Running hot - Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE

I find that frequently my Q runs hot. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to when it happens, but often it's hot enough that it's a bit uncomfortable in my pocket. Anyone else?

rustydetroit said:
I find that frequently my Q runs hot. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to when it happens, but often it's hot enough that it's a bit uncomfortable in my pocket. Anyone else?
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Before I turned off LTE the phone got extremely hot, since then it's only occasionally reached uncomfortable levels (~104F battery temp according to my widget) and each of those times was when I was in a marginal signal area without WiFi data. Bluetooth with WiFi looking for a signal also seems to get it a little hot (maybe 102F), but nothing like the Evo Shift which would hit 108F under the same configuration!

I have mine temps set to C but the other day it got up to like 64 degrees. Not sure what that is in degrees F but I know its dangerously high.

What temp are you monitoring? To me 64C could only be cpu core, which would indeed be high but not dangerous to the chip (my desktop core routinely hits 90C as does my GPU when stressed, I run a minimal fan speed passively cooled rig for noise reasons). Most components can hit 110C internal temp without damage. However batteries don't like getting above 40C much at all, nor does human flesh.
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afidel said:
What temp are you monitoring?
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Supposedly that's battery temp. At least according to SetCPU. I figure its off somewhat cuz it reports my processor upwards of 300 C and I know that's not right. But I have a case on my phone and when its reading high battery temps the back of my phone is hot (not just warm)

I Keep wifi off, and when in poor service areas my phone gets hot. If I put it in forceroam, then she is fine.

My wifi is rarely on. Occasionally my temps get a little warm but not too bad. Any time I use wifi tether it climbs though.
Edit: After re-reading arggghhh's kernel thread i realized the kernel i was using has the gpu overclock attempt. Flashed back to version .04 and its still getting a little warm but nothing ridiculous. Haven't used wifi tether yet so i cant report on those temps.

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Phone really hot?

I have been using wireless tether and have noticed my phone is getting really hot, I check and it was at 51 degrees celsius, so I shut off Wireless tether and it cooled. But is 50 degrees dangerous to have it at? Sorry if this is a noob question
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Hmmm, that's strange. I use wireless tether almost all day every day, usually with my phone plugged into a charger so the battery doesn't die, and I don't think I've ever seen the temp go above 40C.
I could be wrong, but I believe 50C was the cutoff point for when starting to damage your processor. Are you overclocking at all? If you are, it would be a good idea to set up a profile to throttle down the overclocking when the temperature gets too high (and when charging).
Stock Kernel?? I use mine all the time for hours, I have never seen a temp issue. The Hotspot is a thirsty ***** though, I can watch the battery drop.
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50 degrees...celcius?
I have Battery Widget app and the temperature always hover between 86 to 105 FAHRENHEIT, and this is NOT using Wireless Tether. Is my phone defective?
Turn your screen off and keep your phone on a hard surface, not a carpet or bed, and it should stay noticeably cooler.
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lanwarrior said:
50 degrees...celcius?
I have Battery Widget app and the temperature always hover between 86 to 105 FAHRENHEIT, and this is NOT using Wireless Tether. Is my phone defective?
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Not at all. 50 degrees Celsius is 122 degrees Fahrenheit. If you're phone starts getting that hot, then you should be a little concerned. Right now, my phone is at 97 degrees Fahrenheit, which is pretty standard.
As always, if you are overclocking you should really have a safety profile set up to force a lower processor speed when the temperature gets high to prevent damaging your phone.
I've had my phone getting uncomfortably hot while tethering in areas with subpar signal strength. Probably something to keep in mind.
These phones can handle temps of ~130 if I remember correctly. Processors get hot which is why company's make.them able to handle such temps. If your phone gets too hot your notification led will blink and your phone will shut off if it does exceed a set tempature (not sure what that temp is but obviously you didn't hit it). Your battery life may take a major hit with these temps but your processor is fine.
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About phone temperature (HTC desire HD/Inspire 4G

