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You having problems with the data signal after making ROOT and S-OFF???

Researching and reading some homeowner concerns of htc sensation, I have observed that a large number of users after making root and s-off a large majority are having problems with the responsiveness of the data signal on the phone, even do not know that usually this problem if the custom ROM or made S-OFF, so if we know the problem is there, if you have the same problem post your complaints here.

people forget to match up radio versions and corresponding rils. i haven't had any issues with the properly matches rils/radios.

RussianBear said:
people forget to match up radio versions and corresponding rils. i haven't had any issues with the properly matches rils/radios.
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Noob here, i just want to ask how to check if i have matching radio and rils, i have flashed the arhd 4.1.4 on my phone and the radio that matches with the rom. I tried going back and forth to different arhd versions and i still ended up with unstable signal mainly on my carrier, wifi and data is fairly good. any tips and tricks u could share with me to fix this problem.. thanks in advance

jhobert said:
Noob here, i just want to ask how to check if i have matching radio and rils, i have flashed the arhd 4.1.4 on my phone and the radio that matches with the rom. I tried going back and forth to different arhd versions and i still ended up with unstable signal mainly on my carrier, wifi and data is fairly good. any tips and tricks u could share with me to fix this problem.. thanks in advance
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Here's what you want, but I tell you that I tried everything and still does not solve this problem, I combined the radio and RIIL and versions anyway and I have not been able to solve this problem

wallendiaz said:
Here's what you want, but I tell you that I tried everything and still does not solve this problem, I combined the radio and RIIL and versions anyway and I have not been able to solve this problem
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So your still stuck with the same problem as me? Or did you just go back to out of the box stock Rom? I was thinking of just go with the stock, since I've been having problems mainly on signal issues after I flashed arhd and I can't stand having to turn airplane mode on and off everytime to gain signal.
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wallendiaz said:
Researching and reading some homeowner concerns of htc sensation, I have observed that a large number of users after making root and s-off a large majority are having problems with the responsiveness of the data signal on the phone, even do not know that usually this problem if the custom ROM or made S-OFF, so if we know the problem is there, if you have the same problem post your complaints here.
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Root and a off don't relate to signal, but what you flash after that does. Easiest solution is to use the same radio and ril combo as was included stock, whichever ROM you're using. Newer radios can give some improvements, but also can cause issues

bobbymokie said:
Root and a off don't relate to signal, but what you flash after that does. Easiest solution is to use the same radio and ril combo as was included stock, whichever ROM you're using. Newer radios can give some improvements, but also can cause issues
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Meaning the radio that comes with the out of the box stock , radio that comes with the phone when I first got it?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

jhobert said:
Meaning the radio that comes with the out of the box stock , radio that comes with the phone when I first got it?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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I forget which was the radio I had my phone when I was stock, but I will install the 2 stock rom Asian version and then see what works best for me, my phone is the international version with unlock factory...... HTC Sensation Z710e Asian.
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Im starting a thread after my 8 post probation regarding antenna location, I have had a problem with signal since i got this phone. my galaxyS i9000 has 2 bars more always

[Q] Why S-off?

Hello guy's
I have been searching on xda and google, but did not find a clear answer for my question. I know that S-off allows you to do anything to your phone, and i read 'Alpharev'.
I have unlocked my bootloader, flashed the recovery and rooted my Sensation Hboot 1.27.. using the Hasoon All in one toolkit.
The phone is still s-on and i flashed cyanagenmod 9. All working.
The question is: Wat difference does it make when i make my phone s-off? Is it meaningfull to do it?
I am just a noob on this territory, so is it usefull for me to doe the ('risky') wire-trick to S-off my phone?
Thank you!

malcoe said:
Hello guy's
I have been searching on xda and google, but did not find a clear answer for my question. I know that S-off allows you to do anything to your phone, and i read 'Alpharev'.
I have unlocked my bootloader, flashed the recovery and rooted my Sensation Hboot 1.27.. using the Hasoon All in one toolkit.
The phone is still s-on and i flashed cyanagenmod 9. All working.
The question is: Wat difference does it make when i make my phone s-off? Is it meaningfull to do it?
I am just a noob on this territory, so is it usefull for me to doe the ('risky') wire-trick to S-off my phone?
Thank you!
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Hi,
S-off will enable you to flash different firmwares and radios,and any RUU.
Until you NEED to do any of those things,you are OK on s-on.

