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[Q] Kernel questions

Hi,
I had a few questions about kernels...hope someone can help me in answering these...
I am thinking of trying out the Netarchy kernel on my Nexus S, but i was just wondering is there anywhere I can download the stock kernel (so that if anything does go wrong i dont have to do a full nandroid restore?)
Also, when installing a new kernel does that wipe data (of course I will make a backup etc before installing it, but should all my settings and apps etc remain intact normally?)
what impact does an OTA update have if i am running a non stock kernel? so say i am using Netarchy's kernel, and google releases a new OTA update...will i still be able to install the update? If i do, will it revert to stock kernel?
Thanks in advance,

brownmonkey said:
Hi,
I had a few questions about kernels...hope someone can help me in answering these...
I am thinking of trying out the Netarchy kernel on my Nexus S, but i was just wondering is there anywhere I can download the stock kernel (so that if anything does go wrong i dont have to do a full nandroid restore?)
Also, when installing a new kernel does that wipe data (of course I will make a backup etc before installing it, but should all my settings and apps etc remain intact normally?)
what impact does an OTA update have if i am running a non stock kernel? so say i am using Netarchy's kernel, and google releases a new OTA update...will i still be able to install the update? If i do, will it revert to stock kernel?
Thanks in advance,
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I'm not aware of anywhere that the stock kernel is available for download so doing a NANDroid backup is really your best option. If you have anything that deviates from stock (kernel, rom, theme, even just deleted stock apps) it will prevent you from being able to successfully update from an OTA.
You can find a lot of information about all the available kernels here just scroll down to the third post and you'll find the info.
Finally, just as a note of personal opinion, getting OTA updates is a little overrated. If you run a custom ROM, the OTAs will be included in those ROMs eventually so you won't have to worry about restoring a stock ROM just to get the updates.

kenvan19 said:
I'm not aware of anywhere that the stock kernel is available for download so doing a NANDroid backup is really your best option. If you have anything that deviates from stock (kernel, rom, theme, even just deleted stock apps) it will prevent you from being able to successfully update from an OTA.
You can find a lot of information about all the available kernels here just scroll down to the third post and you'll find the info.
Finally, just as a note of personal opinion, getting OTA updates is a little overrated. If you run a custom ROM, the OTAs will be included in those ROMs eventually so you won't have to worry about restoring a stock ROM just to get the updates.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I had read that post before (it was actually how i came to discover kernels ). The reason why I was asking about the OTA is because I actually use the stock ROM but was just thinking about trying out the Netarchy kernel just to see what its all about. Hence if there is an OTA update, and i am running a different kernel to the stock, is the only way for me to incorporate the update by flashing the new stock rom and then reinstall the netarchy kernel?
Also, if i install it, do you know if it wipes data/apps?
Thanks

brownmonkey said:
Thanks for the quick answer. I had read that post before (it was actually how i came to discover kernels ). The reason why I was asking about the OTA is because I actually use the stock ROM but was just thinking about trying out the Netarchy kernel just to see what its all about. Hence if there is an OTA update, and i am running a different kernel to the stock, is the only way for me to incorporate the update by flashing the new stock rom and then reinstall the netarchy kernel?
Also, if i install it, do you know if it wipes data/apps?
Thanks
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I apologize as I forgot to mention that part of your question, I'm sick with the flu and a little out of it on some cold medications lol. You only lose data and apps when flashing if you wipe the /data partition in mounts and storage and this is not required nor is it recommended when flashing a kernel. Sorry for answering out of order, but I thought I should clear that up first. As to the other question, you have it correct; you would need to flash the new update ROM and then flashing a new kernel.
I should also note that whenever you install a new ROM, you will need to reflash a custom kernel. This is because the vast majority of ROMs released include a kernel and when you flash them it will overwrite whatever kernel you currently have.
Finally, if you have any other questions you can always feel free to post them on that thread. I'm the one who wrote it and I check it often to try and answer questions as best and as quickly as I can. Happy flashing!

