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INCREDIBLE Raphael Camera Discovery

Hi Guys
I was testing out the camera on my Fuze last night in complete darkness in my room. So i put the flash on, and started snapping some pictures. What I started to notice was that there was this halo on the right side of the screen. I quickly figured out that this was from the LED light hitting the back casing and bouncing back into the camera lens! I removed the back of the Fuze, and snapped another picture. The differences are AMAZING! THe following pictures have the exact same settings and everything, one was just taken with the back on and with without the back on.
Check it out!
With Back On = http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0022.jpg
Without Back On = http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0020.jpg

I guess my pictures dont have this halo as stated here http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0022.jpg
or at least not that strong
NExt problem is how to solve that without removing back casing? Maybe impossible ;(
Nice find! THanks

Thanks. The only thing that I was considering was some type of jacket that goes around the flash that plugs the space between the back casing and the flash. But I'm not exatly sure how I could do that...

You can modify your case by putting a dark piece of material in the case to separate the light form the camera lens.

Yea I was thinking maybe some of that black foam type stuff with the adhesive on the back thats often used on electronics would work great.

maybe it is a ORB..
tvos

tvos said:
maybe it is a ORB..
tvos
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ROFL

Yea after I took the picture my camera was actually taken by a spirit and thrown across the room. I tried to get it back but to no avail...

whats needed is to make the hole that little bit bigger

In my opinon HTC should leave the camera out from these business models, lower the price and make them smaller in size or something...

id rather they make them actually usable like some nokia or sony models myself. i love not having to carry around a separate camera as long as the phone camera is up to snuff.

A small square of felt between them ought to do the trick.....

dont have that problem

leaving out the camera is like limiting the device of what it can REALLY do. true, many business's state no camera phones on site, simple solution find another job.. j/k have two devices one w/wo camera..
tvos

Loco5150 said:
In my opinon HTC should leave the camera out from these business models, lower the price and make them smaller in size or something...
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Yesterday I had send a document to a coworker, and I used my Pro to take a picture.
Last month I had to e-mail a bank receipt while on the go, guess what I did?
So yes, the camera is important for business use, and I would never buy a phone without it.

Smaniac said:
Yesterday I had send a document to a coworker, and I used my Pro to take a picture.
Last month I had to e-mail a bank receipt while on the go, guess what I did?
So yes, the camera is important for business use, and I would never buy a phone without it.
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exactly - so much easier than writing stuff down

I'm a service tech....and use the camera to snap pictures of goofy stuff I see
on machines, and sometimes mail them to the tech support center. I've always
been told a picture is like 1000 words...

last week I caught my spouse cheating on me finally and took pictures with my diamond pro... so yes, it is good for business, especially when you can give it to your attoryney for grounds of divorce..
tvos
ps. just kidding - having fun with this topic! hehhe

djcaston said:
Thanks. The only thing that I was considering was some type of jacket that goes around the flash that plugs the space between the back casing and the flash. But I'm not exatly sure how I could do that...
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If anyone tries this, or any other fix successfully, will you please post pics of your "repair"?
Thanks!

djcaston said:
Hi Guys
I was testing out the camera on my Fuze last night in complete darkness in my room. So i put the flash on, and started snapping some pictures. What I started to notice was that there was this halo on the right side of the screen. I quickly figured out that this was from the LED light hitting the back casing and bouncing back into the camera lens! I removed the back of the Fuze, and snapped another picture. The differences are AMAZING! THe following pictures have the exact same settings and everything, one was just taken with the back on and with without the back on.
Check it out!
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This has been discovered on the Kaiser forum a while ago already. But now that you mention it, i check the back cover and surprisingly, I haven't noticed until now that there is no protecting glasses in the holes.

UPDATED!: Pictures of Captivate Mainboard

So.. after some tinkering (and massaging) I got the back cover off of my Captivate and was able to snap some pics of the innards for your viewing pleasure.
It's very similar to the standard Galaxy S, but some of the chips are laid out a bit differently, also, I apologize for the substandard picture quality, the only thing I have available to take pictures is a Blackberry Storm2 with an led flash.
Update: I've taken some better pictures now, and I've got them uploaded:
Teardown Photos
Enjoy!
Update:
Step by Step Teardown

Very cool

That is cool. Wonder how long it will be until we see a complete tear down of the phone

That is (almost) as far as you can go. Theres one more PCB thats actually attached to the screen. Other than that, that main board and the sim/sd card board that sits on top of it are all thats there.
Edit: Here are some better pictures I was able to take this morning, unfortunately EVERY single picture I tried to take of the small Broadcom chip turned out like crap, or you could not see the writing on the chip. I could not read it myself, as the writing on the chip is extremely tiny, and I don't have a magnifying glass.
Teardown Photos

Any way you could do a photo-by-photo instruction for the tear-down? Maybe put some o' dem fancy photo-ma-shop arrows in there?

