[Q] Doubts before buying: s-pen compatibility & more - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am thinking about buying the Note 10.1, but I will want to put a custom rom (CM), I am afraid that S-Pen will not work (which is mainly why I am thinking of buying the tablet).
Does S-Pen work (or expected to work, based on Note Phones experience) with custom roms? (In particular, with Non-touchwizd roms)
Is S-Pen (and palm rejection) only compatible with Samsung programs?
Thank you

S-Pen works fine on the AOKP rom - RR rom... It works on all apps, though some are designed for it. You can use handwriting as a default on the stock samsung keyboard, it just turns it to normal text in most writing programs... S-notes, 7notes and a few others allow you to write freehand and don't change it to text... They allow you to write a note in your own handwriting.

The s-pen has an "s-pen" API that Samsung has open sourced, but is not a part of the android stack. There are noticeable differences in how Photoshop reads the pen on cm10 vs Samsung branded 4.0.4. If the s-pen api were to be integrated into our cm10, it should fix all these problems. I found it worth reverting to stock as how Photoshop has updated to include responsiveness that the s-pen API affords. (Jumping between pressure levels that I know I can render with a pencil) basically android's wacom driver isn't as sophisticated as Samsung's s-pen API. I'm guessing here is where the problem is, but it's a noticeable difference, or I wouldn't mention it.
That said, don't let cm10 determine whether you get this thing or not. I'm pleasantly surprised at how subdued touchwiz has become, though I use apex launcher (which doesn't stop multi window, pop out windows, etc)
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Organize applications

Hi,
I have the TF700T (fw 9.4.5.22) and I was a bit disappointed when I saw that I could not organise the applications the way I'd like (I'm not talking about organizing them on desktop screens neither the parameters/applications list, but in the specific panel where all installed apps are showing). Especially since I saw that a friend with Galaxy could sort them and group them in folders.
So, am I missing something (he has a parameter menu in this panel allowing sorting/foldering while I can't see such menu) ? Or is it a specific samsung feature ?
Is there any app to add to my TF700T which would allow this feature ?
NB: another comparison I saw is that on the galaxy there is a king of OCR recognition when he's handwriting, but I couldn't find such for TF700T. Any idea ?
Ricorico94
Asus pretty much leaves everything as is in AOSP Android, and that is only good. Less tweaks more stability and overall greatness (my oppinion).
Quite opposite is HTC, who is tweaking a lot of things, from desktop to apps...
Anyway, if you would like to group apps try Apex launcher. Very good launcher and also has this kind of groupings.
OCR - probably there is an app for that in the play store. Search.
Nova launcher also works

De-touchwiz the Note 10.1?

Just got mine today, and love the hardware, but man, Touchwiz is a design trainwreck. Are there any decent ways to remove some of the Touchwiz nastiness (Big power choosers in the notification bars, striped patterns everywhere) to go back towards a more stock look? I've already installed NovaLauncher, which helps, but the notifications popup is just tragic and loud.
I know that if we get CM9/CM10, I'll be back to delicious AOSP stock, but I'm wondering if there's any solution which will help me restore some design sanity sooner. Replacing image files, etc?
I can't say I disagree here .. I'm not a big fan of the appearance of touchwiz -- especially the notification pop-up. Ugh. I also hate the white menus, too. That said, there are features of touchwiz that I do like (app drawer organization options are nice), but overall, I could do without it. I like your choice of words: a design trainwreck. IMHO, it most certainly is.
I kinda wish Samsung would give you the option of a more stock-android experience, but I understand why they don't. Touchwiz is their android "brand". My first android experience was a Samsung, and I have bad memories of slowness & lag that I'd much rather forget, but luckily the Note's hardware seems to be able to smash everything up without any super serious performance hits (for me, thus far -- time will tell that tale, though ).
If anyone actually strips touchwiz out and makes a rom that doesn't actually lose functionality or introduce major bugs (so many roms have given me headaches with the market, various non-functioning hardware components etc), I might consider it, but probably closer to the end of my warranty.
What about using nova launcher, can I make it the default instead of every time choosing between them? I find it more faster
Or Apex Launcher... That is pretty customisable too...

