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hey guys,
I saw winmo devs OCing this same Magic's CPU up to 800Mhz with great performance boost.
any one could reach same with android OS so far?
URL: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7461
thnx!
first off, the touch pro 2 isn't a magic. at all.
second of all, this is completely wrong forum. please read rules.
third, it probably never will happen. someone did it a while back and there was a huge debate about whether it worked or not and it was finally confirmed that it didn't work.
I can't find the word magic anywhere in there!!! Damnitt!!
so it leads to this question,
How did you come to the assumption that you could OC the magic when nothing about the magic is there?
The cpu is the same on the magic...
Deviser said:
The cpu is the same on the magic...
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yup thats why I've asked...thanks!
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
Rugga said:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
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It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
renegadEEE said:
It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
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indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
rommark said:
indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
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No, it wouldn't. You're buying into the megahertz myth. The magic has a ARM11 (ARMv6) chip, whereas the N1 has a Cortex (ARMv7). It's more like a P3 against a P4 - the clockspeeds may match, but the performance is still going to be off. Not to mentium ARMv7 has a bunch of new instructions (NEON), that are not present on the v6. And the GPU still wouldn't support OpenGL ES 2.0. It may speed things up sure, but it wouldn't really matter.
sadly it's not the cpu preventing me from overclocking it! it's the software in the phone, the pll's are defined in the spl and it would take i SIGNIFICANT skill of hexing and backporting to do something about them! and by the way it would almost certainly brick the phone! i'm sorry guys the only thing i ever was able to play a litlle with was some parameters giving a little better gpu performance, but it's unstable
You think we can get this on the G1?
http://bit.ly/cNzpfv
Original Android <3ers! said:
You think we can get this on the G1?
http://bit.ly/cNzpfv
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simple answer: nope
RandumAccess said:
simple answer: nope
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
asb123 said:
Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
true that... even at 576 mhz it gets way too hot while using wifi... besides, the phone just locks up when you go over 650 mhz or so. i have tried. i dont think it can handle it.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
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Reread what you quoted. He said you can't do that.
ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
bestofrhcp said:
ummm... I have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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this guy just treated all of your lives! I love you bestofrhcp!
The thing is the moment runs at 800 Mhz stock so 1006-800= 200 Mhz overclock, or a 25% overclock. Our G1's were built for 385, but I've gotten mine stable up to 729, so an 89% overclock. Granted, the CPU inside the G1 was designed for 528 but HTC underclocked it for battery purposes, so it's only a 38% overclock. The samsung moment has a really crappy samsung chip (pre-hummingbird), but it should be able to squeeze out a few more mhz. I don't have much hope for anything more than 729 on our phones, at least not without an overvolt kernel and some sort of liquid cooling system.
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz
I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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Hehe It might be placebo but Raging Thunder 2 is MUCH more playable at 700 Mhz than at 528.
It is true that there is more to speed than clock rate, I'm not going to argue about that. A Core 2 due at 3.3 Ghz doesn't compare to a Core i3 at 2.2 Ghz, since the core i3 has more cores and is a more efficient platform. But a Core i3 at 1.6 Ghz in a netbook won't compare to a Core i3 at 2.4 Ghz in a desktop. Clock speed can make a big difference in performance. You can optimize all you want but using brute force helps out. Of course I only overclock when I want to play some 3D racing games and I'm close to a power source. I usually run it at 352 or 480.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Can you cook bacon on it?
1ghz would probably fry the whole motherboard :| What we really need is some ram, which will be no problem when I upgrade.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Why would you want to OC that much, I'm sure your battery last all of about 4 hours tops
Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
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Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
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Hi, Bryandeep -
While it is technically feasible, if the following is true:
The new processor is from the same chipset family, and
The new processor pinout is identical. and
The support chipsets can handle the higher speeds & currents, and
You can purchase the processor (or, get a manufacturer sample), and
You have access to and the talent for using a surface mount desoldering / soldering station.
