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[Q] Samsung GS+ - 1st rom install

Hi guys, first post from me. I wish i could post this in the proper thread, but since i am new i am not allowed, so excuse me for the inconvenience.
I want to use custom roms to enhance my phone, i've been reading up in this forum and some video's on youtube. I've already rooted my phone before, so that part is out of the way.
Now here is my phone setup:
- Samsung Galaxy S Plus
fw= 2.3.5
baseband= I9001BOKP1
kernel= [email protected]#1
build= GINGERBREAD.BOK4
carrier= T-Mobile
- External SD Card, 486 MB
I just used the SD Card from my old Samsung phone (G-600)
The thing is, i have used Apps2SD to set apps to my SD card (the external one)
1.A: So if i am going to backup will that also be stored back to my SD after i format it?
1.B: Or is external SD card formatting not required for a fresh clean install?
The ROM i want to use is Cranium RC9
As i understand this ROM comes with a kernel as well, so..
2: should i do anything kernel related? (since it's my first time to install a ROM and all)
And finally..
3: What is the correct method for a 1st time/clean ROM installation?
If i look at the 1st post of the Cranium ROM thread, then i see install methods if you already have RC8. And the other method is for installing RC4. Please don't tell me i have to go through all the RC's to get to RC9 o_0
Thanks for at least reading this and hopefully some one can help me further on this

1.A When you backup, choose internal SD since backup has about 1GB of size if you have lots of apps. Go to feamod recovery 1.4, backup and restore then backup to internal sd card. When you finish ROM flashing restore your apps only in advanced restore.
1.B I don't think you have to format external sd, anyway you can back it up too.
2. I don't think so. The rom comes with a kernel..
3. For fresh ROM installation, Format system, data, and cache. You can also wipe dalvik cache. Then flash using ODIN or CWM, depending on the file. Reboot system and you can restore data only after going to cwm again.
You can also read fabsau's starter guide in our forum(i9001)..
In my opinion, try broodROM, comes with skyhigh kernel, ICS theme, beats audio, smoother scrolling and more..
If this helped press THANKS
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Thanks this was helpful to me

ROM Flashing

I am trying to flash Carbon 1.6 onto my Verizon GS3 but don't really know how and would prefer not to soft brick...again. I am backed up, rooted with unlocked bootloader. How do I go about flashing the ROM (Carbon or any others)? I have CWM touch recovery installed.

mfharris said:
I am trying to flash Carbon 1.6 onto my Verizon GS3 but don't really know how and would prefer not to soft brick...again. I am backed up, rooted with unlocked bootloader. How do I go about flashing the ROM (Carbon or any others)? I have CWM touch recovery installed.
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goo.im/devs/carbon

If you've done a nandroid in recovery, just download the rom like the above user suggests and follow the rom instructions in the respective thread. Typically, you would need to
1) boot into recovery and wipe System and Factory Reset (maybe Format data, whichever does not wipe internal sd)
2) install the zip from internal or external sd card
Its a fairly simple process. Just make sure your contacts are synced to Gmail before you flash a rom.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
If you've done a nandroid in recovery, just download the rom like the above user suggests and follow the rom instructions in the respective thread. Typically, you would need to
1) boot into recovery and wipe System and Factory Reset (maybe Format data, whichever does not wipe internal sd)
2) install the zip from internal or external sd card
Its a fairly simple process. Just make sure your contacts are synced to Gmail before you flash a rom.
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I downloaded the ROM, but it was only ~150mb, no where near big enough to be a complete ROM, thought maybe I was missing something.

mfharris said:
I downloaded the ROM, but it was only ~150mb, no where near big enough to be a complete ROM, thought maybe I was missing something.
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150mb sounds about right, remember that it's an AOSP ROM, which includes much less than a TW ROM. If you're still sketch about it, check the md5 you have with the one on goo.im to see if they match.
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thesoldier said:
150mb sounds about right, remember that it's an AOSP ROM, which includes much less than a TW ROM. If you're still sketch about it, check the md5 you have with the one on goo.im to see if they match.
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This is very true. Most AOSP roms are around 150MB. TW based roms can be over 1GB, but are usually around 700-900MB.
All you have to do is:
1. Save it to your SD card in, say, "download."
2. Reboot into CWM
3. Select Wipe data/factory reset ==> Yes, wipe data ==> Mounts & Storage ==> Format /system ==> Yes, format system ==> Wipe Cache ==> Yes, wipe cache ==> Advanced ==> Wipe Dalvik ==> Yes, wipe dalvik
4. Select Install zip from SD card==> Choose zip from SD card ==> "Browse to, and select your zip" ==> Install zip ==> Yes, Install zip
5. Once complete, flash Gapps in the same manner, following step 4, reboot, enjoy.
P.S. If you want to flash a custom kernel, you do it just the same as you did the rom and the gapps, following step 4. You can flash the kernel before OR after the gapps, but it MUST be done AFTER the rom.

[Q] Custom recovery question.

