I just bought the TF700, and have a few questions about the functionality of upgrading to JellyBean.
Primary goal: Root (to wipe bloatware) and upgrade to JB from ICS (without unlocking and therefore void warranty).
From all the reading Ive done, it looks like it appears fairly easy to root from ICS, but everything dealing with JB seems to require unlocking. Is this true, and if so, why?
If I simply root from ICS, then upgrade with the stock JB .zip from Asus, will it wipe my root as well?
I want to keep things simple and just run JB with all the bloatware cleaned out. This is for the fiance', so KISS is the moto for all of this
Thx.
Forum threads Ive been reading:
Step by step from Scott (for the Asus JB):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
How to Root and unlock bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Custom Rom from Scott:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919851
Smokenjoe said:
I just bought the TF700, and have a few questions about the functionality of upgrading to JellyBean.
Primary goal: Root (to wipe bloatware) and upgrade to JB from ICS (without unlocking and therefore void warranty).
From all the reading Ive done, it looks like it appears fairly easy to root from ICS, but everything dealing with JB seems to require unlocking. Is this true, and if so, why?
If I simply root from ICS, then upgrade with the stock JB .zip from Asus, will it wipe my root as well?
I want to keep things simple and just run JB with all the bloatware cleaned out. This is for the fiance', so KISS is the moto for all of this
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1. We can't root while on JB because our dev have't found a way to do it yet. When unlocking, It allowed us to to install custom recover and use it to push superuser app(root app) to the OS or flash already rooted rom to our device,
2. Upgrading from ICS to JB with OTA root keeper will preserve root, therefore you should have root after upgrade to JB. But if you don't have root and you already on JB then you only have 2 options: a) downgrade back to .30 to root or b) Unlock the device to install custom recovery and use this to push root or pre root rom to our device.
Hope it clears for you.
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buhohitr said:
Smokenjoe said:
I just bought the TF700, and have a few questions about the functionality of upgrading to JellyBean.
Primary goal: Root (to wipe bloatware) and upgrade to JB from ICS (without unlocking and therefore void warranty).
From all the reading Ive done, it looks like it appears fairly easy to root from ICS, but everything dealing with JB seems to require unlocking. Is this true, and if so, why?
If I simply root from ICS, then upgrade with the stock JB .zip from Asus, will it wipe my root as well?
I want to keep things simple and just run JB with all the bloatware cleaned out. This is for the fiance', so KISS is the moto for all of this
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1. We can't root while on JB because our dev have't found a way to do it yet. When unlocking, It allowed us to to install custom recover and use it to push superuser app(root app) to the OS or flash already rooted rom to our device,
2. Upgrading from ICS to JB with OTA root keeper will preserve root, therefore you should have root after upgrade to JB. But if you don't have root and you already on JB then you only have 2 options: a) downgrade back to .30 to root or b) Unlock the device to install custom recovery and use this to push root or pre root rom to our device.
Hope it clears for you.
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Perfectly. Since Im still on stock ICS, I can simply root as normal, then OTA for JB upgrade. This is exactly what Im wanting to do, just needed the clarification. Thanks!
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i've got some questions
so we all know that the ics update is just some weeks away
i'm not really sure if i should flash the stock rom to get some original ics taste.
1.can i root my tf when flashing to the latest tf honeycomb stock rom?
2.also is it possible to root ics after the update?
also i heard of the new tool from supercurio(OTA rootkeeper) as i understood, it has a function to somehow unroot your device and also reroot it because it keeps some su backups. supercurio says that the reroot will work unless the /system partition will be formated with an update.
so now a little scenario
i flash my tablet to the latest stock honeycomb rom from asus.
then root it. now i use ota rootkeeper to preserve my root and unroot my device when the update is released. i update to ics.
3. should it now be possible to reroot the device?
4.will the /system partition be formated?
5. or should i just wait until some custom roms on ics basis are released?
regards =)
leveliciouz said:
5. or should i just wait until some custom roms on ics basis are released?
regards =)
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This, wait for a detox'd version.
leveliciouz said:
i've got some questions
so we all know that the ics update is just some weeks away
i'm not really sure if i should flash the stock rom to get some original ics taste.
1.can i root my tf when flashing to the latest tf honeycomb stock rom?
2.also is it possible to root ics after the update?
also i heard of the new tool from supercurio(OTA rootkeeper) as i understood, it has a function to somehow unroot your device and also reroot it because it keeps some su backups. supercurio says that the reroot will work unless the /system partition will be formated with an update.
so now a little scenario
i flash my tablet to the latest stock honeycomb rom from asus.
then root it. now i use ota rootkeeper to preserve my root and unroot my device when the update is released. i update to ics.
3. should it now be possible to reroot the device?
4.will the /system partition be formated?
5. or should i just wait until some custom roms on ics basis are released?
regards =)
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1. yes, with nachoroot
2. it is possible on prime now (see prime forum) and also expected on TF101
No reason to unroot if the update arrives. OTA update is only blocked when CWM is installed.
