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***9.8.13--85% off---->XtremeGuard FULL BODY Screen Protector<----***

Finally, Xtreme Guard has a full body screen protector for sale: front and back. I love these products for their high quality and cheap price! These are not the cheap Chinese dry application ones! These are wet application, which I think gives a way better result! I had one for my gs2 and n7, and they're awesome. I highly recommend. And according to the photos, it covers the complete screen on the front including the curved edges because its a wet application. US seller with fast shipping. Here's the link from their website:
http://www.xtremeguard.com/LG-Googl...-4-screen-protector.htm?CartID=1#.UKuFT4fBEuA
UPDATE (4/10): Promo 80ff with any orders
UPDATE (3/02): Promo 75off with any orders
UPDATE (2/13): Promo 77off2 with orders of two or more.
UPDATE (1/11): Promo 70off with any order, no minimum.
UPDATE (12/17): New promotion for 82% off two or more protectors with 82off2.
UPDATE: 80off3 is working as a coupon code again!
UPDATE: Black Friday coupon code 70OFF1 still works for one or more than one. Comes to one for $3 or 2 for $6 and so on. Still a great deal.
UPDATE: (9/8) 85% OFF with promo code labor85 with the purchase of two or more from their website.
VIDEO REVIEW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ-HxMUYnG8
EXPIRED: (If you buy two or more, the cost is much cheaper than eBay: use promo 75off2 (for 2 or more) or 80off3 (for 3 or more))
(Comes to $6 for three full body or $5 for two full body)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XtremeGuard...083772?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a450677c
And for just the front screen protector: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XtremeG...672160?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35c1cc82a0
(ONLY buy from eBay if you want one for $4, but his website is a much better deal)

I used this for my Gnex and it was Okay,
thinking of canceling my BSE and order this..

How reliable are these? Thinking of ordering one. Whats the quality like?
Anyone that has used these before can tell me?
Thanks

GoreTan said:
How reliable are these? Thinking of ordering one. Whats the quality like?
Anyone that has used these before can tell me?
Thanks
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The one on my Gnex is pretty much the same as in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNHPuYnG2g
Though I don't have any black dust on mine.
With this price and NO ORANGE peel at all, I just ordered one and sent email to cancel my BSE

They are very tough and high quality screen protectors. They are very smooth to use on the screen and protect it well. You won't be disappointed.

i canceled my BSE one and ordered this one. i hope its good.

just ordered mine.
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why it is so cheap?
Why it is only 3.99$ ? I checked on their website, it is around 15$ for Full Body package.

hern1989 said:
i canceled my BSE one and ordered this one. i hope its good.
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This might sound stupid, but how do you cancel your BSE order? I tried to view the order info but it asks for a login, which i never made.

I used these on my Sensation, they were really good, ordered 3 and only used 1,
Don't order from Ebay get it directly from their website xtremeguard.com
I found a 80% off when you order 3 code. (80off3)
so that $6 for 3 full body protectors.

+1
Just bought this, hopefully it comes in by Friday. I love the feeling of the glass on the Nexus 4, so I don't want a thick or obscuring screen protector. At $3.99, I can't loose much =D

Or 75OFF2 and order 2 for $5

Fouad1013 said:
This might sound stupid, but how do you cancel your BSE order? I tried to view the order info but it asks for a login, which i never made.
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Actually same to me I didn't have an account,
I just use contact us and ask them to cancel

theexel said:
Or 75OFF2 and order 2 for $5
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Thanks! 2 for $5 and I didn't even have to pay shipping.
Hope the cut out will be better than it was for the Gnex, which was OK...

Emama said:
Actually same to me I didn't have an account,
I just use contact us and ask them to cancel
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Thanks I emailed them a few hours ago but it was already after business hours I hope the cancel it and not ship it.
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Just ordered two using the 75OFF2 coupon, thanks for that! 2 full body for $5
Hopefully these work well. They seem to have decent reviews...

Xtream Guard protections are really nice, with nice touch feeling, maybe a little glossy.
But their logistics is terribke, they ALWAYS make mistakes in order preparation.
Fortunately, their customer service is very reactive and understanding. I think I'll order a couple of those.
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thanks! Cancelled my BSE and got 2 for $5!

phixional said:
I used these on my Sensation, they were really good, ordered 3 and only used 1,
Don't order from Ebay get it directly from their website xtremeguard.com
I found a 80% off when you order 3 code. (80off3)
so that $6 for 3 full body protectors.
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Or 75OFF2 and order 2 for $5
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Thanks guys for the promo codes on his website! I updated the OP.

