Why is the Windows8 section kept as is?
there is a Winphone8 section to replace it.
do you intend to have Linux and MacOS as part of the forum as well now, having developers on regular platforms and not only mobile available here now too?
Seems to be incorrect and misplaced , not saying out of the ordinary when its here but not really supported by many.
There should definitely be a Linux forum here IMO considering that Linux has a lot of potential on the tablets and phones we see now..
ya I would love to see xda having a Linux specific forum
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ya I would love to see xda having a Linux specific forum
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I am too, i think linux is the best for that...:good:
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I humbly suggest that all Devs who are Cooking ROMS and/or making software that is NOT device specific or are for multiple devices move their discussions/threads to the following forums:
XDA Android Software Development
Then we can allow much of the clutter on the Dream forum for just Dream specific software/ROMS, etc.
This forum, since it was the first on this site, is being used by a majority of devs (and, others) to develop/discuss many issues/items NOT specific to the HTC Dream.
I would believe that anyone who created a thread and wished it to be moved could have it done so by making a request to a moderator.
Let me know what you think.
ALSO, there is a general xda forum now for Android Themes:
XDA Android Themes
And, one for Applications and Games:
XDA Applications and Games
should clean things up considerably -- just have more sections to watch
Very, very good. I would hope a lot of threads get moved over there from the Magic/Hero/Dream forums to help seed the place a bit more. A vast majority of the Apps in the Dream Applications section, for example, could be moved over there...
yay, another forum to keep track of! (-_-)....
Wow...someone actually listened to our suggestions, and took action? I'm amazed!
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And, one for Applications and Games:
XDA Dream Applications and Games
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You should remove the word "Dream" from your link text....habitual, I know.
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Wow...someone actually listened to our suggestions, and took action? I'm amazed!
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You should remove the word "Dream" from your link text....habitual, I know.
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HA!!! LOL Fixed!
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yay, another forum to keep track of! (-_-)....
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Depends on your purpose for being here. I really would prefer just to check this one for new ROMS, check the Dream Theme forum for new themes...
Then go to the general ones for everything else.
Just makes it easier to search for information! I hate having to troll through ALL the posts here to look for the general Android software development threads!!!
Can we have a dedicated development section for the Cliq, even though its a non HTC device? I mean I know XDA was started specifically for HTC phones. But isn't it time XDA expands and matures?
XDA-Developers and non HTC devices
thefoss has an *excellent* point which has been going around my head in the past couple of days. With the imminent arrival (and my imminent purchase ) of at least two quite interesting Android devices, made by companies other than HTC.
thefoss said:
Can we have a dedicated development section for the Cliq, even though its a non HTC device? I mean I know XDA was started specifically for HTC phones. But isn't it time XDA expands and matures?
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XDA was founded as, and has been a site dedicated to HTC manufactured devices (my first one was my Typhoon which to this day I still sometimes use). Such devices always sported Windows Mobile (all different incarnations) so it used to be a synonym with Windows Mobile/CE/whatever. The exception being the Sony Xperia X1, I assume because of its relative relevance on the marketas well as the fact that sports Windows Mobile.
Then came Android on the HTC Dream. At this point, XDA (at least on my opinion) became the Driving Force behind the "Expert" Android OS mod as well as to the informal user support movement.
We all know that a barrage of new Android devices is coming down the pipe, not just one or two...
What do you guys think? Mods? Owners of the forum? Poll? This is a major deal (to me) and I am torn on the issue...
Running a title-only search for 'android forum' yields quite some many results.
it seems like many on xda want their own android subforum. polls show that most think it makes sense. I agree with that because for people not interested in anything linux based it's totally annoying to have android threads everywhere. on the other hand if you're looking for some linux based / android image it's easier to have a special place for that.
So it's overall a good step imho.
The reason for posting this thread is that I have some thought on that:
It might be better to put one main forum instead of many subfora for linux/android:
Many htcs with the same chip share the same linux codebase and can run the same android/ubuntu/whatever roms. Also most of the msm7*/qsd8* device forums have at least one linux/android topic thread. You will end up with one linux/android subforum for each device.
=> development processes and rom distribution are eased when focused in one place.
It's not ideal to create *android*-only subfora.
Since there are many linux distributions you have quite some stuff that won't fit an android subforum.
Let's say you made some ubuntu image for the blackstone you want to share. Blackstone android rom development is the wrong place then because ubuntu is, just like android, linux based. And not vice versa.
Same if you have a question about a linux driver on your blackstone. Same problem. That'd be linux kernel related and has nothing to do with android.
=> It is better to use different naming. e.g. linux & android rom development. This will reduce confusion and make the splitting into wince / linux based topics more efficient.
