Hi all,
i own a SbkV2 TF101 (with Dock) and always found really really difficult to install Ubuntu on my little (and oldie !) tablet.
So i was thinking about a different flavour of linux. What about ArchLinux ? Debian ? LinuxMint ?
Why no threads, no one-click tool , no support for other flavor.
Ok, i understand that the kernel underlying linux is alway the same so, the drivers, once complete, should fit any distribution, but maybe there are distributions better than others for our tf101.
And, to be honest, i became so jealous about ubuntu 12.10 on Nexus7 (ok, it's tegra3 vs tegra2, but....)
Having a full, complete linux distribution working on our tablets could allow us to many real program (not android wannabe apps), like gimp, libreoffice, mail clients, and many, many others , improving productivity dramatically.
What do you think ? i'm a visionary and the real fact is that tf101 is dying ? boh any help would be appreciated !!!
TheMac
I would love to see Mint, puppy,or a few others on here as well. I tried looking into it but could never get any image to build correctly for flashing. I'd gladly test it out if its possible to flash directly from tablet, no laptop ATM.
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I just visited their site. None for tegra2
TheMac
i don't think this is a good place for asking that. this is not a DEV thread. Anyway, i already wrote something about this.
I have running debian in my transformer. But if you want another distro you should be able to do it. This is a good place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476835
The thread shaola mentioned is a good place to start.
Another good place to get started working with this without nuking your daily driver and messing with dualboot is to loopmount a img file on your internal storage as your root, but flash a kernel zip modified to do this and boot it up. I've been messing with it and it works pretty well.
Heres the link to the thread (again by shaola): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537566
You can pretty easily build an image for this kind of system. I'm working on getting an Arch image booting. I used the Arch for Arm project with a tegra2 image, and just stuck that in with the loopmount kernel. I imagine LinuxMint would be pretty easy since its ubuntu based and they share packages. So again shaola's thread is a great place to start. If I get the Arch image booting ill put it up.
@SHAOLA : Thanks ! Still hoping, anyway, for a one-click-like solution (i'm the laziest man with a degree in computer science :laugh: )
@JHOLTOM : Ok, i'll stay tuned . Thanks !
TheMac
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Hey so I have been wondering, I have seen lots of places that have it where you can flash between linux and android, but is there any real dual boot options?
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Hey so I have been wondering, I have seen lots of places that have it where you can flash between linux and android, but is there any real dual boot options?
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I think there is a thread in development by lilstevie that dual boots ubuntu and android.
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Yepp here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191141
I can't get it to work but you might be lucky
It works great. There are two ways of doing it, 1 with clockwork mod and the other with just nvflash and replacing the recovery. I'm currently running Prime 1.6r2 and Ubuntu. To boot ubuntu I have to do the steps to boot into recovery. So far everything runs great!
It's a little bit tricky to set up but when you got it it's a great enhancement of our little toys... I'have it installed and I have to admit performance is surprsingly good
I'm dual-booting Android/Ubuntu now, as well. It's very smooth and responsive. I'm still having issues connecting to WiFi, but it's still a WiP, so I can't complain. (I think it's because there's a single-quote in my network's SSID.)
Hi everyone!
I found yesterday a project really cool that brings Linux to your tablet in an easy way using the chroot method. They made an app for each distro and are available on Play Store for free.
I've installed Ubuntu Small on my tablet and I'm surprised because it runs without any lag. You can use Ubuntu, BackTrack and Debian distros for now and each distro are available as:
Core (the basic Ubuntu, no GUI and only 750MB when extracted)
Small * (includes LXDE Desktop, a few programs like Chromium Browser and is about 2GB when extracted)
Full (A lot of programs including LibreOffice and has Unity, 3.5GB when extracted)
* Recommended, runs better on this tablet.
To use it you have to access the linux using VNC, it's nice because you can also access from another computer on your network.
More details and where you can download the image here: [APPS] Linux-on-Android project (incorporating Ubuntu installer)
Here's Ubuntu 12.04 Small running on my tablet and on my Mac.
Hope you all enjoy it
can it run Chromium OS?
I don't know if Chromium OS has ARM support, if it does might be possible, but idk for sure.
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Does stock kernel has loop? I did everything according to instruction, but when i launch it says that loop device missing...
Forgot about busybox, problem solved.
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Does stock kernel has loop? I did everything according to instruction, but when i launch it says that loop device missing...
Forgot about busybox, problem solved.
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I was going to say that, yes the stock kernel has loop, you only need to install or update busybox.
Tried Backtrack v5, smooth as butter!
Does wifi work?
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Does wifi work?
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Yes, it does. And let me point out that you can easily switch to Android back again with no lag or whatsoever[Home button].
Wanted to ask, what for do you use ubuntu on tablet? It's great to be able to have it, but what's the point?
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Wanted to ask, what for do you use ubuntu on tablet? It's great to be able to have it, but what's the point?
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I don't know you but I like to explore what any of my devices can do, so run Linux on this tablet is a nice thing, I mean, if you want to try something new.
