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Definitive Battery Thread

Hello everyone!
I've spent the past week doing as much research as possible into what type of battery to buy for my G2 and i've come across alot of information to say the least. Alot of opinions, alot of useless data, and some useful data. I just wanted to summarize this info for everyone. And add any new information that people post in the thread below, including battery life data.
Popular Batteries:
- The Mugen 1800mAh - $45 (1400mAh in testing)
- The Senido 1750mAh - $50 (1400mAh in testing)
- The HTC 1500mAh 35H00123-11M (-00M).. Also known as the TP2/EVO battery - $7 (1500mAh in testing)
- The CHICHITEC 1800mAh - $20/each or $40 for 2 + Charger (untested)
Research:
- Mugen and Seido seem to have EXTREMELY inconsistent mAh ratings, HTC seems to be the most consistent.
- On the other hand, trying to compare these battery assuming constant maximum power draw is a little unfair.
The one thing that seems constant is that HTC's battery's perform as expected in every environment and over time, whereas the third partys seem to be able to pull values closer (somewhat) to what they advertise under certain conditions. Not to mention that we have no knowledge regarding the long-term affects of the 'tuning' that these third party companies have done.
We gotta realize that most battery's are using the same cell or the same knock-off cell, and we can't really expect to much of an increase in mAh in this battery form-factor.
Installation Issues:
A lot of these battery's will need to be modified to fit our phones in one way or another as they're meant for the EVO 4G/Incredible/TP2/MyTouch3gSlide/CDMAHero.. Even the ones that are labeled as "G2 Compatible" might not be as a lot of the 'higher capacity' cells have identical dimensions.
Removing the Wrapper around the battery might assist with door bulge
If you feel like you have to aggressively 'wedge' the battery in then you might want to remove/modify the little nub's at the bottom of the battery near the contacts using nail clippers/dremel/knife. Otherwise you run the risk of damaging the cell-side charging contacts.
Some of the hardcore guys in here have sanded down the battery to have a good fit
The 'fit' differs from phone to phone depending both on the dimensions of each specific battery (not the actual brand or company, but each individual battery seems to be a little bit different) and the G2 Door.
If you leave the door bulging indefinitely it might damage the door in some way, it's recommended that you remove the door and just use a case if it's a major problem for you.
Tips:
- After installing the new battery, remember to reset the battery calibration through your recovery. This affects how many times you feel the need to "cycle it through" before achieving optimal battery life.
- Don't believe the temperature sensor on 3rd Party batteries
- Individual "Before and After" stories are cool, but not that useful considering all the variables involved with the hardware, the radio & signal, the software, and the human being (placebo affect). Aggregating all the data together does give us some picture of whats going on.
- The best tell for battery quality is the weight of the battery compared to your stock one, although this is not a guaranteed method.
Conclusion
After reading through as many threads as I could find regarding this topic, It seems that the CHICHITEC batteries have come to be the most popular across all these HTC phones. While the 1500mAh HTC EVO battery seems like the best deal with the most consistent power output.
The average perceived benefit using these batteries seems to be between 30-20%.
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All Corrections Welcome, All Data Welcome!

Fantastic initiative. Unfortunately I only have the stock at the moment and I can't comment.
Did u mean Seidio or Sendio??
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Thanks, this really is usefull and spares us who are still trying to figure out wich battery they want, alot of time!

For CHICHITEC 1800mAh battery, is it safe to shave off the piece allowing the battery to be a perfect fit? Such as trying to use a nail clipper and clip it off.

Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.

Gravityrat said:
Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.
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sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?

I'm thinking about getting Mugen 1800mAH, but people are having mixed results. Maybe one day we'll get HTC made OEM battery.