FWIW -- got this for the N7 and they are great .. have ordered for the N4 but for now will prolly only use the back just to reduce the 'slide effect'

Kays Cases

Has anyone tried one of these? They look good and not so expensive
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Cove...8&qid=1353903169&sr=8-6&keywords=nexus+4+case

they jacked up the price before I could preorder so I just got an S case from china from ebay.

ptrm2 said:
they jacked up the price before I could preorder so I just got an S case from china from ebay.
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That got me so mad! It doesn't even look like it's worth $13.00 -_-
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I ordered it from amazon and it should be here soon. I'll update with impressions and pics of it on the device when it shows up.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
That got me so mad! It doesn't even look like it's worth $13.00 -_-
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I agree, it looks kind of cheap looking for $13 price tag. I hope Google gets off its ass and start making these Bumpers available. They also need to start contacting companies to get some cases on the market. If they are going to keep running out of Bumpers and we have very limited options, they BETTER expect lots of cracked Nexus 4's coming back to their replacement warehouse. There is no reason for a company like this to have such a poor E-Commerce practice. It's absolutely ridiculous.

shadymouse said:
I agree, it looks kind of cheap looking for $13 price tag. I hope Google gets off its ass and start making these Bumpers available. They also need to start contacting companies to get some cases on the market. If they are going to keep running out of Bumpers and we have very limited options, they BETTER expect lots of cracked Nexus 4's coming back to their replacement warehouse. There is no reason for a company like this to have such a poor E-Commerce practice. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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Now $9.99.
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Cover-Google-Nexus-Smoked/dp/B009ZNBHBY/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1353903169&sr=8-6&keywords=nexus+4+case

donec said:
Now $9.99.
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Cover-Google-Nexus-Smoked/dp/B009ZNBHBY/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1353903169&sr=8-6&keywords=nexus+4+case
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+$3.98 shipping for me... booooooo

I haven't gotten the clear case I ordered yet from them, but I can vouch for their customer service.
I preordered the clear case and received a package from them late last week. It had an S case in it.
The clear cases have taken a little longer to manufacture, so they sent me a free S case to make sure my phone is protected until the clear case is in stock.
Note: I ordered the clear case, not the smoked clear. Looks like they took the clear option off of Amazon temporarily.

Yea I ordered it Friday I think its shipping today I'll post some pics when I get it ...didn't notice the back saying Kay's case till after Lol :/
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Razer(x) said:
Has anyone tried one of these? They look good and not so expensive
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Cove...8&qid=1353903169&sr=8-6&keywords=nexus+4+case
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I have their S- line type case on my nexus 4 right now, I know it isn't the same case, but very similar. TBO it looks like the same one that is selling on Ebay from China for less.
I considered buying one off Ebay, but glad I didn't because they sent me a black case when I ordered a clear one. I messaged them and they are sending me the clear one I ordered free of charge. I know it is rare to have an issue like I did, but it is nice to know they have good customer
service.
Here's a link to the one I ordered:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A72UR7M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

what a crock.
i received my kay case:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZNBI2M/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
and it was identical to iblason:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009Y0ZZD4/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
I mean identical in every way. Even the insert they gave. Both are unbranded black cases.
Do not buy this case thinking it might be an alternative to the iblason.
IDENTICAL

I am looking for a clear shield just for the back. Can anyone suggest anything?
sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my shiny new Nexus 4!

i bought one of these in black. not bad. i dont really like the way the official bumper fits on the phone so this will do until a nicer tpu one comes out.

Got mine yesterday. I like it but it peels up the corners of my Xtremeguard protector. I'm gonna try a thinner protector with it.

UK!!! Screen protectors.

Hi everyone.
Almost every other post about screen protectors seems to be for the USA.
What actual options do we have here in the UK?
(most interested in full body)
Please do not merge this with the "master list" as that list is not relevant to us.

Sorry, what?

