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Today I tried the Hero, and I must say that it makes the Magic just as you would expect. I think this ROM is that we should concentrate all our efforts in order to make it usable.
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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I don't have this youtube issue. When I watch at a video, in menu pop up it ask me if I want to see it in normal res.
I'm with v2 Rogers rom.
I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
yukkio said:
I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
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are the hardware specs on the hero that much more robust than on the Magic? I should look that up I suppose....
Regardless, I would think that HTC would eventually want to supply the Rosie UI to as many devices as possible, as they did with touchflo 3d when it came out.
I reinstalled Hero yesterday evening as I wanted to give it a try.
I used nk02 version cause my sdcard is very slow for handling the Apps. It's the 8GB sdcard that came with the Magic. I learned the last days that it's class 2 and, in order to have the Apps running properly in the sdcard, we need a class 6.
My new sdcard is on the way and i will be able to double check this.
Anyway, after installing the rom i did several optimization things. I just went to the Dream forum and use what the people are doing. Basically this is what i did:
- Hero SpeedUp v2.0 script. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521421
From here I took the dexopt-wrapper and the optimize.sh script in order to create .odex files for every apk.
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
This means that I disable the Rosie UI and use for normal daily use the standard home screen.
Someone will ask why would I want to have Hero when I disable the Rosie UI. Simple: I can switch back to Rosie whenever I want if I want to play with the new home screen.
But, If I want the phone to be responsive and not that laggy, it's better to disable Rosie. In this way the phone works quite well and I still have all the advantages that the new Hero firmware has to offer me:
- Twitter and facebook integration
- new calendar
- all the new menus in contacts, dialer, etc.
- new camera
etc, etc, etc.
I also read that if I just keep Rosie without any widget, it will still run smooth but i haven't tried it yet.
So overall I'm happy of my decision to go for Hero again (I haven't tried Rogers, I moved from Ion to Hero directly) and I will also support the idea to focus on this firmware.
It's really looking good.
P.S: I will also copy this post in the Hero forum as I think it belongs there too.
rommelin said:
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
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This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
flitar said:
This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
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Can you see inside the Application Management menu both apps? Rosie and Home?
If you don't have Home, even if you clear defaults from Rosie, it will go back to Rosie as there would not be any other alternative.
So, can you confirm me that you can see both apps?
P.S: Just reminder: after you push Launcher to the phone, you need to reboot.
Doh! rebooted, works now. Thanks
I downloaded dolphin browser HD from the market last night to give it a try. I wanted to see if it would make the browsing even smoother and faster than it already is on frf91, or run flash better or something. I don't notice anything different. I understand that it has a lot of great features like gestures, tabs, add ons that the regular browser doesn't. But as far as just the performance of page loading or scrolling or anything, do you guys see any difference? What do you like about it?
Lol you answered it in your own post.. It's about the extra features it has
Right I was just wondering if people saw a performance increase in certain types of pages or something. Or if anyone was noticing speed increases.
I don't see any improvements whatsoever with speed. For Dolphin, I have a bunch of gestures set up that makes my lift a lot easier by having a shortcut to "select text".
I guess the only other thing that helps is the convenient access to wipe history and cache. You can also set it to private browsing mode so it never remembers history.
I like being able to exit/close the browser
I have noticed a few features that make Dolphin browser great.
First is the UAs (user agent settings) can be set to desktop client always. I hate going to about:debug every single time on the N1 stock browser. The MT3GS has a stock browser with UAs options in the stock settings. Not having that, after already having it in a stock browser is just annoying.
Downloading is much more efficient with Dolphin for me. I have been able to get everything posted on xda through rapidshare and others. If I am about to download something on my computer, I chrome to phone the link, and use dolphin to download it and astro to move it to the root.
Text clarity is much better on Dolphin. This was especially noticeable when reading text sites, like the news.