S-Note alternate with equally good sensitivity of Pen ?

Is there any alternate to S-Note with equally good sensitivity in terms of pen. And widgets for any selected note ?
I've heard a lot about papyrus and have used it myself too, and have used a lot of others but never found any equivalent to S-Note.
is there any ?
Autodesk's SketchBook Pro. Made with SPen SDK from Note 3. It uses all features of the S-Pen (Note 1, 2 and 3) including AirView, Help Button and Pressure control. I'ts amazing and professional. You can do even a 4K resolution draw without problems. Download it (XDA is plaggued of his APK) and have fun!
SketchBook Pro is a drawing and schetching appm not a note taking app. I have tested almost everything there is... some come close to SNote but not better.
Check this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
This is one is good but only in the paid version https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus
kourabies2 said:
SketchBook Pro is a drawing and schetching appm not a note taking app. I have tested almost everything there is... some come close to SNote but not better.
Check this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
This is one is good but only in the paid version https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus
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That's based in Spen SDK too, but its too similar to S-Note. Sketchbook Pro it's a lot more faster and have the same things as S-Note (Shapes, Figures, add Photos, etc draw with textures like Dirt Smoke, Grass etc and anything you want.
i like GNote. i always use it in tw and also in cm roms and it has s note sensitivity
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
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i like GNote. i always use it in tw and also in cm roms and it has s note sensitivity
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
If you are not very much in the drawing or S-pen thing then Google Keep is a very good alternate and the good thing is it is based on cloud and you will get it updated always among all your devices, i.e. (mobile, desktop, tablets, etc).
Try this one, DIONOTE it's very close to S-note but has other features as well. Designed to work with Spen as well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.diotek.dionote

