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Hi all.
I purchased this device mostly to be used as a companion for when I stream to Justin.TV. This website uses both flash video and java at the same time. I want to monitor my video stream and the chat while I play. I know I could of got a netbook for this, but I would like the tablet for doing other things.
Some streams with lower quality work good for me, but my stream does not play. The stream will freeze, but I am able to hear the audio. My stream is in flash and is 720p, 3000kbps, H.264.
I tried some other 720p flash video and received the message "Video Not Optimized For Mobile Device". (Uh, yeah, that's why I bought a tablet and not a phone). Obviously this is because of the Android OS and not the hardware?
So I am half-happy because I can see the chat, but not the video. Is there anything I can do to help this? I am running TnT 2.2.0 with the flash player linked to in the thread.
If this can't be fixed for now, does anyone think it will be resolved in the future? Perhaps a better Flash apk that supports the Tegra better? Or would I be better with the new Viewsonic Viewpad?
Thanks
A lot of this is bleeding edge. We are using a phone OS that has been modded for tablets and not supported by Google (yet). And, the Tegra itself is relatively new and has had issues because of it.
In six months, I expect that a lot of these issues with be old news. But for now, it's a problem.
Which browser are using? Have you tried Dolphin HD and changed the User Agent to desktop?
For my stream I get the same results with the default browser and Dolphin HD, but for some reason with Dolphin HD I am forced to the mobile site every time. Even with user agent set to Desktop. So I can't try the HD flash video with Dolphin.
There is no mobile version of my stream.
Based on roebeet's post, I guess i'll stick it out and hope it gets better. I am already somewhat happy because I can run Ventrilo and see the chat at the same time. That's already more than my iPad can do.
Now if I can just get the USB keyboard working.
Thanks for the replies.
Hi Folks,
Latest version of PLAYON supports andriod (didnt see it in the release notes,however, it seems to work).. I was able to get netflix working thru Playon, works great on the dolphin browser.
Where did you get the app? Didn't find it on Market.....
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Try playstation's website. I just got an email from them a few weeks ago about the availability for android.
Sounds like it is not as much an app as it is a portal. An app is best, since then much better cache storage and smooth playback. Straight feed video quality tends to suck butt. This is why playing Netflix using Xbox, Window media and PS3 is far better results than staight from Netflix own site.
rushless said:
Sounds like it is not as much an app as it is a portal. An app is best, since then much better cache storage and smooth playback. Straight feed video quality tends to suck butt. This is why playing Netflix using Xbox, Window media and PS3 is far better results than staight from Netflix own site.
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Of course it would be better, but for the time being, this is a great find until Netflix finally decides how to tackle their DRM bull and gets to work on something more official. I'll take something over nothing.
I haven't tried it yet, but this could make that $8 a month even more awesome.. lol
Hi,
Can anyone explain how to do this? I have a Netflix account, but not a Playon account...
Thanks,
Jim
Netflix on g-tab
Playon (http://www.playon.tv/playon) is a mediaserver that sits on your windows PC. Playon allows sites like HULU, Netflix... and media on your PC to be streamed to devices like a PS, xbox, wii etc.
You will need to load the Playon program on your PC and then enter netfilx info in there. As long as you are on the same network, you should be able to access the mediaserver thru your tablet. (Playon has a free trial.. I believe)
jimcpl said:
Hi,
Can anyone explain how to do this? I have a Netflix account, but not a Playon account...
Thanks,
Jim
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I don't know if there is an android app for Playon, but uPnPlay works for menus at least.
Won't play movies for me with VEGAn 5.1 using Rockplayer, Vegan native player, ES File Explorer's player, Vital Player or Vplayer.
If you want to try, download the Playon 14 day free trial
http://www.playon.tv/download
and install on a PC in the same network as your Gtab.
Follow the instructions to clear a firewall port and start the server running.
Go to the Market and install "uPnPlay" on your Gtab.
If everything is set up OK, launching uPnPlay will show the Playon server automatically.
Select the server, select Netflix from the list, enter your username and password, and you should be good to go, for the menus that is.
