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I purchased a Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus from the Samsung website, even though their site said it wouldn't work with the GT 8.9 for some reason. As far as I can tell, there isn't much difference in this stylus and all other conductive styluses (styli?). It behaves just like a finger, allowing you to select with the tip of the stylus. The tip is rounded and fat which makes it difficult for fine writing in notepad type apps. I have practiced for a few days and have become fairly proficient at using the stylus to underline in textbooks and word documents. It's also good for signing documents with the right app.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The stylus has a good weight and feels like a quality product. I'd definitely buy the stylus again, despite being a few dollars more than the other top quality styluses made by other companies.
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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pseudoheld said:
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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I wouldn't say it's abysmal. I knew I wasn't getting a WACOM digitizer like I have on my tablet PC, or a stylus as good as the Lenovo android tablet but it does a decent job for what I wanted it for, which is marking up pdf files and maybe signing documents in the future. I added a capture of my handwriting taken at writing normal speed with no special care taken to be neat. You must subtract for my poor handwriting and the fact that the app I used doesn't have very good ignorance of a hand laying down, so my hand wasn't balanced on a flat surface as is the case when normally writing.
thanks for the answer!
will be getting a stylus anyhow so i guess i will see how its like
i just bought a stylus and i must say the screen sensitivity issue is pretty bad.
i tried the stylus with my NexusOne and it produced far better results.
the samsung screen seems slow and unresponsive to handwriting
Any chance it's your ICS ROM? I'm on Overcome ROM and it works pretty well. My wife even decided she liked the stylus with her 10.1 on Task's ROM and I ordered another from amazon.
tried it with both roms.
it just seems laggy and slow. it doesn't get small circles like "e" or "l"
but i messed around in the build.prop and it got a little better. still not what i wanted it to be though...
I agree, it's a bummer because I believe the size is perfect for a small sketchpad :/
If you want to take written notes thought download the ASUS Supernote app, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931
i would advise everyone to use freenote.
so far its the most complete note taking app i found!
Thanks for the feedback.
I´m in love with this smaller size, but since I discovered how much better the notetaking thingy seems to be with the 10.1" and TouchScreenTune, and given that the dev didn´t offer many hopes at all for the 8.9", I´m torn again between these 2 devices.
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
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Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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Thanks mate, that was very helpful.
I think the sensitivity is great. I use SuperNote on my 8.9 all the time for taking notes. No issues whatsoever and better than many other tablets I tried. Writing with a conductive stylus is smooth (not broken) and easy. Of course the resolution isn't down to what you could do with pen and paper, but that's a fundamental limitation that most all tablets share except for those that are designed with some sort of active alternative. The touchscreens have to be calibrated to pick up our fat fingers so they are relatively coarse. It's really a compromise so you don't have to have a stylus to navigate the interface like the older generation of PDAs used. I think the 8.9 is great with something like SuperNote that can take your writing and shrink it down to a decent size and align it on a line. You should really check this app out if your interested in taking notes because it is really really cool. It's only distributed on asus tablets, but the apk is floating around.
which tablet is better the Asus transformer Infinity or Samsung galaxy note 10.1
please tell us what do you think and why?
This is what I think:
for the Asus transformer Infinity:
* it has a a good super IPS+ 1920x1200 Pixels (which I Love) its great for watching full HD movies, web browsing, viewing photos, some apps like Photoshop and document editing. but it comes with some light bleeds and dynamic contrast (which I don't Like).
* it has the Nvidia Tegra 3 (1.6GHz Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9) with battery saving core. with 3D output via Micro HDMI and physics. and games look the best on it. Most tablets have the same Processor type even the Gloogle Nexus which means better support for android in the future.
* it has a nice keyboard dock with extra battery, USB host and SD card reader.
* it can run NTFS file format out of the box without any rooting or hacking.
* base model is $499 with 32G and 1G of DDR3 Ram.
For the SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 10.1:
* it has a great PLS TFT display (i likey), but with a 1280x800 Pixels (Me no likey)
* It comes with the S Pen (active digitizer), which makes it great for work, drawing and students.
* Base model (wifi only)is $735 with 16G and 2G of ram.