G1_enthusiast said:
sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?
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It's in my signature. lol
CM 6.1.1 I absolutely love it. Tried the CM 7 but don't like it yet.

im on 10 hours of uncharge, so far its been light use, uncluding 1 hour and 30 min of GPS some texting, surfing and HTC updates

Thanks for compiling this info. I've had greatly improved life with the 1800mAh Mugen, but wasn't aware of the inconsistency some people are seeing.
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How did u test them?
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I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.

Nighte said:
I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.
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Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?

vittogn said:
How did u test them?
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Please run the same tests on the stock HTC 1300 mAh battery for reference.

I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Queue515 said:
Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?
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It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!

Nighte said:
It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!
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Cool, Thanks. There's a Mugen somewhere between HK and USA with my name on it.
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demster said:
I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Add the DX batteries.

dont buy!1800MAH battery Andida

I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff

shihte said:
I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff
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Thumbs up for the warning.
But...there is a saying that goes "if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is ".

shihte said:
I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff
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I understand the battery capacity number is hardcoded in the HD, so even if it were higgher capacity, it would still show that.
If you have a multimeter or other specialised equipment, that's the best way. Also, you'll need to run a few charging cycles to get a good comparison.
But anyway, cheap ebay batteries are just that. If you search this section, you will see tens of threads about fake batteries offering high capacity.
The only geniune high capacity battery is Mugen's, there are a couple of threads already about this battery.
(or buy a power-pack/recharger, eg 5000mah for €25-30)

today shows 1176mAh but i will visit tv repair centre.they have better tools then me.i let u know

shihte said:
today shows 1176mAh but i will visit tv repair centre.they have better tools then me.i let u know
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wow thats real ****...thanks for the warning...Ive heard issue on all the brands that make aftermarket battery...only the original HTC seems to be actually the best performing units.

Not only the stock battery is probably the best performing one, but also the safest. Always be aware of the expansion and the heat that cheap batteries produce. It can damage your phone easily.
As for the capacity measurement, if you drain/charge the battery with higher current, it will show less capacity. Still the measured 1176mAh is probably closer to the truth than the printed 1800mAh.

thanks man for the warning

bad results
after 4th charging still giving shorter performance then stock battery.i will stop at tv repair centre early in next week then post here their measurement.personally i won't expect more like 1200mAh

shihte said:
after 4th charging still giving shorter performance then stock battery.i will stop at tv repair centre early in next week then post here their measurement.personally i won't expect more like 1200mAh
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To compare the two batteries you should rate them in the same conditions. So if you can leave the stock battery with them to test them both and post the results I would be grateful.
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kelany said:
thanks man for the warning
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There was a thread for a third party battery expanding in the phone and pressing on the screen... scary
I can't understand why would someone put a 10 euro battery in 500 euro phone!
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Hi,
is there any other seriuos alternative on the market?
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Agreed, I bought one of these Andida batteries from eBay as well, had it in for a couple of months & i've now gone back to the original battery. In my opinion, it doesnt last as long as the stock HTC battery.

I´ve bought this battery last week over ebay and at the 1st day i was pleased, because the operating time with it seems better than with the original battery. But after five daily loading sessions the battery drain gets faster and faster. Yesterday, after 1,5 hours Angry Birds and a little time listening music it runs from 100 to 38%. Today i´ve installed the original battery back and i was surprised. After five days in the drawer of my desk it shows 99% accu state. I will stay at the original.

not 1800mAh
It has only 1170mAh

anyone find a good replacement with higher cap ?

Thanks for warning.

As far as i know there's nothing better then mugen's 1500 =(

Don't look just mAh's, they will not tell all. Also, if HTC's factory battery costs ~30€, who believe that the battery which costs 10 euros, can be better than the original..?
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Hi, always replace a battery with that recommended by the manufacturer ...

I have a replacement desire hd battery. It lasts about 25% less the the original one, and it is set "to be" 1600mAh strong lol

Extended battery?