I suppose I could do that
I just need a few more photos of the "in between" steps to give a better idea of what needs to be disconnected and how to get the back cover off.
And then there's the whole write up thing. -- Question about that, should I do a new "tear down" thread, I'll get a bit more in depth this time as well, I'll get all the chip numbers down (I found a magnifying glass!) so we can better cross reference what hardware we have in comparison to the Galaxy S i9000.
Will probably be a day or two until I can get it up, maybe longer depending on the write up.

Yeah, I'm guessing a tear-down thread would be in order unless there's some way of changing your thread title. Appreciate it.
I spilled a bit of an "adult beverage" on my Captivate last nite. Dang cat... Nothing went wrong w/the phone... save for the power button & the volume rocker... They were a bit... sticky.
I was able to get them cleaned up a bit using a razor blade & some alcohol wipes, but I'd love to be able to fully clean everything by disassembling the phone. I removed the 4 screws in the back beneath the battery cover, but got nowhere...

Can someone confirm if the fm radio chip is there?
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t-readyroc said:
I removed the 4 screws in the back beneath the battery cover, but got nowhere...
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There are actually 6 screws. Two are hidden underneath the sliding latch for the battery door.
isyiwang said:
Can someone confirm if the fm radio chip is there?
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Thats one of the purposes of tearing the phone down, I'm hoping to answer that question, or at least give enough people enough information to find out.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=200666&fcc_id='A3LSGHI897'

pretty cool u think now that we can tear it down, we can add the front camera too it?

I don't know, it would definitely take someone much more skilled than I to fit the Front camera in.
The layout on the top is a tiny bit different, and it would require some changes to that as well as making space above the screen on the opposite side for the camera.
So, definitely NOT an easy job, if it is even possible.

if you look at that video of the teardown of a galaxy S i9000, it looks like the FFC is part of the rear facing camera module
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9XNnjAcBc&feature=player_embedded
at 2:59 in the video the camera is taken out, and at 3:07 she turns it over and you can see the front facing camera - does your rear facing camera look different (except for the obvious, missing that small black square with the FFC)?
if it's not different, except for the missing ft camera, i suspect these are all modular components so sammy could assemble them, as needed, to a customer's specs - which means, if someone can source that correct module w/ffc, and rip the driver and software for it from the i9000, that it'd be possible

The camera is identical, minutes the front facing piece, if course. The connection to the main board is the same as well.
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if you pull it apart again, it'd be nice if you had a magnifier or a camera capable of macro shots so we can definitively identify that gps chipset

The macro on my camera is good, but not that good =)
My magnifying glass, however, shows me that the chip is a BCM4751.
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My research shows that this chip does not do anything with FM radio so that is quite disappointing. Dammit AT&T! Always got gotta crap up a great phone. So now we don't get FM radio and we don't get the FFC.

if its the same camera module minus the FFC, im sure we will find some junk galaxys on ebay for parts soon enough, sum1 will develop a new front for us hopefully, pop in the new camera, get the ROM for it to work, and hope it can work. i am by no way an engineer or anything technically, so im not saying its plausable, just saying it could work if some1 knew how to do it.

NikAmi said:
My research shows that this chip does not do anything with FM radio so that is quite disappointing. Dammit AT&T! Always got gotta crap up a great phone. So now we don't get FM radio and we don't get the FFC.
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This chip is the broadcom gps. He replied to the larryccf question.
So, I hope fm radio is here.
Broadcom BCM4751 is a single-chip GPS receiver used for tracking and navigation, primarily in mobile devices.
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iLoki said:
The macro on my camera is good, but not that good =)
My magnifying glass, however, shows me that the chip is a BCM4751.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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tks - it may be sammy did use a different gps chipset in the captivate
and btw, macro will magnify - take a high res shot, then open on your pc, depending on how hi res, i've had them open the picture in 25 X 22" or so sizes
and you can see mosquito footprints - had an Omega, a high end one that had a serial number on the backside way too small to read even with a 6X magnifier - had to have been laser etched
used a macro shot to read it - no joke
try it some time

Crack my screen please help!!!