What the post above says, there's really no need to unless you're gonna be messing with radios, different firmware, cid, and stuff like that
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G

Okay, thank you very much!
Could you maybe tell me what I can do with that stuff? What does it mean and what are the benefits?

malcoe said:
Okay, thank you very much!
Could you maybe tell me what I can do with that stuff? What does it mean and what are the benefits?
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super cid you can flash any firmware region, but it is not required for your device's own firmware.. firmware upgrades are sometimes a must when flashing different roms (like going from gb to ics or vice versa) if you are already on ics I really don't think it's a benefit to upgrade to another ics firmware if yours works fine.. and you can flash different radios that might improve signal and better reception (results vary so only real way to know is to try one yourself) hope that was clear, that's as far as I know
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G

Like above post says, basically you have more freedom to do what you want with s off. Also flashing involves less steps with soff. I'm s off and I'm glad I did it. I can change radios firmwares, with ease.
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.

serio22 said:
super cid you can flash any firmware region, but it is not required for your device's own firmware.. firmware upgrades are sometimes a must when flashing different roms (like going from gb to ics or vice versa) if you are already on ics I really don't think it's a benefit to upgrade to another ics firmware if yours works fine.. and you can flash different radios that might improve signal and better reception (results vary so only real way to know is to try one yourself) hope that was clear, that's as far as I know
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G
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realsis said:
Like above post says, basically you have more freedom to do what you want with s off. Also flashing involves less steps with soff. I'm s off and I'm glad I did it. I can change radios firmwares, with ease.
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.
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Thanks!
I flashed Miui but i was stuck on the Mi-logo when the phone was booting (I could not fix it). Then I flashed Cyanogenmod 9, but here i can't get my contacts back wich I placed on my SIM and Google account, pretty anoying..
Could this be a problem because I'm not S-off?
I realy liked Cyanogenmod 9 and Miui seems nice too, but ik can't get it work properly

This thread might help you. Have a look at it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

malcoe said:
Thanks!
I flashed Miui but i was stuck on the Mi-logo when the phone was booting (I could not fix it). Then I flashed Cyanogenmod 9, but here i can't get my contacts back wich I placed on my SIM and Google account, pretty anoying..
Could this be a problem because I'm not S-off?
I realy liked Cyanogenmod 9 and Miui seems nice too, but ik can't get it work properly
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Nope has nothing to do with not being soff. Did you flash the gapps addon for cm9?
For MIUI confirm which firmware version you need to run it (could be why)
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace

If you`re are an enthusiastic user i recommend to be S-OFF`ed.

matekaneve said:
This thread might help you. Have a look at it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
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I had already seen that guide, I did the same steps, but with the all in one toolkit by Rasoon.
Kohr-Ah said:
Nope has nothing to do with not being soff. Did you flash the gapps addon for cm9?
For MIUI confirm which firmware version you need to run it (could be why)
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace
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Yes i had allready flashed the Google apps. I now got it fixed by getting back to stock rom and synced the contacts once more.
But the strange thing is that CM9 still keeps saying: 'No contacts on SIM'.
For the firmware, I do not know which firmware is needed. Is it so that I need a ICS rom?, or must I look at the number, 3.33...
Thanks for all your help!
Edit: I know I need a ICS rom, flashing for instance gb is impossible without flashing firmware.. but must the numbers match?

handinar from
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If you`re are an enthusiastic user i recommend to be S-OFF`ed.
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I think it's all great, but I some terms and actions are a little over my head, so I don't excactly understand what the things mean when I'm s-off.
I'm totally new to the rooting and flashing, but I think it's fun to do.
For instance: What is Supercid/cid and RUU excactly?

malcoe said:
I had already seen that guide, I did the same steps, but with the all in one toolkit by Rasoon.
Yes i had allready flashed the Google apps. I now got it fixed by getting back to stock rom and synced the contacts once more.
But the strange thing is that CM9 still keeps saying: 'No contacts on SIM'.
For the firmware, I do not know which firmware is needed. Is it so that I need a ICS rom?, or must I look at the number, 3.33...
Thanks for all your help!
Edit: I know I need a ICS rom, flashing for instance gb is impossible without flashing firmware.. but must the numbers match?
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Well depends. I know some Miui 3.33 roms run awful on 3.32. Makes no sense as 3.33 was literally radio related update.
Otherwise yeah they should mat h. 3.32/3.33 seem to be backward compatible though.
SIM part though that is a new one to me
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace

[Q] Signals Issue - Looking for Reasons and Solution

I am recently shifted from MyTouch4G to Sensation4G and performed all preliminary steps i.e. S-OFF, Rooting and Super CIDing.
While searching for ROMs to flash.. i saw that my device's firmware also needs to be upgraded.. so i did a little search and flashed 3.33 universal from Kohr-Ah's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767)
Now i am facing couple of problems..
1. First i installed DarkForest which required 3.33 however it wasnt booting up so i trashed it and flashed Team Venom's Viper which booted up pretty well and started using it. Anyone can tell me why darkforest wasnt booting up ?
2. I usually dont get very good network reception on ground floor at my home still Mytouch4g never lost signals but since i have moved to Sensation4g, signals' reception is very dodgy on the ground floor.. it comes and goes.. Can anyone help me by suggesting the best radio/ril for my handset or give me couple of suggestions so that i can hit and trial.. PFB my current radio/ril
RIL - 4.0.0037HMQ [2]
RADIO - 11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M
Looking forward for input...