As stated, for me, no video, just a black screen.
BTW, Playon will set you back $39 for for the first year, $19 per year after that, unless you go for the lifetime $79 offer.
When Netflix comes out with an app (they're working on one), then Playon won't be needed.
I'm guessing all this may be dependent on Honeycomb's support of HTTP live streaming.
We should know more in a couple days (Feb. 2) at the press event.
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-invites-entire-world-honeycomb-preview-feb-2
omkar62 said:
Playon (http://www.playon.tv/playon) is a mediaserver that sits on your windows PC. Playon allows sites like HULU, Netflix... and media on your PC to be streamed to devices like a PS, xbox, wii etc.
You will need to load the Playon program on your PC and then enter netfilx info in there. As long as you are on the same network, you should be able to access the mediaserver thru your tablet. (Playon has a free trial.. I believe)
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omkar62,
What ROM are you running on your Gtab, and how did you get dolphin browser to access the mediaserver?
I can confirm. Stock ROM, 3389, standard tweaks (flash, gmail, etc), latest playon (unknown version), latest dolphin browser (just downloaded it). Went to mobile playon site (m.playon.tv), and it worked like a champ.
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I can confirm. Stock ROM, 3389, standard tweaks (flash, gmail, etc), latest playon (unknown version), latest dolphin browser (just downloaded it). Went to mobile playon site (m.playon.tv), and it worked like a champ.
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Everything seems to work with Dolphin browser. Buffers, but after "setting up your movie player", it falls back to the beginning before the buffering.
Anyway, thanks for all the help.
I suspect VEGAN 5.1 might be the culprit, so I'll try another ROM.
* EDIT * Don't know why, but it started working with no changes. It ran long enough to get an idea of the video quality.
I was hoping for a big improvement over slingbox. It's better, but not by much.
It died halfway through a movie, so I'm just going to live with slingbox for now.
Hopefully, when Slingplayer HD comes to android (like it has for iPad) things will improve.
Just tried it and this works great on my gtab running vegan 5.1. Just set it up on my local network and it was breeze. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks
can confirm it works for cm7 beta too
also Hulu is working too
Thanks for the update. Works great with vegan 5.1.
Make sure to set dolphin user agent back to android. On desktop setting it just stays at a black screen.
Since I bought playon back when it first came out this makes it valuable again. Plus I think Netflix app will be on hold until honeycomb... ---->
Feeling kinda dumb about now, but how do you start the video up? I can browse my queue and I'm able to see the details of movies but I can't get them to play.
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Feeling kinda dumb about now, but how do you start the video up? I can browse my queue and I'm able to see the details of movies but I can't get them to play.
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Never mind, it helps to have the latest version installed. I thought play on updated automaticaly but I guess not.
Nice, anyone know how to make it work on a PC?
Works with my Vegan 5.1 as well.
Seems the Mobile playon.tv doesn't work form any PC on the network. Anyone know how to trick them into acting like an android browser?
Thinking of getting Playon to overcome some of the downsides of the Roku version for Hulu Plus....
I use Slingplayer to access my TiVo on the tablet and play Netflix from there. Works great
cant wait for netflix
They need to hurry up with Netflix. There seem to be some pretty good workarounds but jeez I would just prefer to go straight to netflix! I hope it comes out soon!
confirm netflix/hulu etc on vegan 5.1
manually set my router (which is UPNP enabled) to pass the port through the the Playon PC.
Black screen for a moment, then buffers and plays perfect!
Netflix is being a beezy and only allowing their live streaming app on phones with Snapdragon processors, which the Captivate doesn't have. Is it possible to port it over to the Captivate when it comes out?
Only time will tell. They are really working hard to stop the switching on Android or lock down Android.
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AlecKyle said:
Netflix is being a beezy and only allowing their live streaming app on phones with Snapdragon processors, which the Captivate doesn't have. Is it possible to port it over to the Captivate when it comes out?
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It's not netflix's fault...they aren't being a beezy.