I bought a Sensation and the other day my screen cracked when I dropped it, so i bought a screen digitizer replacement but it did not come with instructions =[
I'm freaking out because I have no idea how to do this and I spent 45 dollars to replace it! Can someone please help!? PLEASE! =[

Vinny702 said:
I bought a Sensation and the other day my screen cracked when I dropped it, so i bought a screen digitizer replacement but it did not come with instructions =[
I'm freaking out because I have no idea how to do this and I spent 45 dollars to replace it! Can someone please help!? PLEASE! =[
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Got a good picture of the backside of your new screen?
Connections,etc?

The Radius Kid said:
Got a good picture of the backside of your new screen?
Conncetions,etc?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00597J4I8
thats what im working with.... does that help?

Vinny702 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00597J4I8
thats what im working with.... does that help?
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That shows me the connector strap....but all is not lost.
I opened mine.
There's two small screws up top on either corner.
Two just below the battery pocket on either side and two on the bottom corners.
It looks like there may be a hidden one in the battery pocket,next to the contact terminals,under a round dot sticker.
They look like they may be #4 Torx head .. just a guess.
Get those out [remember their positions] and it should be fairly easy.

The Radius Kid said:
That shows me the connector strap....but all is not lost.
I opened mine.
There's two small screws up top on either corner.
Two just below the battery pocket on either side and two on the bottom corners.
It looks like there may be a hidden one in the battery pocket,next to the contact terminals,under a round dot sticker.
They look like they may be #4 Torx head .. just a guess.
Get those out [remember their positions] and it should be fairly easy.
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after that will the screen come off or is there a technic for doing that?

Vinny702 said:
I bought a Sensation and the other day my screen cracked when I dropped it, so i bought a screen digitizer replacement but it did not come with instructions =[
I'm freaking out because I have no idea how to do this and I spent 45 dollars to replace it! Can someone please help!? PLEASE! =[
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take it back to the shop and get it fixed?

If you lived in the Oklahoma City area I'd say bring it in to my shop & I'd get you all fixed up(I'm a phone/computer/game console repair tech) but I dunno what area you're in, so... Replacing screens is generally pretty easy but I REALLY recommend you take it to a phone shop if you don't know how to do it. These phones are extremely delicate & you could break it VERY easily with one wrong move. But if you insist on doing it yourself, this should hopefully help you out some with getting it apart- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7gt1EnN3w It's kind of fast & ****ty, but it's the only teardown vid I could find.
FYI- digitizers are stuck on with special double-stick adhesive that holds it in place over the LCD, so make sure the one you bought came with a new piece of adhesive because you can't reuse the old one(unless you're VERY careful) & the screen won't stay on w/o it. You'll wanna use a heat gun on a low setting or a hot hairdryer to get the old digitizer off too. And of course, be mindful of dust.

I just did exactly this repair and took some footage while doing it. Excuse the crappy voiceover.
On youtube.com go to watch?v=T5bWl73O9ss Or just search for HTC Sensation Screen Repair
Apparently my old account was disabled so I had to sign up again. Now I can't post a single URL. Hope someone else can make that linkable.

bronson2 said:
I just did exactly this repair and took some footage while doing it. Excuse the crappy voiceover.
On youtube.com go to watch?v=T5bWl73O9ss Or just search for HTC Sensation Screen Repair
Apparently my old account was disabled so I had to sign up again. Now I can't post a single URL. Hope someone else can make that linkable.
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This one?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5bWl73O9ss

if you've never done that before, I suggest (as I do to all my customers to save pain and money) find someone with knowhow, and kindly ask to look over their shoulder. this has worked for me on many many occasions. I know know how to windshield chip repair for one (although completely unrelated)

Replacing HTC One S Battery

Hello I wondering if after say 6 months - 1 year of use if we could replace the battery of the HTC One S somehow because my limited knowledge tells me the battery capacity will be much lower after 6 month - 1 year of use.
Thanks!

RepusJonathan said:
Hello I wondering if after say 6 months - 1 year of use if we could replace the battery of the HTC One S somehow because my limited knowledge tells me the battery capacity will be much lower after 6 month - 1 year of use.
Thanks!
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I highly doubt you can replace it yourself, the back is one whole peice, I'm gonna say that your gonna have to take it to a retail store so they can replace it for you bcuz I kinda asked the same question at the store and they said to just bring in the phone and we'll replace it for you but im not too sure about that, if you don't mind taking apart your phone to replace a battery you could buy a battery from amazon or eBay and just look up how to tear down the one s but the decision is all yours, its your device.....hopefully this kinda helped you
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DONT DO IT URSELF LOL! why would u give him that idea
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Lol my bad, maybe he wants to do it him self which I really wouldnt recommend at this point but each user makes his own decision, everyone is different....he may want to do it himself (i wouldn't recommend). Im just putting ideas out there you know whatever he chooses to do is his decision but he should think about the consequences should he choose to do it himself, but hey everyone is different so....think about it b4 you make a decision....
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k1llacanon said:
DONT DO IT URSELF LOL! why would u give him that idea
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Umm, why not? I've opened my phone several times. The battery looks pretty easy to replace.