Hey guys, this question is specific to the oneplus one or just simply any phone without an sd card. I owned a galaxy s4 in the past and the sd card was very useful because i would copy the rom i wanted to flash on the sd card and then using a custom recovery before flashing the rom i would WIPE THE WHOLE DEVICE (not including the ext sd card) then i would 100% clean install roms... but how would i do that with the oneplus? If i wipe the whole phone my zip file will also be gone so is there a way around this? When i flash roms i like to clean the whole device and not just wipe dalvic and cache.... Thanks!

[Q] Low internal Memory - Clean slate?

I am currently running CM12.1 on a 16gb version of Verizon GS3. I have less than 500MB (see attached screenshot) after updating from an older version of a JellyBeans ROM. I've gone through the normal steps to remove backup files, ROM files, clear cache, etc, but I still have low internal storage. What is the process wiping the internal memory in order to start with a "clean slate" and then re-install CM12.1? I want to make sure I don't do anything to brick my phone, so please be specific, I have some ROM flashing experience, but I'm not exactly a pro at this, so I need details or a video to help this dummy out. Thanks in advance!
p_patterson

p_patterson said:
I am currently running CM12.1 on a 16gb version of Verizon GS3. I have less than 500MB (see attached screenshot) after updating from an older version of a JellyBeans ROM. I've gone through the normal steps to remove backup files, ROM files, clear cache, etc, but I still have low internal storage. What is the process wiping the internal memory in order to start with a "clean slate" and then re-install CM12.1? I want to make sure I don't do anything to brick my phone, so please be specific, I have some ROM flashing experience, but I'm not exactly a pro at this, so I need details or a video to help this dummy out. Thanks in advance!
p_patterson
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Would I be correct in thinking you have CWM recovery installed? I am not actually familiar with the capabilities of recent CM recoveries, the last I used was for my 5 y/o SGS Captivate.
First have a copy of your nandroid or a fresh zip of the ROM on your external sdcard, have GAPPS here also. If CWM will permit, wipe /system and /data in addition to cache and dalvik cache. I have seen some refer to wiping /system as formating the internal sdcard. (I have seen others state that doing a factory reset with the stock recovery gives the cleanest device, but most needing this were going back to a TouchWiz based ROM after being on LP.)
You then reflash your ROM and GAPPS.

So many years on forum, still many times i manage to brick/bootloop my phone.. Help!

I need some explanation to make things clear..
1) First and most important. If you want to make a clean install, what you have to wipe? Should you format data also, and why? Format data affects system? Can you format data and still boot into rom? When you format/wipe all, is there something left in the phone? If no, then why still i can see in mount settings, that the folders still have Mb/Gb inside them? What are they? I guess you can';t delete everything from the phone? For example now i am stuck on custom animation bootloop. So there is still data left.
2) Format data make your encrypted or decrypted? Or just removes all encryption and if a) you install a rom you go automatically encrypted, b) you install a rom and flash no_verity you go decrypted?
3) If i go decrypted, the only way to go encypted is to install stock OS and why?
4) When is necessary to have the stock rom flashed in order to flash custom rom afterwards? If you want to install a different android version from the one that you have? Any other reason? Is it necessary to install the whole stock image, or just enough to install firmware + radio?
5) If you wipe/format all, the phone has some firmware,radio,vendor etc stored inside or it's empty 100%?
6) Is it 100% safe to install a TWRP through TWRP?
And now let's say the problem i had. But i think i know where was the problem.. I had installed android pie + xXx no_limits on my oneplus5 and i was decrypted. Some months later i decided to try something else, so i installed an AOSP android 10 version. I just wipe/format system,data,dalvik,cache then flashed rom, gapps, magisk. But i had some bugs on this version, lags and huge battery drain. Also whenever i was booting into TWRP it moved me on Mount --> Decrypt screen.. And i don't know why?
Now that i try to figure i know that the problem was i install a custom android 10 rom, without first installing the android 10 stock rom? In order to get the proper firmware etc? Or what? The instructions for installing the rom are the following, which i followed them 100% :
NOTE:
WE ARE ENCRYPTED (FILE BASED FORCED ENCRYPTION). So if you are unencrypted format data partition or use any no_verity solution you want. We don't support it.
1. Download the ROM and GApps and transfer them to your device.
2. Boot to recovery (TWRP recommended). Bluspark twrp recovery recommended.
3. Wipe the System, Cache, and Data (you might need to format the data partition in some cases!).
4. Flash firmware. Actual one is 9.0.11. Download.
5. Flash the ROM Zipfile.
6. Reboot to TWRP recovery.
7. Flash the GApps (optional, needed for e.g. Google Playstore to work) and Magisk (optional too if you want a root solution).
8. Reboot and set up your device.
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The ROM should contain everything you need to enjoy Android Q. You don't need to install any Add-ons, simply download the latest ROM and GApps, then follow the flashing instructions and go!
If you want the device to run the ROM "rooted", you can flash a root solution of your choice after the ROM Zipfile.
It is STRONGLY recommended to fully wipe your device before flashing and please avoid restoring system apps and system data with Titanium Backup (or with any backup/restore app) as this can cause stability issues that are very hard to debug, restoring regular apps is fine though.
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The only system app i restored was the Vanced youtube, but i don't this is the source of my problems.
Thanks in advance!