The flash player is on Demand, which is annoying when your first testing it out, but I have grown to love that feature. Especially when a lot of sites are fattened up with flash advertisements and useless widgets all over the place. News sites are the worst of all. Even when your in an EDGE only zone a news story should load fine, but an animated advertisement loading in the middle of the page will slow you down.
Downside. I can't seem to establish a secure connection when attempting to connect to a website using verisign to verify the secure connection. I don't know if it is the secure connection that isn't working or the verification? I emailed Dolphin, maybe they will tell me.
I use Dolphin primarily, but the great thing about Android is that you can run both of them, or either of them whenever you please. Getting the best of both worlds.
What I like the most is the simple refresh and stop button next to the address bar
I just wish it had a better theme...the theme tries to be too flashy and the additional themes are equally as gaudy...a simple stock browser theme (same tabs and buttons and whatnot but with the stock android theme styling) would be great...oh well.
Just so I know, dolphin browser uses the default webkit browser core, correct? And it just basically is like the default browser with different settings, UI, and "skin" overtop of the default browser.
no one uses xscope?
dmo580 said:
no one uses xscope?
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Only for downloading files that Dolphin Browser seems to not want to download...
Skyfire 2.1 has improved alot. Its fast, the multi touch is better than it was with 2.0, and its flash player works much better than before. I use this when browsing casually (not logging in anywhere.) Love to watch worldstarhiphop videos with it cause flash 10.1 performance sucks on that site.
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i use xscope. although i like that dolphin has ability to sync bookmarks
Nope, stopped using Dolphin HD for a couple reasons:
1) It has tabs, which is awesome, but it's a little too complicated to reach them compared to the old dolphin. I liked being able to swipe down to bring down the bar.
2) It's buggy as hell. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it about three times now. Sometimes it doesn't register my clicks, sometimes it brings about the crazy screen problem, and sometimes it just doesn't try to load my pages.
I just wish the stock android browser had tabs implemented.
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
The ability for fullscreen mode. That's most important to me as I don't want the notification bar to waste space and to prevent further lcd screen burn in for my N1.
Although that feature is broken in the recent version but a fix is coming.
kolyan said:
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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no one uses xscope?
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I do. Downloaded X-Scope and Dolphin the same day. There was something Dolphin did that I did not like, but can't remember what it was. But it was often enough it annoyed me. Never had an issue with X-Scope
Love xscope lite. Looks great, great features. many people don't know this but you can set up Flash to run automatically vs. "on demand"
I wasn't sure if all the browser improvements on 2.2 were just for the stock browser but doesn't seem anyone has noticed a difference in speed between stock and alternatives.
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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Not sure what you mean by text reflow, but I set it to "wide" in one of the settings and it made the xda forums look exactly the same as dolphin/stock browser.
Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
funny, i expected something from you guys as my questions are one of the common questions...or is someone can't be bothered here to help me out? ...
shad0wboss said:
Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
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1. No idea...
2. Its safe, no worries, slideit is imo the best keyboard. But there are a lot of alternatives.
3. The stock launcher is in sleep I assume, with Home Switcher you can swop. When only 2 or 3 launchers installed your system doesnt lag. Or you can freeze it with titanium backup, not sure if it can do any harm when you freeze your stock launcher.
4. Try miren browser, it is really good.
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thanks alot for your help, really appreciated it.
About the youtube stock app, what i basically mean is that, when a youtube video on computer on any browser...is loaded completely (red color strip). You can freely move the circle thing within the red color stripped which basically mean that that part is loaded can be be watched freely. BUT with my stock youtube application, that's not how it works. If i move the cursor a bit, it just hangs there and then i have to start the video from the beginning, loading and alll that. So i wanted to know if there's a good alternative youtube app with cache? so that once the video is loaded (when connected to internet), you can watch it even if you have no internet connection at that time...