3. yes if system partition is not formatted. This is not the case on prime and wouldn't expect this also on TF101
4. This is not the case on prime and wouldn't expect this also on TF101
5. Whatever you want. See also point 2.
This is my daughters xoom. I really only want to root it to use Titanium Backup.
Is it possible to rooted with normal method by flashing cwm and flashing root from there using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242241
and then somehow reflash the stock boot/recovery images.
Would this allow a rooted device with OTA updates?
You can flash stock ROMs on a rooted device: yes.
However: during the process of rooting all of your data will be wiped, so you might want to check with your daughter if that's okay with her!
If you want to stay up-to-date with your Xoom (even before the stock ROMs come out!) my advice to you is to flash team EOS 2.0 on it.
It is extremely stable, runs ICS (even if you have the 3/4G model!)
I think that it's possible to get OTAs if you flash the stock ROM.
Watch out however! If you haven't installed VooDoo OTA RootKeeper, you will lose your root!
So: Install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper if you want to keep your ROM up to date with stock images, while remaining rooted!
Hope this helped, if so, please thank my post, sothat I start my sunday morning with a great feeling!
Hello everyone,
I'm a noob to rooting and the whole flashing custom ROMs.
I rooted my Verizon GS3, installed ROM Manager, and flashed CwM Recovery. I then installed a "stock recovery" file in hopes of receiving OTA updates from Verizon w/o losing root. However, after installing the stock recovery, I lost root access.
My question is: can I receive Verizon OTAs on a rooted phone? If so, how? Any help is greatly appreaciated.
BTW, anyone know when JB 4.1 will be pushed to vz customers OTA?
kdubs71 said:
Hello everyone,
I'm a noob to rooting and the whole flashing custom ROMs.
I rooted my Verizon GS3, installed ROM Manager, and flashed CwM Recovery. I then installed a "stock recovery" file in hopes of receiving OTA updates from Verizon w/o losing root. However, after installing the stock recovery, I lost root access.
My question is: can I receive Verizon OTAs on a rooted phone? If so, how? Any help is greatly appreaciated.
BTW, anyone know when JB 4.1 will be pushed to vz customers OTA?
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Yes you can receive OTAs on a rooted stock setup, but you want to block these OTAs using something like OTA root keeper and don't install these updates as it will break root, and can cause a bunch of other headaches and problems. If you really want stock wait till a dev roots the latest OTA update then flash that to keep root acess. It will likely be a while probably 2013 at the earliest before Verizon pushes the JB update. If you want JB take a look at a custom ROM such as CM 10.
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There is a thread with a ota updater for stock rooted and unlocked users. It lets you stay rooted and unlocked and get the updates. Not sure if it works with a custom recovery flashed though. I think its in the android development thread
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Two other possible Options:
Can try this from cj64: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964502
might be more than you're looking for or not apply since you didn't mention about (un)locked bootloader.
open1your1eyes0 has a guide to go to the leaked JB verizon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
Its good to join a new forum!
Ive decided too take one of tf300s home from work to help feed my root hunger (also running cm10.1 on htc evo 4g lte)
This tablet is currently running 4.0.3
Assuming i will be walking the custom ROM road, should I leave tablet at 4.0.3 or upgrade to JB? I won't have my p c to perform fastboot until next week, this is why i ask.
Thanks in advance :beer:
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I would suggest moving up to JB. I've been using CM 10.1 (which is running 4.2.1) on my TF300T and it's been great. The UI and options are better on JB than on ICS, even though ICS was a pretty great step up.
casualPhoenix said:
I would suggest moving up to JB. I've been using CM 10.1 (which is running 4.2.1) on my TF300T and it's been great. The UI and options are better on JB than on ICS, even though ICS was a pretty great step up.
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I also just got my tablet now and I'm holding the firmware update while reading, what do you advice? push to OTA or unlock,root,then custom rom? I thought I saw few others having problem with JB is that OTA JB? That's why I'm not pushing any OTA updates for now.
Thanks in advance!
jkoch35 said:
Its good to join a new forum!
Ive decided too take one of tf300s home from work to help feed my root hunger (also running cm10.1 on htc evo 4g lte)
This tablet is currently running 4.0.3
Assuming i will be walking the custom ROM road, should I leave tablet at 4.0.3 or upgrade to JB? I won't have my p c to perform fastboot
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melvsmeister said:
I also just got my tablet now and I'm holding the firmware update while reading, what do you advice? push to OTA or unlock,root,then custom rom? I thought I saw few others having problem with JB is that OTA JB? That's why I'm not pushing any OTA updates for now.
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1st solution (That I've made)
Don't update to JB now.
Rooted and unlock in ICS
Backup your root with OTA Rootkeeper
and after JB update by OTA and restore your root with OTA ROOTKEEPER.