If they didn't do this they wouldn't have any content to provide and netflix would cease to exist because providers would pull the content.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954499
Netflix apk installs and opens on my vibrant from the LG system dump.
http://db.tt/XeibZ5U
^The netflix apk, supposedly. I'd test it and tell you guys if it works or not, but I don't have a netflix account :\
^ Thanks for the apk! It works but not really - I can login, view my queue, etc. But when I try to play a video it says "Sorry we could not reach the Netflix service"
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^ Thanks for the apk! It works but not really - I can login, view my queue, etc. But when I try to play a video it says "Sorry we could not reach the Netflix service"
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Wacky.. my friend with an N1 said the same thing. I thought it might have been some hardware decoding/drm issue, but I guess not..
O man i wish it was working on our phones soo bad. i would pay to get that up and running
PixelPerfect3 said:
^ Thanks for the apk! It works but not really - I can login, view my queue, etc. But when I try to play a video it says "Sorry we could not reach the Netflix service"
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Same here I was soooo excited to watch some netflix...
I think there's a good chance they just haven't enabled streaming from the device yet. Most people are reporting the same issue
thanks for the apk. it works except for the streaming. i'm getting the same error 1005 that everyone else is. interestingly, my phone shows up on the netflix device management page as "Android Mobile (Obsolete)".
Have you guys tried PlayOn yet? It streams Netflix to your android thru media server. It works, although kinda laggy. Downfall is after 2 weeks free trial, its a pay subscription
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I think there's a good chance they just haven't enabled streaming from the device yet. Most people are reporting the same issue
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ya i think its just the launcher and face at this point...don't think they have enabled the stream.
I have only seen 1 report of someone getting it to stream on an android device and with no proof or screens i call bogus
Loaded it on my stock 2.2 captivate.. ended up just locking up. Power button didn't work, had to pull the battery.
No Hardware DRM = No Netflix Streaming
Hardware level DRM?
Back at Mobile World Congress in February, Qualcomm had an exciting, yet troubling announcement. Their future chips would have the DRM libraries built in to run Netflix streaming. Apparently, the key to getting movie studios' blessing for Android is hardware level DRM. If you buy a phone with a Snapdragon, it might run Netflix. But if you have your eye on a phone with a Hummingbird or Tegra 2, you could be out of luck.
Read more at the links Below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-954843.html
http://www.tested.com/news/why-do-we-still-not-have-netflix-for-android/2002/
This is also why the xoom may not get it...
Droid doesn't. Not all of them, anyway.
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Have you guys tried PlayOn yet? It streams Netflix to your android thru media server. It works, although kinda laggy. Downfall is after 2 weeks free trial, its a pay subscription
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I'll bump this, been using PlayOn for a couple of years now. Not the ideal solution, but there really isn't one. Don't bother with using Media Server, PlayOn has a dedicated app.
It lets you watch a LOT more than just Netflix (Hulu, direct channels, local media files) via transcoding. The streams/movies are sent to your PC, which then transcodes and distributes them.
It creates a DLNA share for viewing streams on your home devices ... it will also, via the new Android app, let you view all of these streams over 3G. I'm currently watching Onion News via PlayOn over 3G (ie, my PC downloaded it, my Android phone app is able to view it remotely).
For me, its a huge boon when traveling. It does have buffering problems at times but that is more because my DSL upstream from home is slower than 3G downloading speed.
^^ was gonna do something similar with a media server program, cant remember which but my isp upload limit is only 600kbps. someday when i have fios or other connection with symetrical upload and download this will be awesome but unfortunately that might be a while
I feel like the only person that cannot access my account. The program just closes after I click login. Im running the phoenix rom
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Even before today's update 'Skifta' has always been my favorite DLNA software. Today's update improved the honeycomb supoort and added landscape-mode.
It is far superior to the bundled 'MyNet' software as it discovers more servers, is faster and more stable. To put it in simple words, it just works!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skifta.android.app&feature=search_result
I also use that DLNA Tool-grat app!! Now,with landscape support it looks nice too
MKV Files doesn`t works for me
leonore said:
I also use that DLNA Tool-grat app!! Now,with landscape support it looks nice too
MKV Files doesn`t works for me
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Great feedback - thanks for the comments - glad you're enjoying the product!