Are you using a custom ROM? Flashing CM7 has the stock kernel. There are probably other ones out there that includes stock kernel with them such as OTA.

[Q] What Would YOU Do

Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??

I am pretty much in the same situation.
Bought the NS last Saturday but still far from home (and so having time to evaluate whether to root or not).
Meanwhile you can easily update to 2.3.4 going to the proper menu.

If you are new to Android it might be a good idea to just use it as is for a while. Get used to how everything works and where everything is.
Once you have a good understanding of how to use the OS you can then venture out and flash custom roms and since you've used stock Android you'll be able to spot the changes people have made and appreciate the new functionalities more.
If you are coming from iPhone a lot of the things that you can do only with jail breaking can be done out of the box on Android. You can customise your phone a lot without rooting or flashing a custom rom. One example which comes to mind is the transitions between home screens. On Android switching to any of the popular homescreen replacements (LauncherPro or ADW) will allow you to have many different transition styles.
When using Android you just have to keep in mind that practically everything is customisable. If you really want to you can change individual graphics in the OS. Anyway, congratulations on your new purchase, I do hope you enjoy it and welcome to Android!

ttcrew said:
Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??
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I was in you shoes a few months ago, Nexus S was my first ever android device, i was on stock for 2 days then flash cyanogenmod.
In short, do everything you said xD. The differences between custom and stock ROMS are HUGE, especially in Cyanogen Mod

I would update to the latest official Nexus S firmware first (to get the latest radio, etc): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
Then unlock the bootloader, flash latest cwm recovery, nandroid backup, flash the latest CM7 nightly, flash latest gapps, then reboot.
Enjoy your new Nexus S with CyanogenMOD 7.
All this can be done without fully booting up your Nexus S.
PS: (KB3 is not the latest radio, KD1 is)

I'm just going to say that I was on stock unrooted Android 2.2 HTC Evo for 4 months before I ever rooted and flashed Cyanogenmod 6. And I'm really glad I had that time. I appreciated the customizations so much, and really understood why they were a big deal.
I've moved to the Nexus now and had it for a month. I'm back to stock for a while and loving it. Not sure if I will root or flash CM again. Its just not as necessary in the Nexus. Its possible to have a great Android experience without it. Not so true on other phones.
Anyways, I agree that you should run stock for a while until you are feeling really comfortable with all the nuances of the OS.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

If you want to the rooted/custom rom route straight away might I suggest you give miui a go. It is quite possibly one of the most customised and visually polished Android roms available.

ttcrew said:
Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??
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The phone stock is very nice, so you might not have to jump into flashing ROMS ATM. Rooting though gives you alot of options. One being is for titanium backup.
Best backup app on the market IMHO. Android at default lacks a way to backup app data. Say u drop your phone get a replacement and now all the angry birds levels you beat are gone.

nxt said:
I would update to the latest official Nexus S firmware first (to get the latest radio, etc): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
Then unlock the bootloader, flash latest cwm recovery, nandroid backup, flash the latest CM7 nightly, flash latest gapps, then reboot.
Enjoy your new Nexus S with CyanogenMOD 7.
All this can be done without fully booting up your Nexus S.
PS: (KB3 is not the latest radio, KD1 is)
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Hey - Thanks for the info!! You mention that KD1 is the latest radio, but I've read that KD1 still suffers from the speed capping issues and that KB3 is the radio to use if you want full speed 3G connections over AT&Ts cell network.

BrianDigital said:
The phone stock is very nice, so you might not have to jump into flashing ROMS ATM. Rooting though gives you alot of options. One being is for titanium backup.
Best backup app on the market IMHO. Android at default lacks a way to backup app data. Say u drop your phone get a replacement and now all the angry birds levels you beat are gone.
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Thanks for the feedback - is it your contention that Titanium Backup is better than some of the other backup methodologies ... i.e. Nandroid?

ttcrew said:
Thanks for the feedback - is it your contention that Titanium Backup is better than some of the other backup methodologies ... i.e. Nandroid?
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Titanium Backup is the best for backing up all your apps and system settings, nothing compares ie. installs busybox for you, can sync to dropbox and etc. Look for your self its saved me plenty of time and reconfiguring a lot. But you need to be carefully with it if going from Stock ROM to Custom. As for a nandroid backup, that is a backup of your entire ROM from the phone. Its a function in Clockwork Recovery.