2nd Solution:
Or unlock and root your TF and use the NVFLASH tool (with pre-JB bootloader)
3rd solution:
Go on OTA JB Update
Unlock your TF
and use this guide : [ROOT/ROM] Root Stock/Deodex Firmware 10.4.2.20 (US/WW) | Insecure kernel ! when you are on the version of firmware
Go to my index and you will find all the links that you need
philos64 said:
1st solution (That I've made)
2nd Solution:
Or unlock and root your TF and use the NVFLASH tool (with pre-JB bootloader)
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Thanks for your help here's what I did:
-Unlocked using APK
-did NVFLASH tool
-flash CWM
-root
-install OTA Rootkeeper
Now I want to install hydro and I know I have to be in JB boot loader the only question for me now to be able to proceed is:
-Install the pending OTA JB update (I dont know if this will proceed installing since it was downloaded while Im stock, I'm afraid it will brick my device since Im now unlocked,nvflash,rooted)
OR
-Just DL latest from ASUS (ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T Firmware: V10.4.2.20 Only for US SKU (Android 4.1)) Can I just install the latest or I need to install pre requisite update first?
THEN
-Install compatible recovery for JB
-Install custom rom
melvsmeister said:
Thanks for your help here's what I did:
-Unlocked using APK
-did NVFLASH tool
-flash CWM
-root
-install OTA Rootkeeper
Now I want to install hydro and I know I have to be in JB boot loader the only question for me now to be able to proceed is:
-Install the pending OTA JB update (I dont know if this will proceed installing since it was downloaded while Im stock, I'm afraid it will brick my device since Im now unlocked,nvflash,rooted)
OR
-Just DL latest from ASUS (ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T Firmware: V10.4.2.20 Only for US SKU (Android 4.1)) Can I just install the latest or I need to install pre requisite update first?
THEN
-Install compatible recovery for JB
-Install custom rom
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It's really easy now that you're unlocked, rooted and used NVFlash.
I suppose you're still in ICS.
Backup somewhere all of your files (stock rom, nvflash file etc...) use Titanium backup for save & restore your apps later
You can use both process for update your TF
The OTA update, and every time, you are going to have to restore your root.
I just picked up a used One X to replace my Vivid.
It is running ICS 4.0.3 and the kernel is 3.08
I want to upgrade it to JB, but should i do that by means of unlocking it as is then running a custom rom?
My main concern is just being rooted and on JB (I am not too concerned about custom roms at the moment)
Also if anyone could link me to the best how-tos that would be great!
IzeBerg said:
I just picked up a used One X to replace my Vivid.
It is running ICS 4.0.3 and the kernel is 3.08
I want to upgrade it to JB, but should i do that by means of unlocking it as is then running a custom rom?
My main concern is just being rooted and on JB (I am not too concerned about custom roms at the moment)
Also if anyone could link me to the best how-tos that would be great!
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If anything, I'd root and S-off now. Then you'll always have the option of installing a custom ROM in the future.
If you're looking for the stock JB experience, try CleanROM.
Doesn't matter anymore, dudebro. You can root ATT Jellybean just as easily as ICS now.
It's generally never recommended to take an OTA if you can avoid it. Sure it's currently possible to root 3.18, but why go through the hassle when you can just go S-OFF now, install TWRP and flash one of the many Jelly Bean ROMs currently out for our device?
Protogon said:
It's generally never recommended to take an OTA if you can avoid it. Sure it's currently possible to root 3.18, but why go through the hassle when you can just go S-OFF now, install TWRP and flash one of the many Jelly Bean ROMs currently out for our device?
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Completely agree. With each successive update, they keep making the device (AT&T version) harder to root, not easier.
Yes, a root method now exists for 3.18. But at the very least, being on ICS means you can try the corresponding root method; and if for some reason you can't get it to work, you have the option of then updating trying the JB root method.
If you update to JB now (before trying the ICS root method), its all or nothing. Either that root method will work for you, or you are screwed (can't downgrade).
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IzeBerg said:
I want to upgrade it to JB, but should i do that by means of unlocking it as is then running a custom rom?
My main concern is just being rooted and on JB (I am not too concerned about custom roms at the moment)
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YOu don't have to be running a custom ROM if you root/S-off on ICS, and then want to be on JB. You other options are to install a stock rooted JB ROM, or RUU to stock.
Once you are S-off, you can really do whatever you want.
Just be aware that if you root and SuperCID, you must get S-off before trying to run the 3.18 RUU or OTA. Or else you will brick.
Protogon said:
It's generally never recommended to take an OTA if you can avoid it. Sure it's currently possible to root 3.18, but why go through the hassle when you can just go S-OFF now, install TWRP and flash one of the many Jelly Bean ROMs currently out for our device?
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Agree completely! The entire process to S-OFF, install TWRP, and flash a Jelly Been ROM is easy and makes life a lot easier for future upgrades. I was a total noob at the process on HTC devices until a few months ago. Haven't regretted it one bit.