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so what do you think which one you would go for and why?
I'm a student and the keyboard on the infinity comes in handy a lot especially when I open my etextbooks and use the find function on certain keywords that I need to know. So I would pick the infinity.
Also I believe the wifi 16gb is 499.99 and the 32 gb is 549.99 for the note according to the rumors
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the screen of the infinity is simply amazing! the resolution is awesome and in normal usage (movies, apps, games, etc.) there is no such thing as light bleeds noticeable (even if you are searching for them)
the s-pen from the galaxy note 10.1 is not that great. I have a samsung galaxy note (phablet) and use the pen not really often. i'm also a little bit dissapointed because the pen isn't that accurate as i thought. I have the infiity and bought a cheap pen for it. that is at least the same in accuracy, i think even better. the advantage of the s-pen would be the additional button for special functions. but i noticed that it's not really a must have. I use the pen button not really often. on the note (phablet) you have to use it because otherwhise you are not able to use the back or menue button (no onscreen buttons).
I would definitly go with the infinity
I hope this helped
Perhaps this is indeed the most closest competition Infinity has on the market right now/soon.
Why NOT galaxy note 10.1.
1. Screen - In all honesty, if this unit had HD screen I might have actually considered this over the Infinity. But no HD screen is a deal breaker.
2. Price - If its really that expensive, the price will likely to either go down quickly or you will see newer better device with cheaper price tag and regret how much you paid.
3. Samsung - Horrible update. With fancy split screen, this will even get worse. One may think 4.1 Jellybean is just a minor update so good chance Samsung may push sooner than it was on ICS BUT what about next Android OS? You have to either wait almost full year or may not even be supported who knows. Whereas, ASUS have the best tracking record on this regard and now with Nexus 7, they will keep having newer android OS. As long as Nexus 7 can be updated, I am sure Transformer prime, infinity and TF300 can.
Good things about 10.1 but reason why NOT still deal breaker
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
3. 2GB RAM. Impressive decision here. However, as pretty much all Android devices at this point are 1GB and nothing really pushing to its limit yet, the chance we see anything different by having 2GB is low except you may be able to do more multitasks than usual but that will drain battery.
Truly better on Galaxy note 10.1
1. Battery Life. Simply Infinity's battery life is problem. So galaxy note 10.1 tramps it.
2. GPU. Though CPU is compatible between 2, GPU benchmark on the Galaxy note 10.1 is superior to that of Infinity by a quite margin. However, I am not certain if we will see anything specific to really utilize this power. My belief is developers will focus on the most common spec, which for tablet likely be the nexus 7. If so, Infinity will certainly not have issue. However, having said this, who knows my huge PDF may open much quicker and smoother on the Galaxy Note.
HoushaSen said:
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
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2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
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One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
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Holy smoke. This (Overskreen) is amazing. Not even requiring to root and be able to use such application. Wow. With this I don't have any restriction, basically I can browse and do anything else I want. This even supports Flash. Obviously, one Galaxy Note 10.1 user can use this as well.
Thanks a lot.
Woah that overskreen is just amazing on infinity! Thanks a lot it takes this resolution and tablet to whole neww level
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Price of Note for wifi model is $500 for 32gb, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/851200-REG/Samsung_GT_N8013EAYXAR_16GB_Galaxy_Tab_2.html
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
mywingtophone said:
One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
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Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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The only tablet that has the lowest build quality issues are the ipads everyone else is a hit or miss.
jtrosky said:
Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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I am using an app called "Floating Note free". It works great
lesonal said:
Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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i'd have to disagree. samsung has less defects and problems than asus on tablets according to forum posts and my experience. i went through 4 og transformers before i gave up. i almost got a prime until i saw all the issues still going on with asus tablets. and of course some of the same issues are still here for their latest flagship tablet (bleed, dock draining spontaneously...). the one i have has developed both bleed and the clicking (both of which developed on all my OG tf after 3 days). since i don't see the bleed unless i'm in a dark room with full brightness (something i never do in actual use) it's not really an issue. plus at full brightness in daylight it's not noticeable either. the click is a bit annoying though. in my transfomers the click was because the screen was separating.
samsung's support for the hardware is piss poor however. and sammy's aren't as popular as the tf's dev support isn't as active also.
timrock said:
dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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couldnt find it...seems like they removed it from playstore maybe?
