Hi guys,
I have a serious doubt that HTC s740 has 256MB. I think that OS only thinks that way. These are the arguments for my doubt :
1. I have an application that shows message box with question before it closes. Usually when OS notices that system is low on memory it starts to close applications. Sometimes while this application is in background, message box pops up (not because I tried to close it, OS obviously thinks it is low on memory)
2. I have never seen significantly less than 100MB of free RAM in any applications that shows that information
3. I created an application that loads some text files into a memory. I started it when my device was close to a 100MB of free RAM. Very soon I got OutOfMemoryException although I had 100MB of RAM left!!
4. Once I bought 32GB SD card from eBay. After a test I figure it out that card was 4GB although it appeared to any PC it was 32GB. I saw on the some forums that I was not the only one with that problem. Many face the same when buying SD card from eBay sellers in China. Point of this...it is possible to alter memory controller in order to trick the system.
Is there anyone who knows some way I can be sure that there really is 256MB of RAM on my device?
Thanks
You have 256 MB ram, but what you're not understanding is that each application only has 32 MB of virtual memory to work with (with a max of 32 applications). It's a lot easier to run out of virtual memory than real memory. Read this.
I am very well aware of that. That is why I started my test application when I was close to 100MB of free RAM. I have appended 200KB of text into a string variable just a 4-5 times. So this can't be the reason. And that doesn't explain OS closing my other application.
Try running virtualmemory.exe to see if there's a vm problem. Also, you can run devhealth.exe and see how much available ram the system has. I really doubt the device is lying to you.
Been really frustrated the past few days with the amount of times my surface has become deathly slow/unresponsive and crashes (restarts).
When I say unresponsive or slow I mean when you try left to right swipe to multi task it doesn't do it or the animation is really slow. similarly opening charms bar doesn't work or pressing windows button doesnt do anything.
A lot of times, 90% of the time the only thing I'm using is IE and bing.
Just now crashed/rebooted and saw a message on desktop
Windows created a temporary paging file on your computer because of a problem that occurred with your paging file configuration when you started your computer. The total paging file size for all disk drives may be somewhat larger than the size you specified.
When you click OK it loads Performance Options window and the virtual memory is set to 448 MB
I have never configured this before. What should it be set to?
Getting quite frustrated. Been happy using this device for months now without any such problems.
Right now, I'm pretty much guaranteed a crash or suffer extreme performance issues when loading a single a youtube page. ie becomes unresponsive even after closing the tab swiping up or down may or may not work. tapping windows haptic button doesnt show start screen, pressing lock button does not immediately turn off screen.
448 MB is the same size as the paging file on my Surface RT. In practice, despite heavy use of things like third-party desktop apps and games, I've almost never needed it. I keep a relatively large number of tabs open in IE - it's using 236MB right now, by far the largest of any given program although spread across multiple processes - and have never had the issues you describe, either.
I suspect your Surface may be defective. It's possible that there's some bad RAM - on x86 I'd tell you to run memcheck - or that your Flash memory (SSD) is defective and this is messing up the pagefile. Either one would be covered under warranty.
Are you running low on free space on ssd?
Could possibly be a bum app. I can't recall the app but my RT got very flaky after loading an app from the store and required a wipe to get back to normal.
Yes last night as I was attempting to record the situation with my phone for a youtube post. I noticed I had like 150MB free space. So I immediately removed 2 apps which free'd up about 1GB. It was late and I was mad, and needed to go to bed, but I suspect that was the main problem. And I'll know for sure when I get home from work today.
As I recall the windows folder contained about 7GB and my program data folder also had about 7G, My Documents and downloads is <100MB so that's not anything to worry about, and recycle bin is empty.
32GB is supposed to work out to around 29 something after marketing math right? So then between those two folders, <15GB is utilized and so lets say 4GB for recovery partition (I think its a little less if I remember) that's 19... so where's the other 10?
I am definitely going to delete the backup partition after I make a backup on a usb drive or something. Any other tricks to free up space? Disk clean up is only really good for about 50MB.
I wish there was an app in the market place kind of like TreeSize Free, would be handy for us Surface RT folks.
My device is having absolutely the same issue. Must be a bad update.
The 32GB Surface RT OS install footprint is something like 7GB or so. Add in the recovery partition and you end up with a lot less than 32GB available. This was actually published info (and MS took a beating over it).
Part of the large install footprint is due to things like Office being included. You really can't compare it to Android or iOS, either; Windows RT has things like Powershell and Management Console and tons of other power-user / admin stuff. It's intended to be usable for a lot more than just a platform to launch apps on, which is most of what you get from Android or iOS. Love it or hate it, that's the way it is.