Guys i think i cleared some things on my mind..
When you install a rom you go encrypted. So you have to FORMAT data RIGHT AFTER installing the rom and then flashing no_verity? Am i right? When you format data do you lose Magisk also?

lazostat said:
I need some explanation to make things clear..
1) First and most important. If you want to make a clean install, what you have to wipe? Should you format data also, and why? Format data affects system? Can you format data and still boot into rom? When you format/wipe all, is there something left in the phone? If no, then why still i can see in mount settings, that the folders still have Mb/Gb inside them? What are they? I guess you can';t delete everything from the phone? For example now i am stuck on custom animation bootloop. So there is still data left.
2) Format data make your encrypted or decrypted? Or just removes all encryption and if a) you install a rom you go automatically encrypted, b) you install a rom and flash no_verity you go decrypted?
3) If i go decrypted, the only way to go encypted is to install stock OS and why?
4) When is necessary to have the stock rom flashed in order to flash custom rom afterwards? If you want to install a different android version from the one that you have? Any other reason? Is it necessary to install the whole stock image, or just enough to install firmware + radio?
5) If you wipe/format all, the phone has some firmware,radio,vendor etc stored inside or it's empty 100%?
6) Is it 100% safe to install a TWRP through TWRP?
And now let's say the problem i had. But i think i know where was the problem.. I had installed android pie + xXx no_limits on my oneplus5 and i was decrypted. Some months later i decided to try something else, so i installed an AOSP android 10 version. I just wipe/format system,data,dalvik,cache then flashed rom, gapps, magisk. But i had some bugs on this version, lags and huge battery drain. Also whenever i was booting into TWRP it moved me on Mount --> Decrypt screen.. And i don't know why?
Now that i try to figure i know that the problem was i install a custom android 10 rom, without first installing the android 10 stock rom? In order to get the proper firmware etc? Or what? The instructions for installing the rom are the following, which i followed them 100% :
The only system app i restored was the Vanced youtube, but i don't this is the source of my problems. Formatting data does not effect system in most cases.
Thanks in advance!
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1) a clean install involves wiping system, data, cache and dalvik cache. All of these partitions must be wiped in order to remove data things that might conflict with the new software that you intend to flash. Yes, you can wipe data and still boot into your ROM. Yes, there are things still on the phone even after wiping the device, but, the things left behind are in partitions that are separate from what you can actually wipe, these other, separate partitions contain all the other stuff that is essential for your device to be able to function. These parts have nothing to do with the ROM that you are using and have nothing to do with what you have installed in your data partition. TWRP does not wipe /data/media partition(internal storage), /data/media is where your personal user data is stored, such as, photos, videos, downloaded files, data from apps such as games, etc. Basically, /data/media contains things that you have stored that are not apps. Your internal storage will still have all the files and folders that were there before you did the wipe. If you want to wipe internal storage, you have to specifically select your internal storage when you use TWRP to wipe the device, it will not wipe internal storage by default. If you still have a custom animation even after wiping the device, it is probably because the boot animation is in your system partition, that can only be removed by selecting the /system partition when using TWRP to wipe the device.
2) Formatting data "should" remove encryption. No, flashing a new ROM after removing encryption will not encrypt the device again unless you specifically choose to encrypt the device in its settings. Flashing no verity only eliminates issues involved with rooting a device and getting root to actually work without corrupting the device.
3)I'm not sure but I think you can encrypt a device without using stock.
4) It depends on which device you have, what your current firmware version is and what you are trying to flash. Some devices require a certain firmware to be installed before flashing certain custom ROMs but it is a case by case scenario. There is no specific answer to this, there is only the question of whether your specific device requires this or a question of whether the custom ROM that you are trying to flash requires this. This is best answered by reading the thread where the ROM is posted, if your device requires installing a certain stock firmware before flashing the custom ROM, it will tell you that somewhere in the thread for that ROM. Whether you need to install the entire firmware or just parts of the firmware also depends on which device you are using in some cases, you might only need the modem or only the bootloader or maybe both, or maybe none, or maybe the complete firmware.
5) As I stated above, there are partitions on the device that do not get wiped when using TWRP to wipe the device. If it wiped EVERYTHING, the device would no longer function at all, it wouldn't be able to power on, it wouldn't be able to boot into any of its modes and you wouldn't be able to flash anything at all on the device, not even it's original stock firmware. There are software elements that MUST remain on the device in order for it to continue to function.
6) It is perfectly safe to use your existing version of TWRP to flash another TWRP version, assuming the new TWRP is also built for your specific model number.
If you have installed a custom ROM and you are having issues, you need to go to the thread where you got the ROM and post your issues/questions there. The users there will know more about your device and what you actually need to do and the developer may also need to fix things in their ROM to solve the issues that you are experiencing.
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