I have an extended battery for my. Inspire(1850 mah) but it still doesn't help that much and I was wondering even though it is a unibody cover if there is an extended battery with a cover like the extended battery for the Google nexus 1
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hey let them completely discharge 3 times ( after it dies , wait about 5 minutes and power on the phone again let it power off)
don't let the battery charging over night . about a 3 hr and 30 mins to 4 hr will do.
i have a 1500 mA battery . it last me about a 1 with heavy use .( temple run , music , pandora , gps , text , photos , and reading )

Never try to let you batteries run completely dead. This will shorten the life of Li-Ion batteries. And feel free to let your batteries charge over night. When the battery gets charged fully the charging will stop or slow as needed. They will not overcharge. The charging systems of phones have their own regulation. Not sure where previous poster got his info. Guess his phone still uses NiCads.
Yet to see an extended battery for The Inspire with the custom cover. There is a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone but I can't remember the make. There was big talk when they were released but I hear little about them now.

Agoattamer said:
There is a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone but I can't remember the make. There was big talk when they were released but I hear little about them now.
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Powerskin. Never used it. Would have to give up my Defender. Some people like it.
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just looked up the powerskin looked siick gonna buy it

biglittlegato said:
Powerskin. Never used it. Would have to give up my Defender. Some people like it.
Sent using the power of the dark side.
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I knew someone would remember.

Agoattamer said:
Never try to let you batteries run completely dead. This will shorten the life of Li-Ion batteries. And feel free to let your batteries charge over night. When the battery gets charged fully the charging will stop or slow as needed. They will not overcharge. The charging systems of phones have their own regulation. Not sure where previous poster got his info. Guess his phone still uses NiCads.
Yet to see an extended battery for The Inspire with the custom cover. There is a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone but I can't remember the make. There was big talk when they were released but I hear little about them now.
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that i read , is not good to let the battery over charge , that has happened to me, i have let it over charge overnight , after that the battery life gets reduce, i have an app call current monitor , after the battery reach 4.209 V . if i let sit there charging, the voltage starts to go down . ( maybe is the app)
with a 3 hour charge , i get about a day use out of the cell phone . letting the battery died the first three time you put it in the phone , i was told by th rep of the company that sold me the item , like i said before i get pretty good battery life , even with heavy use , now that temple run is in android . even more fun ..

Not that its a huge improvement over 1850 but the best I've seen for the inspire are 2000mAh, I just kept searching on ebay in 100 mAh increments until I got no results.

robsquared said:
Not that its a huge improvement over 1850 but the best I've seen for the inspire are 2000mAh, I just kept searching on ebay in 100 mAh increments until I got no results.
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Sadly there are no "real" extended batteries for the inspire, they all have exaggerated
ratings, and the Powerskin is an external battery/case and I like my otterbox to much
to use it.

will1384 said:
Sadly there are no "real" extended batteries for the inspire, they all have exaggerated
ratings, and the Powerskin is an external battery/case and I like my otterbox to much
to use it.
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Yeah i ordered the Powerskin and am gonna get it in a few days I think that will be better than the extended battery
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Has anyone tried the monoprice usb battery packs? Thinking of picking one up but need to think of some other stuff to get with it first to justify the shipping.

In pretty sure my friend has one of those and i know it charges his phone in like a half hour when it's almost dead btw he has the Samsung infuse
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th3lawmak3r76 said:
In pretty sure my friend has one of those and i know it charges his phone in like a half hour when it's almost dead btw he has the Samsung infuse
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cool i'll have to pick one up

Be extra careful were you buy your extended life batteries from.. i ordered two and got what i paid for... they were 1850mAh which did last about 4 hours longer then the original but which one my camera didnt work... Said something to the tune of "Cannot use flash in cold weather conditions"... When i saw this for the first time i was like WTF its 80 degrees outside... then i changed batteries again and it worked... obviously something wrong in the battery.
It i probably worth spending a little more money on the battery to get better quality product.

saw this on ebay...2450mah
highest capacity ever for the HTC DESIRE HD or INSPIRE 4G
you can search on ebay for HTC DESIRE HD 2450mah...
not sure about it's performance, since it's made in china.

you are awesome
anthony0721 said:
highest capacity ever for the HTC DESIRE HD or INSPIRE 4G
you can search on ebay for HTC DESIRE HD 2450mah...
not sure about it's performance, since it's made in china.
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THank you is it gold?

