Phone storeage (SDcard) backup - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

On my previous devices, I occasionally pulled out the removeable SD card, and ran a backup of the card to my laptop hard disk. I ended up with a 32GB card which was filled with music, videos, and work documents. So, I got the 32GB S III to have plenty of room. So now, generally, I have my music, documents, etc., on the S III internal 32GB SDcard as it is called. I have my videos and a few other huge items on the external removeable extSDcard.
Now the problem is, there is no practical way for me to back up the internal storage. It won't fit on what is left of my external card. I have a issues with my laptop so USB does not work, or is unreliable when it does, and too slow anyway. I don't really want to use the cloud. I have tried FTP, and it works, but clunky.
I'm thinking about getting an external hard disk and using an OTG cable. That is about the closest I can come to what I want.
Does anyone have any good solutions? I guess I could get a 64GB card, but if I got a 64GB card, I would prefer stuffing more videos and such on it, not wasting it for backup.
I'm rooted, simply so I could freeze some bloatware.

There are a bunch of questions I'd need an answer to before I could even begin to help:
What about your computer is making the USB connection spotty? Are the USB ports damaged?
What ROM are you running on your device?
What OS are you running on your laptop?
Are you familiar at all with adb? Do you have it set up to work on your laptop?
IMPORTANT: Backing up 32GB of data from anything to anything will take a long time. USB OTG will still run at USB speeds, so probably not much faster than trying to backup over USB to your laptop. Your best option will probably be something like my adb_bak2computer tool. Shameless plug I know, but its true. Well, only if you are running linux or mac (for now at least).
In the advanced options menu you can select "userdata" which will backup /data including your internal sdcard. I could write a new option to only backup the internal sdcard, actually I think I will.
Still, need answers to those questions.
Ta,
ALQI

USB is out. Long story, but basically, the laptop has an internal hub to drive all of the USB ports. A lot of devices refuse to cooperate when they are on the other end of a USB hub. Nice laptop other then that annoyance.

worwig said:
USB is out. Long story, but basically, the laptop has an internal hub to drive all of the USB ports. A lot of devices refuse to cooperate when they are on the other end of a USB hub. Nice laptop other then that annoyance.
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Most machines have a "USB hub" that drives multiple USB ports, so that shouldn't be a problem. Even if you were using an external USB Hub, and it was a powered hub, you should still be fine. Could be something wonky with your OS?
Anyhoo, if you've ruled out USB to your laptop, then its either some sort of Wifi file explorer (or wireless adb), or USB OTG.
Hope that helps,
ALQI

alquimista said:
Most machines have a "USB hub" that drives multiple USB ports, so that shouldn't be a problem. Even if you were using an external USB Hub, and it was a powered hub, you should still be fine. Could be something wonky with your OS?
Anyhoo, if you've ruled out USB to your laptop, then its either some sort of Wifi file explorer (or wireless adb), or USB OTG.
Hope that helps,
ALQI
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I'm not going to waste another minute on USB to the laptop. The USB has not worked on this laptop for years. I hope to purchase a new laptop early next year, or maybe a Surface Pro. Also, even when USB is working, I can't MOUNT it as a drive letter, so normal backup programs don't see it. I have to manually cut and paste. But that is all another story.
I really want to be able to MOUNT the S III SDcard as a drive over WiFi. That would be perfect. Then I could run an automatic backup script.

worwig said:
I really want to be able to MOUNT the S III SDcard as a drive over WiFi. That would be perfect. Then I could run an automatic backup script.
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I use an app called "FolderSync" that lets you sync whatever you want with a shared windows folder. I do this on a schedule to backup my internal and external SD cards over my home network. But it is kinda slow, so if you have 32gb then it could take all day if you are syncing for the first time.
I use FolderSync quite a bit because it also supports Dropbox and a bunch of other cloud services. It was well worth the money for the paid version, but there is a Lite version also. I don't know what the limitation are on that.

