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My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
chrissboston said:
My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
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No. You can still flash anything via custom recovery.
You will, however, lose the ability to flash a custom recovery if it is overwritten via fastboot. If you have root access you can still use the flash_image binary from the device or flash via Rom Manager. If you lose root and recovery though you will have to unlock again.
chrissboston said:
My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
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This is a dev phone, so you can lock and unlock the bootloader as you please. You will not be able to switch the recovery with it locked.
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Rem3Dy said:
If the bootloader is locked you can not flash roms. This is a dev phone, so you can lock and unlock the bootloader as you please.
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Yes you can - via a custom recovery you can flash whatever you want.
Pre 2.3.3 you could fastboot boot a custom recovery and flash whatever you wanted without even touching the stock recovery. That was never the intended functionality though and 2.3.3 took that ability away again (so that you now have to initially unlock in order to flash a custom recovery).
Thanks
Thank you Rem3Dy & krohnjw, I understand now. And thanks for the tip about flashing through rom manager krohnjw, its very usefull and easier instead of flashing manually.
chrissboston said:
And thanks for the tip about flashing through rom manager krohnjw, its very usefull and easier instead of flashing manually.
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And is causing problems en masse.
rentaric said:
And is causing problems en masse.
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erasing before flashing seems to help, I just use fastboot though as it's easy and doesn't have any issues. I don't recommend locking the bootloader if you plan on flashing, but it is possible.
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I agree with you krohnjw as sometimes when you don't do a full wipe the new flashed rom gives you problems, specially with FC's, but I've never had a problem when flashing after doing a full wipe.
Hi I have just recently unrooted my phone and back to stock with stock boothloader and recovery.
I did this because I am just patiently
Waiting for the ICS update.
My questing is...how do I lock the OEM on my phone? I know you could but I want to know how. And ....if I do that....WOULD IT WIPE MY PHONE?
I want to relock my OEM, but keep all my apps on my phone.
So again, if I lock my OEM, would it wipe my phone?
PS. I have 19020A
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Don't think it wipes ur phone... maybe I'm wrong but here ya go
>Fastboot Device
>Fastboot OEM Lock
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Yup it will wipe everything
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mathkid95 said:
Yup it will wipe everything
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fastboot oem lock
Locking doesn't wipe anything. Unlocking wipes.
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You don't have to lock bootloader to recieve OTA updates, unlocked bootloader just allows you to flash something via fastboot (usually CWM). Just be unrooted and have stock recovery, as I do. This way you can always flash CWM, make a nandroid backup and flash someting else...without losing any data (you don't unlock bootloader).
Ahhh damnit. Thanks krohn, had a bit of a brain freeze there.
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dan542 said:
You don't have to lock bootloader to recieve OTA updates, unlocked bootloader just allows you to flash something via fastboot (usually CWM). Just be unrooted and have stock recovery, as I do. This way you can always flash CWM, make a nandroid backup and flash someting else...without losing any data (you don't unlock bootloader).
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Yea, why lock the bootloader? It doesn't need to be.
I thought locking the bootloader DID wipe. I guess I myself am mistaken too. (It would tell you though when you go to do it.).
Lastly, don't you think it's a little earlier to be going back to stock for the ICS update when it's not even announced as far as it being done and the phone; nor, is it announced of when the phone itself will be coming out. And, it won't be sometime till after that as well.
Just my opinion.
(You also didn't need to go unroot if you were stock rooted with no modifications).
Its just that I have lots of apps and I want to have them for when ICS comes out.
And....idk....I just figures if I am not rooted I might-as-well OEM lock just invade..if I might need to...for warenty
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Nah your good on that... while it's rooted and awaiting the OTA... give your phone some Cyber air... over clock it with an app... install a better radio.. do something =]
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BlackHawkA4 said:
Yea, why lock the bootloader? It doesn't need to be.
I thought locking the bootloader DID wipe. I guess I myself am mistaken too. (It would tell you though when you go to do it.).
