a replacement for my laptop if anything, I love the portability of my PPC's and phones too much.
No,there launching from $599-$1000+ depending on model etc, then by christmas there hoping to get the cheapest down to around $500. Trust me on this I have one arriving next week :wink: . I know what you mean about 2 devices and carrying around etc etc, but for me, the extra power and usability wins. I guess I was just so dissapointed by the jasjar....beautiful screen....the end :roll: As for price even at $1000 it's reasonable, I paid what ammounts to around $1200 for the jasjar when it was first released....! :shock:
Jay,
Which model did you order, and from where?
Here is an interesting related discussion.
I really don't see the appeal in such a device.
Stuck in the middle between a PDA and a laptop, with few of the benefits of either.
You can't stick in in your pocket. So you're going to need a bag to carry it ... in which case you'll get way more grunt from carrying a laptop. And with a laptop you get a keyboard.
It comes with XP ... which I support professionally and won't touch with a barge pole otherwise. I'm actually suprised they don't want to release it with Vista so they can have a nice locked down implementation of 'trusted computing' as well.
Assuming these devices do get sufficient market pentration I'll be interested to see what happens in terms of porting an opensource OS to the platform.
Don't get me wrong - I'm sure that there are people for whom this device will be a real boon ... but for the general public I think it's going to be too bulky with insufficient benefits to offset that bulk.
The jasjar was too bulky for pockets too :lol: at least I can do all my web development on the go now in dw,ps and actinic etc. It's alot smnaller and smarter than lugging my laptop about. They'll be bringing pouch type thins out i imagine to carry then round and they don't weigh in at too much either. My dream device
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Here is an interesting related discussion.
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good post and a good read cheers
victoradjei said:
Jay,
Which model did you order, and from where?
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got one to test (and keep!) from m$. $100 all in,bargain!
I want one to test and keep too!
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No,there launching from $599-$1000+ depending on model etc, then by christmas there hoping to get the cheapest down to around $500. Trust me on this I have one arriving next week :wink: . I know what you mean about 2 devices and carrying around etc etc, but for me, the extra power and usability wins. I guess I was just so dissapointed by the jasjar....beautiful screen....the end :roll: As for price even at $1000 it's reasonable, I paid what ammounts to around $1200 for the jasjar when it was first released....! :shock:
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I'll believe it when I see it, I believe that the that have been announced wont be below $800 when they're launched, of course over time as new models come out they'll go down in price but the launch of the first few models I'd say you're looking at between $800 - $1000+
Gonna read the link now, I quess we'll see when they're launched.
Jesus, what a waste of cash (imo). Jack of all trades and master of none...
... Your money, time and effort though.
Samsung Q1 UMPC available for pre-order for $1,400
Suprise, suprise!!
I love being right LOL.
Has anyone ever tried to use one of these sliding bluetooth keyboard cases for iphone4 with their android? I know droids won't fit in it, but will it pair and function?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Sliding-Keyboard-Rubberized/dp/B0052CHOS2
It looks like a really nice portable kb option...just snap off the curved corners and a droid might sit in there nicely. Can't beat the $20 price tag.
Don't mean to upset you or anything, but I would prefer this one over that:
Flexible Bluetooth Waterproof Keyboard
Its on amazon at 29.99 instead of regular 79.99. So even from price point, I think this would be more useful cos we can use it with multiple devices. But yes, def. not as portable as the one you mentioned.
diablo009 said:
Don't mean to upset you or anything, but I would prefer this one over that:
Flexible Bluetooth Waterproof Keyboard
Its on amazon at 29.99 instead of regular 79.99. So even from price point, I think this would be more useful cos we can use it with multiple devices. But yes, def. not as portable as the one you mentioned.
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That is a full keyboard, lol. I like the small iphone 4 one better, im tempted to do actually get one and snap off the corners.
I'm not upset, but I know how a-lot of people around here can have hissies over nothing.
I've have played with those flexible keyboards and I'm not crazy about the smooshy keys. More interested in something tiny and cheap that I can bang out text with my thumbs. Thanks for the suggestion though. That one isn't bad for the $.
MikeyFTL said:
I'm not upset, but I know how a-lot of people around here can have hissies over nothing.