Bort76 said:
I use an app called "FolderSync" that lets you sync whatever you want with a shared windows folder. I do this on a schedule to backup my internal and external SD cards over my home network. But it is kinda slow, so if you have 32gb then it could take all day if you are syncing for the first time.
I use FolderSync quite a bit because it also supports Dropbox and a bunch of other cloud services. It was well worth the money for the paid version, but there is a Lite version also. I don't know what the limitation are on that.
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That sounds like the ticket. I'll try it for a while and report back.
EDIT: After a quick test, this looks to be nearly perfect. I can set it up to sync to my network drive (or about any other wireless storage) with ease. Thanks.

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Usb Mass Storage, how to?

Hi all,
How to use my Cruise as a Usb Mass Storage device? Are there any free alternatives to WM5torage (which does not work in WM6.1)?
I tried Diamond's UsbToPc cab, but it does not work. There's also nueusb (no2chem_usbtopc_mass_storage), but I can't find a cab for it, just OEM (and I don't know how to install it).
I know CardExport works, but it's not free.
I use Mocha FTP (free)
http://www.mochasoft.dk/freeware/ftpd.htm
works wireless or via USB.
Take NueMassStorage. it's perfect.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/Pocket-PC.aspx
NueMassStorage doesn't seems to work on my Polaris (stock ROM, WM6). Most of the time the device is, indeed, detected as mass storage, but without any actual storage volumes on it. Sometimes the PC actually detects a storage volume and mounts it, yet the mounted drive remains inaccessible/unreadable.
The only solution i found to work so far is Softick's card export, yet, it costs $14.95, this is comparable to a regular card reader price, while it's speed on Polaris is about 8 to 10 times slower than an average card reader, and is only a little bit faster than transferring files via activesync.
IMHO, just get one of those nifty cards that come with a small compact reader, and keep the reader on your keychain.
InfX said:
NueMassStorage doesn't seems to work on my Polaris (stock ROM, WM6). Most of the time the device is, indeed, detected as mass storage, but without any actual storage volumes on it. Sometimes the PC actually detects a storage volume and mounts it, yet the mounted drive remains inaccessible/unreadable.
The only solution i found to work so far is Softick's card export, yet, it costs $14.95, this is comparable to a regular card reader price, while it's speed on Polaris is about 8 to 10 times slower than an average card reader, and is only a little bit faster than transferring files via activesync.
IMHO, just get one of those nifty cards that come with a small compact reader, and keep the reader on your keychain.
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and what if he's homeless?
Hmmm
He wouldn't be able to charge his phone - unless of course he got a solar charger as part of his contract...Where would they send the bills?
nir36 said:
and what if he's homeless?
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pebsuk said:
He wouldn't be able to charge his phone - unless of course he got a solar charger as part of his contract...Where would they send the bills?
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quantom energized phone.

Best way to transer media to Captivate?

I transfered some pics to the phones internal storage using it as a mass storage. about 1000 pics and it took about 30 min. not only did it take long but they dont look the greatest on my phone. Am i doing something wrong? is there a better/faster way of transfering? using windows Vista btw.....
I put movies, music, pics, and other videos on my micro sd card and just insert that into the phone. Works perfectly fine!
thankfully my laptop has a built in card reader so i just use that to transfer files to an external micro sd card. its much faster than transferring over usb.
You could also install Swiftp and FTP to your phone over wireless.
The cable works well in my opinion and you need it to access the internal storage, If you go the card route make sure you unmount first or any open apps will immediate crash if they rely on any data on the card.
the other nice thing about the internal card is that you can keep all your app data on that and your media on the external and it keeps everything nice and clean.
and ofcourse when your external is full just continue on to the internal
if you use cubed (^3) for mp3, its awesome and can auto find album art, it'll automatically add from both sources
Unfortunately it won't be free forever, but it might be worth the investment. Doubletwist is a pretty excellent application. It's basically Itunes for Android.
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
acespaid said:
I transfered some pics to the phones internal storage using it as a mass storage. about 1000 pics and it took about 30 min. not only did it take long but they dont look the greatest on my phone. Am i doing something wrong? is there a better/faster way of transfering? using windows Vista btw.....
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that sounds like abnormally long write times.
Is your computer old? does it support usb 2.0?
have you enabled developer's console on your android and mounted your sd card via the notification menu when plugging your phone into your pc?
lastly, download samsung kies and get their drivers for the phone as well..
yes its 2.0. its an HP about 2 years old. maybe i didnt mount it, i cant remember. I just dragged and dropped. Wasnt sure if its an advantage using Kies or just doing the drag and drop method. Also is it better to keep everything off the internal if possible or does it matter? Just wondering how everyone transfers. tried to drop 3,000 songs the other day and it was like 3 hours! not at home right now so cant try it.

