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SOFTWARE UPDATE COMING THIS WEEK
The next GTablet software update is scheduled for release by Friday, December 24, 2010. GTablet Users will be notified of the update automatically while an active WiFi connection is enabled.
(You can also check for updates manually by selecting the Updates icon in the applications menu. Tap the More button at the bottom of the home screen to view the full menu, then tap Updates.)
Please follow the on-screen instructions to download and install the update. Your GTablet should be fully charged before you begin the update process. The download may take anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, depending on the WiFi connection speed.
This update features better performance, improved responsiveness, and the ability to toggle between the customizable Tap’n’Tap user interface and the standard Android desktop. Look for additional updates in the future as we continue to enhance the GTablet.
revlis8989 said:
SOFTWARE UPDATE COMING THIS WEEK
The next GTablet software update is scheduled for release by Friday, December 24, 2010. GTablet Users will be notified of the update automatically while an active WiFi connection is enabled.
(You can also check for updates manually by selecting the Updates icon in the applications menu. Tap the More button at the bottom of the home screen to view the full menu, then tap Updates.)
Please follow the on-screen instructions to download and install the update. Your GTablet should be fully charged before you begin the update process. The download may take anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, depending on the WiFi connection speed.
This update features better performance, improved responsiveness, and the ability to toggle between the customizable Tap’n’Tap user interface and the standard Android desktop. Look for additional updates in the future as we continue to enhance the GTablet.
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Maybe i got the update already... My gtablet doesnt show the desktop from the manual or the adw screen?
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Hmm. Thinking about going back to stock and try it out now. see how fast it runs. maybe run that with LP
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Maybe i got the update already... My gtablet doesnt show the desktop from the manual or the adw screen?
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That 1st screenshot says 'Viewpad7'?
Agreed, the resolution looks off too. 800x480? Looks like xported is confused.
Won't you lose your Root once you choose the update?
His device its also on hspa... Not a g tablet
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Might be interesting to check it out. I do love the TnT Lite 3.1 though. Will I have to re-load the stock first before I can get the update? Does it have the Market on it?
anyone get this yet?
I got it yesterday. Played with it for 10 minutes then installed vegan.
Anyone get this ota... I have 3338 what # is the 12/24 update number?
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Might be interesting to check it out. I do love the TnT Lite 3.1 though. Will I have to re-load the stock first before I can get the update? Does it have the Market on it?
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It contains their own twist of a market - Gmarket
New Gtab owner impressions
Just picked up a Gtablet for myself yesterday. Right now I'm not sure if I'm going to keep this or not.
The good is that I like the size, i don't like the 7" tablets because I think they're too small, the GUI is nice in appearance. But now, the bad. The GUI may have a nice appearance but even with the update it is just way too slow. The screen is ok as long as you're looking at it straight on, but a little angle on it and kiss it goodbye.f
This unit has some nice features, which includes its very affordable price, but it also has a number of downsides and I'm not sure which comes out on top right now.
I'm going to look at ROM options here and decide whether it is worth it to remove their stock OS and GUI and replace it with one of the customer roms available here.
Right now I would say that I'm pretty dissapointed in the way this device works but I like the size of the device and I like the price.
R
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Just picked up a Gtablet for myself yesterday. Right now I'm not sure if I'm going to keep this or not.
The good is that I like the size, i don't like the 7" tablets because I think they're too small, the GUI is nice in appearance. But now, the bad. The GUI may have a nice appearance but even with the update it is just way too slow. The screen is ok as long as you're looking at it straight on, but a little angle on it and kiss it goodbye.f
This unit has some nice features, which includes its very affordable price, but it also has a number of downsides and I'm not sure which comes out on top right now.
I'm going to look at ROM options here and decide whether it is worth it to remove their stock OS and GUI and replace it with one of the customer roms available here.
Right now I would say that I'm pretty dissapointed in the way this device works but I like the size of the device and I like the price.
R
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Welcome to our dilemma!
One piece of advice....new Honeycomb tablets won't be out til March supposedly. I think most of us here will upgrade to something else shortly thereafter.
Until then, you can use this tablet as set up for your final purchase. Get your apps set up in Appbrain. Learn how to back up things. Use this as your experiment tablet and have some fun. Just playing with this tablet convinced me not to buy an iPad. I spent time playing with the gTab and my wife's iPad...even with the viewing angles, this tab wins hands down with roms not burdened by horrible or restrictive UI.