[Q] No inertia in Maps

Hi, I'm using Google Maps app and I've found out that this phone does not have inertia. Why is this happening? How is it possible, since Maps app is generic for all devices (I'm pretty sure that all the Samsung Galaxy Core 2's have this problem).
No Samsung Music player, weird Touchwiz version, no inertia in Maps... what the hell is going on with this phone?
It seems to be a chinese replica of a Samsung phone that comes without official firmware and weird apps!
rambomhtri said:
Hi, I'm using Google Maps app and I've found out that this phone does not have inertia. Why is this happening? How is it possible, since Maps app is generic for all devices (I'm pretty sure that all the Samsung Galaxy Core 2's have this problem).
No Samsung Music player, weird Touchwiz version, no inertia in Maps... what the hell is going on with this phone?
It seems to be a chinese replica of a Samsung phone that comes without official firmware and weird apps!
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Inertia - slide is currently disabled because of the different android OS/API/JS workaraund
https://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api...ed+Summary+Stars+ApiType+Internal&cells=tiles
Why weird apps ? The only thing not fixed enaught from start is boot / recovery.
Other apps are written specialy for this type of phone. A lot of things not needed by release nas been changed by Samsung the references weren't deleted, so don't wory about some chinese leftowers
And about the player : The player is Samsung's and made specialy for this phone, just like the libs for it and all other libs for mix,effects ...
And maps and other apps are not "generic" for all "devices" !
It depends on the phone's API and other compatibility issues and references/components.
I don't know why people always messing about that things, you can always install other launcher/app and make it default or disable app/system package.
StratOS_HTC said:
Inertia - slide is currently disabled because of the different android OS/API/JS workaraund
https://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api...ed+Summary+Stars+ApiType+Internal&cells=tiles
Why weird apps ? The only thing not fixed enaught from start is boot / recovery.
Other apps are written specialy for this type of phone. A lot of things not needed by release nas been changed by Samsung the references weren't deleted, so don't wory about some chinese leftowers
And about the player : The player is Samsung's and made specialy for this phone, just like the libs for it and all other libs for mix,effects ...
And maps and other apps are not "generic" for all "devices" !
It depends on the phone's API and other compatibility issues and references/components.
I don't know why people always messing about that things, you can always install other launcher/app and make it default or disable app/system package.
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OK, here's the story, I had like 1 month ago 3 devices: Samsung Galaxy Young 2, Galaxy Core 2 and Express 2. All of them with Android 4.4.2, with all the apps up to date, and everything mostly the same.
So, Young 2 and Core 2 were almost the same weird experience in terms of software, and the Express 2 was a Samsung like any other Samsung out there, let me explain:
1. Maps in the first 2 devices had no inertia, whereas Express 2 had it. Same app version. Someone explain that to me.
2. Touchwiz in the first 2 devices had this weird version with only 4 icons in the lower bar, different interface, different menu options (worse), and you know, it simply wasn't the same Touchwiz I saw in every other Samsung.
3. No Samsung Music player, what the hell, in the first 2 devices.
4. YouTube app was not the same, yeah, it was different. The search button was in the menu option, while in any other Samsung it was right in the middle of the upper bar/section. Same YouTube app. I had no idea what was going on. Like a week or so, YT got updated and this is fixed now, but anyways, that was really weird.
5. I don't know, those 2 devices had many other different things in settings that made me feel like If I was using a chinese copy of a Samsung phone. I couldn't even put a shortcut to Manage Applications with that weird Mass Launcher version of Touchwiz.
6. The Dialer menu, contacts interface and all of that is simply ugly, poorly implemented (my old Neo V showed contact's pictures in a much higher resolution), it's not the same as all the other Samsung's interfaces.
And also, I have 1 big hardware problem, and I think it's not my phone, but all the Galaxy Core 2's. The touchscreen limit is wrong, it does not recognize the very end of the 4 screen sides (the 4 edges), it only starts to recognize your fingers like 4mm or more from the edge, and that hinders many gestures, specially when scrolling a right side bar, or sweeping from the left to show up a menu, or moving a song's time bar to the beginning (I can only move it to 0:04 sec, cause I can't move it more to the left).
The mix of these bad experiences is what makes me feel like I'm not using a Samsung phone. Besides, the screen of this phone is one of the worst screens I have ever seen. It's way superior the screen of my old Neo V. The viewing angles are a joke, I know it's a budget phone, low-cost and all that, but seriously, the screen is SO awful, you rotate just 1 º your phone and the colors are starting to change and they get distorted. My Neo V was also a budget phone and had an amazing screen. I'm not protesting about the resolution, or colors, they are good enough, I wasn't looking for a Super Amoled screen, but man, this screen is so bad.
Yeah, I know I can install another launcher. Actually the true is that I didn't know 'till I got this phone in my hands. That mass launcher version was so awful that I started reading about Home screen (launcher) and discovered what a launcher was, and "thanks" to the awful Touchwiz version, I'm using Nova launcher, that totally rocks and I really really love it. I don't care about Samsung's player neither, I use jetAudio plus, which is far better, but you know, you don't like when a Samsung phone comes without a Samsung player (just like all the Samsung phones out there). And Maps and YouTube weird behaviors, and a ultra low resolution photos in the Conctacts interface (and when receiving a call too), and all those things make you really question if you're actually using a original Samsung. You gotta think too about the people can't spend time reading and learning what is a launcher and all that stuff.