So I'm thinking about getting this phone. I'm wondering how well video chat (Skype specifically) and either btunes or Player Pro work on it. if anyone does use bTunes, does the camera button control function work in it? a short list of apps I'd really liek to knwo about, if anyone has used them on this phone:
No Lock (I know Sense has a clever lock screen, but I hate lock screens in general)
Wave Launcher
bTunes
Player Pro
Skype
No Lock
I'd also love to know if anyone has had other compatibility problems with other apps as well that I haven't mentioned, any at all. especially games. I'll be switching to a Sense phone from a stock gingerbread phone (Samsung transform Ultra), so compatibility could be a pit fall for me.
Hey, so of all those apps the only one that I have is Skype.
I am pretty amazed by how well it works. The video quality is excellent both ways, but the front facing camera does struggle a bit more in low light versus a normal webcam. Skype is fairly reliable. The video stream is clear, sound quality is good and all in all it works well. I Skyped with my friends on both Wifi and 4G for over an hour, it did however freeze a couple of times however it was difficult to tell if it was because of my phone, or the person I was Skyping with.
Can you elaborate on compatibility issues? The only "compatibility issues" I have ran into with applications regard LCD density and not being able to download from the Android Market. I changed my phone to have an LCD density of 160 rather than 240 using PropModder, and that prevented me from downloading applications like Facebook, and pretty much everything else - a simple change and reboot fixed the issue though.
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Hey, so of all those apps the only one that I have is Skype.
I am pretty amazed by how well it works. The video quality is excellent both ways, but the front facing camera does struggle a bit more in low light versus a normal webcam. Skype is fairly reliable. The video stream is clear, sound quality is good and all in all it works well. I Skyped with my friends on both Wifi and 4G for over an hour, it did however freeze a couple of times however it was difficult to tell if it was because of my phone, or the person I was Skyping with.
Can you elaborate on compatibility issues? The only "compatibility issues" I have ran into with applications regard LCD density and not being able to download from the Android Market. I changed my phone to have an LCD density of 160 rather than 240 using PropModder, and that prevented me from downloading applications like Facebook, and pretty much everything else - a simple change and reboot fixed the issue though.
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Well, on the sidekick for example, Samsung changed the colors of menus and the notification drop down menu background, so if an app uses dark colored text, its difficult or impossible to see on the menu background that's also dark. It gets quite annoying. Also, no lock would often fail to block the lock screen, since it was altered by samsung, and i know sense has a diff lock screen as well. (If all these OEMs insist on modding android so much, why cant they give us an option to disable the lock screen natively for those who dont like it?)
So does anyone know about the other Apps, especially No Lock and Wave Launcher? I use those two ALOT.
Sorry to go off topic...but CM7 has the option to disable the lockscreen.
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hmmm, did not know that. seems like at least those guys have some sense to them. I hope CM or a stable AOSP rom is on this thing soon, mine arrives tomorrow.
Don't have any of the apps in particular, but I've been using the phone for a few months now and haven't had any compatibility issues yet (that weren't fixed by the ROM developer).
It's been reported that changing the LCD density of this phone will cause app incompatibilites as mentioned earlier though. As long as you avoid that, I think you shouldn't have a problem.
I have plenty of games that I've played on the phone and all has worked so far. The only one not compatible so far is Asphalt.
Cm7 is pretty nice, also u can install the gapps and gapps-gtalk extra package when installing cm7, and the video call of gtalk will work well probably.I've tested it with a pc and this phone, videochat was flawless with the front camera.
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So this morning I noticed that 8.0 is available for my device, single SIM XZ Premium. So I immediately upgraded.
After testing things out, I found out that there is no way to get notification dots and PiP to work.
As for the dots, the dot does appear on the App icon. However long pressing the icon doesn't bring up any notifications. I only get the standard delete and app info options. And for certain apps the quick launch functions, such as New Tab for Chrome etc. I can't get notification dots to work. I made sure I didn't disable it accidentally, as it took me a couple of hours to comprehend what the hell notification channels are, and what Notification dots are called in my language (hungarian).