For MKV (or other non-handset native formats), you probably want to install one of the third party players (I like VPlayer, but I know RockPlayer/MoboPlayer also feature on the list of likes by the team here). If Skifta detects other players available, it'll give you the option to use them for video playback.
Let us know if this works better for you (either here or over at our forums - forums.skifta.com).
Allan (of the Skifta team),
Updated and still cannot see any video, just music. Have Skifta on Dell streak without any problem. Mobo, rockplayer and arcmedia installed.
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Well I'd uninstall and delete all data, cache etc of all of these apps (skifta, mediaplayers) and then install skifta and moboplayer only. These two work perfectly together for me (asus eee tf).
fabsn said:
It is far superior to the bundled 'MyNet' software as it discovers more servers, is faster and more stable. To put it in simple words, it just works!
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OMG, do you work for Skifta?
Well I gave it a try. Here it goes:
"Updating skifta" - no no no no. First launch did quite some download, but each time one starts Skifta an update check? And what happens when temporarily one has the INet down? Or some other connectivity problem? Well it did happen to me today; INet was up but the "updating skifta" was there just idle ... a good few minutes. No go exiting and relaunching Skifta ... always the update check. So in such cases the program is unusable at all.
Chose media source - "No media sources found". We wait and wait and wait... Aha! Found one server. But not the local MyNet which is always running. Oh, MyNet server appeared. And finally Skifta's own server. We need improvement with discovery. MyNet, ArkMC and UPnP are almost instantaneous.
On to video playback. We browse and select and ... have to select 3rd party player. No renderer function (at least for video). Sigh.
Images - buffering .... buffering .... buffering and image (turns out it's taking some time loading the icons images). But why is it so small??? Seems like 640x480 (sometimes 800x600) but _never_ fills the width or height. And it's not the server downscaling the images, try with the preinstalled on the TF101 local images like Boat, Bus, Cat. That's with jpegs, with gifs it does fit w or h. Lets zoom!!! Nope, no zoom A simple tif - black. Let's try a bitmap - black screen again. No message that unsupported, just black.
Audio. No ogg/vorbis support with builtin renderer. A very quick "unsupported" popup and automatically the next song is selected. Wav? Good they work. Seeking - nice, fluid. But ... with mp3 seeking is horrible, better if it was muted.
Overall it is very good that competition products appear. Skifter is still beta so much room for improvement. For the moment I'll stick with MyNet,
"to put it in simple words, it just works!"
Allan, after we users weed out the bugs, will the first non-beta be still ... free?
That's quite interesting. MyNet never worked for me but Skifta did out of the box. That's why I posted this thread, even though I don't get paid for it
Eventually everybody's gotta figure out what app is best for his hardware and software config, as it seems like right now there's no dlna app that works for everybody. Actually I haven't heard any bad reports about upnplay, but its UI is driving me nuts. Its all a compromise
Strange that MyNet didn't work for you. The more we get to chose from the merrier I do hope they will continue improving Skifta and keep the "low" (read: free) price tag.
Diodato - couple of points to make in terms of the issues you raise specifically..
On the update issues that you mention - Skifta checks for new fixes/functionality on each boot and dynamically introduces them if available. Primarily this is used for bug fies against specific devices/device classes. If there aren't any updates found, this should be pretty quick. Since version 0.72 the client has had the 'offline' mode built into it. Provided you've connected at least once before with an internet connection, it will startup without doing the check.
There was also a bug that meant that the app would sometimes hang on the 'updating' screen regardless of connection state - we think we've 95% fixed this, but there are still certain circumstances where it will happen - these occurrences are more likely around skifta app upgrades from the market if it's already running). There will be further bug fixes in this area as we narrow the causes down more.