SD"2" Mount Issue

My first thread that I can call my own.
Question for you all. Is there an easier way to transfer files over the the GTAB then having to pop out the SD Card and put it into an adapter and then into the computer and then out of the computer, out of the adapter and back in the GTAB?
Because every time I mount the USB, it only mounts the "internal" SD Card. Is there some sort of way to get it to mount both the internal and external SD Card?
I hate messing with the external SD Card. All the "popping in and out" makes me nervous.
I even tried mounting the internal SD Card and then copying the movies/music/etc.. over to the external SD Card via a file manager... but that is DAMNNNNN slow.
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
That's exactly what I am worried about. LOL
I can just picture not paying 100% attention and snapping the card in half or, breaking the "locking" mechanism that holds the card in place.
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I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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If you have ADB, can you do adb pull or push?
Jim
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
The techie/hacker solution to easy file transfer is to use the Rsync for Android app in the market store. Once you have it setup, (not the easiest thing to do) it works great for moving files automated from your gtab back to an rsync server (my linux box to the rescue). I even have a secondary profile to get it to reverse rsync a specified directory FROM my linux box to my gtab. Presto -- easy file transfer via wifi!!!
Also, another idea might be to use Dropbox?
Jim
P0RT3R said:
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
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I do the same thing. It's mighty slow, but it works.
roebeet - an idea that almost worked - maybe you know why?
roebeet said:
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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Hi,
You all got me curious, so I just tried the following:
- Created a dir under /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
- Get temp root (z4root)
- Start terminal
- su
- mount -t vfat /dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
At this point, I can access the sdcard2 by using /mnt/sdcard/mymnt or simply /sdcard/mymnt.
So, I disabled USB debugging, and I get the popup asking if I want to activate USB transfer (I'm on 3452, on earlier TNT firmware, it use to say enable USB storage).
I click the button to Activate, and then another window pops up, and I click Activate.
Then, the popup just stays there, with the spinning thing. It never enables USB transfer, and, on my PC, I see the removable drive, but when I click on it, it says it's not ready.
I've also tried umounting /mnt/sdcard2, thinking that it might be confused because of the two mounts to /dev/block/vold/179:17, but it still does the same thing.
So:
- It looks like I can mount the /dev/block/vold/179:17 (the external microSD card) under /mnt/sdcard, and
- When I do that mount, I can see the contents of the external microSD card in terminal under /mnt/sdcard/mymnt and under /sdcard/mymnt, but
- For some reason, turning off USB debugging/activatiing USB transfer fails.
Maybe someone can figure out why activating the USB transfer fails. If we can figure that out, then that would allow seeing the external microSD card via the PC USB interface.
Jim
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