But no, I have it enabled on a system level, and on an app by app level as well. For the apps I've tested. Messenger, Viber, some misc. apps I use. I've read that on Pixel phones, only the stock launcher supports the dots. Is it possible somehow the Xperia stock launcher didn't get support? Would be a major oversight, but I mean it is possible.
Also PiP doesn't work either. I checked, and it is enabled for all my apps that support it. Tried it with Netflix, Chrome playing full screen video, VLC player. For VLC you have to also enable an in app setting, but it still doesn't work with any of them. I can't try with YouTube since my country still doesn't have Red. Also I heard the Google Maps app is still rolling out pip in updates, so I didn't bother with that either.
Is this an issue for anyone else too, or am I missing something?
So far I'm enjoying Oreo, my phone became super fast, which shocked me, as I didn't expect this much of a speed difference. Animations look a lot smoother. And I'm really starting to dig this new notification channel thing. Really helps me customize all my different app notifications.
I have only been able to get pip working with google maps and chrome when playing a video, but I had to try it twice for chrome to actually do it, since then it has been working without issue though. For notifications I have the same thing where the quick options show up but not the notification, to view the notifications I still have to pull down the notification bar. I tried netflix and youtube but pip refused to work, it just kept going to the homescreen, I haven't tried vlc.
I will also say that I am enjoying Oreo and how much faster the phone is, it shocked me as well because it really is significantly snappier when jumping between apps or going back to the homescreen and opening something new. I have also actually started using the google assistant and some of the features it provides.
Just install internet beta from Samsung... And you have picture in picture...
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I have only been able to get pip working with google maps and chrome when playing a video, but I had to try it twice for chrome to actually do it, since then it has been working without issue though. For notifications I have the same thing where the quick options show up but not the notification, to view the notifications I still have to pull down the notification bar. I tried netflix and youtube but pip refused to work, it just kept going to the homescreen, I haven't tried vlc.
I will also say that I am enjoying Oreo and how much faster the phone is, it shocked me as well because it really is significantly snappier when jumping between apps or going back to the homescreen and opening something new. I have also actually started using the google assistant and some of the features it provides.
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Interesting. I've tried out Maps just now and it indeed does work. I don't know what's the problem with the other apps then...
Notification dots still don't work though. Also I haven't been able to use the instant apps either. The option never comes up. Wish shopping app supposedly has an instant app version, but no matter what, I can't use it in instant version, Only full install.
Also adaptive icons aren't that adaptive, as the stock Xperia launcher has no option to choose which icon variation I want to use (square, round, teardrop etc)
I also haven't been able to figure out how to use the Autofill framework, which would give me the same options for autofill within the OS as I get with Chrome on web forms.
These features seem to be just straight up missing, or I don't know where to find them.
reiriop said:
I have only been able to get pip working with (...) chrome when playing a video, but I had to try it twice for chrome to actually do it, since then it has been working without issue though.
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How did you do that by the way? I'm trying, but I can't seem to do it. I almost got it once, but the PiP auto closed as soon as the transition animation finished. Tried it with Chrome and Chrome Beta.
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Just install internet beta from Samsung... And you have picture in picture...
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This applies only to the browser scenario, and NoChromo is better. Also, biometric login not supported on non-samsung devices = useless.
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How did you do that by the way? I'm trying, but I can't seem to do it. I almost got it once, but the PiP auto closed as soon as the transition animation finished. Tried it with Chrome and Chrome Beta.
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I went to a gaming site that I knew had videos, once there I started playing a video in full screen and then double tapped the home button and it put the video in pip mode. Maybe it only works with certain websites or online video players? I will try a couple other sites and see if they all work or not.
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This applies only to the browser scenario, and NoChromo is better. Also, biometric login not supported on non-samsung devices = useless.
I went to a gaming site that I knew had videos, once there I started playing a video in full screen and then double tapped the home button and it put the video in pip mode. Maybe it only works with certain websites or online video players? I will try a couple other sites and see if they all work or not.
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Sorry... For me internet beta is very fast... And i have picture in picture... And no ads on.... And no lag when scrooling...
