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S-OFF-procedure with no internet =no clockworkmod

I had no internetconnection when I did the revolutionary-S-OFF-procedure. So when the question come to update clockworkmod, I had to choose No. It was recommended to do a manual installation.
Do I have to do that before flashing a custom ROM?
Do I need to check something before flashing a custom ROM (and thereby rooting the device)
I want a clean ROM with good battery-time, had cynagoen on my wildfire, enjoyed that one, wich one do you recommend for me?
There are so many of them!
Edit: seems that I am unable to recieve or dial calls, send/recive sms etc after this? Cant even check internet...have been able to send some sms, but no connection what so ever after this was done?? Why is that?

Really no one who can tell me if I need to update CWM before flashing a custom ROM?
And no other that have had the same issues with no signals what so ever after this procedure?
pretty please?

You won't be able to backup and flash a ROM without a custom recovery like EXT4 or cwm. Install ROM manager to get cwm or use the oneclick installer for ext4 recovery.
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Akerhage said:
Really no one who can tell me if I need to update CWM before flashing a custom ROM?
And no other that have had the same issues with no signals what so ever after this procedure?
pretty please?
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Yes, you do need a RECOVERY before flashing any custom ROMs as it's the recovery that enables you to flash.
But first you need root, so follow instructions provided in the guide to root your device using GingerBreak v1.2
Installing Recovery
I'd then suggest that you follow the URL within this post which will download and install a small APK onto your device that will enable you to flash the excellent EXT4 recovery using a simple GUI.
I'd recommend this recovery over CWM and even though the post says that it's untested, that's no longer true as I've used it myself and it works fine.

Use fastboot.
fastboot flash recovery your_recovery_file.img

power+ Volume down key

{HELP} device is keep booting into recovey -- SOLVED --

To the Guru of this forum. After my last rom flashing my device is keeping booting into recovery :crying:. Is it briked ? If so my only hope is the unbricking project ? Thanks in advance.

What recovery are you running?
Can you use the power menu within recovery to boot into bootloader?
Also, please provide as much pertinent info as possible, ie: rom you flashed, firmware, s-off or s-on, locked or unlocked. With your description it's basically like saying, "my car makes a noise all the time. what is causing it?".

Its not bricked.If u can enter recovery
Sent from my HTC sensation

Sorry you are right:
What recovery are you running? 4Ext
Can you use the power menu within recovery to boot into bootloader? yes
The device is HTC unlocked with S-On.
Rom JBMIUI v4.1 2.8.31 R2.
HBOOT 1.27.0000
firmware 3.33.401.6
I've format everything but SD. Restored the most recent back up done today before flashing. Once it reboots HTC logo comes up once, black screen, HTC logo, 4Ext is coming up saying that smartflash it is set to update the boot partition on next system start asking if this should be removed.
I've downloaded and installed again PG58IMG *different files using bootloader
I've founded a 3.33.401.6-Unsecured-Boot.img,+Root+Busybox zip file that can be installed via recovery but it did not help.
At this point I need a bit of help to look into the right direction and I'm not sure that Unbrick_Pyramid is the right way.
Thanks again.

Try turning off smartflash and flash a 3.33 stock rom to see if it will boot.
What was your last working setup, and what were you trying to install?
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Hi. Manage to flash a stock 3.33.
It stopped to reboot straight into recovery.
Sits now on HTC logo now for about 10 mins. I plan to let him run for 1 hr and see what happens.
Was thinking to install CWM on the basis that could be a 4ext recovery issue, toughs?
GROGG88 said:
Try turning off smartflash and flash a 3.33 stock rom to see if it will boot.
What was your last working setup, and what were you trying to install?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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If you can install clockworkmod that may help.
Tge device isnt getting the message that it has already booted into recovery once. So something may be jacked up with 4ext.
Clockwork may bypass all that when it doesnt know what to do with that signal to run smartflash.
Worst case scenario...put a full pm58img containing a rom and recovery on the sf card and flash that through bootloader.
You should still be able to get to bootloader as the device looks for that option first.
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Hallo. Ok installed CWM. Can please direct me to a full pm58img as you mentioned ? Thx.
Skipjacks said:
If you can install clockworkmod that may help.
Tge device isnt getting the message that it has already booted into recovery once. So something may be jacked up with 4ext.
Clockwork may bypass all that when it doesnt know what to do with that signal to run smartflash.
Worst case scenario...put a full pm58img containing a rom and recovery on the sf card and flash that through bootloader.
You should still be able to get to bootloader as the device looks for that option first.
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DiscreteTask said:
Hallo. Ok installed CWM. Can please direct me to a full pm58img as you mentioned ? Thx.
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And did that help? Are you able to get into recovery without errors now? If so you should be able to flash a fresh version of any ROM.
Try that first. Get any ROM. Flash it. See if it boots.
If you have successfully replaced 4EXT I will bet a fresh flash of a ROM will now boot.
Also worth a shot is replacing or upgrading the firmware, as that could be what's sending the phone into recovery on each boot (though this is less likely that 4EXT just being broken)
Flash a firmware PM58IMG like 3.32 or 3.33 and see if that helps.
But for starters, put a fresh ROM on the SD card and flash it with CWM. (BE SURE IT'S A ROM THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE 4EXT!!)
Once you've got it all fixed you can switch back to 4EXT. I have a feeling it was just the copy you were running that got botched. The software itself is solid and stable. A new copy shoudl work fine now.