Hi there. With radio and ril it's very difficult to give a recommendation because we all live in different reception areas. But you can start with the generic Ics radios and rils and do some experimenting and see which gives you the best signal. Read the radios carefully and make sure their Ics and for your country. I also upgraded my radio and the generic Ics worked well. Let me give you the link for the radio and rils. Hope this helps out. Best wishes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 scroll down. And you will find the links to radio and rils. After you read.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

kamisheikh said:
I am recently shifted from MyTouch4G to Sensation4G and performed all preliminary steps i.e. S-OFF, Rooting and Super CIDing.
While searching for ROMs to flash.. i saw that my device's firmware also needs to be upgraded.. so i did a little search and flashed 3.33 universal from Kohr-Ah's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767)
Now i am facing couple of problems..
1. First i installed DarkForest which required 3.33 however it wasnt booting up so i trashed it and flashed Team Venom's Viper which booted up pretty well and started using it. Anyone can tell me why darkforest wasnt booting up ?
2. I usually dont get very good network reception on ground floor at my home still Mytouch4g never lost signals but since i have moved to Sensation4g, signals' reception is very dodgy on the ground floor.. it comes and goes.. Can anyone help me by suggesting the best radio/ril for my handset or give me couple of suggestions so that i can hit and trial.. PFB my current radio/ril
RIL - 4.0.0037HMQ [2]
RADIO - 11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M
Looking forward for input...
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I don't have a very good reception either. It's much worse than my iPhone. I have tried everything, from changing ROMs to kernels, radios, rils. Nothing changed. So my conclusion was that the Sensation has an awful reception and there is nothing you can do about it. Just live with it

@[OP]
Hi,
"GetRil" from the market may help you to find the best radio/ril combination.

I changed my radio and ril and I have five bars on H reception. It's really good. So no, not everyone has really bad reception. Mines much better than it used to be with new radio and ril. Hopefully you also will get positive results!
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realsis said:
I changed my radio and ril and I have five bars on H reception. It's really good. So no, not everyone has really bad reception. Mines much better than it used to be with new radio and ril. Hopefully you also will get positive results!
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which radio/ril are you using ??

kamisheikh said:
which radio/ril are you using ??
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Hi,
Use "GetRil" from the market.
It will tell you the best combination for you.
Unless you live in the same place as realsis,then, his combination will not necessarily work on your phone.

malybru said:
Hi,
Use "GetRil" from the market.
It will tell you the best combination for you.
Unless you live in the same place as realsis,then, his combination will not necessarily work on your phone.
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it just shows that RIL & Basement is matching...

anyone?

hi unfortunately i can't suggest a combo for you due to the areas we live in are different but i can help with a place to start. I'm going to send a link for generic ICS radio and rils. on link please read instructions carefully and scroll down then look carefully and you will find the ics radios and rils link. try out a few and see if it helps. i was lucky, the first one i tried worked for me. also keep your old radio number so if you want to return to it you know what it was and can find it. you will flash the ril like a rom, however radio must be flashed differently. place the pg58img file at root of sd card. pull battery, put battery back in, press volume down and power, when it boots into boot loader it will recognise the pg58img file and ask to update. press power for yes. once the update is finished you MUST delete the pg58img file from sd card or in boot loader it will continue to try to update over and over. so make sure you delete it. Hope this helps. here is a link to radios and rils. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
hope this is helpful for you.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

[Q] Reasons for RUU not working?

I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??

fatpanda0 said:
I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.

Darknites said:
If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.
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There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.

fatpanda0 said:
There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.
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Sorry missed that you on S3 sorry.

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fatpanda0 said:
I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps

lonegunman0 said:
I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps
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All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!

fatpanda0 said:
All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!
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If they can't fix it they need to replace it.

Darknites said:
If they can't fix it they need to replace it.
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Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.

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Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.
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I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.

Darknites said:
I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.
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dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!

fatpanda0 said:
dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!
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I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.

Darknites said:
I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.
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Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!

fatpanda0 said:
Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!
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Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.

Darknites said:
Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.
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Tell me about it. its not a bad phone but the lack of options customize like custom ROMs really pisses me off. You have just given me one more to hate the S3 version!!
well just waiting for a 4.0.4 nandroid from someone to see if that works. else will personally ask football for an RUU.

Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.

Merrymustu said:
Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.
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So If I have a RUU with correct CID but a higher HBOOT version I am good to go??

The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.

Merrymustu said:
The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.
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you bet. I have spoken to football and he says it can be obtained, but at a price! So making sure that I get the right one. Also just heard that we may be getting JB sometime in future. Shot a mail to HTC today to see when it will be available. Lets see!! If they say more than 3 months then might as well get that bloody RUU. Hating this disabled feeling.
PS: are you on One S too?? Are you rooted? if so can you upload me your stock backup??????

You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.

Darknites said:
You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.
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hmm that will be easier on the pocket.:good: Is there a way to enable subscription just by replying to a post. It is so difficult to keep track of where you have been. I tried helping a dude earlier and completely forgot the post heading now, I doubt i will be going back there unless I have a message somewhere telling me that I am needed! Do you get what i mean?

[Q] Can Rooted and Unlocked xl get OTA update?

If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
T

as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock

trevorb21 said:
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.

If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it

Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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tlazarus said:
If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.

It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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tlazarus said:
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.

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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.

See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.

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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...

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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.

tlazarus said:
Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota

Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.

Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy

Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.

I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot

Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.