In terms of the playback capabilities of Skifta - the app currently uses the native player (over which we have no control of codec support) or a third party player (in the case of video, if there are one - or many - installed). I know it's frustrating when your favourite codec X isn't in there (for us too), hence the introduction of the third party player option - there is a fairly large amount of choice here (vplayer being my current favourite and moboplayer getting a lot of good comments from our users).
Device discovery happens according to DLNA spec, but that sometimes means that you'll miss a broadcast and wait for the next retry. For the majority of devices, they'll respond to our first query and be instantly available - others won't and the app will discover them as they broadcast themselves.
We at Skifta very much appreciate all feedback, good or bad and as you probably noticed, try to respond with code drops, fixes, advice, etc fairly promptly - it is vital for the product as far as we're concerned to keep that feedback loop active.
We're also constantly working on new features, stability improvements, device compatibility enhancements and behind the scenes features that should mean that the service keeps moving for you guys. It would definitely be worth you checking out the latest market upgrade (0.74) that addresses some of the items I've touched on above.
We're working on some particularly exciting features right now that I'll be able to talk to you about soon!
Allan.
UpnPlay is a good dlna client also. Mynet didn't want to list my files for some reason.
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atimms said:
On the update issues that you mention - Skifta checks for new fixes/functionality on each boot and dynamically introduces them if available.
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Well it's a personal thing. _I_ want to be in control when an application connects for updates. The Android Market will notify me anyway if there is an update available for Skifta, right?
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There was also a bug that meant that the app would sometimes hang on the 'updating' screen regardless of connection state...
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That's good to know that it was fixed.
atimms said:
In terms of the playback capabilities of Skifta - the app currently uses the native player (over which we have no control of codec support) or a third party player (in the case of video, if there are one - or many - installed). I know it's frustrating when your favourite codec X isn't in there (for us too)...
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No, I am not looking for a universal player. The native Android will do for me. But I didn't know that Skifta is delegating _all_ video rendering to an external player. Would be nice if Skifta supported also the video playback through the native renderer. Perhaps future releases.
For the moment you can try to fix playback of OGG (natively supported by the Android player) and images (full screen with zoom possibility)
atimms said:
Device discovery happens according to DLNA spec...
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No doubt since you're DLNA certified.
atimms said:
We're also constantly working on new features, stability improvements, device compatibility enhancements and behind the scenes features that should mean that the service keeps moving for you guys. It would definitely be worth you checking out the latest market upgrade (0.74) that addresses some of the items I've touched on above.
We're working on some particularly exciting features right now that I'll be able to talk to you about soon!
Allan.
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Will keep an eye on Skifta.
Also, you can watch live tv
I have orb installed on my media center computer, I'm using skifta and moboplayer and now I can watch live tv on my TF. This is wonderful.
So when using Playon Mobile app, I get a ton of audio sync issues no matter what type of video I watch.
PlayOn uses Flash which I have installed and uninstalled a couple of times. When I do a search for the error I see people saying Flash 10.3 is not supported on the Transformer (although why it installs if it is not supported is beyond me ;P).
I have a pending tech support request in with PlayOn but figured if anyone knows if solution to this issue exists, it would be people on THIS forum.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT : Oops...some extra info I am not sure if it is needed.
- Stock not rooted (3.2)
- B60 tablet version
- WiFi for streaming (25mb FIOS)
Ask if anyone needs more info.
Just thought I would update my own post with what a PlayOn rep emailed me today.
The video and audio are played by the Adobe Flash Player 10.3 app. In
other words, your PS3 is playing the video and audio correctly as it is
streamed, but the Adobe Flash app is failing to do that.
The audio/video syncing issue is very common on Honeycomb devices. It's
pretty common for android in general. When it happens you have to
completely remove the Adobe Flash Player 10.3 app, reboot the tablet,
and then reinstall the app from the Android Market. That should reset a
now correctly installed Adobe Flash app.
Once you have followed that process, try a video again. If it still
plays poorly then try playing a video in your browser through the web
app (m.playon.tv) to see if your tablet is handling Flash differently.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
Thank you for contacting PlayOn Support.
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