LogicDeifying said:
THank you is it gold?
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Probably not.
According to the DHD community the Mugen is the only trustworthy one, and that's at around 1650mah. The ones you see online are rarely what they claim to be.

1800 Andida good

Basically Mugen and Anker are the only good extended batteries it seems, and even then they don't seem to help much. D: I still wanna pick up an extra battery just in case for long trips, etc.

Help with a new battery

I recently bought a new battery for my Desire.
I bought it here: http://www.ebay.it/itm/Batteria-Goo...0449218580?pt=IT_Accessori_Cellulari_Batterie
In the picture of the page the battery is 1400mAh, the one I received is 1600mAh.
By the way, the problem is that is has a strange behaviour:
the first 65% of the battery is consumed in a little time, the remaining 35% last a lot of time!
In addition before to shut down, the percentage continue going up and down near 18%.
Is the battery a low quality item (sure it is low price), but what can i do?
I tried to calibrate it with this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDMsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd

cheap and poorly made battery
cheap and poorly made battery...
i have one and use it as backup battery for long trips
could not find any way to make it show real charge values
so i measure it by time of use
not accurate but definitely cheap

So, it's better buying a new battery that can be calibrated...
Thanks for help!
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Cheap battery
Try to use for some days with full charge and check if there is any change...

So, can you advice me a new battery?
I want a standard dimension battery, that can fit in the place of stock battery.
Thanks!

smbo said:
So, can you advice me a new battery?
I want a standard dimension battery, that can fit in the place of stock battery.
Thanks!
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I recommend 1600mAh PolarCell Battery from eBay, seller is "wannsee-electronic" (Germany).:good: I can't post link because I have to little posts
I'm very satisfied with lasting of battery (double time than my 1.5 year old original), only thing is that I can't charge it till 100%, always stops on 99%. Even after formating battery stats and calibration. Actually I do not care.

Battery suggestion
Hey there
Very recently, I ordered an extended battery for my Desire. Here's the link:
w w w . amazon.fr/gp/product/B003ZVDX1Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
(I live in France, not french though, which explains why it's amazon.fr)
I still haven't received the battery, but the vendor reviews are all very encouraging, and it's pretty cheap compared to a Mugen battery.
If you live in the US, check out on amazon.com a vendor called Anker. They sell all kinds of batteries, at low prices and their products are apparently worth the try, at least that's what their reviewers say.
w w w . amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_wireless?_encoding=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Anker&node=2335752011[/url]
When I get the battery, I'll make sure to post here it's performances.
Hope I helped.
Caesar

Ok, thanks! I'll take a look!
By the way, after some cycles of charge, the battery continues to show "self charges".
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I want only standard battery, not bigger battery!
By the way, I think I will buy the polarcell.
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I bought one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Desire-Standard-Battery-1400mAh/dp/B003QQ28U0 almost 3 months ago and it has been great, get good performance and can actually let it go down to below 10% (my original battery would sometimes completely discharge from around 25%).

you may have bought our chinese second hand battery. some chinese factory bought second Li ion Batteries in a very low price and clean them, repack them then sell them in a higher price. so, be careful next time~
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smbo said:
I recently bought a new battery for my Desire.
I bought it here: http://www.ebay.it/itm/Batteria-Goo...0449218580?pt=IT_Accessori_Cellulari_Batterie
In the picture of the page the battery is 1400mAh, the one I received is 1600mAh.
By the way, the problem is that is has a strange behaviour:
the first 65% of the battery is consumed in a little time, the remaining 35% last a lot of time!
In addition before to shut down, the percentage continue going up and down near 18%.
Is the battery a low quality item (sure it is low price), but what can i do?
I tried to calibrate it with this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDMsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
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too low price...

