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Say Hello to a Confused and Recent HTC Convert

I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!

hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).

What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.

vbhines said:
What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.

Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.

vbhines said:
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.

Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).

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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
Krad said:
hello_______
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Funny.
dayv said:
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.

sdotbrucato said:
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.

came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol

hokiemiata said:
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 4 Froyo - RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast

bytemare said:
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?

bigdaddy4u said:
Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 4 Froyo - RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast

besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.

vbhines said:
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.

bigdaddy4u said:
Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.

Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 4 Froyo - RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast

wmwilker said:
If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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Trying to decide which ROM to go with, hoping it fixes my issues

Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.

Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18

Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.

You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.

You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.

Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?

rodimus_prime said:
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.

rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html

I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.

Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.

I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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osendott said:
Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..

just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though

rodimus_prime said:
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...

im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet

rodimus_prime said:
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.

Eh... Is it just me that thinks this update is great?

Hi everyone.
Is it just me? I think this GB update is great. The phone is much faster, much more responsive, doesnt lock up, no wifi issues. Everything is great. I did like the older camera better but i mean comeon why are so many people's main complaint the camera lol.
Im sure we will be seeing more small updates as bugs are discovered just like in any software but all in all im happy with this update, im happy with this phone and I still love it as I did before

johnnyp500 said:
Hi everyone.
Is it just me? I think this GB update is great. The phone is much faster, much more responsive, doesnt lock up, no wifi issues. Everything is great. I did like the older camera better but i mean comeon why are so many people's main complaint the camera lol.
Im sure we will be seeing more small updates as bugs are discovered just like in any software but all in all im happy with this update, im happy with this phone and I still love it as I did before
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It's definitely a zillion times better than the stock ROM, but that's pretty easy to accomplish when your starting reference is absolute rock bottom worthless garbage.

my phone is a lot faster and my battery life is great camera sucks but not a big deal I guess.
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Stock rom
Funny thing is my stock rom with Faux OC/UV when set at 1.0 ghz actually is snappier than the tooted Gingerbread OTA with all bloat removed. On Froyo when I would hit the home button over and over it woulp flip from Homescreen to Sense Preview instantly, blazing fast. When I do the same, with the identical ADW set-up the Sense preview lags. I seem to have more bugs with GB than my last Froyo setup.
Another annoyance, when the phone is asleep, when I hit power the display lights up immediately, but before I can get to the Widget Locker slider the display goes dark again. This never happened with Froyo.
Lastly, when in a call with phone to my ear with Froyo if I move the phone from my ear the dialpad woudl appear as if it was using one of accelerometer (or whatever device) to track my movement. On GB the display stays dark. If I hit power to access the dial pad, i.e. to hit an extension, the display again lights, but goes dark before I can hit the numbers.
This is all after a flashing stock froyo, unrooting and installing via the LG updater (which was an adventure as it took forever). After updating reinstalled CWM and flashed Xboarders 1.0 Rooted OTA).
Honestly, if the new baseband works with Froyo, and if someone tells me restoring my pre-GB Nandroid will let me retain the baseband I may just go back as things were really nice in my Froyo set-up.
I know many folks are loving GB, other it is hell, mine is not bad at all, but weird thing is my Froyo experience was actually better. If I can get the baseband on Froyo and the GPS locks with Froyo like it is now I will stick with Froyo.

cant we install a better camera-app?

johnnyp500 said:
Hi everyone.
Is it just me? I think this GB update is great. The phone is much faster, much more responsive, doesnt lock up, no wifi issues. Everything is great. I did like the older camera better but i mean comeon why are so many people's main complaint the camera lol.
Im sure we will be seeing more small updates as bugs are discovered just like in any software but all in all im happy with this update, im happy with this phone and I still love it as I did before
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No, it's not just you. I love the update and i'm quite happy with my phone.
And unlike everyone else posting on this thread, i'm not going to throw in some negative jab at the end either.

Camera app is the biggest let down for me. I've tried other camera apps on market but nothing compares to the lg one
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jabhome said:
Funny thing is my stock rom with Faux OC/UV when set at 1.0 ghz actually is snappier than the tooted Gingerbread OTA
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Lol ... the tooted Gingerbread OTA
G2X CM7

Could not agree more. I am super happy with the phone. Extremely responsive and I like the little changes in the looks as well. I also am happy with the darker keyboard.
All around I am happy I kept the phone.

My main gripe is that they were supposedly working on this update for a couple of months. So I just don't understand why the finished product doesn't have the LG Camera app. If this came out back in May, then I'd understand. If this OTA fixes the major software issues, then I'm fine. I do hope we actually get the Ice cream update next year though.