CWM v5.0.2.0 was installed fine.
3.33 firmware installed once again.
Using this I've installed ROM that I already did in the past w/o luck, they all sit on the HTC logo. Is like the initial boot sequence is broken. Is boot.img part of the firmware or ROM ?
Trying to download some additional ones.
Thanks,
Skipjacks said:
And did that help? Are you able to get into recovery without errors now? If so you should be able to flash a fresh
version of any ROM.
Try that first. Get any ROM. Flash it. See if it boots.
If you have successfully replaced 4EXT I will bet a fresh flash of a ROM will now boot.
Also worth a shot is replacing or upgrading the firmware, as that could be what's sending the phone into recovery on each boot (though this is less likely that 4EXT just being broken)
Flash a firmware PM58IMG like 3.32 or 3.33 and see if that helps.
But for starters, put a fresh ROM on the SD card and flash it with CWM. (BE SURE IT'S A ROM THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE 4EXT!!)
Once you've got it all fixed you can switch back to 4EXT. I have a feeling it was just the copy you were running that got botched. The software itself is solid and stable. A new copy shoudl work fine now.
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DiscreteTask said:
CWM v5.0.2.0 was installed fine.
3.33 firmware installed once again.
Using this I've installed ROM that I already did in the past w/o luck, they all sit on the HTC logo. Is like the initial boot sequence is broken. Is boot.img part of the firmware or ROM ?
Trying to download some additional ones.
Thanks,
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The more details you give, the better the answers will be. Don't consider any detail too small.
What do you mean you installed ROM's that you had done in the past? Do you mean you are trying to restore a backup made with 4EXT?
That won't work. You need to flash a fresh version of the ROM after wiping.
Also, CWM won't install some ROM's that you may have used in the past. What ROM are you trying to install?
The HTC logo that first pops up when you hit the power button is part of the firmware.
Make sure you do a full wipe of everything but the SD card from within CWM. Get whatever's causing the problem off that way. Then flash a fresh install of a ROM from scratch.

Hi.
I did not use any backup only fresh ROMs: ARHD, Elegantia, but also stock ROMs I could find.
I've tried also some PG58IMG with ROM included.
Cheers.
Skipjacks said:
The more details you give, the better the answers will be. Don't consider any detail too small.
What do you mean you installed ROM's that you had done in the past? Do you mean you are trying to restore a backup made with 4EXT?
That won't work. You need to flash a fresh version of the ROM after wiping.
Also, CWM won't install some ROM's that you may have used in the past. What ROM are you trying to install?
The HTC logo that first pops up when you hit the power button is part of the firmware.
Make sure you do a full wipe of everything but the SD card from within CWM. Get whatever's causing the problem off that way. Then flash a fresh install of a ROM from scratch.
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Arhd and elegencia wont work with cwm. So there is your isdue. Try cm9 or 10 to see if you can boot one of those.
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Hallo, after trying all option the following did work for me:
- re-lock bootloader via fastboot oem lock
- apply stock ROM founded in this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
- rebooted fine
I guess that HTC RUU had some superpower and erase and installed whatever file(s) were corrupted.
Now I'm on stock 3.6 - fw 3.33.401.106 - radio 11.76A.3504.00UU_11.24A.3504.31_M
HBOOT 1.29 - S-ON - Relocked.
Standard Recovery.
Now I'm reading how to return my device to S-OFF w/o damaging it again.
Many thanks to skipjacks & groog88 :good:
Skipjacks said:
Arhd and elegencia wont work with cwm. So there is your isdue. Try cm9 or 10 to see if you can boot one of those.
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Flashing in CWM vs TWRP