My 2 cents
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Doesn't this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=564
svetius said:
Doesn't this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=564
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I forgot to mention that I'm talking about the devices that support linux non officially!
I'm sorry for causing confusion.
Well still your answer would make sense to my first point.
Forget about that. I guess it is better to have those device specific linux/android subforums in the device main forums! Cause that's where people are looking for them.
Still concerned about the second thing about the subforum names though. Could you give me a thought on that (now that you know I'm referring to the non-official linux/android devices)
I think they should really be Linux (and android) subforums, and not android only.
Ok, so just to be clear, you think that we ought to rename the device-specific Android forums for WinMo device (like Blackstone, Rhodium, etc) to include Linux? So instead of:
Touch HD Android Development
it would be:
Touch HD Linux (Android, etc) Development?
Like that? I know that some other operating systems that run from Linux have been shown running on some of these Windows Mobile devices, but 90% of the Linux dev work is being done on Android. Perhaps this may be a good idea in the future if we see Ubuntu/etc development pick up, or do you think we need the change today?
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Ok, so just to be clear, you think that we ought to rename the device-specific Android forums for WinMo device (like Blackstone, Rhodium, etc) to include Linux? So instead of:
Touch HD Android Development
it would be:
Touch HD Linux (Android, etc) Development?
Like that? I know that some other operating systems that run from Linux have been shown running on some of these Windows Mobile devices, but 90% of the Linux dev work is being done on Android. Perhaps this may be a good idea in the future if we see Ubuntu/etc development pick up, or do you think we need the change today?
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Yes I would suggest to change the current subforum names to something like that. So that people know everything <device>-linux related can be posted there with any userspace they like. Still it is important to put android in the name because many people just look for android and don't know that it's based on linux. So the pattern you propose seems perfect.
I agree. Obviously most of the users want to run android userspace on their HTCs now and that's what the biggest part of the discussions seems to be about. Still I would change it in the proposed way already for two reasons.
With the current titles not only discussion about non-android userspace is excluded but also everything kernel related. And the kernel is very important. Of course also for android.
Also, people who want to develop non-android linux based stuff like ubuntu for HTCs might not be much attracted seeing a (seemingly) android-only forum. They will rather publish/discuss their stuff elsewhere because it might appear to them that only android related things can be released in the xda forums.
Thanks a lot for the attention payed to this!
Plz rename Android section to Linux?
Or give us a Ubuntu section like Andriod got its own (Still both Linux thou)
Im happy for all who want Android on there WM, BUT for me i have second to non intrest on getting it on my HD2, like WM 6.5.3 and NRG keeps making WM more and more perfect everyday (Love to NRG and...HOW The hell do you do it!=)
My intressts are fully on Ubuntu news and just plainly, talk about buggs and leave feedback and we are drowning in Andriod threads. And atm i feel there is no way to find peace and calm to engage people to this. Ubuntu or other Linux work could grow, given only a chance.
Anyway i hope this getts a solution since its trying my patience. So i agree totally with Dcordes, we need a change
I know this thread is a little old, but I think that changing the forum names to include linux in the title should be looked at again. In the HD2 Android Dev Forum there was a thread asking about porting meego to the HD2, and it got a quick response from a member saying "maybe when we have a meego dev forum" and continued to post responses against it, when there are several people interested in meego or maemo. Its all linux and the forum should be called HD2 Linux/Android Dev or something similar to avoid confusion.
I feel some of the users won't get it that *Device* Linux Section is the one which contains Anroid ! They might start asking for a seperate Android section again.
IMHO.
Any chance of porting Ubuntu to Cappy
Thistutorial show how to install Ubuntu on Nexus7
https ://wiki.ubuntu. com/Nexus7/Installation#Having_both_Android_and_Ubuntu_installed_for_dual_boot
How about we rather wait for the release of the Ubuntu Phone OS instead of trying to port the desktop version? Using tablet mode on our cappys is exhausting enough both for the phone and our fingers and eyes, not to tell how it would look with a desktop os I also think you missed the sub-forum.
OP this does not belong in the Development section, please read & respect the Forum Rules, (#15) Thank You.
Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but the development forums seem to be mainly for developing custom rom. If there is a better forum let me know. If you are a moderator and there is a better forum, please feel free to move this thread there.
Is there an application like Delphi ( actually I liked C++Builder myself, but they are mostly the same ) for Android?
I'm not talking about Pascal here, but an environment similar to Delphi.
XDA Development Android forums may be a better source .
jje
I think the closet you will get to that @ the moment is AIDE - Android Java IDE
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I think the closet you will get to that @ the moment is AIDE - Android Java IDE
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Yeah, I use AIDE and love it.