I had actually considered waiting for this tablet, but based on all the feedback I read about how they never update their stuff, and we are already scheduled for JB, I went with the Asus.
I am still curious though, so I posted here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831115
Have a look.
i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice.
externally - the infinity wins but its not like the note is butt ugly
internally - the note wins, benchmarks proves it and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. does the android need it? who cares, the more the better.
build quality - note: general consensus says samsung is the best out of the androids tablets and no one has complained about the build of the note. the infinity does have a few, but so far they havent manifested into sometime you really need to worry about. some people have gotten a perfect infinity though.
FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. Did anyone complain about the prime's resolution when it came out (at the moment more ppi than the ipad 2)? people just got spoiled, but it would be nice (ive seen the differences and it looks great). the note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring.
i/o - doesn't exists in samsungs world. i know the .26 fixed it for the most part (funny, i notice that after that update the infinity forum got a little less active)
updates - asus wins hands down but from all the reviews on the note its working perfectly fine out of the box. its not like jellybean is going to make it 3 times faster, the note is already fast on ics. keep in mind samsung makes the cpu and the tablet which may explain why their tablet are so much more fluid. alot of people are betting on jellybean to fix the io problem on the infinity but its not for sure.
speakers - the note has two speakers that is on the front pointed towards you.
keyboard - depends on the person, i will mainly need a tablet to write on and if i were to ever need a keyboard i can always use a bluetooth keyboard.
bluetooth - some people are having issues on their infinity with audio sync. the note doesnt have that and has aptx, an audio codec that improves the quality of the sound it is streaming (youll need an aptx compliant receiver though).
ir - the ir on the note is convenient for my time off being lazy on the couch web browsing while watching tv.
spen - some have complained about their experience on the orginal note but reviews has said samsung has improved it on the note 10.1. ive played with the orginal note and didnt have anything to complain about on the writing experience. at the moment no additional accessories can mimic an active digitizer (the cregle pen for ipad does look promising though)
gaming - even though the note has a better gpu, nvidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. hence, the tegra 3 gaming apps so the infinity may have a better gaming longevity if you want to get the fullest out of some games.
developers - asus diffidently has the most support from the community. although one main developer of CyanogenMod has given up on the infinity
as it stands (my opinion),
infinity: beautiful and expensive ereader and if you're a man that gambles, youll appreciate it more if you get a good one. gaming is better on it but there has been complaints about freezes (may be due to io) so thats kind of counterintuitive. betting that jb will fix io is too much for me.
but if the fhd and aluminum frame is really that important and you can overlook the possible issues of the infinity, get the infinity. hopefully all the complaints on the infinity are just from a select few and you will be bless with a perfect one.
note 10.1: a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box. in the end the only downside i see on note is not having a full hd but that shouldn't really matter. at the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note.
right now im at 60 on the note, 40 on the infinity. but in the end it will really depend on the price. the early releases of the note are pretty expensive but that's usually how it is until the official release of the product has been revealed. theres no real official word from samsung saying that there will be a wifi only version and whether how much any of the models will cost. the price will determine which one i buy forsure.
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
Mike_23 said:
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
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you can make calls from pretty much any tablet. All you need is a google voice number and/or GrooveIP.
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@denniegst
You try to convince yourself that the GNote 10.1 is better than the TF700, Denniegst.
I show you.
"i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice."
I am an engineering student too, if I need to calculate / take notes with formulas / graphs, paper and pencil is much better for those rough copy. I don't need to buy GNote 10.1 for 500$ to make rough copy. But when I travel, or when I am somewhere else, I need something to write my report, with a physical keyboard and more battery (TF700).
Moreover, I am a student and I like watching movies / TV series, Full HD is much better. With a mini Boombox that's awesome ! The Full HD is also very good to do web browsing, I don't want to go back to something less then HD !! :silly:
I really suggest you to take TF700... I know S-Pen seems funny, but you would only use it for Draw Something App, and maybe to have fun with your friends on S-Note.