I have cwm currently but I see threads saying to flash things such as radios and kernels through twrp. And I saw someone say that not to flash the new eu ota radio update through cwm. So I'm just wondering which recovery is better to use and why you wouldn't be able to flash a zip through cwm vs twrp. And is it easy to go back and forth between recoveries. Thanks.
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TWRP is for those who can't or do not want to use fastboot to flash the boot.img as it does it automatically, but only on hboot 1.09 and below I believe. TWRP has a feature called HTC dumlock which flashes the boot on higher hboots. It also has a GUI as opposed to just text and takes advantage of the touchscreen. I personally like CWM better (the lack of a GUI makes it feel more "hacker-like ) but until we get S-OFF, TWRP will be what I use because of the ability to flash ROMs without fastboot.

andrewt328 said:
I have cwm currently but I see threads saying to flash things such as radios and kernels through twrp. And I saw someone say that not to flash the new eu ota radio update through cwm. So I'm just wondering which recovery is better to use and why you wouldn't be able to flash a zip through cwm vs twrp. And is it easy to go back and forth between recoveries. Thanks.
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Most people say that the twrp recovery is better in some ways than in cwm, well that I know of in twrp when flashing a Rom if your hboot is below 1.14 then you don't need to flash the boot.img via fastboot, although I'm pretty sure it doesn't work all the time but it has for me so far. As of now, cwm can flash roms/ certain zips, it just won't flash the boot.img for you like twrp does and it isn't hard to go back and forth between recoveries isn't that complicated, just download an app called goomanager for the twrp recovery and I think its called Rom manager for cwm and just ho to install recovery in romanager and install openrecovery script on goomanager and it does the rest for you, but you can't have both recoveries on one phone, they will over write each other if you do tend to switch back and forth, well hopefully I helped you clear up some confusion and if I did just hit the thanks button, and if you wanna know more just ask
Sent from my One S

leohdz148 said:
Most people say that the twrp recovery is better in some ways than in cwm, well that I know of in twrp when flashing a Rom if your hboot is below 1.14 then you don't need to flash the boot.img via fastboot, although I'm pretty sure it doesn't work all the time but it has for me so far. As of now, cwm can flash roms/ certain zips, it just won't flash the boot.img for you like twrp does and it isn't hard to go back and forth between recoveries isn't that complicated, just download an app called goomanager for the twrp recovery and I think its called Rom manager for cwm and just ho to install recovery in romanager and install openrecovery script on goomanager and it does the rest for you, but you can't have both recoveries on one phone, they will over write each other if you do tend to switch back and forth, well hopefully I helped you clear up some confusion and if I did just hit the thanks button, and if you wanna know more just ask
Sent from my One S
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ok this explains alot, thanks. im on hboot 1.09, and i just flashed viper rom yesterday using cwm. i did it as they said...flashed the rom then the boot image using the pc. so if i was on twrp then i wouldnt have had to flash the boot image after (so i could cut out the use of a pc?)? i could just flash the rom and boot it up and it works?
Im just trying to get used to this phone, cuz i came form the nexus s and for that all you do is flash the rom with cwm and it all worked, but this phone is way better, much faster and stable
thanks

Kamilr97 said:
TWRP is for those who can't or do not want to use fastboot to flash the boot.img as it does it automatically, but only on hboot 1.09 and below I believe. TWRP has a feature called HTC dumlock which flashes the boot on higher hboots. It also has a GUI as opposed to just text and takes advantage of the touchscreen. I personally like CWM better (the lack of a GUI makes it feel more "hacker-like ) but until we get S-OFF, TWRP will be what I use because of the ability to flash ROMs without fastboot.
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There is a touch version of CWM... it works very well
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

andrewt328 said:
ok this explains alot, thanks. im on hboot 1.09, and i just flashed viper rom yesterday using cwm. i did it as they said...flashed the rom then the boot image using the pc. so if i was on twrp then i wouldnt have had to flash the boot image after (so i could cut out the use of a pc?)? i could just flash the rom and boot it up and it works?
Im just trying to get used to this phone, cuz i came form the nexus s and for that all you do is flash the rom with cwm and it all worked, but this phone is way better, much faster and stable
thanks
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On most ROMs, you are correct. On Viper, this didn't work for me and I still had to fastboot.

andrewt328 said:
ok this explains alot, thanks. im on hboot 1.09, and i just flashed viper rom yesterday using cwm. i did it as they said...flashed the rom then the boot image using the pc. so if i was on twrp then i wouldnt have had to flash the boot image after (so i could cut out the use of a pc?)? i could just flash the rom and boot it up and it works?
Im just trying to get used to this phone, cuz i came form the nexus s and for that all you do is flash the rom with cwm and it all worked, but this phone is way better, much faster and stable
thanks
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Save yourself some future headaches and switch to TWRP. The One S isn't really supported by clockwork, there was one build for it when the phone was first released and that's it. TWRP has active development and can do things that CWM can't.