I love the update so far. Snappy, GPS locks instantly, I got to keep all my apps settings and data, and everything works great until now. I was rooted on Eagles's Blood GB, and just updated straight forward, no downgrading, no unrooting. (i did loose root, but hey, they'll crack this baby soon enough)

phburks said:
Lol ... the tooted Gingerbread OTA
G2X CM7
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Too funny, rooted.
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JediFonger said:
cant we install a better camera-app?
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I really like Vignette.

jabhome said:
Funny thing is my stock rom with Faux OC/UV when set at 1.0 ghz actually is snappier than the tooted Gingerbread OTA with all bloat removed. On Froyo when I would hit the home button over and over it woulp flip from Homescreen to Sense Preview instantly, blazing fast. When I do the same, with the identical ADW set-up the Sense preview lags. I seem to have more bugs with GB than my last Froyo setup.
Another annoyance, when the phone is asleep, when I hit power the display lights up immediately, but before I can get to the Widget Locker slider the display goes dark again. This never happened with Froyo.
Lastly, when in a call with phone to my ear with Froyo if I move the phone from my ear the dialpad woudl appear as if it was using one of accelerometer (or whatever device) to track my movement. On GB the display stays dark. If I hit power to access the dial pad, i.e. to hit an extension, the display again lights, but goes dark before I can hit the numbers.
This is all after a flashing stock froyo, unrooting and installing via the LG updater (which was an adventure as it took forever). After updating reinstalled CWM and flashed Xboarders 1.0 Rooted OTA).
Honestly, if the new baseband works with Froyo, and if someone tells me restoring my pre-GB Nandroid will let me retain the baseband I may just go back as things were really nice in my Froyo set-up.
I know many folks are loving GB, other it is hell, mine is not bad at all, but weird thing is my Froyo experience was actually better. If I can get the baseband on Froyo and the GPS locks with Froyo like it is now I will stick with Froyo.
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AFAIK roms and nandroids do not include basebands.
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You should be able to use the new baseband on the old froyo rom no problem. There aren't any incompatibilities
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johnnyp500 said:
Hi everyone.
Is it just me? I think this GB update is great. The phone is much faster, much more responsive, doesnt lock up, no wifi issues. Everything is great. I did like the older camera better but i mean comeon why are so many people's main complaint the camera lol.
Im sure we will be seeing more small updates as bugs are discovered just like in any software but all in all im happy with this update, im happy with this phone and I still love it as I did before
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Well its not working for me. My phone is freezing a few times a day since the update. I had reboots before the update but never a freeze. I went into my local Tmobile store to check out the Sensation and the My touch 4G slide. The guy working there was shaking his head when I told him I was having these problems even with Gingerbread and he pulls his phone out of his pocket and its a G2X. He says he gets the same thing LOL! My GPS as gone from 3 mins lock to 5 mins to a lock after the update. I have a full upgrade credit but think I will wait for the Hercules in Sept.

I like the update. Works well for me.

jabhome said:
when in a call with phone to my ear with Froyo if I move the phone from my ear the dialpad woudl appear as if it was using one of accelerometer (or whatever device) to track my movement. On GB the display stays dark. If I hit power to access the dial pad, i.e. to hit an extension, the display again lights, but goes dark before I can hit the numbers.
This is all after a flashing stock froyo, unrooting and installing via the LG updater (which was an adventure as it took forever). After updating reinstalled CWM and flashed Xboarders 1.0 Rooted OTA).
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It doesn't sound like you're running the stock GB? Also, it sounds like your proximity sensor isn't working, i.e., the phone always thinks your face is up against the phone and immediately turns-off the screen to avoid cheek dialing.

I'm digging the gb update and the new go launcher together. I think the screen looks alot better too. It just seems sharper and more vivid. My wife has the Samsung Exhibit and that is a really nice phone and comparing the two screens together is no competition. The g2x screen is so sharp it looks fake.
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No I love it too, people are whiners...

Disappointed with stock (JB) experience?

Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.

Stock JB was very laggy on my NS for some reason. Even swipping pages in the home screen was laggy. Some apps would instantly crash, too.

I've been running custom JB roms on my Nexus S, and its been running really well. The only thing is im experiencing the same lag that you do with Google Now. It has caused me to open my browser to do a search, which is disappointing, because in GB and ICS, the Google Search bar was so quick and convenient.

shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?

Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.

polobunny said:
The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
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heh, that's a fair point. I'm not so upset with the cards taking a long time to load as I am that, while they are loading, the OS is very unstable. It's difficult for me to bring up the keyboard and search google while it's trying to load those cards. I can't believe it's not butter
Nothijngrad said:
Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
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My thoughts exactly . I was excited to get back on stock so I could have a functional phone without any added bells and whistles. New features are nice, but not at this price.

Try running a custom kernel.. Try the thalamus kernel its very stockish and it's SUPER smooth..
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I'm running stock on [email protected] with a matrix kernel everything smooth for me
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I had problems with JB too. There were a few lags, especially with Google Now. Some apps would crash every time I tried to open them, and the launcher crashed every time I tried to change wall paper.

shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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Hmm I can say that AOSP JB is WAYYYY better than ICS. Soon I can port my ROM from the NS4G to the NS.

I have to agree with this. I've used stock JB when it was released, I was wowed by it's smoothness and cool animations. But everything felt a little slow and sluggish coming from ICS custom rom. After switching to Jellybro, JB feels both very fast and smooth. If you feel disappointed with JB, try using custom rom.
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I don't know if you guys with problem tried that yet, but it might be a good idea to do a factory reset. You will lose all your data if not backed up but I'm getting a feeling it could help. JB has only been smoother than ICS for most.

Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.

In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.

got556 said:
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
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I just got my GNex and the difference with JB on this phone is night and day. I didn't think it would be but I'm pleasantly surprised. But yeah. The RAM issue seems to be my biggest gripe with it on the NS. And for some reason, it just dominated my battery. I went through my first cycle on stock with Trinity and managed 3.5 hours of screen time over the course of almost 17 hours and still had a little under 50% remaining. My NS would've been dead long before that with the same usage pattern.....

I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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ekerazha said:
In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice

I'm running Androxide 3.1 and used to run AdamG's custom ROM. Both ran great, no hiccups what so ever, Google now loads very fast, I guess it depends on your GPS and internet connection. My experience with JB is far better than the fastest ICS ROM out there, I believe given enough time, performance will become exceptional.

Logomotph said:
I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
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That can be tweaked a bit with different kernels.

I am running XenonHD 9 + marmite 4.2 kernel. It's stable and smooth. Worth a try.

My Experience with CM10

My experience with CM10.0 on the Rogers HTC One X has not been very good! My first impression of the ROM was like WOW this is as buttery-smooth as advertised! I loved everything about it. But after 2 days of use I noticed the following:
1. My battery drains way faster than before
2. Google Navigation works for a minute than my 4G drops completely and naturally, navigation stops working as well.
3. My contact names stopped showing up on SMS. All my contacts were just represented by their phone numbers.
With all these horrible bugs, I had to go back to CleanROM. Which is really sad cuz I love Jellybean
What's your experience been like?

mozer0 said:
My experience with CM10.0 on the Rogers HTC One X has not been very good! My first impression of the ROM was like WOW this is as buttery-smooth as advertised! I loved everything about it. But after 2 days of use I noticed the following:
1. My battery drains way faster than before
2. Google Navigation works for a minute than my 4G drops completely and naturally, navigation stops working as well.
3. My contact names stopped showing up on SMS. All my contacts were just represented by their phone numbers.
With all these horrible bugs, I had to go back to CleanROM. Which is really sad cuz I love Jellybean
What's your experience been like?
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issues 1 and 2 are known bugs and have already been reported to the issue tracker. Don't know about 3.

Not a fan of the black ones, but starburst jellybeans are my fav

Sounds like a rant thread
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mozer0 said:
My experience with CM10.0 on the Rogers HTC One X has not been very good! My first impression of the ROM was like WOW this is as buttery-smooth as advertised! I loved everything about it. But after 2 days of use I noticed the following:
1. My battery drains way faster than before
2. Google Navigation works for a minute than my 4G drops completely and naturally, navigation stops working as well.
3. My contact names stopped showing up on SMS. All my contacts were just represented by their phone numbers.
With all these horrible bugs, I had to go back to CleanROM. Which is really sad cuz I love Jellybean
What's your experience been like?
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I have been using CM10 exclusively for about 3 months now so it's stable and has great battery life (easily 20 hours of normal usage for me). There are bugs but I have learned to either fix them on my own or live with them. It's way better than using Sense in my opinion. CM10.1 is my current ROM and I'm loving how responsive it is, so great things are coming!
Development for both CM10 and CM10.1 were halted basically all through December, and now that the devs are working with Android 4.2 I doubt there will be any groundbreaking improvements to CM10. h8rift is working hard on getting CM10.1 to a daily-driver state, though, so hopefully it won't be too long!

ethantarheels123 said:
issues 1 and 2 are known bugs and have already been reported to the issue tracker. Don't know about 3.
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Where was the battery bug reported? I can't find it. Would like to follow progress on that front.
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I think cm10 is good rom. You might need to switch off the gps and sync while not using it. Hope this help.