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I don't know you but I like to explore what any of my devices can do, so run Linux on this tablet is a nice thing, I mean, if you want to try something new.
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Yeah, it is interesting to try it out. http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android looks promising as well.
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Wanted to ask, what for do you use ubuntu on tablet? It's great to be able to have it, but what's the point?
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Well, for one you could use it if you're a dev on devices. You can also try cracking a few wifi hotspots with it(aircrack and etc.).
Full ubutu on P1000
Hi Guys, I've been trying the full ububtu version on the P1000.
I'm using CM9 RC1, and Ubuntu runs, but very slow.
I'll give a try to the small image.
Does anyone have any tips to make it run faster?
The full build runs slow even on Tab7+. Small is the best choice.
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I don't know you but I like to explore what any of my devices can do, so run Linux on this tablet is a nice thing, I mean, if you want to try something new.
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you do realise that android is the linux kernel with a set of runtimes on top. it has a shell and a fair smattering on linux commands already.
Yes, I know that, but it isn't the Linux itself, right? It has a lot of modifications just like you said.
Android is based on Linux, linux is the base of android .
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Hi.
First of all I want to thank to FMAranda for this effort.
Second, I need a little help. I have a Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" with cyanogenmod [email protected] (Android 4.2.1)
I think that the loop devices will come included with cyanogenmod, but the script says me that the loop device is missing. Do you know any other ROM I can use that include loop devices? Or how to enable it (noob guide)? Ideally with Android 4.2.1 because my kids use the tablet too
thanks
clemare
Linux is soooooooooo 1960s
originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs,
Don;t they teach you kids nothin in school??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
Running a 40 yo OS. .....LMAO>>>>>>
Hey everyone I was exploring the system files of my tablet and I found a file called core_cap_level located in /sys/kernel/tegra_cap. This file creates the clock cap at 1.2ghz. My question is could I edit this file to raise the cap to let's say 1.7ghz? If it's possible could it be done straight from the tablet?
Current file content: "1200(1200)" which i believe means 1.2ghz
file content edited: "1700(1700)" which would mean 1.7ghz
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No you need a custom kernel. if it was that easy it would have been done allready. I looked in the system too and found a bunch of files and scripts related to clock speed. Im not a dev so i dont know what they are for, but like i said if it was that easy it would have been done.
Some of the others are
/etc/cpu1.sh there are also cpu 2,3,4,5 .sh files
/sys/module/cpu_tegra and cpu_tegra3 directories have a bunch of files related to clock speed too
ive been looking into this, the kernel source i believe is available on asus website but I'm not sure if its compatible with the rom I'm using which is hydro rom, or compatible with say cm9 or aokp, theres not alot of information out there for new developers like myself. even if i did manage to download the source, modify it and compile it, how exactly would I integrate it, that I have no idea, I've always been a windows developer, when it comes to linux, things are all over the place, different builds, different hardware, different code, etc. its annoying at the same time as you can end up wasting alot of time trying to find the one thing you need to find, not alot of help out there either, if someone wants to work with me and has a little experience in dev then im sure we could solve this problem?
Ok well thanks for the replies guys and i also wan't to start up with linux/android developing but i'm also trying to learn myself. I have tried to create a kernel several times but I can never compile it correctly. Although I wasn't compiling from the source either so i wasn't able to increase the clock speeds. But it was a start.
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I'd think that once you find what needs to be edited/added in one kernel weather it be cm, aokp or stock it should be almost the same for the others. Im mean arent they all based on stock and then modified? Of course you might not be able to use a cm kernel with an aokp rom, but whatever kernel you choose to start with should look very close to the others outside of some optimizations.
Oh and charle you can only compile a kernel from source, or any other program for that matter!
O sorry well i was building from the source that asus has provided us with but i meant like from the ground up or is that even possible?
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Oh I misunderstood you, you said you didnt compile from the source. Yes you should be able to download the source code from asus and compile it
so whos up for an overclock project? Charles, what were you doing, describe your entire setup/processes you attempted to compile source, which source did you use, which tools, explain everything and we should try and make sense of it all, i want the tf300 up to 1.7ghz I think that would be quite stable and antutu is over 14000+
there is a kernel on prime forum so we can find out which part need to be modified, the hard part is which tools do we need, which compiler, how do we integrate this ??
maybe we can fix slow i/o for sql as well without disabling fsync
well im not completely familiar with linux this is my first attempt with it but this is not my first time developing ok well first off i was using ubuntu then I downloaded the source. I also used tools from the ndk. i first unziped everything pointed the stock-kernel to the ndk tools. Once i did that I used the make clean command which prept the kernel for compilation. Once that was done i was suppose to find the defconfig file in my kernel and run the following command in terminal "make unknown_defconig". this would configure the default configuration file but I didn't know which one to use so i pulled the config file from my tablet and i ran the command "make config" after that command i ran "make menuconfig" which opened a gui which allowed me to configure the kernel i believe? once i was finished with that i saved it and tried to compile it but i never succeeded. I know this i hard to follow, but i'm still learning myself so it's hard to explain.