I've order mine from bestskinsever.com for two sets for under £11 including delivery

Anybody found any decent, reasonably priced ones?
Ordered the pack of 6 from Germany on ebay and they are god awful, guess you get what you pay for!
Would prefer dry application ones

all the one's on amazon either have no reviews or one star reviews so i also dont know what to get, £11 seems a lot aswell
i was hoping to get a pack of ten cos i mess loads up

ZippCen said:
I've order mine from bestskinsever.com for two sets for under £11 including delivery
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I use the same. Best ones out there. If applied properly they last forever and don't get marked like normal ones. They don't get scratched.

I'll let you know when my XtremeGuard arrives from wherever they ship from ... $8.37 shipped to the UK for 2 for the N4 and 2 for the N7.

hunnymonster said:
I'll let you know when my XtremeGuard arrives from wherever they ship from ... $8.37 shipped to the UK for 2 for the N4 and 2 for the N7.
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Just got mine from xtremeguard shipped from USA. Arrived within 8 days (quicker than the phone did!). It seems very good, although no matter whether wet or dry I am crap at applying protectors.
If LG hadn't put stupid power and volume icons on factory cover I would have been tempted to leave that on for a while.
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dogwoofer said:
Anybody found any decent, reasonably priced ones?
Ordered the pack of 6 from Germany on ebay and they are god awful, guess you get what you pay for!
Would prefer dry application ones
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I ordered them too! Once on, the feel of them us great, but they are just too damn thin, and I get an unbelievable amount of bubbles under them!
Burned through 3 already and had no luck in getting them perfectly on
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wilfmoralee said:
Just got mine from xtremeguard shipped from USA. Arrived within 8 days (quicker than the phone did!). It seems very good, although no matter whether wet or dry I am crap at applying protectors.
If LG hadn't put stupid power and volume icons on factory cover I would have been tempted to leave that on for a while.
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Good to know... I'm a whizz at applying them
I've done that... Left the screen protector on for now.

I bought the full body shield guard from Amazon for £6.99 (the wet apply one) and that's great! Lasts a lot longer than the cheaper alternatives
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samwebbo1990 said:
I bought the full body shield guard from Amazon for £6.99 (the wet apply one) and that's great! Lasts a lot longer than the cheaper alternatives
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Where did you get them from, a link would be very helpful

Hereisphilly said:
I ordered them too! Once on, the feel of them us great, but they are just too damn thin, and I get an unbelievable amount of bubbles under them!
Burned through 3 already and had no luck in getting them perfectly on
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Haha I didn't have high hopes when I saw they came attatched to a bit of paper, going to stick with the factory protector for now. Just want to get some standard dry apply protectors, don't really want to faff about

dogwoofer said:
Anybody found any decent, reasonably priced ones?
Ordered the pack of 6 from Germany on ebay and they are god awful, guess you get what you pay for!
Would prefer dry application ones
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Hereisphilly said:
I ordered them too! Once on, the feel of them us great, but they are just too damn thin, and I get an unbelievable amount of bubbles under them!
Burned through 3 already and had no luck in getting them perfectly on
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Yup - I think I ordered the same ones here. Took one look at them and threw them out.
Interested in finding some good accessories while I'm still here in the UK, too.

Joey-UK said:
Where did you get them from, a link would be very helpful
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I think he's on about this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ABQMOI4/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Review of G Google Nexus 4 FULL BODY SHIELD Invisible Screen Protector Front + Back
I ordered the same.
Pros:
* It fits perfectly fine.
* Looks sturdy.
* Application was easy.
Cons:
* Not smooth for sure. rubbery feel is reducing the feel f the phone.
* Back glass doen't look as glorious as it could be.
* Considering the cost they could send a spray to make the application process easier.
I hope its helpful.

I've used Best Skins Ever in the past and they're good as far as wet application SPs go, reasonably priced and quick delivery from the US...
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-4-skin

porkchopbolt said:
I think he's on about this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ABQMOI4/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Yep that's the one, thanks for the link
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Guys I wonder if you can help, I need a protector that covers the whole screen, the two ive tried are approximately 5mm to narrow (same as the factory fitted protector) I take it the reason being its because of the curved screen, the protector would lift, if cut to the edge.
Does anyone know of such a protector that allows for the edge curve and fits perfectly?
Thanks