As long as I stick to wifi (or alternatively use 2g if I'm doing something low data rate like IM), cm10 works well for me.
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mozer0 said:
My experience with CM10.0 on the Rogers HTC One X has not been very good! My first impression of the ROM was like WOW this is as buttery-smooth as advertised! I loved everything about it. But after 2 days of use I noticed the following:
1. My battery drains way faster than before
2. Google Navigation works for a minute than my 4G drops completely and naturally, navigation stops working as well.
3. My contact names stopped showing up on SMS. All my contacts were just represented by their phone numbers.
With all these horrible bugs, I had to go back to CleanROM. Which is really sad cuz I love Jellybean
What's your experience been like?
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you forgot to mention that the camera kinda sucks too

mozer0 said:
My experience with CM10.0 on the Rogers HTC One X has not been very good! My first impression of the ROM was like WOW this is as buttery-smooth as advertised! I loved everything about it. But after 2 days of use I noticed the following:
1. My battery drains way faster than before
2. Google Navigation works for a minute than my 4G drops completely and naturally, navigation stops working as well.
3. My contact names stopped showing up on SMS. All my contacts were just represented by their phone numbers.
With all these horrible bugs, I had to go back to CleanROM. Which is really sad cuz I love Jellybean
What's your experience been like?
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also for #1 dont forget to turn NFC off wont drastically change it but itll help with battery

Ive use the stock one with sense and it worked great, but since i like to mod my phone i installed CM10 and its working good to, not perfect but good, the phone its really great and im happy using stock or cm10, this is a great phone :highfive:

My experience with cm10 is not good. Battery drains to fast ...

I'm able to get about 12-14 hours on CM10 pretty easily. For the guys who have sucky battery life, here is something to try. Once you install everything and give the ROM a couple of hours to settle, go into recover and do a backup, then wipe everything and then do a restore from the backup you just made. It's pretty much the equivalent of defragging your computer hard drive.
Every few weeks when my phone gets laggy or I feel like battery is draining I do this, and it picks right back up. This was recommended by Turge (HTC ONE X Venom Developer) and it works really well for me.

cocinci said:
you forgot to mention that the camera kinda sucks too
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You haven't used an AOSP ROM that uses the 4.2 camera have you? It's not quite as good as the Sense camera but it's dang close. You can flash the 4.2 camera on Cm10. The thread is in the themes and apps section.
I've never actually used CM10 bit I've used tons of AOSP ROMs that are pretty much all based on CM10 and have none of the issues from the OP. I get great battery life, my gps works perfectly, and all my contacts show up perfectly as well. Maybe give another ROM a try. I use JellyBam with Rohan's kernel and it's just about perfect.
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I've found battery life to be reasonable, especially on wifi. Make sure to turn location settings such as background reporting off. These drain battery life tremendously. Also I have found the sense camera to be far better.

I have had similar problems:
- since the sept 13th nightly mms photo previews is broken.
- camera in panorama mode crashes the whole os sometimes
- battery life could be better
- I've noticed bugs when trying to search contacts in the phone app via dial pad (hanging until I restart the phone app )
That's all I can recall. Overall cm is very nice though and I love the speed and having google now. These are bugs I've noticed in the stable version.

Battery drain is awful on all non-Sense based ROMs. You need to disable almost every useful service on the phone to get a long full day out of it. THis is one of the reasons I went back to running Viper (de-Sensed) with Nova. Battery is MUCH better :good:

I have had most of the issue mentioned above as well as rebooting multiple times a day

the_scotsman said:
Battery drain is awful on all non-Sense based ROMs. You need to disable almost every useful service on the phone to get a long full day out of it. THis is one of the reasons I went back to running Viper (de-Sensed) with Nova. Battery is MUCH better :good:
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I fully agree, it seems to me like Sense ROM's are the only way to go if battery life is a concern. After using the official CM10 rom and variants like JellyBam and comparing them to ViperXL, there's just no contest. Non-Sense roms just aren't optimized well. Things like wakelock issues really put a dent in expected battery life.
That said, the AOSP theme just looks better. I can't get over how ugly the pattern unlock is for sense compared to AOSP!
AOSP is just cleaner, more refined, and more current. I hope battery improvements can be made, but I really doubt it'll be anytime soon.

I have been using CM10 since November, and I never have any GPS problem. Battery isn't bad, as long as it lasts full day I am fine with it.