Where is my 2.3.4?!
guildamx said:
Meanwhile you can easily update to 2.3.4 going to the proper menu.
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I feel like I'm missing out on a secret menu, my nexus has yet to update! Not sure why.. I thought it was due to my carrier. But if the NS is pure google experience that shouldn't impede my update. N1 users have their update! Where is mine!

Flash SuperAosp! Such a tasty rom.. Makes my phone feel so satisfyingly fast

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!!
Here's what I decided to do...
I got my phone, immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted (installed Clockwork Recovery).
Once rooted, I installed the KB3 radio (immediately see speed improvements - went from .51Mbps Down, and .14Mbps Up to 2.10Mbps Down and 1.12 Mbps up - equivalent if not better than what I was getting on my iPhone).
I think I'll take the majority of the advice I got on here and stick with the stock ROM for now - that's why we bought Vanilla Google, right? I'll play with that for a while and get familiar then go for a custom ROM.
Thanks again everybody...you guys were really helpful and welcoming to an Android N00b!!

[Q] Clean Rom

Hello everyone,
What exactly does Clean Rom do? How is it different from what comes with the phone stock? Will Clean Rom mess with the updates that are pushed to our phones? Any big differences between layout?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just not familiar with modifying my phone.

Must read more. Spend as much time as you can reading in the dev section. Clean ROM removes all of the ATT bloat and adds functionality like the FM radio and remapping the 3 dot menu button that takes up screen real-estate to the recent apps softkey. The recent apps can be accessed by holding down the home button, like we're familiar with. It also has performance and battery tweaks (says so in the changelog, haven't been using it long enough to notice). I flashed it the day before yesterday and I'm liking it.
Sent from my HTC One X

Clean Rom doesn't use profane language, think of it as the Will Smith of Roms...
Sent from my HOX running WCX

Did you bother to go to the Development forum, and read the CleanROM threads? They very well describe the features of each version of CleanROM.
You don't ever want to install an OTA update once on a custom ROM. It won't be compatible. Either it won't install, or it will remove root, or it will totally bork the system. The devs typically keep their ROM updated to the newest firmware base, and often long before the OTAs go out. So there is virtually never a benefit to updating via OTA (even if it did work).

Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
To the OP, if you want to flash custom, just do it. Spend a few days on Clean, try out Smokin's ROM, too. Just find something you like. Worst that can happen is you RUU back to stock.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

SoberGuy said:
Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
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Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.

redpoint73 said:
Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
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I don't think att can see your on a custom ROM, it has to do with if the developer is able to include that ability or not.

Thank you for the replies!
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone? Any disadvantages of using Clean Rom?
I'm just curious about how it works because I tried jailbreaking my iPhone and that made it very crash prone. It's a bad example but it's the reason why I never tried using custom software again but I'm interested in giving this a try. I only get about 2 hours screen time and about 12 hours of screen off time for my phone to die.
I did the HTC battery test and my phone went down to 92% so I'm pretty sure it's not the battery that's wrong with the phone.