Best aftermarket battery?

Hello
Im going to put a larger capacity battery in my Desire Z and I wanted some recommendations. Also, normal sizes (as in demensions); None that come with a additional cover to compensate for the normal size this making the phone bigger.

Ankers 1600mAh, lasts for me more than 2 days between charges. Got mine for a fiver off eBay, brand new.

HTCDreamOn said:
Ankers 1600mAh, lasts for me more than 2 days between charges. Got mine for a fiver off eBay, brand new.
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Mugan has a 1800mAh

riahc3 said:
Mugan has a 1800mAh
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yes and cost 3 ankers battery

mrbelou said:
yes and cost 3 ankers battery
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Hey, you get what you pay for...

riahc3 said:
Hey, you get what you pay for...
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I agree but 200mAh for a triple price?

This one's mine, and it works as it should.

mrbelou said:
I agree but 200mAh for a triple price?
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If its worth it...

Hi,
I'll also went with the Anker. 2 Days without charging even when using custom roms... Definetely a good choice for this Price!

riahc3, if you ask for advice, don't argue about there being higher capacity batteries, if you want the mugen go get it, but if you asked advice in the first place then don't get annoyed when people don't give you the answer you want to hear. Sorry, that's just the way I see it.
If you're after numbers rather than advice, take both. Look at my screenies, yeah I know I'm a light user, under clocked and had a sneaky charge in between but this was on CM10.1 build 15 which supposedly has battery problems, and as you can see I listened to music for a couple of hours as well. Also everyone else here has gotten at least 2 days between charge with Ankers.

battery info
I am also thinking about buying a new battery but I think that it doesn't matter how much mAh of the battery has. I think that real question is how will be after 6 months of usage. Most of these aftermarket batteries are start good but after few weeks or months they become useless. So we need real user feedback. Is there anyone who uses any of the aftermarket battery more than few months?
I've started to use JellyBaby v1.5 ROM and I've decided to buy new battery instead of new device.

turkert said:
I am also thinking about buying a new battery but I think that it doesn't matter how much mAh of the battery has. I think that real question is how will be after 6 months of usage. Most of these aftermarket batteries are start good but after few weeks or months they become useless. So we need real user feedback. Is there anyone who uses any of the aftermarket battery more than few months?
I've started to use JellyBaby v1.5 ROM and I've decided to buy new battery instead of new device.
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I've been using the Mugen battery for over two years now. Still get good battery life, although playing games drains it pretty fast. I can last two full days if I try, but it's pushing it. One day is easy.

2 day is sufficient
catachresistant said:
I've been using the Mugen battery for over two years now. Still get good battery life, although playing games drains it pretty fast. I can last two full days if I try, but it's pushing it. One day is easy.
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I don't know about battery life of iPhone 5, S3, Note2, etc but I think that under normal circumstances battery life of our phones should be 2 days.
Do you use home-screen widget or lock screen widget? Does they have any effect on battery life?

aftermarket battery? you're better off getting a oem, a lot of aftermarkets don't live up to the levels they advertise.
I recommend the evo 4g design battery, it fits perfect in our devices at a whopping 1520 mah compared to stock's 1300mah
http://www.shopandroid.com/htc-1520mah-standard-battery/8A37A9232.htm

A 200 mah difference wont matter
But 3 times stock mah means something
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=360339066447
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a bit off topic, but bought my t-mobile g2 from ebay, and it came up in 1450 battery, instead of 1300??

Get yoobao battery..last 40% longer than stock =]
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Mugen
Hi,
I had the Seidio one which was good and lasted for more than 1.5 years. Now I have the Mugen one and feel like it's gettimng worse after only 8 months.
Cheers, Ralf