... In reality, the answer is "No". You would be much better off (and probably a ton cheaper) to go buy the fastest and most powerful Android tablet that is available on the planet in about 3 months.
That's why you aren't seeing many (any?) posts on CPU "upgrades" for smartphones.
Hi guys,
Had a question, if anyone knows completely.
I spoke to HTC customer support twice, and both times they said the actual CPU speed is 2x 0.6Ghz and NOT 2x 1.2Ghz. (Which 1.2Ghz DualCore would imply)
Have I spoken to two idiots or are they right...?
I dont like the way it is advertised if they are right.
Liroy : Ok then I had one more question
Liroy : The CPU of the Sensation
Liroy : It states it is dual core, however, one of your collegues told me this is 2x 0.6Ghz
Liroy : I figured it would be 2x 1.2Ghz
Liroy : which one is correct?
Georgina: Our specification states: 1.2 GHz, dual core
Liroy : Yes.. So is that 2x 1.2Ghz or 2x 0.6Ghz?
Georgina: Each process will have 1.2 Ghz
Liroy : I'm sorry but I have to ask, is that due to the app splitting up in childs or simply because it can use *one* core of 1.2Ghz and another process can use the second core of 1.2Ghz, basically having 2 cores of 1.2Ghz each?
Liroy : I realise it's a rather technical question and not sure if you guys get such information but it is rather important to me, lol. I use the phone for it's processing capability's to the maximum really
Georgina: They both add up to 1.2GHz
Liroy : Okay, so it's not 1.2Ghz Dual Core but actually 2x 0.6Ghz and thus 0.6Ghz dualcore
Liroy : I'm sorry but the answers you are giving me leave a lot of room for the cores to be either 0.6Ghz each or 1.2Ghz each. If they add up to 1.2Ghz it means they are 0.6Ghz each
Georgina: yes they add up to 1.2GHz
Liroy : Hm... So the specifications of the Sensation device are actually not what HTC is advertising. That's not very nice :/
Georgina: I do apologise and will be passing this information on
Liroy : Ok, thank you and have a nice day
Georgina: Your welcome
Georgina: Thank you
Georgina: And you
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The person you talked to knows nothing about this (and follows the misnomer that you multiply the speed by the number of cores, but in this case, the complete opposite). It's 1.2 GHz per core.and no, youdont multiply or divide by the number of cores.
If HTC advertised by multiplying the core speed by the number f cores, they'd be in a ton of trouble for misleading advertising since no one in the industry does multi core stuff that way.
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The person you talked to knows nothing about this (and follows the misnomer that you multiply the speed by the number of cores, but in this case, the complete opposite). It's 1.2 GHz per core.and no, youdont multiply or divide by the number of cores.
If HTC advertised by multiplying the core speed by the number f cores, they'd be in a ton of trouble for misleading advertising since no one in the industry does multi core stuff that way.
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That is correct although I did have an old HP which was sold as 2 ghz dual core which turned out to be 2 1ghz cores. Still ubuntu overclocked them to 2ghz per core
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geoffcorey is right, you cant multiply or divide
Speed is still 1.2Ghz but with 2 cores.
Each core has its own cache and fsb. And can run parallel tasks/processes, which is faster than a single core.
Overclock?
HTC Sensation
Stock ROM - Rooted
Thank you all for your responses
Yes I know you cannot multiply or divide it, it doesnt mean it has 2.4Ghz or anything
Though, in theory it can process nearly twice as much as a 1.2Ghz single core.
But both HTC employees claimed it had 2 cores of 0.6Ghz each, totalling a total strength of 1.2Ghz.
I already thought it was ridicilous but well.. You start having doubts if 2 employees say so
liroyvh said:
But both HTC employees claimed it had 2 cores of 0.6Ghz each, totalling a total strength of 1.2Ghz.
I already thought it was ridicilous but well.. You start having doubts if 2 employees say so
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judging by the responses you got in the chat, you had some of the lowest level "tech support" you could have possibly found, reading a (quite horrible) script to you. Those people shouldn't even be "helping" people to troubleshoot imho.