From what Ive seen or experienced, Cyanogen was the only rom that Had the Sd card and Sd card2 Thing fixed right (with exception of having to plug in the Power cord before mounting). Evrey other Rom seems to have problems. But Cyanogen has way too many other problems so I use Vegan since to me it seems the most stable :s
Yeah -- my phone is running a fork from Cyanogenmod 6...so the code is shared
TeutonicWolf said:
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
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That's the problem... When the Gtab is plugged into the PC USB (while USB debug is disabled), only one new "drive" appears, corresponding to /sdcard on the Gtab. There is no 2nd drive appearing on the PC corresponding to /sdcard2 on the Gtab.
I've been looking at my Windows configuration, with the Gtab plugged in, and the one drive that appears shows up under "Portable Devices" branch in Device Manager. The properties show that it corresponds to "wpdfs.inf", and looking through that, it looks like a generic USB Mass Storage configuration, i.e., a USB drive.
I still think that something would need to be fixed on the Gtab end for the two drives to appear on the Windows end.
Jim
app fix
I have found a workaround for the issue with the installation of a single app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12299831&postcount=2
Depending on what you want to do, an FTP solution is also possible as discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869844
By using swiFTP, I am able to open a connection through a Win7 windows explorer, and I can drag-and-drop files to SDCARD2 (over a wireless connection). I put a 1Gig movie on the card and it took about 12 minutes.
Another option is to use Multi Mount SD-Card. This is link is for the lite version, there is also a paid version.
This app works outside the embedded SD Card Mounting scheme that comes with Froyo.
With this you dont have to press the "Mount USB" button that comes up in the notification bar when you attach the USB cable. Instead it will auto-mount the either the internal or the external SD Card when you plug in the cable.
(Having configured the setting of your choice before hand).
Unfortunately it can not mount both at the same time.
It works with my GTAB and I'm using VEGAn 5.1 Beta.
(Without the 5.1.1 Suppliment patch)
Folks are still struggling with this?
Use a USB flash drive, I do it all the time. Just a regular, boring, Windows FAT-formatted flash drive.
Wow it is amazing that this problem still exists.
I am a new owner of a Gtab and have had it for less than 2 days. Thank goodness for the many informative posts on this site, that have helped me make my new toy almost perfect.
I updated to 3588, installed cwm and titanbackup, vegan5.1.1 including the suppl patch and even learned how to tether it to my Samsung Captivate. The one thing that was annoying me was my device not seeing the 16 gb microsd card that I had inserted both in the gtab and on my pc.
After reading this thread, it looks like I am not going crazy, but it seems like my device is destined to not acknowledge this addtional storage in it's settings?
I really was hoping to use the external card for videos and my mp3 collection, so I am missing something or did I do something wrong to make this happen?
I would appreciate any comments or suggestions since this is the only thing that I need to get squared away before I install more apps(with the possibility and ever present threat of having to re-install something I may have already done)
I could not post this question in the dev section since I do not have enough posts to allow me to.
Thanks
Tina