I have the Inspire4g/Desire HD (obviously)... Ive noticed my phone constantly runs above 36 degrees most of the time (Celsius?), around 35-40...
Sometimes it gets as hot as 40-42 degrees....
I have the Rcmix3d ROM and overclocked at (400ghz+) 1.7ghz, but since all these heating, Ive changed it to only about 300ghz-1.5ghz
(btw Im set on 'conservative' for SetCpu , if that makes a difference). Now the temps are like between 32-38, and sometimes hits near 40..
So is this bad at all? WHats the max temperature for the inspire or smartphones in general? Whats yours' temprature?
Also, I live in hawaii and it's usually hot here, especially now in summer (70-80 degrees). So that might be one factor I guess?
From what I read the Inspire is pretty good at handling heat, I know personally my phone gets that hot sometimes though, i used to get somewhat scared when it got to 108(42 celcius) but that would only happen when my phone was plugged in and I was doing some heavy usage...
I would just unplug the phone and everything would be okay, I also went as far as taking of both covers and the battery and just let the phone cool down...
And the outside temperature can be a small factor, not enough to effect the phone though because its pretty insulated with the metal.

Is it dangerous heating the phone to up to 41C every day?

So I started playing this game Order and Chaos Online (kinda MMO similar to WoW) and the temps get very high, up to 41C on WiFi and 43C on 3g. The phone is burning to a point that it hurts my hand. I'm playing aprox 2-3 hours per day, sometimes maybe 4 hours, how dagerous is that to the phone? Can it do any significat damage over time?
I am using the jame bond kernel at 1ghz, which is also a bit undervolted, don't know the values tho, governer is set to ondemand. I tried to underclock it to 800mhz but the game lags sometimes and is a no-go.
ukhm, khm....
Well if the phone is heating up and it sounds pretty bad, I'm pretty sure its dangerous. Maybe not, but IMO it is. My Sprint HTC Hero has over heated a few times and after that it had small little dots on the screen. Hopefully your phone don't fry.
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kijp15 said:
Well if the phone is heating up and it sounds pretty bad, I'm pretty sure its dangerous. Maybe not, but IMO it is. My Sprint HTC Hero has over heated a few times and after that it had small little dots on the screen. Hopefully your phone don't fry.
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What are you usual temps? Do you ever get any values similar to mine?
lvnatic said:
What are you usual temps? Do you ever get any values similar to mine?
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Mines usually sits between 34°C - 36°C, its seems like a normal temp IMO. I've never had my phone hit 41°C before and I sometimes i tether my phone via usb and it still dosent hit that high. If your is hitting that high, it could also be the temp around your home or something. But I wouldn't use your phone to play MMO, especially if your playing 2-4hrs everyday. Just saying..
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kijp15 said:
Mines usually sits between 34°C - 36°C, its seems like a normal temp IMO. I've never had my phone hit 41°C before and I sometimes i tether my phone via usb and it still dosent hit that high. If your is hitting that high, it could also be the temp around your home or something. But I wouldn't use your phone to play MMO, especially if your playing 2-4hrs everyday. Just saying..
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What ROM/kernel are you using? I never had such low values on intense usage...
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What ROM/kernel are you using? I never had such low values on intense usage...
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Well I'm at stock right now because I'm waiting for the ota tomorrow. But I was using koushdecks 1.2.1 with matr1x kernel 4.0 bfs version. Clocked it up to 1.3ghz - 100hz, switched between smatass to ondemand everyone ounce in awhile and I still was at 36°C. I use setcpu's widget to always check my temp and it never goes higher then 36°C. Fact.
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Can anyone else pls tell their usual temps, this got me a bit worried. On browsing the net I achieve 38C, on some intensive games I can get over 40C. When idle it usually stays at 30C, sometimes in the morning I find it with 28C. Is this normal?
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Nexus 5 Getting Hot