villainhalf said:
Umm, why not? I've opened my phone several times. The battery looks pretty easy to replace.
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Dont quote me on this but I've read while it's not hard to take the back out, the battery appeared to be soldered or some other way permanently attached. Not the battery itself but the wires coming from it. I heard the wires aren't just a clip connection to the board but soldered or some other way
Sent from my HTC One S on Axiom S

HTC One S Screen Repair Directions | DirectFix
Check this video of One S disasembly out, it may be helpful. Removing the back cover doesn't seem hard at all and the battery is is not soldered, as you can see in the video (somewhere around 3:40 they remove the battery connector).

Lols he's making out that because hes opened the back means it'll be so easy to replace battery leave him to it and in a few months we won't see hik on xda because he does not have a one s anymore lol
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k1llacanon said:
Lols he's making out that because hes opened the back means it'll be so easy to replace battery leave him to it and in a few months we won't see hik on xda because he does not have a one s anymore lol
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Allow me to disagree. It appears to be a very straight forward task. You have to:
1. Remove the two plastic covers
2. Unscrew 4 screws
3. Unplug the old battery and plug in the new one
4. Screw the 4 screws, mentioned in step 2
5. Place back the plastic covers
If that sounds dangerous to you, maybe you are probably right not to do it yourself.
P.S. I do not take any responsibility whatsoever for other people's skills or lack of skills and the potential damage they may cause to their devices

k1llacanon said:
Lols he's making out that because hes opened the back means it'll be so easy to replace battery leave him to it and in a few months we won't see hik on xda because he does not have a one s anymore lol
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LOL. You're assuming that I don't have the technical skill to take apart a phone because you lack the ability. The One S isn't my first rodeo; the process is straight forward and even a halfwit monkey could do it. If you lack the technical skills of a halfwit monkey than excuse me for my disrespect and I admire your willingness to blend into a social setting with your illness. :good:
eminembdg said:
Dont quote me on this but I've read while it's not hard to take the back out, the battery appeared to be soldered or some other way permanently attached. Not the battery itself but the wires coming from it. I heard the wires aren't just a clip connection to the board but soldered or some other way
Sent from my HTC One S on Axiom S
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My battery, nor the wires, were soldered. I was/am thinking about transferring to black casing.
EDIT: Z3ra7uL; You got to the video first :] Plus thanks to you.

villainhalf said:
My battery, nor the wires, were soldered. I was/am thinking about transferring to black casing.
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have u found any black casing yet bro?

I dissasembled my device, it's not hard at all. Trust me, i'm engineer

Is there an sd slot in there? I would really like to put my 32 gig sd card in this phone. Sadly 16 is not enough.

musky said:
Is there an sd slot in there? I would really like to put my 32 gig sd card in this phone. Sadly 16 is not enough.
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Nope, we're lucky enough to get flash memory.
Dr. Rick: not yet. The UK body is not compatible with the US S. It has a different bottom. I'm waiting for the black and red US S before continuing my experiment.
I am looking to see if the One J's battery is compatible with our phone. I'll Frankenstein a larger battery. As it stands I've bought a few extra one s batteries and to keep charged just in case of emergencies. The battery is really easy to replace.
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villainhalf said:
Nope, we're lucky enough to get flash memory.
Dr. Rick: not yet. The UK body is not compatible with the US S. It has a different bottom. I'm waiting for the black and red US S before continuing my experiment.
I am looking to see if the One J's battery is compatible with our phone. I'll Frankenstein a larger battery. As it stands I've bought a few extra one s batteries and to keep charged just in case of emergencies. The battery is really easy to replace.
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I thought someone said there was a cut down sd card in there...once he takes off the back, what's the black thing in the upper right of the back of the phone?

villainhalf said:
LOL. You're assuming that I don't have the technical skill to take apart a phone because you lack the ability. The One S isn't my first rodeo; the process is straight forward and even a halfwit monkey could do it. If you lack the technical skills of a halfwit monkey than excuse me for my disrespect and I admire your willingness to blend into a social setting with your illness. :good:
My battery, nor the wires, were soldered. I was/am thinking about transferring to black casing.
EDIT: Z3ra7uL; You got to the video first :] Plus thanks to you.
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So the battery wires were just a clip like connection then?
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eminembdg said:
So the battery wires were just a clip like connection then?
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Yup check the video posted in this thread by z3ra7ul, post #7 its a real nice teardown vid