Carnoustie said:
Guys I wonder if you can help, I need a protector that covers the whole screen, the two ive tried are approximately 5mm to narrow (same as the factory fitted protector) I take it the reason being its because of the curved screen, the protector would lift, if cut to the edge.
Does anyone know of such a protector that allows for the edge curve and fits perfectly?
Thanks
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I'm wondering about that too, so far the screen protectors I've seen don't cater towards the rounded edges of the screen. Instead the tend to leave a blunt cut just before the screen curves.
I personally don't like those either. I was looking at Martin Fields protector as I had one on my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 7 and both worked fine. I am worried about the protector lifting though

Diztronic soft TPU case review

Hey guys,
So I got my stuff from Diztronic and I am amazed. I dig it..and the reason why is because it found a great market : cheap bastards like me that hate paying more than 15 bucks but still want high quality
Check the video!
http://youtu.be/LN8HEFFZgTc
Also...I smell a giveaway coming VERY soon

Good review, but should be merged with ploone's vid review as well. He did his review a week or so ago. I think there's also a third one as well not a vid review, more of a photo review.

I think I might buy the Black one. Looks impressive.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diztronic...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3cccffcd5f

MSI Afterburner said:
I think I might buy the Black one. Looks impressive.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diztronic...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3cccffcd5f
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It honestly is. Specially for the price. FYI I'm doing a giveaway soon and post it here for you guys .
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kpjimmy said:
Good review, but should be merged with ploone's vid review as well. He did his review a week or so ago. I think there's also a third one as well not a vid review, more of a photo review.
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Thank you ! Reason I make an independent thread is cause I don't like just getting into someone's opinion and as a user sometimes opinions differ to and it can start arguments .
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rault18 said:
It honestly is. Specially for the price. FYI I'm doing a giveaway soon and post it here for you guys .
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That would be great if you do. I'm personally going to pay for it in eBay though, as it would be very cheap of me not to for something of that quality.

MSI Afterburner said:
That would be great if you do. I'm personally going to pay for it in eBay though, as it would be very cheap of me not to for something of that quality.
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You might want to consider ordering it directly from Diztronic's site and using coupon code XDA to get 10% off.

formicae said:
You might want to consider ordering it directly from Diztronic's site and using coupon code XDA to get 10% off.
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Do they ship to United Kingdom? If so, I might be interested if the price is lower than my eBay link.

MSI Afterburner said:
Do they ship to United Kingdom? If so, I might be interested if the price is lower than my eBay link.
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Yes, if you order via their website, they will ship to the UK.
paulbadassbriant said:
I've just ordered one from their site, and im in the UK, the shipping cost is great too, use the XDA code
1 x Diztronic Matte Back Black TPU Case for LG Nexus 4 (NEX4-DM-BLK) $12.50
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Sub-Total: $12.50
USPS First Class Mail (2-5 day domestic, 7-30 day intl): $2.50
Discount Coupon: XDA : -$1.25
Total: $13.75
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Explore3 said:
Yes, if you order via their website, they will ship to the UK.
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Nice .didn't know it would be that cheap
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Are u still going to be giving the case away?
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otariq said:
Are u still going to be giving the case away?
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not just this case...BUT more than one keeping it a surprise for Y'all ...

Carls Jr said:
I really wish we had more TPU case options
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yes and no...I mean there are other fellas there selling tpu but are very low quality. I believe DIZ found a good balance between price and quality . I wish there were more tpu options as good as this one

rault18 said:
Hey guys,
So I got my stuff from Diztronic and I am amazed. I dig it..and the reason why is because it found a great market : cheap bastards like me that hate paying more than 15 bucks but still want high quality
Check the video!
http://youtu.be/LN8HEFFZgTc
Also...I smell a giveaway coming VERY soon
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Guess I am gonna buy one of these due to price/quality :good:

drk_x said:
Guess I am gonna buy one of these due to price/quality :good:
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honestly you cant go wrong. On the cheap cases side ill stick with disztronic cruzerlite and rearth . them 3 do some good inexpensive cases

AW: Diztronic soft TPU case review
Thanks for the review. Case lools really great. I will order one. Actually i had a TPU case from mumbi at Amazon. But the case looks not so good.
..... from my Nexus 4 .....

Honestly, I'm not sure why this case is not more popular. As far as TPU cases go this is the one of the better(if not the best) case I've seen. The inside has a felt like material that protects/cushions the phone back(the glass part ). Its similar to the new Body Glove case but its a bit sleeker and better looking(no stormtrooper look here). High quality design and materials. Bump for a great product. Great price too.
Also has anyone used this case with the Orb? Any issues with charging with the case on?