Yes...$400 is a lot to spend on a toy but you'll learn a lot in the process and keep yourself from bricking your ultimate device in the future. Plus you could always pass this on to kiddos or someone you know could use it afterwards.
I'll be giving this one to my dad if or when I decide to upgrade. With a modified Honeycomb rom, you should be able to fetch a decent amount for the gTab and use it for an upgrade if you desire.
The best part...NO CONTRACT and great price. Can't say that about any other tablet we know coming or already on the market.
Haven't heard anything much about what was in this update though? I'm looking forward to the end of January update though.
Would have to disagree.
iPad has a better screen and responds smoother. There are less bugs and errors. Most everything works on the iPad except flash websites.
So far comparing the two, I shouldn't have bothered to buy a gtab yet. Perhaps when the modr's get a couple more months to beat on it, it will become more competitive with the iPad.
There are many advantages of the gtab, however the overall experience is lacking even with tnt lite. It just needs more time.
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Welcome to our dilemma!
One piece of advice....new Honeycomb tablets won't be out til March supposedly. I think most of us here will upgrade to something else shortly thereafter.
Until then, you can use this tablet as set up for your final purchase. Get your apps set up in Appbrain. Learn how to back up things. Use this as your experiment tablet and have some fun. Just playing with this tablet convinced me not to buy an iPad. I spent time playing with the gTab and my wife's iPad...even with the viewing angles, this tab wins hands down with roms not burdened by horrible or restrictive UI.
Yes...$400 is a lot to spend on a toy but you'll learn a lot in the process and keep yourself from bricking your ultimate device in the future. Plus you could always pass this on to kiddos or someone you know could use it afterwards.
I'll be giving this one to my dad if or when I decide to upgrade. With a modified Honeycomb rom, you should be able to fetch a decent amount for the gTab and use it for an upgrade if you desire.
The best part...NO CONTRACT and great price. Can't say that about any other tablet we know coming or already on the market.
Haven't heard anything much about what was in this update though? I'm looking forward to the end of January update though.
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Would have to disagree.
iPad has a better screen and responds smoother. There are less bugs and errors. Most everything works on the iPad except flash websites.
So far comparing the two, I shouldn't have bothered to buy a gtab yet. Perhaps when the modr's get a couple more months to beat on it, it will become more competitive with the iPad.
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Would have to disagree.
The IPad is closed and for the most part you will have to buy the next generation of IPad for improvements. The Gtab is open and it's only gonna improve with time. And Flash is a big deal for most people as it lessens the browsing "experience" without it.
Before I become an apple hater, I don't like Motoroloa because of the locked bootloader. When I buy a piece of hardware I should be able to install what I want, not what some company chooses to let me have.
Yeah, have to beat on the iPad a bit. It has the better screen so big kudos for that. But the lock down just kills me. No Flash, no USB, no microSD, iTunes required, etc. It's just too limiting for me, even if it "just works".
Here's another question -- do Xvid AVI's even work on the iPad as-is? On the GTab, it's just drag and drop. Yeah they aren't high-def but a lot of us still use them as their primary source of video. In my case, I converted all my DVD's to Xvid AVI's awhile back.
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Yeah, have to beat on the iPad a bit. It has the better screen so big kudos for that. But the lock down just kills me. No Flash, no USB, no microSD, iTunes required, etc. It's just too limiting for me, even if it "just works".
Here's another question -- do Xvid AVI's even work on the iPad as-is? On the GTab, it's just drag and drop. Yeah they aren't high-def but a lot of us still use them as their primary source of video. In my case, I converted all my DVD's to Xvid AVI's awhile back.
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Roebeet is completely right. His, rothnic, gojimi, and others have turned this piece of garbage into a real power device. Yes, the display angles stink, but it is only me looking at it, so why would I look at it off angle? Flash, drag and drop useability, complete customizability, higher resolution, lower price... I am sure there are more reasons I didn't mention, but those technical reasons combined with this Dev community make the g tablet a real winner.
BTW if you are not Modding your gtab then you have basically wasted your money.
I remember when limited viewing angles were sold as a plus for privacy when sitting on a plane etc!