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I went to a gaming site that I knew had videos, once there I started playing a video in full screen and then double tapped the home button and it put the video in pip mode. Maybe it only works with certain websites or online video players? I will try a couple other sites and see if they all work or not.
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Okay I managed to make it work with IGN videos in Chrome. So it does work after all... sort of. I think we can still agree this isn't working as intended, the fact we have to pry to make it work.
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Sorry... For me internet beta is very fast... And i have picture in picture... And no ads on.... And no lag when scrooling...
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Do you not know what NoChromo is? I have no problem with speed,pip,ads, or scrolling.
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Okay I managed to make it work with IGN videos in Chrome. So it does work after all... sort of. I think we can still agree this isn't working as intended, the fact we have to pry to make it work.
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Ya there seems to be something missing here, hopefully they will fix this within the next couple of weeks. I was really looking forward to using pip with video streaming apps.
Is there any way to use YouTube in PIP mode?
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I can't move apps in menu wtf? When I press and hold app and move its go to home...
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Is there any way to use YouTube in PIP mode?
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I can't move apps in menu wtf? When I press and hold app and move its go to home...
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That's what we're saying, we can't get pip to work with youtube, netflix, or vlc. I really want to use pip mostly for youtube and netflix, so until I am able to do that I really don't care that much about this feature.
You can still move or delete apps in the menu, but you can now decide what press + hold on an app does when going to the settings of the app folder/launcher.
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I have downloaded Nova launcher and Lawnchair launchers, and neither seems to support the Oreo features, but instead it seems they have their own implementation of app shortcuts and badges.
So the problem has to be with the Xperia Home launcher.
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Is there any way to use YouTube in PIP mode?
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Youtube currently blocked the workaround with the 'window' keycode. however there's OG Youtube - it's a modded youtube which has a recent youtube version as base. It has PiP, background playback and an option to download the video. Although the PiP is what i'm looking for. So far there are no downsides. You need to get XDA labs which has a pretty cool repo.
Try it here https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.google.android.ogyoutube
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That's what we're saying, we can't get pip to work with youtube, netflix, or vlc. I really want to use pip mostly for youtube and netflix, so until I am able to do that I really don't care that much about this feature.
You can still move or delete apps in the menu, but you can now decide what press + hold on an app does when going to the settings of the app folder/launcher.
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PIP works with VLC. Enable background playback in VLC settings . Only thing is it doesn't work like chrome where you just have to press the home button. In this case you have to select PIP mode(bottom left option in the attached screen shot) before you switch to any other app.
You need youtube red subscription for pip.
1. PiP works fine. Though you need a red subscription for Youtube in order for it to work with Youtube.
2. Instant apps work fine for me. There was this tetris game I was able to play without installing.
3. Autofill works fine too.
4. Long tapping the app icon doesn't seem to bring up notifications. Disappointing, since I was really looking forward to that feature.
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1. PiP works fine. Though you need a red subscription for Youtube in order for it to work with Youtube.
2. Instant apps work fine for me. There was this tetris game I was able to play without installing.
3. Autofill works fine too.
4. Long tapping the app icon doesn't seem to bring up notifications. Disappointing, since I was really looking forward to that feature.
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There are plenty of features that are not here..... Another obvious example is the xperia dialer app. which is on the same 3.0.0 version as it was in August and looks nothing like it's advert.
It's more of a marketing thing. Look here! Look here! Shiny!Yet I believe most of those presented features will arrive at some point in time under Oreo and that's why they were presented - not as a done thing but more of a 'soon to arrive'. FYI notification dots are still not available on the beta release. Hopefully more updates will come.... sometime.... maybe spring next year? :laugh:
Didn't know PiP required YouTube red, useless, it's like YouTube is trying to destroy itself with everything they do recently.
It seems like we are in a full beta test, and would go on until oreo 8.1 would be released.... It's astonishing Google Pixel and Pixel 2 have a lot of problems and bugs with oreo update XD