Stick an microSD card in the slot and move anything that can be moved over onto it. Definitely also copy off the recovery partition and then recover the space it was using up.
So as I mentioned last night I removed a couple of apps for 1gb of space. Then I guess there was a system update and now I'm back down to like 500MB. I deleted a couple more apps and somehow I'm down to 400MB.
I'm still getting this ****ty behavior. Not quite as bad as it was, but still not an experience I would recommend to anyone.
RobbieRobski said:
Yes last night as I was attempting to record the situation with my phone for a youtube post. I noticed I had like 150MB free space. So I immediately removed 2 apps which free'd up about 1GB. It was late and I was mad, and needed to go to bed, but I suspect that was the main problem. And I'll know for sure when I get home from work today.
As I recall the windows folder contained about 7GB and my program data folder also had about 7G, My Documents and downloads is <100MB so that's not anything to worry about, and recycle bin is empty.
32GB is supposed to work out to around 29 something after marketing math right? So then between those two folders, <15GB is utilized and so lets say 4GB for recovery partition (I think its a little less if I remember) that's 19... so where's the other 10?
I am definitely going to delete the backup partition after I make a backup on a usb drive or something. Any other tricks to free up space? Disk clean up is only really good for about 50MB.
I wish there was an app in the market place kind of like TreeSize Free, would be handy for us Surface RT folks.
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Did you manage to get more space?
As you say, we have 29 GB on SSD. 4 GB is in restore and EFI partitions leaving us with 25GB.
If I select everything in C:/ it takes 12 GB. I have 9 GB free. So I have 25 GB - 12 GB - 9 GB = 4GB of unkown space. The page file is ~2 GB on my surface leaving me with 2 GB of unkown space. If this where a Windows 8 machine I would say that those 2 GB was used for hibernating but I don't think that Windows RT has hibernating enabled.
Maybe Properties in Explorer isn't 100% accurate.
When you used Disk clean, did you also clean System files? Update backups can get large.
wardh said:
Did you manage to get more space?
As you say, we have 29 GB on SSD. 4 GB is in restore and EFI partitions leaving us with 25GB.
If I select everything in C:/ it takes 12 GB. I have 9 GB free. So I have 25 GB - 12 GB - 9 GB = 4GB of unkown space. The page file is ~2 GB on my surface leaving me with 2 GB of unkown space. If this where a Windows 8 machine I would say that those 2 GB was used for hibernating but I don't think that Windows RT has hibernating enabled.
Maybe Properties in Explorer isn't 100% accurate.
When you used Disk clean, did you also clean System files? Update backups can get large.
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That 2GB is probably in folders that you don't have read access to by default (Ex. WindowsApps)
If I try to press the button for clean system files, 1GB in error reporting, 500MB temporary files, 400MB windows update cleanup, some other misc stuff so 2.01in total... after cleaning I only had 1.38 free, wtf is up with this math. I already had 450MB free... deleting 2GB should have netted me 2.4GB, not 1.38
I got a message earlier saying it couldn't activate windows, it seemed fix itself.
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If I try to press the button for clean system files, 1GB in error reporting, 500MB temporary files, 400MB windows update cleanup, some other misc stuff so 2.01in total... after cleaning I only had 1.38 free, wtf is up with this math. I already had 450MB free... deleting 2GB should have netted me 2.4GB, not 1.38
I got a message earlier saying it couldn't activate windows, it seemed fix itself.
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Didn't Windows reserve more MB to page file?
I have totally 14GB of files ( Including page file and system folders ). However Surface reports that I have only 2GB free instead if 14 ( 28-14=14). I did disk clean-up for all users and I manually cleared some data... I can't even do a refresh because I don't have enough free space.
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I have totally 14GB of files ( Including page file and system folders ). However Surface reports that I have only 2GB free instead if 14 ( 28-14=14). I did disk clean-up for all users and I manually cleared some data... I can't even do a refresh because I don't have enough free space.
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I'm guessing that it's because what netham45 said. We don't have read access to folders like WindowsApps. You have some huge games or something like that installed?
I think you need to try "refresh" your Surface. If this happen again then it maybe defected.
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I'm guessing that it's because what netham45 said. We don't have read access to folders like WindowsApps. You have some huge games or something like that installed?
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Not really. I checked my apps and they are taking around 3.5GB all together. Still I'm missing a lot.
I can't refresh as I don't have free space. Looks like I need to totally reinstall.
Hi, I found 10GB sitting in C:\Users\USER NAME\AppData\Local\Packages\windows_ie_ac_001\AC\INetCache
Seems that clean-up wizard does not clean those.