You guys seem to have this pretty well covered but just thought I'd include my experience as well. A few days ago I replaced the damaged housing on my International One S because somebody was interested in buying it but then wasn't interested in my asking price because the warranty was now void..
Anyway, it was super easy. Only difference is that, while the one in the video's lower cover just pops off, mine is double-sided stickied in an elaborate pattern and was rather difficult to remove. The sticky stretches out and needs to be put back into place. It was even more difficult to get it back on properly.. but I finally got it.
But yes, The battery is easy to get at, but I don't remember seeing a connector for it (but I wasn't really looking for it specifically.. just checking things out). So I wonder if the EU version is soldered and the US version is connector?

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Only difference is that, while the one in the video's lower cover just pops off, mine is double-sided stickied in an elaborate pattern and was rather difficult to remove. The sticky stretches out and needs to be put back into place. It was even more difficult to get it back on properly.. but I finally got it.
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Do you mean the used some double sided tape?

Basically you just need to pop off the top cover, then the bottom with a case opener, remove a few screws, then CAREFULLY dislodge the case from the rest of the device, be very careful here because if you use too much force the metal will bend! Then you can just use tweezers to pull the battery connector off and you can remove the battery.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/

[Need Hardware Base Help]Try This, May Be Help You....

Hi,friends, I recently open my phone to remove dust from front camera, fot that I had searched a lot and with the help of below comments I have got many thing to know about the phone hardware. I have found many manual for our phone which can help u on hardware base and may be software,too. So I am attaching the manual below.
Let me tell u that I am providing this manuals so if u want to mess your phone, you can open it with help of it. However decision of opening the phone will be only yours, i will not be responsible for damaged caused to your phone. If u are having warranty than then the best way to visit service center only(Advisory). After all choice will be yours...
I am not expert of hardware. I am just sharing the manuals that can help you. How ever u can post your questions based on hardware and person who will have solution will reply. I request to reply who has solution.
It may help u to open the phone.
Will be back with some more manuals.
Here down my problem was...
Hi, friends. I have got dust in front camera of my phone. It had happened three three months before also, but at that time had got it done as only two day of warranty were there. But now it has happened again. So I thought to try to open my phone. I opened seven screws from back side. But i can not open inner back cover as volume button and lock button are attached with it through holes. So need help if anyone have tried before and have opened the phone before. I searched on google also to find proper answer but i didn't get. I found manual of our phone but there was nothing about hardware. If i can open inner back cover and can remove dust by my self. I think if i can solve it by my self and don't have to pay money to sammy as i find that they some times take much money. So if anyone can help here before I need to go to sammy.

Search google disassembly of galaxy S GT 9000
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Theres dust in your front cam glass means your touch screen glass has slightly come off near the front cam. Try to just pull out a little bit.. N insert a ear bud... Yess a ear bud to wipe the dust off. And then a couple of adhesive drops will stick the screen back.
It had happened to me.. N this is what i did.
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@nitinvaid:- Thanx, typing "disassembling galaxy sl i9003" helped me a lot. Even i got all types of maual for hard-ware and soft ware base. Almost every stuff related with our phone both hardware and software....
@chinmay_7d:- I didn't get this "your touch screen glass has slightly come off near the front cam"... I cleared the dust with ear buds..
After all I did it my self. However it is quiet risky and one needs to be very care-full. One can brick his\her phone and divide it into little stone. I got one little crack on inner back cover but i will solve it and i got an ic loose which i had to attach with tap and cotton. However i got to know very much about the spar-parts. I am think of making this thread base on hardware help with all manuals available.....What do u say guys??? Should I or not.

androman1507 said:
@nitinvaid:- Thanx, typing "disassembling galaxy sl i9003" helped me a lot. Even i got all types of maual for hard-ware and soft ware base. Almost every stuff related with our phone both hardware and software....
@chinmay_7d:- I didn't get this "your touch screen glass has slightly come off near the front cam"... I cleared the dust with ear buds..
After all I did it my self. However it is quiet risky and one needs to be very care-full. One can brick his\her phone and divide it into little stone. I got one little crack on inner back cover but i will solve it and i got an ic loose which i had to attach with tap and cotton. However i got to know very much about the spar-parts. I am think of making this thread base on hardware help with all manuals available.....What do u say guys??? Should I or not.
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Ya buddy...go ahead. It will help people