After a month of use, I can really complain about the horrendous screen and the dialer weird app, though that doesn't remove the very first bad experience. That's all. No, stop, I was forgetting something, If it was't for you, I'd still getting mad at Samsung because when you volume up to 80%, this freaking weird phone shows up a warning saying that listen to loud music can damage your ears. I'm root, I have Gravity Box, and I can completely remove that warning from hell. You can't deactivate it without Gravity Box and being root. That's another BIG joke, man. Samsung, what the hell. Thanks God I found your post and I could root the phone and install Xposed framework.
rambomhtri said:
OK, here's the story, I had like 1 month ago 3 devices: Samsung Galaxy Young 2, Galaxy Core 2 and Express 2. All of them with Android 4.4.2, with all the apps up to date, and everything mostly the same.
So, Young 2 and Core 2 were almost the same weird experience in terms of software, and the Express 2 was a Samsung like any other Samsung out there, let me explain:
1. Maps in the first 2 devices had no inertia, whereas Express 2 had it. Same app version. Someone explain that to me.
2. Touchwiz in the first 2 devices had this weird version with only 4 icons in the lower bar, different interface, different menu options (worse), and you know, it simply wasn't the same Touchwiz I saw in every other Samsung.
3. No Samsung Music player, what the hell, in the first 2 devices.
4. YouTube app was not the same, yeah, it was different. The search button was in the menu option, while in any other Samsung it was right in the middle of the upper bar/section. Same YouTube app. I had no idea what was going on. Like a week or so, YT got updated and this is fixed now, but anyways, that was really weird.
5. I don't know, those 2 devices had many other different things in settings that made me feel like If I was using a chinese copy of a Samsung phone. I couldn't even put a shortcut to Manage Applications with that weird Mass Launcher version of Touchwiz.
6. The Dialer menu, contacts interface and all of that is simply ugly, poorly implemented (my old Neo V showed contact's pictures in a much higher resolution), it's not the same as all the other Samsung's interfaces.
And also, I have 1 big hardware problem, and I think it's not my phone, but all the Galaxy Core 2's. The touchscreen limit is wrong, it does not recognize the very end of the 4 screen sides (the 4 edges), it only starts to recognize your fingers like 4mm or more from the edge, and that hinders many gestures, specially when scrolling a right side bar, or sweeping from the left to show up a menu, or moving a song's time bar to the beginning (I can only move it to 0:04 sec, cause I can't move it more to the left).
The mix of these bad experiences is what makes me feel like I'm not using a Samsung phone. Besides, the screen of this phone is one of the worst screens I have ever seen. It's way superior the screen of my old Neo V. The viewing angles are a joke, I know it's a budget phone, low-cost and all that, but seriously, the screen is SO awful, you rotate just 1 º your phone and the colors are starting to change and they get distorted. My Neo V was also a budget phone and had an amazing screen. I'm not protesting about the resolution, or colors, they are good enough, I wasn't looking for a Super Amoled screen, but man, this screen is so bad.
Yeah, I know I can install another launcher. Actually the true is that I didn't know 'till I got this phone in my hands. That mass launcher version was so awful that I started reading about Home screen (launcher) and discovered what a launcher was, and "thanks" to the awful Touchwiz version, I'm using Nova launcher, that totally rocks and I really really love it. I don't care about Samsung's player neither, I use jetAudio plus, which is far better, but you know, you don't like when a Samsung phone comes without a Samsung player (just like all the Samsung phones out there). And Maps and YouTube weird behaviors, and a ultra low resolution photos in the Conctacts interface (and when receiving a call too), and all those things make you really question if you're actually using a original Samsung. You gotta think too about the people can't spend time reading and learning what is a launcher and all that stuff.
After a month of use, I can really complain about the horrendous screen and the dialer weird app, though that doesn't remove the very first bad experience. That's all. No, stop, I was forgetting something, If it was't for you, I'd still getting mad at Samsung because when you volume up to 80%, this freaking weird phone shows up a warning saying that listen to loud music can damage your ears. I'm root, I have Gravity Box, and I can completely remove that warning from hell. You can't deactivate it without Gravity Box and being root. That's another BIG joke, man. Samsung, what the hell. Thanks God I found your post and I could root the phone and install Xposed framework.
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1.Default stock google maps in GC2 is specialy made for different GC2, try deinstaling or disable and install from Market.
2.Same with touchwiz stock, specialy made for GC2 devices
3.GC2 uses specialy made modules, libs and mixer
About other stuff, like "resolution", margin borders,screen grids, effects and transitions, speed between them
Different launcher uses different configs, it's not just touch error or prog error, all can be reset or changed.
I'm not here to judge about that things and what crapy phone I'm using too, just trying to make the best of it, but sometime it is the best to use other progs and see what's the difference and how are things with other apps.
Stock apps/system apps are made specialy for those models.
Have noticed it myself while trying to make updated version of google apps as system apps ( Custom rom - specialy google play services ).
Have noticed that the update version via Market works good, but if you try to update updated version as default system ( as custom rom ) apps you will end with corner, too much dependencies and rechanged or modified libs, modules are "ported" or recreated to GC2 phones, FC problems are literary problem for custom stock roms.
That is the primary deal this types of phones won't stand stable support and updates.
The major problem is that some apps are not generic ( from stock rom ) so they are different and made specialy for this type of model.
API's should work fine and they are carefully indexed, just like apps, but frameworks are not fully compatible or they are partialy ported/recreated/changed to this type of model. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't know how to say it right.
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Android 10 in testing for DBT/SM-T865