Grumble Grumble I am the troll under the bridge
http://www.redmondpie.com/odexed-vs-deodexed-the-difference-between-the-two-android-roms-explained/
ur first half has no relation wid second half and ur topic name has no relation wid post content
okay we do ask to search first... coz xda is not a noob feeding place...
can u explain why have u used the word TRUTH here??
Not sure of the point if this. Op, what are you trying to accomplish with this post?
If this is a post to complain about how the members treat new members, we have one.
If this is a post about the definitions of the slang used, we have one.
Ironic that you didn't use the search function first....
Im a noob when it comes to these things ...and even I know that bugging people for help without searching for the answer first is kind of annoying..that's just me tho..no dis to anyone
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Read the first line. The OP was sharing an article they found mentioning xda, and shared it, with an excerpt. Pretty straight forward to me...
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well that is a bit bad cuz even with new problems they don't even bother
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well that is a bit bad cuz even with new problems they don't even bother
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thats too generalized, aint it??
I find the best way to search xda is to use Google. Just type keywords or subject + xda = profit
We see you meow on our nexusâ´ can we haz some more?
Just sharing an article I found. YesXDA needs a better search engine. Other than that I am not saying anything. Just interesting to see XDA in the news... Kinda
Oh and you trolls need to learn to read. Nothing in that post were my own words, but you have proven the article right... Way to go troll
Until XDA gets a search feature that makes ya'll happy try googling these...
Code:
+root or unbrick similar:xda-developers.com
Or
Code:
Solved+ site:xda-developers.com
Replace with the name or model of the device you are working on.
Replace with the problem you are facing or are prematurely searching for; for those that think ahead
Replace " +root or unbrick " with "ROM" or "kernel" or "recovery" to quickly search XDA and "similar" sites
Note: that is the difference in having "similar:some.site.name.something" and having "site:same.as.before.***
There are plenty of one liners for google out there that makes finding the content you want easier. Such as searching for a file type or under a very specific address; like the forums related to the "epic 4g" like so
Code:
rom or recovery or stock epic 4g site:http://forum.xda-developers.com/
XDA and many of the other forums that I haunt or participate on yield better results using searches like the above but nothing beats having a human to ask, so when all else fails find a section that relates some what to your line of questioning and post it on someone else's thread (if it's active) or find a section of the forum structure that has a descent amount of old and new active threads and post a new thread with all the steps you already taken and where you want to go, then sit back and wait for help or better yet, continue looking for others that have already solved or done the action that you're wishing to take and use those results to "bump" your topic; usually one new post per day max so edit and time stamp the edits so readers that want to help see that you're doing what you can.
Hope this helps others from pulling out their hair in frustration
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Just sharing an article I found. YesXDA needs a better search engine. Other than that I am not saying anything. Just interesting to see XDA in the news... Kinda
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Oh and you trolls need to learn to read. Nothing in that post were my own words, but you have proven the article right... Way to go troll
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You need to learn the meaning of the word 'troll'. None of the people who answered you were trolls or trolling, especially given the fact that one was an RC and one a Mod. They were posting their opinions on the subject, which I happen to agree with. Searching is the key to using XDA properly and people should always search before posting (after all, it is forum rule number one). Usually if a person asks a question that has been answered before I'll post both the solution and a line asking them to search before posting in the future. I don't really know what you expected from this thread since you haven't posted it with any clear intentions and when people gave their opinions on the article you just disregarded them as being trolls. Yes, the search tool isn't very good but it usually functions well enough and when it doesn't Google almost certainly does.
Oh, and you might also want to fix the quoting in the OP. You've started it at a random place in the middle of a sentence while I'm sure you meant it at the start/end of one of the paragraphs.
grumble grumble troll under a bridge. Shall I pay a toll to cross?
I think the OP has mental issues.
Wonder if he knows.
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grumble grumble troll under a bridge. Shall I pay a toll to cross?
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Smh, so why exactly did you create this thread?
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I think the OP has mental issues.
Wonder if he knows.
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More likely is "once burned twice shy" as the web is full of forums that are hunting fields instead of developer Meadows. XDA has yet to show me anything but the most helpful people but misunderstood posts do happen.
And to mental issues; who doesn't? Last time I looked through the medical diagnosis of mental illness, just about anyone you meat can be convicted to an institution... Just have to document it and submit it in such a way that makes them appear to endanger themselves or others...
More than likely this interaction with strangers serves as some kind of emotional release or gratification. Some just like to stir.
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Grumble Grumble I am the troll under the bridge
http://www.redmondpie.com/odexed-vs-deodexed-the-difference-between-the-two-android-roms-explained/
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Ah, come on peoples where trying to help some now the first two pages make little sense. How'bout an edit that includes your statements quoted under or above relevant parts of the linked statements? Curate the web and good things will happen.
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