Lastly, don't you think it's a little earlier to be going back to stock for the ICS update when it's not even announced as far as it being done and the phone; nor, is it announced of when the phone itself will be coming out. And, it won't be sometime till after that as well.
Just my opinion.
(You also didn't need to go unroot if you were stock rooted with no modifications).
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Yes, you can be rooted, but you'll have to have stock recovery and you'll lose root with OTA update.
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dan542 said:
Yes, you can be rooted, but you'll have to have stock recovery and you'll lose root with OTA update.
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You don't need stock recovery. Stock recovery is not checked with an assert and is not patched, it is deleted and flashed using a full image. You can flash the OTA with CWM without any issues.
You will lose root in one of two scenarios with the OTAs, it recursively chmod's /system or formats /system (full update, not incremental). At this point all you need to do it flash the su binary again though to regain root access.
krohnjw said:
You don't need stock recovery. Stock recovery is not checked with an assert and is not patched, it is deleted and flashed using a full image. You can flash the OTA with CWM without any issues.
You will lose root in one of two scenarios with the OTAs, it recursively chmod's /system or formats /system (full update, not incremental). At this point all you need to do it flash the su binary again though to regain root access.
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Ok
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Hello. I am new to the HTC one x coming previously from an HTC inspire. I am with att. I followed the directions and unlocked the bootloader. I have been reading and noticed S-Off is still being worked on. I'm Confused on what my next step is to load a custom ROM. Sorry I know this has probably been answered but I'm still confused. Can I do the next set of steps without a computer and just do it from my phone? I downloaded an app called recovery manager not sure of that will help me out. Thanks for any help you guys can provide. I'm on 2.20 and 4.0.4 thanks again.
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I think at that time after unlock of the bootloader you will need to install a recovery software the one we use is TWRP i would stick with 2.2.0.0 and install it thought goomanager that is avaliable though the play store.
Instructions : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677447
To use goomanager I need to be rooted though right?I don't think I'm rooted. Farthest I have gotten so far is unlocking the bootloader. And I'm not sure what to do after that. I'm not sure if I can do the rest from my phone (which I hope I can). Thanks ks for your help.
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You'll have you fastboot flash SU.. I don't remember where to get the file or the command.... Sorry
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unlock bootloader, flash twrp in fastboot, then flash file below in twrp
CWM-SuperSU-v0.98.zip
DvineLord said:
unlock bootloader, flash twrp in fastboot, then flash file below in twrp
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Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM and be considered as "rooted"?
Thanks
Lunatic00 said:
Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM?
Thanks
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Hmmm I'm pretty sure you can flash a rooted Rom
Lunatic00 said:
Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM and be considered as "rooted"?
Thanks
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You can just flash a custom ROM, which will have SuperSU or SU cooked in. Only need to flash SuperSU if you want to stay on stock ROM and have root.
you made your situation sound different. the steps i take is use my token, flash recovery, then flash a rom or supersu depending if i want a custom rom or keep using stock.
So, I have S-On and the newer Hboot (1.14 I believe), and I had a quick question about TWRP restores and fastboot.
Normally, the process of flashing a new ROM means that I go into fastboot and flash the boot.img first, then go back into TWRP to flash the ROM.
However, what if this happens:
1. backup the ROM that I'm currently on (which is, say AOKP)
2. flash to a new ROM using fastboot boot.img and TWRP (this ROM is Sense-based)
Now, I decide I liked my old AOKP rom better. Can I just go into TWRP and click on restore? Or do I have to do something else first?
You need to also flash the boot.img for the ROM you are restoring to.
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Well if its on your sd card click install then go to file, if its nandriod then use restore and re flash img. I strongly suggest you do s off , process is easy if you read the thread and follow instructions
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crazylilazn said:
So, I have S-On ....
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The answer to any question that starts like this is "You need to s-off before going any further."
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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z-man79 said:
I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?
NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.
NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.