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judging by the responses you got in the chat, you had some of the lowest level "tech support" you could have possibly found, reading a (quite horrible) script to you. Those people shouldn't even be "helping" people to troubleshoot imho.
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Thanks, I had the same idea.
She was pretty much dodging the question pretty much showing she didnt really know what was I was trying to ask.
Before that we were discussing the issue with the power button/lock screen (screen flashes) that multiple people have reported and she kept saying: That's unoffical HTC information.
Doh, it's on a discussion forum. And then she kept repeating: HTC does not know about this issue.
Told me to send my phone in for repair while multiple people are having issues since the update to the latest firmware.
Trying to explain this to her was... Well, it didnt solve anything.
Ohwell, hope they fix it sometime soon anyway
Thanks for your replies!
It's 1.2ghz dual core.. guess what?
liroyvh said:
Thanks, I had the same idea.
She was pretty much dodging the question pretty much showing she didnt really know what was I was trying to ask.
Before that we were discussing the issue with the power button/lock screen (screen flashes) that multiple people have reported and she kept saying: That's unoffical HTC information.
Doh, it's on a discussion forum. And then she kept repeating: HTC does not know about this issue.
Told me to send my phone in for repair while multiple people are having issues since the update to the latest firmware.
Trying to explain this to her was... Well, it didnt solve anything.
Ohwell, hope they fix it sometime soon anyway
Thanks for your replies!
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Don't trust half of what HTC 'support' say! If you want some fun and games with what they've said before then check out page four of this thread:
www.tinyurl.com/desiresfirmwareissues
..which also exists purely for the issues since the latest firmware update. You'll see some of the enjoyment we're getting courtesy of HTC.
It is actually 1.5Ghz dual core underclocked to 1.2Ghz, if you don't care about battery life (like me) 1.5 is the way to go , however you need a custom rom so there is a small chance that you might lose the warranty
does anyone know if setting the CPU SPEED to 1.5 GHz is dangerous while the SENSATION XL has the same chipset as the desire s has (Qualcomm Snapdragon MS8255) and the SENSATION XL's CPU speed is set to 1.5GHz .
sensation has msm8260 (dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz and adreno 220)
Sensation XL indeed has MSM8255.
Just like in PCs, chipsets in phones are binned not only by their type, but also by their target frequency. You don't go overclocking Core2Duo 1.8 GHz to 2.4 GHz because it's "the same CPU", right? Because it isn't the same CPU. The same applies here.
אז זה מסוכן או לא ?
English, please.
Answer - would you run the CPU on your computer at 1.5x the speed it was made to run, because there's CPU with the same name (i3/i5/i7/whatever) that runs at 1.5x the speed?
The same answer applies to your phone.
I expect people to be able to make minimal logic work with their own brains rather than just answering "yes/no". I think that this way people actually understand more than what they've asked for.
i guessed that was the answer but just wanted to be sure...
thanks anyway !
msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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No it won't. It depends on the specific part, and few parts run stock 1.5 GHz without stability issues surfacing / burning out very fast (if overvolted).
If you really want - you can try it on T-Mobile G2, that has MSM8255 of the earliest bin, with stock at 800MHz. Good luck, don't forget to write how did you like a phone as a toaster.
I suggest refraining from bad advice, especially when it's in the forum and it's not your phone you're talking about. You can burn your phones as much as you like, but don't go around suggesting it to others. Just let me understand something: you have stock non-rooted ICS and have no idea about such basics as which guide to use to downgrade, but you allow yourself posting about chipset frequencies?
so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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1.2 runs most things with no lag.
Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.
- Mark Knopfler.
The point is each chip is different even if the same model
What works for me on my device won't necessarily work for you
So test and see if your brave enough, but be aware of the consequences
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I overclock my ds to1.5 every time I play games and it doesn't even get warm. So I think it's pretty harmless.
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