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I have cleaned up this directory for the two user I have and I gained 13GB free space.
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Hi, I found 10GB sitting in C:\Users\USER NAME\AppData\Local\Packages\windows_ie_ac_001\AC\INetCache
Seems that clean-up wizard does not clean those.
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I have cleaned up this directory for the two user I have and I gained 13GB free space.
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Did your tablet fine now? Or still slow or crashing?
With 1.48GB free, YouTube is still crashing me and making my tablet unresponsive.
I checked C:\Users\Robert\AppData\Local\Packages\windows_ie_ac_001\AC
Properties on this folder says 4.8 GB. But inside are only 2 folders, Microsoft and Temp, properties for those 2 folders says 3.18MB...
Control Panel> Folder Options> View has show hidden folders enabled
If I type \inetcache it will open the folder for me and properties for all docs in folder shows 1.49G
If I try to del C:\Users\Robert\AppData\Local\Packages\windows_ie_ac_001\AC\INetCache
It prompts yes or no, but then I get access denied.
In the desktop though I could select all and shift delete, to free up MOST of those files. but there's still 2.87GB hidden somewhere when I view properties of the AC folder.
I looked at some of the contents and these folders and its just like thumbails, js files, various cache (obviously as folder name implies)
I've resorted to deleting 2 more infrequently used games, so now I have 2.26GB free... haven't yet removed backup partition.
Files shouldnt cause the tablet to lock up like that, plenty of room left for the page file there.
I think your device is most likely faulty. Vendor should replace.
Hello, i have problem in downloading apps from play store. I m using CM11 latest nightly with latest gapps. i m not facing the problem with all apps,
i can download apps like MX player but at the same time i cant download skype. It just stuck at 36kb. I cleared app data but no use. help
something similar happened to me when I filled up the internal SD card with too many files. Programs wouldn;t update be able to be installed. are you getting a low space warning? if your free space on the sd card falls below 10%, unpredictable things happen. so your ROM has about 5.9 gigs of free space on the 8 Gig internal card, if you fall below 500 mb, I think the OS complains and programs fail to install. The only remedy is to delete enough files to get back above 10% free.
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something similar happened to me when I filled up the internal SD card with too many files. Programs wouldn;t update be able to be installed. are you getting a low space warning? if your free space on the sd card falls below 10%, unpredictable things happen. so your ROM has about 5.9 gigs of free space on the 8 Gig internal card, if you fall below 500 mb, I think the OS complains and programs fail to install. The only remedy is to delete enough files to get back above 10% free.
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I have 9 GB free space on my internal sd card.
Hello,
This is my first ever post here. I stumbled across this website when looking for a solution to the Kitkat 4.4 SD card issue, and it seems like the best place for advice on Hudl2 issues.
I got my Hudl2 for christmas, It had 9GB internal storage, but with a few apps on it that went to 8GB free space.
I have found that watching Programs on 4OD app, streaming them NOT downloading them is taking up space on my internal storage and my Hudl quickly started saying the internal storage was low.
Looking on the Setting-> Storage it showed a total of 1GB of apps installed, but ONLY 500kb free space and doesn't display any large files that could be the cause.
Anyone having similar issues, and know how to fix this problem? - the only fix i have found is a factory reset to free up the space until its full again.
Many thanks
I just came across a new anonymous phone with apparently advanced specs. it seems to cost under $100 and has an octa-core proc with lots of memory and space on it But I am trying to figure out how to fix and mod it to work properly
It is identified by XP as an HTC MK65xx, which got me interested from my Wizard, BA & Wing days and I downloaded drivers which seem to work from the ChinaMobile site. It installs as an MK6571. Whatever that is. It shows up in FMs as a 16 gig media device but with no space on the drive to install anything??
I have tried to get into the file system to see what is taking up all the space but cant see anything besides the photo-gallery which shows as being completely full, no space left, zero bytes used!
The machine is constantly trying to update flipboard, which fails with the usual out of space message.
Application Manager shows 16 gig used on the internal memory which it seems to call an SD card. (THERE IS NO SD CARD SLOT OF COURSE!!)Trying to take a picture results in the same out of space error message INSERT SD CARD as I get if I try to install any app from the app store!
Application Manager does helpfully offer to wipe all data off what it calls the sd card, which sounds adequately dangerous.
Can someone have designed a Chinese phone working on Android which has its operating system taking up all that space and loaded into RAM? Is this likely?
Download mode shows all in chinese and my chinese is a bit rusty (actually non-existent)
seems to be a goophone s6
anyone got any specs or rom for this please