Hey guys
I was just playing gta san andreas (best game) and the phone was getting really warm to the touch. The back part of the phone where my fingers are resting getting seriously warm (nearly hot) and i was getting worried so i closed the game. I checked the temp of the battery and it was 43 degrees celcius. (109.4 fahrenheit). Is this ok?
note: the phone is naked (no case + screen protector).
TheShadowFaller said:
Hey guys
I was just playing gta san andreas (best game) and the phone was getting really warm to the touch. The back part of the phone where my fingers are resting getting seriously warm (nearly hot) and i was getting worried so i closed the game. I checked the temp of the battery and it was 43 degrees celcius. (109.4 fahrenheit). Is this ok?
note: the phone is naked (no case + screen protector).
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you do realize that the average human body temp is 37C, a little under your cpu temp? its quite normal for the phone to get even warmer than yours when playing games, especially gpu intensive games. the phones safety shutdown temp is 100C, so youve got some ways to go.
simms22 said:
you do realize that the average human body temp is 37C, a little under your cpu temp? its quite normal for the phone to get even warmer than yours when pkaying games, especially gpu intensive games. the phones safety shutdown temp is 100C, so youve got some ways to go.
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jeez thanks bud. this is actually my first andriod phone so i was just a little curious. thanks for the clarification.
TheShadowFaller said:
jeez thanks bud. this is actually my first andriod phone so i was just a little curious. thanks for the clarification.
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cool.
its a quad core phone, so when all four cores are active, and the gpu is being pushed, heat is expected. if your not rooted with thermal throttle off, then at 70C(if i remember right) the phone will automatically throttle because of the temp. itll reduce cpu speed to cool off the phone. if you do have root, disabling thermel throttle is always an option. then it wont reduce cpu speed. but if tou do hit the safety shutdown temp of 100C, the phone will shut diwn automatically. this is very rare. really, you need to try to get to 100C to reach it, otherwise its very rare.
Is 46 degrees dangerous? My phone goes to around 43-46 degrees while playing asphalt 8.
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CyberScopes said:
Is 46 degrees dangerous? My phone goes to around 43-46 degrees while playing asphalt 8.
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It isn't dangerous, no.
It isn't ideal as lithium batteries hate the warm. Think of lithium batteries being perishable foods, they prefer the cold, in fact for long term storage they are kept in refrigerators.
If the phone was at these temperatures 24/7 then the battery would quickly deteriorate and run-times would take a dive, but for a few hours a day it is unlikely to make much difference considering most people replace these phones after a couple of years anyway.
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Phil
How to disable throttling on Nexus 5? Seems this phone throttles more than other due to LG settings.
simms22 said:
cool.
its a quad core phone, so when all four cores are active, and the gpu is being pushed, heat is expected. if your not rooted with thermal throttle off, then at 70C(if i remember right) the phone will automatically throttle because of the temp. itll reduce cpu speed to cool off the phone. if you do have root, disabling thermel throttle is always an option. then it wont reduce cpu speed. but if tou do hit the safety shutdown temp of 100C, the phone will shut diwn automatically. this is very rare. really, you need to try to get to 100C to reach it, otherwise its very rare.
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hey is there any way to turn off the thermal throttling without changing the kernel?....I m on stock kernel but the phone is rooted