About hardware, TF700 is very strong, for some years (even with Full HD games + PS3 gamepad).
"externally, internally, and build quality..."
Subjectives views. As you wish. Benchmarks are meaningless, you can't compare Full HD with non-HD tablet. But both GNote & TF700 are
"FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. The note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring."
I won't go back to 1200*800 or HD now. Full HD is the best, for multimedia or even for web browsing, or games, or ... everything. :good:
"i/o and updates"
TF700 has no problem here. I don't know about GNote. But as you said, ASUS wins.
About updates, you can't say that Jelly Bean isn't going to make it 3 times faster, that's not the point. That's about fixing issues. And if you were @2.3.6 for example, you know that you would like to be @4.0. If you were @4.0, you would like to play with 4.1 or more.
"speakers and keyboard"
Both things called "accessories". But, TF700 has more than an accessories because his keyboard is perfectly suitable for it, with a battery. For example, I'm going to have 7 hours plane, that will be a good help.
Speakers are tablet speakers... if you really do care about this, I suggest mini BoomBox, or Jambox ($$$).
About the battery, we can't believe Samsung or ASUS numbers, the community reports are good. I don't know them, but TF700 has a good thing : NVidia 4+1 processors. When you put "Battery Saving" mode, there is only 1 processor on, you can watch 1080p movies anyway, and the battery is going on for long.
"spen"
I have a bad opinion on this, because I think that's more a gadget. I am engineering student too, and S-Pen won't help us, but it would slow down our note taking. You can have fun with Draw Something App anyway...
"gaming and developers"
As you said, NVidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. But I would like to talk about Full HD Gaming, it really works very good ! That's the future...
And you know that ASUS has a good community.
"a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box"
Of course not ! It can't replace paper and pen !! You'll see... Try to work in groups for example (engineer stuff), with a GNote... Try to write equations and talk about it with colleagues with GNote... Try to do some maths with your GNote... I can assure you that a paper + pencil is irreplaceable.
"At the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note."
Full HD in not a luxury feature ! :laugh:
That's the future ! That's much easier to work on Full HD, that's much better for movies, that's much better for everything.
About "peace and mind on quality build and io", you can't know that. You will see after weeks, but ASUS is good too, in my opinion. You just try to convince yourself I think.
I think that you will buy the GNote. But I really would like to talk with you few weeks later, then few months later. We will see.
@Mike_23
"Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature "
Do you mean that you can put a SIM Card with 30$/month ?
You already have a phone. And there are application to put use your phone with your tablet if you need it. Or Viber, or Skype, ...
ASUS TF700 has everything we need for some years (HDMI, Wifi Direct, Full HD, Keyboard + battery, strong hardware, USB which support external hard drive, µSD and SD (in the keyboard), touchpad (or mouse with USB port), ..). S-Pen could be there, but it's not very important for me... I already have a capacitive pencil, and I never use it !
I'd like you to tell me everything that's wrong with the Note 10.1 (freezing, stuttering, lag, connectivity drops, etc.). Let me get this out of the way first.
I LOVE ANDROID. Let's get that out of the way. I am trying to decide if I am going to buy a Note 10.1 or not, but I'd like your experience to help me. Here is the list of what I've had...
Xoom - Nice tablet, but the weight and thickness wasn't my thing, so I returned it for a Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I got this tablet when it first launched. Great tablet. Never a huge fan of Touchwiz, but it wasn't very intrusive. Wasn't happy with Samsung's software support (updates very slow, Hulu not supported, source code not dropped for easy upgrade to ICS via ROM). Overall I was very happy.
Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 - Sold GTab for this. Screen was awesome, connectivity ports were great (USB, HDMI, SD card), ICS installed at launch. It's one MAJOR problem was the poor quality control which has led many people to problems. I dealt with a ton of lag/stuttering/freezing issues while any sort of data transfer occurred such as app updates. I dealt with it for 45 days and couldn't handle it anymore. The only other issue was low speaker volume. I return it for the iPad3
iPad 3 / New iPad - I didn't like my options in the Android space for a new tablet and the guy at BestBuy told me the Note 10.1 drops WiFi intermittently, so I decided to give iOS a shot. The hardware is great. It's high quality, feels solid, and is very smooth (hardware/OS integration). It's biggest problem is that it runs iOS. I feel very limited by the OS being an Android guy. I don't want to spread my dollars across 2 ecosystems and I will not leave my Android phone (Galaxy Nexus). While the system is smooth and serves basically all of my needs, it's not Android. I even jailbroke it and got certain features I like from Android, but it's not doing it for me (no mouse support, no customizable keyboards, most apps aren't free, no custom ROMS, that damn Home button, etc.)
I KNOW that the Note screen isn't HD, but I didn't mind the GTab screen. I know Hulu isn't officially supported, but due to XDA I should be able to install the hacked APK, I know it runs Touchwiz, but if I don't like it there are ROMs to replace it.
I think BestBuy (and my wife) will kill me if I return a 3rd tablet to them. Please tell me what you don't like. My biggest concern is the "flexible" plastic back. Felt like I was going to break it in the store.
Hello, I am a fellow convert from the TF700. Although the screen was great, the lag ruined that tablet for me. So about this guy, fits in hand much better, I have not had any lag or fc, which I was having regularly on TF700. I use it for school and can honestly say it has officially replaced my notebook. The only real qualms I thought I would have is the resolution, but surprisingly I hardly notice. I would recommend giving this tablet a shot.
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Not to seem rude, but there are already about 8 threads that cover all of this many times over.
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Not to seem rude, but there are already about 8 threads that cover all of this many times over.
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I agree, but I couldn't find exactly what I wanted so I created a new thread.
Sorry that it's sort of repetitive.
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You will lag if you have a lot of widgets. But it seems jelly bean update fixed it
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
Im going to have to give the edge to the note. The combination of lower resolution and 2gigs of ram make it super fast. When i open an app on both devices at the same time i will say the note wins a majority of the time. When it comes to web browsing the note is a clear cut winner when scrolling through pages very little hangups. The infinity isnt far behind though and i am not a fanboy for either device i think they are both great but raw performance goes to the note.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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for me plastic is cheap, no matter what kind u use, and if you use shiny plastics thats less cheaper haptics than ASUS.
Have you tried TF700T with 4.1 JB ROM? It is a lot more responsive and no more lags at all. More Resolution means more work for the Memory even on the UI, if it isn't optimized for this it would lag. Or did you have seen a more resoponsive Full HD Tablet now?! The I/O Troubles from cheap chips? Hynix 64GB NAND chip in 2X nm technology? Not the main problem about the I/O troubles more kernel side I think.
Yes Design is subjective. But please tell me that you better choose the Note Design over the Apple iPad's or ASUS TF700's. That should be a joke. Every review out there calls the plastic cheap.. and what feels cheap has a bad haptic in my understanding.
Stylus is a pretty nice feature for sure, but to be clear if you have the choice between Full HD and Stylus I choose Full HD because more density is just more.. more website, more picture, more from everything. If you want to draw on your tablet or you take handwritten notes often the stylus is yours. But why no full hd with stylus? the Display is just cheap and the display is one of the most important parts of a tablet.
I never had any real delay on my TF700T just little lags like on the most 4.0 Devices but from what you say delay in office I've never seen anything.
Tell me you would not prefer a Galaxy Note 10.1 and ASUS TF700T combination. The best of both worlds. ASUS Metal Body, Display, Dock, Camera, DDR3 and maybe Samsungs Stylus, 2GB Dualchannel Memory, IR-remote.
And as long as this perfect tablet doesn't exists everyone have to choose wich points he gives more wight.
And WHAT?! Rooting don't viod ASUS Warranty. Even unlocked ASUS still is cool with hardware defects.
Samsung also have a way to see what you have installed on your tablet and will don't give you warranty if you do great ****. Ever heard about Binary Counter?
Ever heard of the app that resets binary counter? Not like Asus which logs your s/n and has denied many warranty claims on that fact alone.
Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
I guess you could search the infinity forum and the note forum and see which has more complaint threads.