My favorite case, also purchased the mybat case, but prefer the diztronic. Provides enough protection and good grip.

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You might want to consider ordering it directly from Diztronic's site and using coupon code XDA to get 10% off.
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I was just about to checkout and saw there was a discount code field, after a quick Google search for a code, this thread popped up with your post. I saved ~$1.95, not much, but it adds up over time!

I had one of these for my Galaxy Nexus and loved it. I just got one for my Nexus 4 and was a little disappointed. The on/off and volume buttons seem to need a little harder push than it did when naked or with the bumper case that came with it. On a good note, the Zens charger I got today seems to work just fine with the case on. I will find out how well tonight when I charge it.
One more thing, the data/charging cable I use in my car that worked fine on the Gnex, does not work in the Nexus 4 case as the cut out is two small. I can swap out the cable with a thinner one so that's no big deal.

SGP Slim Armor View

I just happen to be on their site and saw this case, looks pretty slick! But the price is kinda steep. I might wait till it drops also if they get it in black.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/samsung/galaxy-s4-cases/galaxy-s4-case-slim-armor-view.html

Wow that looks really nice. I agree though the price is pretty steep although the OEM S View battery door cover is quite expensive as well.
jax5ter said:
I just happen to be on their site and saw this case, looks pretty slick! But the price is kinda steep. I might wait till it drops also if they get it in black.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/samsung/galaxy-s4-cases/galaxy-s4-case-slim-armor-view.html
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Buying one as soon as the UK store has them

Love the look of the case, currently have the originl sview case but I might still order one of these. Btw amazon shows them as in stock now while spigen says available end of june

bayniner said:
Love the look of the case, currently have the originl sview case but I might still order one of these. Btw amazon shows them as in stock now while spigen says available end of june
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White one is available now. Black on is available at end of June.

man, i wish i knew this was comming. I would have waiting on my slimARMOR case and bought this instead.....wonders if I could return it?

DKYang said:
White one is available now. Black on is available at end of June.
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Are you sure? I seen the listing on Amazon, but all the reviews sound like its just the slim armor, not the view.

FLASHnox said:
Are you sure? I seen the listing on Amazon, but all the reviews sound like its just the slim armor, not the view.
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looks like both the case & the view case are listed together. There is a preorder for the black one amazon. I WANT ONE!!!!

cogcaviz24 said:
looks like both the case & the view case are listed together. There is a preorder for the black one amazon. I WANT ONE!!!!
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Oh alright then. Now I just need to find $10 more dollars! Will post pics when I get it.

Just ordered the Black one. Will post picture when I get it!

Looks good
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Ordered with 1-3 day shipping, it was only $6 though? Wonder if I will actually get it within that time.

FLASHnox said:
Ordered with 1-3 day shipping, it was only $6 though? Wonder if I will actually get it within that time.
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what are you talking about? did you have a coupon? even amazon is showing a $50 price tag
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wait did you mean shipping was only $6? lol

Lol I think he meant shipping.
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jax5ter said:
what are you talking about? did you have a coupon? even amazon is showing a $50 price tag
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wait did you mean shipping was only $6? lol
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Haha yeah, I thought somebody would get mixed up, I should have edited it. I'm just surprised because shipping is usually expensive were I live no matter the weight of the item.

Same thing. I ordered mine with 1-3 days shipping. Estimated delivery time is between Tuesday and Thursday. I usually get stuff from SGP quick so I'm thinking I'll get it Monday or Tuesday
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Really cool looking. I've never tried a flip cover. I know no one has used this particular one yet, but how are these flip type cases to use? Is it odd to use the phone with the cover open?

quite a descent one and definitely would love to have this .. just going to check out its specs and prices through different online stores to see where is the availability of the same under reasonable cost to pay.. thanks to share..

will it be available in any other colors ??
this is a really good case
Also can any one suggest if a bigger battery can be accommodated in this case ???

trmiv said:
Really cool looking. I've never tried a flip cover. I know no one has used this particular one yet, but how are these flip type cases to use? Is it odd to use the phone with the cover open?
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You can fold the flip cover to the back of the phone. You don't need to necessary leave it hanging when using the phone.
I'll be getting the white one next week and got the cheap expedited shipping like some people did here. Looking forward to getting this case. Seems to have everything that I wanted.