android 10 seems to be in testing by samsung for our Tab S6 LTE (T865)
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/DBT/SM-T865/version.test.xml
I read, it should be out in next spring ... .
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I hope earlier... Maybe some beta one ui 2. Tab s6 is only newest snapdragon Samsung which is not updated yet
... I hope so too but as you know hope dies last
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Chances are so slim, of course
Good to know thank you. I'm still pretty happy with android 9. I received android 10 on my note 10 plus and honestly it's not a big jump for me.
ivanox1972 said:
Chances are so slim, of course
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Well, the S10 series got it 2-3 months earlier than the roadmap, the S9/Note9 is getting it now, instead of the projected April 2020 release, so one would guess Samsung will also release it for the S6 earlier as well. Given how it's the current flagship tablet and all.
I think, earliest possible is March
aznmode said:
Good to know thank you. I'm still pretty happy with android 9. I received android 10 on my note 10 plus and honestly it's not a big jump for me.
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I also already have 10 on my pixel 3xl and to be honest I just turn on night mode on my S6 and it feels the same.
The only feature I really looked forward to was dark mode.
I'm hoping for a better DeX mode. Current works, but some apps are iffy, and some functionality is missing:
- always on top windows
- a more organised apps screen
- Improved taskbar with less clutter (gesture navigation should help with that)
- resizable handwriting keyboard
I hope for vibration settings, like on the phones. They are pretty limited on our tab s6. And rotation of the volume buttons with the screen orientation like in my old tab s. There are a lot of details that are not very nice on our flagship
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Don't forget about the boot animation that is shown in portrait mode.
A lot of little annoyances unfortunately.
Yep, exactly! Not really made with love the software
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fonix232 said:
I'm hoping for a better DeX mode. Current works, but some apps are iffy, and some functionality is missing:
- always on top windows
- a more organised apps screen
- Improved taskbar with less clutter (gesture navigation should help with that)
- resizable handwriting keyboard
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I'll add to that:
- using the keyboard to launch apps is a mess. Needs revamping.
- Mousing is bad. Outside of DeX [middle-click] = [home] and [right-click] = [back]. This is so stupid that even if by some stroke of awful luck someone actually got used to it Samsung turns it off in DeX because of course [right-click] should trigger context menus!! But, DeX handles [middle-click] in a way that prevents apps from understanding it. So it doesn't send [home] anymore but it just doesn't work either. If you wonder what apps use middle-click try a mouse with Chrome on any Pixel device. It works like it does on PC. Let's mention scrolling. The mouse wheel can only scroll in-focus apps in DeX. Like old school Windows. The OEM trackpad can scroll background apps because someone at Samsung apparently tested that. Free windows in AOSP Android since v8 scroll background windows fine, just DeX has this problem.
- Keyboard nav isn't great and I don't mean the OEM hardware. I have so far noticed the [ESC] key appears to send [back] instead of [ESC] and that's a no-go for some work loads and just breaks the paradigm for no good reason.
-My 10+ in screen really needs the notification shade centered and consuming 6 in of width?
I am used to a Pixel C and before that a Nexus 10. Neither had DeX mode and neither had an S-Pen but both tablets knew how a friggin mouse works. Both tablets knew what the [ESC] key is for. Both could be made to feel like large screen landscape tablets. Both had serious flaws but I didn't think input devices would be a problem for the Tab S6. Realize the OEM trackpad doesn't allow right clicking outside of DeX because it would send the [back] command every time someone tapped with 2 fingers! This thing feels more cobbled together every time I use it (and I am a long time Android tablet user haha).
I'm annoyed and it's because I want this to be better and it feels close like it was rushed or something and could have been better.

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