RPTheLefty said:
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone?
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It appears you need to do more reading to get a better understanding or root, ROMs, etc.
Root is just a change of permissions on your phone. It allows the user and apps access to system files that are normally restricted. Nothing more, nothing less.
Clean ROM (or installation of any custom ROM) is a total replacement of the firmware or operating system of the phone (also called a "ROM"). Clean ROM in particular is mostly based on the latest stock firmware version, but cleaned up to remove bloat, optimizations to make it faster and smoother, and some cool added features. There are 3 different versions of CleanROM. Just read the threads for each version to learn the differences.
I don't really keep up with iPhone stuff. But my understanding is that jailbreaking adds functionality, but makes the system less stable.
Whether a custom ROM on Android makes the phone more or less stable depends on the ROM. Some are ported from other phones, to give new UI look or functions, but can be a bit buggy at first. But any good ROM will be stable once it reaches "maturity" and the bugs are worked out. They can be very stable, and even more stable and smoother than the stock ROM. Which is one of the points of running a custom ROM.
CleanROM in particular is based on stock firmware, just cleaned up. So its very stable. Just as stable as stock, a bit smoother in some places, and with some awesome added features. Any disadvantages? Not really. But you need to unlock the bootloader to install any custom ROM, which voids the warranty. nd flashing anything to the phone has the risk of damage if you don't follow the instructions properly. Thats the only downsides I can think of (for any custom ROM, not just for CleanROM).

Redpoint had an excellent summary.
If you're looking for battery life improvement, there are significant advantages to a custom ROM. Some will allow you to adjust the clock rate for the processors. So you can turn the up a bit (overclock) to get incredible performance, or you can turn them down a bit (underclock) to get better battery life.
If that's your main goal, I personally suggest Sick Sense from Smokingl337. He has incorporated this into his ROM, and the reports I've seen have been positive. I had used his ROM before, and I did like it. The day I flashed CleanROM due to a minor bug, Smokinl337 updated his ROM to fix that bug. Figures! But I'll be going back to Sick Sense pretty soon, I'm sure.
Hopefully you can find something that works for you.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Different kernel or different radio may also help battery life.
But you need to root, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader to do any of these things (including flashing custom ROMs). So head over to Development and start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237

There is also a clean rom developers edition that takes out most of the HTC sense... there is the cm9 alpha 4 rom that seems very stable...
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

OP, I was in your shoes last week. New to android/roms etc. I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and flashed Clean Rom. Just follow the instructions in the associated threads and you'll be fine.

[Q] Phone application force closes after finishing a call...

Hello, all.
I have a T-Mobile Blaze 4G with rooted stock ROM (Gingerbread), flashed radio version T989UVMC6, manually debloated and dewizzed. I'm running Halo launcher and Busybox Free version 9.6.
Since almost the first day I've had this phone, it would occasionally force close the phone process, usually when hanging up the phone with the Bluetooth radio on and paired with an earpiece. It happened bone stock, rooted, after I changed the modem, whenever. It seemed to happen less often after I changed the modem. The process always starts back up, but the Bluetooth device connection and system sound controls are wonky (unusable) until the phone is rebooted.
The only thing that seems to stop it is running Zepplinrox's V6 Supercharger script. That, however, occasionally freezes the entire system when trying to open certain apps, requiring a reboot. I've run earch after search on this subject, and nobody else seems to have this problem. The only thing I haven't tried is wiping the whole thing and flashing a custom ICS or JB ROM. I tried Dark Knight ver. 8 and hated it pretty much instantly.
I have two questions. Number one; Will flashing a custom ROM fix this situation? I figure that this must be a problem with the crappy stock Samsung ROM. Number two; Which ROM is fully functional and stable? I'd really like to keep this phone dependable. I don't care about the latest and greatest funky cool features that are hit-or-miss at best. I just need dependable, fast and functional.

Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081

Romman0 said:
Since you have been having issues for a while, I would suggest starting fresh. With a few runs of black hole wipe from cwm. Add a run of the gremlin remover for extra cleanliness. Then a flash of the latest ICS rooted stock rom and kernel, for reliability.
Black hole wipe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721057
Gremlin remover, FSC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218713
Uvmb1 ics ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329081
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I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.

ionizd said:
I'll definitely go for the rooted version! Does it matter what order in which the ROM and the kernel are flashed? Also, I take it from the name of the download link that I'll have to go through the process of de-bloating this thing again. S'okay, I actually enjoy that part, but I don't want to screw it up since I've not messed with anything newer than GB. Is there a good guide somewhere on the forum for apps that can be dumped safely? I know there was one for GB stock root.
Thanks for the response.
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Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat

Romman0 said:
Flash the ROM then the kernel, rewipe cache and davlik, then profit.
The most recent ICS debloating thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183726&highlight=debloat
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A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?

ionizd said:
A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.

ionizd said:
A few more silly questions; Do I need GAPPS or is that just for CM? Aren't the CM 10 ICS nightlies fairly stable and relatively bug-free? I use CM7 on my Nook color and it's...okay... Just a few little annoying things pop up with that. To be honest, I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and adding stuff I like rather than pulling stuff out of the Samsung stock ROM, but the issues I've had with the Nook and CM7 have sort of scared me off. Your opinions?
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The stock roms don't require gapps, but like Wolf said the cm10 jb variants do.
If your willing to use cm10 it is very stable. Just use the latest CM10 nightly and not the old stable version.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922935
The jb gapps 20121011 http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip

xWolf13 said:
All the AOSP ROMs for the Blaze needs GAPPs. And yes. The latest CM10 nightly is stable. And you said CM10 ICS? CM9 is ICS and CM10 is Jellybean.
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Of course. I get a bit confused ever since people started talking about 10.1.

Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?

ionizd said:
Okay, I went ahead and installed the stock rooted ROM with the stock kernel. Went through the debloating process (mostly, there are some apps that I'm not sure I can do without so they stay for now), and did some customizing. I'm seeing a bit more battery drain. Is this an issue with ICS or do I need to try another kernel or supercharge the phone? I also have this crazy issue with ROM Manager ver. 5.5.3.0. It tells me that there is an updated version of Clockworkmod Recovery, but it freezes when I try to flash from ROM Manager. Also, ROM Manager freezes when I try to reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery. Maybe I need to test a bit more before I mess with it any more.
**EDIT** Well, it looks as if my CWM recovery installation is corrupted. Can I reflash it without messing up my current ROM?
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Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous

jparnell8839 said:
Yes, with Odin, in the Dev forum
BTW, stay away from ROM Manager with our device. I've softbricked so many times because of it, it's ridiculous
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Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /

ionizd said:
Used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011585, it worked well. Still have the battery drain issue, though. : /
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Since you have it setup, except for battery life. I would make a backup, then try a mod one at a time and see if any help. Also check the battery stats to see if anything of is seen. ICS will use more juice than GB, generally.
I would suggest Nos/direct injection, supercharger, or cross breeder. I would use one and see, then restore and try another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565

Some time later...
I've been using the stock rooted ICS ROM since my last post, debloated and dewizzed of course, with Holo Launcher and T989UVMC6 baseband version flashed. Just over a month has passed, and I have good news!
I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE!!!
All of the force close and freezing issues have vanished, the phone's battery lasts almost as long as it did on GB, it's WAY more user friendly, and the phone is as fast as it ever was.
The bad news is that my wife got a GS4 and I lust after it now. : /
Thanks to everyone for their help!

Interesting 1st attempt

Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.

uwais27 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.
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Follow the link in my signature for a ROM review... I've heard debates over the best versions for battery life, but JB in my opinion is far superior to ICS... Oxygen is a great ROM, but it won't get more updates and kernels/mods ect.. Are harder to obtain.. It may be a bit challenging to do, but I'd use 4.1.2 JB (follow my chart) or skip to 4.3 JB (Mokee or Slimbean)
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good flashing

uwais27 said:
On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed?
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Speed yes. Battery life no.
uwais27 said:
With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
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There are stutters here and there. You need to overclock to obtain "optimal" ICS and JB performance. JB is smoother than ICS.
uwais27 said:
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date?
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No.
uwais27 said:
If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups?
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No.
uwais27 said:
Do I need to partition my sd before wiping,
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No.
uwais27 said:
....does wiping not touch the backups?
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Normally it does not. Unless you select "wipe external sd card"