I have an ipad as well as my gtablet. Yes xvid plays via the vlc app yes its smoother and more stable but its locked down even jailbroken you can only do so much. I don't like that there are no addons like USB or microsd I like my tab better. I can do more with it. Wish it has GPS like my ipad I really like tomtom on a 10" screen and I like the 3g service. But at a $750 bucks for all the bells and whistles it still can't do what I want it to. I have an iPhone 4 aswell and I can do the same with my iPhone.
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Despite all the issues raised/listed here (including myself..), Infinity still remains the best Android Tablet at least by review sites. Here is another 9/10 score review, just released yesterday.
http://www.neowin.net/news/review-asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t
Very detailed review.
I am posting this so for those who feel like seeing too many negative posts, and doubting the infinity, there are certainly lots of positives on this unit. There are other tablets out there including Galaxy Note 10.1 and iPad series. They all have pros and cons.
My take is simply depends on your use, and with so many reviews giving such high score on infinity simply speaks average people would enjoy infinity over any other Android tablet on the market right now.
For me, Galaxy Note 10.1 was the biggest contender (and owned for three weeks). I ended up choosing/returning back to Infinity because Full HD is such a huge component and something I appreciate every second use (browsing web, reading ebooks, watching lecture videos). In return, I don't get as perfect stability as Galaxy Note but ANR/FC every other day is something I can tolerate. Extra 10 seconds of heavy Flash site loading I can waste. And unfortunately I can't write as fast as I type.
I agree, now that we have so many choices there never really is one great one that is good for everyone. Each person needs to start doing some of their own thinking and choose what works best for them. This is probably why we see the isheep being so driven to CrApple products because they can't make their own decisions they would rather have CrApple do it for them. So they buy whatever they put out not realizing maybe something else cheaper is a better fit for what they need. This is my late night epiphony.
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unfortunately I can't write as fast as I type.
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The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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The new JB builds in the Dev section literally make my infinity fly
With all the fancy specs, but in reality, the Infinity is a disappointment product OUT OF THE BOX. It's not worth $600 due to many issues, including user experiences and things that are not working properly. Hopefully the Jelly Bean could bring its life back to standard.
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The only thing I miss about the infinity is the FHD.. But Id rather have a stable machine, so it was a sacrifice I was willing to take. Bluetooth connection works so I can connect to my phone and have internet, no light bleeds, no lag on apps, class 10 micro sd 64 gb in Exfat is read, speakers are awesome. The Spen is pretty awesome, I take notes and I use the handwriting feature that gets translated to font and it keeps up with me even while writing fast and my handwriting gets sloppy. The best thing is my sloppy writing is translated into fonts and when I can easily switch back and draw figures,pictures, or diagram while note taking, the infinity cant compete with that. At this point Im happy with the note.. but I do have almost 2 months to test this beast out and see if the infinity if able to iron out its quirks with the JB update if it ever arrives within my return window..
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Why are you turning this in to yet ANOTHER 10.1 vs Infinity thread? There are enough of those about already.
On topic - Nice balanced review with plenty of pictures and details. In the month I've had my Infinity I haven't had any ANRs and the only app that crashes is Skype which I really can't explain, very random. Still very pleased with my purchase and looking forward to JB!
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Why are you turning this in to yet ANOTHER 10.1 vs Infinity thread? There are enough of those about already.
On topic - Nice balanced review with plenty of pictures and details. In the month I've had my Infinity I haven't had any ANRs and the only app that crashes is Skype which I really can't explain, very random. Still very pleased with my purchase and looking forward to JB!
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Surprisingly (in good sense), I have noticed this unit (third one) is much stable. I haven't seen ANR since firmware reset, which I had to do since suddenly I could no longer update/install some applications from the Google Play. I had one stock browser sudden close but this happened even on Galaxy Note.
I wonder if at all this time I had two defective units, or simply turning off the bloatware was the magic needed.
In any event, I can now say I love Infinity.
I'm shopping for a new tablet but before I drop $700+ (tablet & goodies) I have a few questions.
Have the I/O issues been resolved?
Seen multiple posts on multiple reviews about case cracking problems, especially when using the dock/keyboard. is this limited or a real issue people are seeing?
overall opinion? Im not buying apple anything.. so if not this tablet, which one? i want 1920 res, 64gb x 64gb storage (sd), hdmi out.. basically all the goodies.
money isnt a factor in my consideration. i want a stable product that can hold up to daily use.
appreciate your comments.