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well im not completely familiar with linux this is my first attempt with it but this is not my first time developing ok well first off i was using ubuntu then I downloaded the source. I also used tools from the ndk. i first unziped everything pointed the stock-kernel to the ndk tools. Once i did that I used the make clean command which prept the kernel for compilation. Once that was done i was suppose to find the defconfig file in my kernel and run the following command in terminal "make unknown_defconig". this would configure the default configuration file but I didn't know which one to use so i pulled the config file from my tablet and i ran the command "make config" after that command i ran "make menuconfig" which opened a gui which allowed me to configure the kernel i believe? once i was finished with that i saved it and tried to compile it but i never succeeded. I know this i hard to follow, but i'm still learning myself so it's hard to explain.
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I'm going to mess about myself and follow your procedure charles see if I have any luck, if any dev could shed some light or chip in, much obliged, we want more power out of this beast! the TF300 has lots of potential
i will continue trying as well but im going to research a bit more before i start up again maybe im missing something. Let me know how it goes for you.
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Keep in mind if you overclock to 1.7 you also need to up the voltage.
I think the most we can get of the 1.2 is a max of 1.5 with out a new kernel.
Hey I know this isnt device specific but was just curious out of the devs using linux wat distro/version would you suggest for developement of roms. ive heard a lot use ubuntu but i know some of their newest versions are the greatest to use in this area.
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Hey I know this isnt device specific but was just curious out of the devs using linux wat distro/version would you suggest for developement of roms. ive heard a lot use ubuntu but i know some of their newest versions are the greatest to use in this area.
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I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 ...there is some crashes right of the bat but nothing big enough to cause any problems building.
Latest updates seem to fix most of the misc crashes...so I'm sticking to this.
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Hey I know this isnt device specific but was just curious out of the devs using linux wat distro/version would you suggest for developement of roms. ive heard a lot use ubuntu but i know some of their newest versions are the greatest to use in this area.
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I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 ...there is some crashes right of the bat but nothing big enough to cause any problems building.
Latest updates seem to fix most of the misc crashes...so I'm sticking to this.
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It's really a preference kind of thing. I have done builds on my Mac, yes kernel too.
A build server I use has ubuntu server installed. On my own build server I use debian unstable, but again, this is my preference. I like messing with experimental stuff
I know some people prefer fedora for their builds, others use OpenSUSE, archlinux, or centos. It's really what you are comfortable with.
Supposedly there is a variant of archlinux called bbqlinux, which is supposed to have install time helpers to install the android sdk parts automatically.
Ya I ended up following a tutorial and using Ubuntu 10.04. Just got aosp source all downloaded last nite haven't got a chance to fool with it quite yet spent a lot of time with Google since found out java6 no longer supported so after about 2 - 3 hours of trying find and install all the dependencies that were not existent now I get to learn what the hell I'm doing and hope not to screw up my phone too much lol.
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You should've followed the aosp tutorial more closely and installed ubuntu 12.04 instead... it's the most recent LTS version available.
Here is a guide you can trust (as with any other articles on xda-u), making sure you have ubuntu 12.04 64 BIT installed for most compatibility.
http://xda-university.com/as-a-developer/getting-started-building-android-from-source
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You should've followed the aosp tutorial more closely and installed ubuntu 12.04 instead... it's the most recent LTS version available.
Here is a guide you can trust (as with any other articles on xda-u), making sure you have ubuntu 12.04 64 BIT installed for most compatibility.
http://xda-university.com/as-a-developer/getting-started-building-android-from-source
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Ya I ended up going by this.
http://source.android.com/source/index.html
Last time I had installed Ubuntu I remember not being too thrilled about the new looks so thats more or less why I had chosen to go with 10.04. I'll take your advice though its been buggin me to make the upgrade and hey if I don't like it could always go back.
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I checked out that bbqlinux that Brian mentioned. Didn't do much yet but got it installed in a virtualbox last night and everything seems to be there like adb and the android SDK and java and all that stuff installed already. Pretty light weight, runs fine inside a VM with a few dedicated cores and a few GB of ram. Didn't play around much more though yet.
If you want something better than Ubuntu use Linux Mint w/Cinnamon. Its Ubuntu based but different. It does not use Unity so that's a plus.
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are somebody working to make ubuntu works on our tab ?
Mad4Red said:
are somebody working to make ubuntu works on our tab ?
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The Dev-Preview is not good for now (only pictures and not a working OS) and the "old" VNC methode is using the android kernel and makes no sense.
Me
Hello,
i'm working on porting ubuntu on our tablet, thanks to the linux kernel which is the same as in android for now.
Ubuntu touch use android kernel for the moment ( and a long one i think) to give ubuntu as many devices as they can.
The first release of my work will take a long time because my current computer is a f*** netbook and it take loooong time to make files...
Be patient, if you just want to see what ubuntu looks like on your tablet follow the steps of the ubuntu "DIY" it pretty simple.
Thanks to acer & NoThrills to their kernels :good:
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Can't wait !
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