[Q] Serious Nexus 5 overheating problem

Hello. I'm new with the account here, but been reading this forum for years.
I'm creating this thread because my new Nexus 5 (which I have for 20 days now) is overheating more than a normal mobile device should.
When i bought it, it had 4.4.4 Kit kat android, and I had that one for about 5 days, and in that time, I didn't notice any overheating, or maybe didn't pay attention, can't remember really.
But after installing official Lollipop 5.0.1, the device is heating pretty good even when browsing internet for 5 minutes, at about 30-40% brightness.
**** Please tell me if some of your devices are acting the same, and is it worth a try to install back an older android to try if it will stop overheating, or my device may be faulty and should I take it back for another one (or maybe switch to LG G2) ?
Because I'm still unable to post image links, i will write it down:
- Ambient temperature: 23 degrees Celsius
- The temperature sensor is taped on the back side, at the side of camera, this is where it overheats most. (even if not using camera)
- Phone temp after staying on standby with screen off: 28 C (it's not warm but it is warmer than desk which it is sitting on)
- After staying idle on home screen with screen on for 10 minutes (50% brightness): 30.5 C
- After chatting on Messenger for 10 minutes: 34.3 C (feels warm)
- After recording video for 4 minutes: 41 Celsius!!! (almost uncomfortably hot in the whole upper half of the phone, both the back side and the screen)
- After 15 minutes letting it cool down, with screen off of course, it is 38 C (still hot to touch), and it stays like that untill I reboot the phone, then it cools down.
The test took about 50 minutes, and after that, battery was drained for about 25%.
-While charging, the phone does not overheat, just gets a little warm which is OK. (haven't tried wireless charging)
P.S. I don't play games on the phone...
Please act quick in case I should return the phone...
the only time my phone gets hot is when im intensively doing a lot of things..
for example.. im playing ingress, have tether ON, and my two sons are using their tablets connected to my phone playing ingress too..
but if i turn off the game and turn off tether, it cools down..
to me it sounds u have something intesively using your CPU and perhaps GPS and other radios.
hold power button.. when PWR OFF shows, long press it and reboot into SAFE MODE...
use the phone for a bit and see if it gets warm... this should tell you if its apps installed.
I only used wifi, no tethering, no GPS, 3G, NFC or any other radios, cell signal is good so phone is not searching for it.
- In safe mode, it still gets warm when using camera. When browsing internet and watching images in google search, also but just mild warm..
- But after sitting and thinking, I've found a problem! After recording with camera and leaving it to cool down, it didn't cool down because it had to make an effort to upload that 5 min video on Google drive via Auto backup!
After turning the Auto-backup off, it is now much cooler!
I will post tomorrow with the results, if something changes...
Anyway, thank you!
First of all, "warm" doesn't mean anything.
Battery temperature does not mean much either, as the CPU is what generates the most heat.
There is a battery temperature throttle that reduces the CPU frequency, but it is almost entirely pointless as the CPU will always reach it's own throttle temperatures MUCH, MUCH earlier than the battery will. The CPU starts throttling at 65C CPU temp (NOT battery temp), and shuts itself down at about 105C CPU temp. Unless your battery somehow reaches a batterytemp of 70C+ (nearly impossible because the CPU will always hit it's throttle first), then I would never even take it into any sort of consideration unless you have a physical battery defect.
Using the camera generates heat since it's CPU and power intensive.
Using the phone in general will generate heat.
Keep in mind that mobile devices are passively cooled, not actively cooled with a fan/liquid.
Not sure what you're so worried about.
Lower your brightness
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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AlexSRB said:
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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The only thing that sounded odd was how it wasn't cooling down until you rebooted, but it sounds like you figured that out with the automatic upload setting.
41-42c battery temp can be normal after prolonged usage, though personally I usually see that after a short gaming session. My brightness is around 40% and high brightness will cause extra heat.
Otherwise the phone is very thin so you can feel the stacked SoC and RAM heat up through the skin fairly easily, right around the camera area as you mentioned.
I think each device and CPU is slightly different and can vary by a few degrees under load as well.
AlexSRB said:
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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Your temperatures are fine and you shouldn't worry about it. It's average for a Nexus 5, and there are throttles/shutdown temps anyways, for both the battery and CPU. I've had mine for a year and there hasn't been any sort of issue, normal usage should be negligible to the condition of the battery.
Ok, everything seems to be ok then. Now I can go to sleep without worrying Thanks guys!
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