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Have the I/O issues been resolved?
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fixable but voids warranty. and then there's the poor quality control. I suggest buying from a place where you can return the tablet if you get a bad one.
I really really want to like this tablet. just I'm scared I'll get a bad one :/ (I'll be buying overseas as local Asus only distributes the one with dock and I don't need one)
there's also looking elsewhere
Buy it from best buy if u can. They honor the manufacturer warranty for a year so u can swap it out if it breaks or gets discontinued for a new model.
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if you root/flash to fix can you flash back to stock? if so, thats a valid fix.. and im going to root either way.
i dont want to buy something that i have to plan in advance for it to have problems. i dont need a tablet, i want one.. so theres no rush. it sounds like this tablet really isnt worth the money.. on paper it sounds amazing though.
single speaker on the back? is that correct?
Yea a single speaker on the right lower back side. It's am awesome tablet, I like it a lot. Still a lot better then most of the tablets out now.
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so lets go real world use.. not benchmarks. what does the i/o issue really mean to me? its not going to be a file server.
youtube, gmail, web browsing, watching movies, listening to music. thats about it.
slow file xfers or actual performance issues opening/watching files?
bluetooth keyboard issues still? (lag)
network performance?
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so lets go real world use.. not benchmarks. what does the i/o issue really mean to me? its not going to be a file server.
youtube, gmail, web browsing, watching movies, listening to music. thats about it.
slow file xfers or actual performance issues opening/watching files?
bluetooth keyboard issues still? (lag)
network performance?
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I was a original Transformer Prime owner and that thing was a nightmare! I had random reboots, screen tearing, CRAP Wifi, Non existent GPS, force closes up the ass. It as horrible. Best Buy let me exchange it after the Prime was discontinued and I got the Infinity. I have had almost NO issues with this thing. I cant remember the last time this thing reboot on me, if ever. Wifi and GPS are great. When Jelly Bean came out, they keyboard lagged a bit but ASUS quickly came out with a patch update and that was resolved. I don't really know what the I/O issue is...dont seem any issues. I use my tablet for some gaming, browsing the net, gmail/email, music and youtube and its been nothing but great for me. Honestly, Buy the tablet, if you dont like it...return it within the 30 day period. I highly recommend this tablet over the Ipads and most android tablets. If you dont like it, check out the nexus 10...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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so lets go real world use.. not benchmarks. what does the i/o issue really mean to me? its not going to be a file server.
youtube, gmail, web browsing, watching movies, listening to music. thats about it.
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You tap some link in the browser or you want to scroll and nothing happens for several seconds.
"Browser is not responding, do you want to close it?"
Sometimes it also closes by itself because of some unfixed bug.
Of course that does not happen all the time, otherwise I would have thrown my TF700 out of the window already, but it happens too often to not notice. And that is already after unlocking (voiding warranty) and installing CleanROM. Trying to use some Data-to-SD solution failed because the MicroSD interface is unreliable (at least with my SanDisk 32 GB UHS-1 card) and hangs after some time or produces lots of I/O errors in the log.
Do not buy this tablet if you want a mostly problem-free device.
The nexus 10 is a decent tablet.. but the lack of external ports bothers me. No sd card.. and i believe no hdmi. both deal breakers for me. ive read that the toshiba excite 10 is doing pretty well (and has amazing sound).
ill probably buy this tablet, i didnt see any upcoming asus tablets anytime soon. saw rumors of a 13ish inch tablet, but no date listed.
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Do not buy this tablet if you want a mostly problem-free device.
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I was prepared to unlock and void warranty but if doing that doesn't really fix the IO issues, I think Apple will get my money again. I've looked at the Huawei FHD but the lack of community support is a downside. if ever the tab has problems, then I'm stuck. I've looked at the Acer A700 but it's looks cheap and the lower CPU speed is a negative of course.
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anything quad core and faster then 1.2 is fine with me.. a 1920 screen is important as is storage. just not a lot of options on the table there.
might just buy a nexus for now and gift it when something really nice comes around. im not interested in a windows or a ios option at this time.