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Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
Well this got a lil out of hand lol. i was just answering a question that someone asked. He asked what one was faster and i gave him my opinion on it after playing with both side by side. He didn't seem worried about what they were made of, what JB would bring or what rooting/custom roms would do. Im guessing he was talking about sock out of the box devices if im worng then im sorry. I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war thread.
I have a Motorola Droid and an Infinity so if anyone wants to ask questions about that matchup, fire away.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
i'm not a fan boy of asus, infact i have GS3. I have tried so hard to like the Galaxy Note 10.1. Bought it and returned it to bestbuy TWICE. trying to like it more than my asus and just can't. First i hate the cheap plastic YES CHEAP PLASTIC. hate it when you are holding the devices it feel SO CHEAP. Second the screen sucks compare to asus, cannot look at such low resolution and salutated colors, third i cannot get use to using a big touchwiz tablet, with all that crap installed. I understand that you can install custom rom, but 90% of the people don't even know about custom rom so they are force to use the tablet just has it is. With the infinity you don't have to do any of that. It looks plain ICS just the way i like it. Touchwiz looks to cartoony made for kids. I use my tablet for presentation and HDMI output is a must for me. Hate the way samsung uses HDMI, have to buy a $40 xtra connector plus using MHL hdmi requires Xtra power connector to an outlet for it to work. Asus tf700 run a microHDMI from tablet to HDMI TV and done.
OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
I also have a note 10.1 that i won at work. Its nice, the pen thing is pretty cool but otherwise useless unless i want to draw or be an artsy pantsy dude. I mean using supernote on my infinity and writing with my fingers is as good if not better than the S pen app suite from samsung. The tablet is quite more responsive because lag plaigs the transformer but again, the TF700 has the ressources, just need to work on the software issue. The note is fatter, thicker and chunkier, it feels much cheaper also. The TF700 overall is the better tablet, it feel premium, has a beatiful screen resolution that in certain cases is better. I've compared both tablet side-by-side and played an MKV bluray rip and suprisingly the note has better, brighter colors, the blue is more blue, the greens are more green and in color saturation its considerably nicer. but unless you compare side by side, there is no way to know.
P.S. I can make a side by side video for you guys tonight
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
pierrekid said:
I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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I encourage people to express opinion. But don't express it as fact.
beston94 said:
That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
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I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks before returning. Prior to which I had Transformer Infinity for almost 4 weeks. So what I have now? I am back to Infinity and plan to keep it.
Galaxy Note 10.1 essentially superior to Infinity every aspect except screen i.e. smoother, more stable, faster (especially browser), longer tablet standalone battery life. This is a fact. You put things side by side and ran same applications, it is easy to see without even running benchmark tests.
So why I chose Infinity? Because the difference in aforementioned areas are to me not significant enough to the difference in screen resolution.
Full HD is (to me) noticeble every seconds I use the tablet. Slightly less stability i.e. random crash every other day or so (which for some reason seemed to have improved) vs. once every week is manageable. Loading web page is slower but that is like 10 seconds on really flash heavy site that I visit so I am losing probably 5-10 minutes every day at most because of the difference in page loading time.
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OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
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I prolly wont do any vids there are quite a few on youtube.
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Thats OK said:
Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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Yeah little typo, it doesnt seem that i proofread. Sorry about that.
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Hi
been considering either the note 10.1 or the Infinity. The infinity checks more boxes, with regards to battery life and ports etc, , not to mention the keyboard,but kinda keen on a wacom or pen inking solution. Still have my prime, but the screen is rubbish for inking on it ( tried 4 diff. pens, amongst other adonit Jot) . so in short what' i'm wondering is , infinity any better? More accurate? if so what apps do you use / have you tried
Check out the "Benchmarks" section of this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...mer-pad-tf300-prime-tf201-and-infinity-tf700/
I've ordered a pen (a Maglus, to be specific), and plan on using it for next semester at uni. In short though, the digitizer on the TF700T, is much better than the Prime.
Anynone with personal experience with inking on the tab?
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Anynone with personal experience with inking on the tab?
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I'm not a professional, but just playing around I found it to be painfully laggy, though apparently the digitizer is good. I don't know what difference having a nice stylus would make, but mine is cheap for the record.