It's easy to try another recovery or move between them, it's almost the very same as flashing a boot.img with fastboot. If you want to try a recovery without installing it do this and it will boot right into it:
fastboot boot recovery.img
One important thing to consider when changing recovery is that your backups made in one recovery won't work in the other, eg CWM nandroids won't work in TWRP and vv. So make a new backup first thing

WCCobra said:
There is a touch version of CWM... it works very well
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
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But it still doesn't flash the boot.img

Kamilr97 said:
But it still doesn't flash the boot.img
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Well, no... but it does have a touch interface which is a bit easier to use for those who prefer CWM.

Sensation 4g stuck on cynogen mod loading screen. HELLPP!!!

I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:

irfan9490 said:
I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:
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Shot in the dark here since you've provided almost no information to work with...
You are still s-on and did not flash the ROM using SmartFlash on 4EXT.
If you are s-on you need SmartFlash. If you try to do with with CWM or 4EXT without SmartFlash, you'll get bootloops.
Also, NEVER use Odin with a non Samsung product. It probably won't even recognize a non Samsung device anyway, but it is does it's very likely to massively screw up your device beyond all recognition.

Skipjacks said:
Shot in the dark here since you've provided almost no information to work with...
You are still s-on and did not flash the ROM using SmartFlash on 4EXT.
If you are s-on you need SmartFlash. If you try to do with with CWM or 4EXT without SmartFlash, you'll get bootloops.
Also, NEVER use Odin with a non Samsung product. It probably won't even recognize a non Samsung device anyway, but it is does it's very likely to massively screw up your device beyond all recognition.
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yes i am still s-on and did not flash rom using smart flash on 4ext i used twrp and straight up flashed the rom and gapps. i had no idea what i was doing.
it would be great you could help me thank you

irfan9490 said:
yes i am still s-on and did not flash rom using smart flash on 4ext i used terp and straight up flashed the rom and gapps. i had no idea what i was doing.
it would be great you could help me thank you
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Search the Sensation forums for "Smart Flash"
You will find various threads and guides explaining in detail everything you need to know.
Short version....
Restore the nandroid backup you made of your stock rom in CWM first. If you previously rooted that ROM, this is a super easy process. Just download the 4EXT app from the playstore and install 4EXT REcovery from within the app. The app will ask you if you are s-on then walk you through the process of smartflash. If you didn't make a backup of your stock rom, or if the stock rom isn't rooted, search for how to install 4EXT.

Skipjacks said:
Search the Sensation forums for "Smart Flash"
You will find various threads and guides explaining in detail everything you need to know.
Short version....
Restore the nandroid backup you made of your stock rom in CWM first. If you previously rooted that ROM, this is a super easy process. Just download the 4EXT app from the playstore and install 4EXT REcovery from within the app. The app will ask you if you are s-on then walk you through the process of smartflash. If you didn't make a backup of your stock rom, or if the stock rom isn't rooted, search for how to install 4EXT.
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ok i will try that thaks.

irfan9490 said:
I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:
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When I flashed my first rom, I had the same problem you are having......using 4ext with smartflash will remedy it
what you can also do is unzip the rom on your pc and flash the boot.img to your phone using adb (from pc)
For that you will have to install htc drivers on your pc....check the flash boot.img part on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
hope this helps.

Kernel
May be you flashed a wrong version of kernel? There are kernels fo ICS, and for JB.

[Q] Wifi won't turn on after flashing bricked kernel

Hi,
I was able to root and install recovery to HTC sensation, and was able to flash bricked kernel (Bricked-3.0-v1.4-ics). But after flashing the kernel, wife would not turn on. I tried factory reset, but still would not work. Any solution? IMy phone was in the stock rom with sense 3.6, HBoot 1.27. Any help would be really appreciated.

jensenchen68 said:
Hi,
I was able to root and install recovery to HTC sensation, and was able to flash bricked kernel (Bricked-3.0-v1.4-ics). But after flashing the kernel, wife would not turn on. I tried factory reset, but still would not work. Any solution? IMy phone was in the stock rom with sense 3.6, HBoot 1.27. Any help would be really appreciated.
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if you are using 4EXT recovery, have you configured it??
you can configure it (enable permanant Smartflash) using the 4EXT recovery control app (just google for it)
also check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26120465&postcount=7383

flash the boot.img of the rom manually
if you don't know how see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (only extra 1 step)

Yes, I flashed the insecure boot.img, and now the problem seems to be gone. Thanks very much for the help!
rzr86 said:
flash the boot.img of the rom manually
if you don't know how see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (only extra 1 step)
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