I've have played with those flexible keyboards and I'm not crazy about the smooshy keys. More interested in something tiny and cheap that I can bang out text with my thumbs. Thanks for the suggestion though. That one isn't bad for the $.
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Thank you for that headsup. I was thinking of getting one.
Looking for some input on the best tablet to use for work? I work in construction so would be using mainly for Email, pdf viewing/editing, spreadsheets, picture taking for documentation/scanning. Preferably durable or otterbox or better cases available. Not a necessity, but would enjoy a decent amount of custom roms available. Im kinda new to the tablets and wondering if they would even be the best fit for my needs or if a netbook would be more suitable?
Thank you for your input, i really value the opinions of this community and would be lost without it.
Work and tablet don't come together. A tablet is a plaything and right now, change seems unlikely. The office or anything work related apps cannot begin to compare to the windows, Linux or osx counterparts. Get a netbook or ultrabook, both are better. A netbook atleast would be the same price as some tablets and others, cheaper.
$1 gets you a reply
Well in your opinion what are some of the best netbooks?
Motorola Xoom, Why??
first in this moment is cheap...
Roms... Tiamat team, make a perfect rom that give you high performance
the camara its awsome, you can take a photo to a doc, and you can read like a pdf
i dont know what's more...
visit the subforum
BrImStOnE UnLeAsHeD said:
Looking for some input on the best tablet to use for work? I work in construction so would be using mainly for Email, pdf viewing/editing, spreadsheets, picture taking for documentation/scanning. Preferably durable or otterbox or better cases available. Not a necessity, but would enjoy a decent amount of custom roms available. Im kinda new to the tablets and wondering if they would even be the best fit for my needs or if a netbook would be more suitable?
Thank you for your input, i really value the opinions of this community and would be lost without it.
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If your looking for an android tablet, i'd say the Asus transformer would be cool, coz it has a real keyboard dock..
If it has to be a tablet and money is not an issue, check out the new transformer prime.
If you really want to work get a lightweight notebook.
Something like the acer timelinex 3830T.
Personally i think all netbooks are the same. All will either use an atom or a AMD counterpart (if they have one). Ram will probably be 2-4gb at best. I rarely see any if not any, none with cd/dvd drives. The best that really could be different is the motherboard and display. Personally i would go with a sony series s 13 ". Or a m11x if money wasn't such a problem.
What do you guy's think of the Ubuntu Edge?
I couldn't resist backing it. I can't wait for more specs.
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4 GBs of RAM and 128 storage?! That's sick! I am incredible interested if only for native dual boot loader. The renders look sleek and sick. I've no experience with indiegogo though, but I am guessing it's similar to Kickstarter? Either way. Count me in!
I already backed it. Unbelievably excited.
Back it for 1 unit. One thing now that worries me. Silicon Anode battery. Didn't know what is it and did a quick search and found that it's not a mature tech yet. Hope the battery can hold it's recycle charges. If not hopefully the battery can be changes easily.
http://www.gizmag.com/silicon-anode-lithium-ion-battery/26256/
Can't wait to get my hand on it. Almost I d*#n long year to wait.
I think it is great.
I like the idea of using the device as a computer.
Backed one.
I'm kind of afraid that Canonical won't collect 32.000.000$ before Q2 2014
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I'm kind of afraid that Canonical won't collect 32.000.000$ before Q2 2014
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Soon they have only 29 days left to collect the remaining amount.
If they don't make it then you will get your money back. So no loss, money wise.
Backed it for 1 unit, hope it actually happens
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This is totally awesome !
I like it much because I am already using ubuntu ...
Great innovation ... :laugh:
I say this should become the official Ubuntu Edge discussion thread
I bet a lot of people would like to have the phone once it is out, if that happens, and then pay thousands of dollars to get one on ebay, instead of supporting the fund now and make it actually happen.
Because technology wise, this phone is really nice. All components state of the art or even better. For example the sapphire crystal glass screen. Should be much better than gorilla glass. Seiko watches use it for instance.
Hope this will work out with the crowd funding.
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I bet a lot of people would like to have the phone once it is out, if that happens, and then pay thousands of dollars to get one on ebay, instead of supporting the fund now and make it actually happen.