An alternative to USB Mounting

Hey guys. I had a lot of problems with USB Mounting myself so I tried all sorts of things to fix it. However, there actually is an easier way. A lot of stores sell microSD + adapters for really cheap especially for 2 GB and those have no problems being read by the computer. So if you have a SD slot, there is that solution.
It's very inconvenient to turn off your phone, take off the back cover, take out the battery, take the sd card out, put it in the reader, transfer the files, put the card back, battery back, cover back, power up, then do what you need to.
What problems are you having?
For small files I just use Dropbox to transfer.
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ssh/sftp, wireless adb
I just turn on wifi for my phone, then connect with my home computer to the ipaddress via ssh on the command line or secure ftp with some sort of ftp client that supports sftp (filezilla or some desktop environments support it natively, like linux ones).
If your computer has ssh server set up (easy to do in linux or if you're on windows, then i reccomend installing the package from cygwin), then you can connect from your phone to your computer as well to grab files and such (and do so anywhere, not just over wifi).
I use a usb card reader just as backup incase I can't get to a *img.zip to keep my bootloader from executing it.
I have a micro usb cable plugged into my laptop dock. On my phone, I installed the app "Auto Mount USB". Then I just plug in my phone. One quick motion.
Much easier than prying open the battery cover, taking out the battery, taking out the microSD, putting it into my microSD to regular SD adapter, and finally (whew) putting that into my laptop's SD card slot.
I've recently installed an app called WebSharing Lite from the market. It basically starts a webserver on the phone that you can access via browser from any PC on the same wifi network. From there you can move files around etc. Works awesome.
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For small files I just use Dropbox to transfer.
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i used to use bluetooth file transfer. now i use dropbox even for files as big as 88mb ive used it. downloading it over 4g takes about a minute and a half.
i would just upload them to a storage site then download it to my desktop
You can just use recovery under mounts and storage then mount as usb storage. Allot easier and faster.
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SD card adapter is nice when youre having phone troubles...
I thought about using SSH on my phone, just haven't taken the time to set it up. i SCP files around at work all the time...
It's pretty easy to do if you just want to use a gui frontend (few apps on the market).
http://www.appbrain.com/app/botsync-ssh-sftp/com.botsync
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sshdroid/berserker.android.apps.sshdroid
since you already know what you're doing, should be up and running in 10-20mins
Wifi file explorer is also a really nice option. It's what I use and I can't complain about it. Simple apply that doesn't require actually mounting the sd card so you can still access anything on the phone and the computer simultaneously.
the kernel devs have found a fix for it. you have to connect to PC using internet passthrough let it intall the drivers and then moust usb storage that worked for me

Copy from one USB-device to another with Asus Infinity

Hello,
New to Android and new to this forum. I have my TF700T two weeks now and I'm glad I bought it. My target is to copy the content of my Compact Flash cards (16GB each - from my DSLR) to a portable hard drive. Therefore I tried to connect both a card reader and a portable hard drive via an auto-powered USB-hub to the only usb-connection of my tablet. I even tried with another hub and even with a third hub. The only result was that my tablet only found the first device that was connected (regardless wich one: the CF-card or the HD) with the hub and not both at the same time, so copying from the CF-card to the drive isn't possible in one step. Sure I can copy the CF-card to the internal memory of the tablet and in a second pass move it to the HD, but that is very time-consuming.
Anyone who knows how to connect more then one usb-device at the same time via a powered USB-hub and do a file transfer between them? Your help is greatly appriciated.
You can use wi fi transfer to do it with a file manager, like file expert.
tbtaf said:
You can use wi fi transfer to do it with a file manager, like file expert.
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@tbtaf: When on vacation or on a photo trip I only have that portable hd, my tablet and a powered usb hub. I think a Wifi appraoch is not applicable then. Or am I missing something?
Sounds like you need to setup a second mount point for the additional device - don't know if that can actually be done or not, but I do know that some people who could not even connect the first device were able to manually specify the device by mounting it in a terminal window.
I'm not sure 100% on the code, but let me try to find out.
Or you could copy the 16 Gb CF card onto the pad's internal memory (or external MicroSD card), disconnect it, connect the HD and then copy it out again.
HeartWare42 said:
Or you could copy the 16 Gb CF card onto the pad's internal memory (or external MicroSD card), disconnect it, connect the HD and then copy it out again.
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He already mentioned, he doesn't want to do this, he wants to copy straight.
For now, it's not possible since the powered hub or non power hub unable to recognize 2 devices at the same time.
CF, now there's nostalgia if anything. I thought those became outdated over 3 years ago... Fact is the CF is hardly compatible with mobile devices these days.
No, you can't copy from an external cardreader directly onto an external HDD through your tablet. It can only read 1 storage device in the USB port. Multiple devices works, but multiple storages doesn't. Some people have had some success with USB Flashdrives/Pendrives instead of HDD's though. You could try that.
You can copy from an SD to HDD easily though, so you could consider using an SD with a CF adapter if your camera has no SD slot. (SD's have the added advantage that the pins can't bent.)

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