Because technology wise, this phone is really nice. All components state of the art or even better. For example the sapphire crystal glass screen. Should be much better than gorilla glass. Seiko watches use it for instance.
Hope this will work out with the crowd funding.
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Well, if each person, who wants to have Edge, donates 600$ (which seems to be the price of the final product), then Canonical needs only 53400 people to collect 32.000.000$ and start the production. I say this is pretty much real, Ubuntu fans alone cpuld fund the whole sum, let alone Android users who are interested in both Ubuntu Touch and the Ubuntu Edge, which would make about double the number.
So my bet is that Canonical will get the needed money before Christmas
Will they bring out the phone if the crowd funding fails? There is only 29 days left now on the clock.
Wow, they already got almost 3.600.000$ =-O
I would hope that some companies donate towards it. Considering how many are using their software, it only seems fair...
I wish I had some spare change to back one, as this is seriously the kind of smartphone I'd be interested in. Running a normal desktop Linux OS with both a mobile gui for the phone screen and a desktop gui for docking it. That would be an awesome device.
At the rate things are going now, they're not going to get the funds they need. The rate of funding slowed down a lot once time ran out on the $600 option. It would be a shame too.
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If Edge becomes reality, then Ubuntu will beat Microsoft at unifying mobile & desktop experience, but on the more productive side. Microsoft offers the same experience only for those people who don't use Desktop anymore on PC and don't mind losing the real multitasking environment as well as give up desktop programs.
Edge will have the best advantage possible, as according to Canonical it will run everything that Ubuntu runs. The specs are top notch.
My only regret is that I'll have the cash to back it only around mid-August so I would lose the $600 mark
But Microsoft will still rule the enterprise sector, as all the business programs are made for Windows only
The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.
I was going to buy something similar from nike yesterday, but the last time I checked it out I didn't notice, it was for iphones/ipods.....I was seriously bummed.
Big thanks for posting this and getting my hope up a little bit!!
If I understood correctly, then they consider requests, not how many will actually going to buy this?? Everyone who even likes the idea....start emailing
The price is actually quite good too.....~10€ more expensive than the nike's long sleeves that were 50% off, but the elevate definitely seems alot nicer!!!
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The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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Yeah, as I mentioned above, there are several other sleeve-style cases, but none that don't suck. I'm guessing you haven't used the NIKE version, which doesn't fit an SGSIV with or without a case on it, nor is it comfortable. Also the NIKE sleeve has the same cheap plastic face and the phone sits on the underside of your forearm rather than the top (very uncomfortable position when running IMO.) Sadly, it is still the best of the cases I've tried, too bad it doesn't work with anything but an old iPhone I use as an iPod.
I'd wager that this or even this were as much an inspiration as the NIKE+ sleeve for the Elevate.
If your criteria for buying something is that it be an original idea, your place must be empty. We don't come across may truly original ideas in the world we live in today. I'll happily take an innovation on an existing product in lieu of an original/bleeding edge product if it gets the job done. If we didn't buy better versions of existing products, we wouldn't have iOS nor Android devices, now would we?
That said, the Elevate is an unproven product, not unlike the betas we all like to run here at XDA, so I am not touting it as the end-all-be-all in fitness cases. From the specs and the prototype, it certainly looks like an innovation over the NIKE version. I'm also not asking anyone else to back the product. I'm just hoping that some folks will head over and chime in for the S4 so that if I decide to back it, I will have a case to receive.
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....
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That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....
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Bingo!
And as of today, they only need 17 more requests to make this for the S4.
(Potential) Backers — Here's a quick update on the request count that we've gotten so far. Looks like S4 is our most popular so far. Not surprised. Just 17 more requests and we're adding it to the production list.
I put in my request yesterday! Hopefully we get enough for our S4's to be accommodated because this sleeve looks amazing! :good:
I've asked the maker to consider a semi universal sleeve for larger (not the largest, sorry Note folks) phones as this range is relatively similar in size.
Visual Comparison and SIze Specs
Found this kickstarter the other day and backed it. Seems to have a lot of potential if it'll fit the bigger phones (S3/S4)