I have the 700, prime, and nexus 10. My prime after latest JB is actually quite useful now. Rarely I get any ANR nowadays but still do happen from time to time. Theres still def some IO issue still. The 700 on JB I find not as smooth as the Prime and I never get any ANR but it does lag some when I'm trying to do things too fast like open a bunch of stuff one after another. I have to let it catch up. From what I hear about putting custom rom is it will eliminate most IO but not completely. The nexus 10 however is a beast. No lag, no ANRs, I can open a lot of apps and def no IO issue. The only thing I dont like is the screen is LCD which makes it sort of dull looking since the black levels arent as good as the Asus. Also lack of keyboard dock which extends battery and memory and makes typing easy. Charge times are too long with micro usb.
For basic browsing, watching movies, casual gaming, then the tf700 is a good device. Better contrast screen and I can barely tell the difference in sharpness between it and the nexus 10. But I think the keyboard dock and its features is what sets it apart from the nexus 10.
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if you root/flash to fix can you flash back to stock? if so, thats a valid fix.. and im going to root either way.
i dont want to buy something that i have to plan in advance for it to have problems. i dont need a tablet, i want one.. so theres no rush. it sounds like this tablet really isnt worth the money.. on paper it sounds amazing though.
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Actually it is truly amazing. The vast majority are flawless...most people that post non-development related stuff here are posting complaints...looking for sympathy or corroboration, or better yet, solutions.
Unlocked, rooted and ROMed, this is the fastest tablet I've ever used. That includes most that are not in my signature as well as the ones I own.
I found a 32GB Champagne tablet on Adorama for $499 WITH keyboard. Just recently posted a new thread in the General section with a link if anyone's interested. I paid over $100 more at Best Buy for a Grey one that I'll be returning.
If you take the risk and root it, then you should get this tablet. If you expect a problem free experience from stock ROM, stay away. I only use my tf700 for browsing, reading books, YouTube.. and it's so sluggish and unresponsive. You tap the address bar, lag until the keyboard pops up. You then decide to go back to home screen, 2-3 secs until it registers your choice, then a couple more second to redraw the home screen. This doesn't happen all the time but even occasionally is way way too much. Also forget about doing anything while you're downloading or updating apps, it basically freezes the tablet.
The latest update improved things somewhat but not enough. I was planning to hold off getting clean ROM until after the rumored upcoming 4.2 update, but this is so annoying I'm losing my patience.
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Actually it is truly amazing. The vast majority are flawless...most people that post non-development related stuff here are posting complaints...looking for sympathy or corroboration, or better yet, solutions.
Unlocked, rooted and ROMed, this is the fastest tablet I've ever used. That includes most that are not in my signature as well as the ones I own.
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Just wondering if you happen to have a nexus 10 as I dont see it in your signature. The nexus 10 is a beast IMO compared to my nexus 7 with cleanrom. Games are super fluid and I can run a lot of things in the background and it doesn't really slow down. I assume tf700 with cleanrom is going to be similar to nexus 7 with cleanrom.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
So, TF300T friends, I have decided to trade in my tf300t for a different device. I have my own reasons for coming to this decision, but I will not bash this great device. It has served me well for the time being, but now, with all the upgrades to Android, it is getting bogged down. I find myself waiting for its processor to finish working so my unresponsive screen begins to respond again.
Anyway, not going to rant. I intend to go for the new nexus 7. I have realized that my tablet cannot serve as a replacement for my laptop. Yes, I know that it is not intended to be a replacement, but now I truly understand the limitations of an Android device, keyboard or not. I still prefer to use my tablet for movies, reading my ebooks for school (laptop is too heavy), and entertainment.
Forgot to mention that my lag problems have multiplied tenfold after wiping misc to recover from brick a few months back.
Any thoughts?
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Rerooted, Custom ROM, and Faster than EVER!!!
My thoughts...
aarsyl said:
So, TF300T friends, I have decided to trade in my tf300t for a different device. I have my own reasons for coming to this decision, but I will not bash this great device. It has served me well for the time being, but now, with all the upgrades to Android, it is getting bogged down. I find myself waiting for its processor to finish working so my unresponsive screen begins to respond again.
Anyway, not going to rant. I intend to go for the new nexus 7. I have realized that my tablet cannot serve as a replacement for my laptop. Yes, I know that it is not intended to be a replacement, but now I truly understand the limitations of an Android device, keyboard or not. I still prefer to use my tablet for movies, reading my ebooks for school (laptop is too heavy), and entertainment.
Forgot to mention that my lag problems have multiplied tenfold after wiping misc to recover from brick a few months back.
Any thoughts?
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The best part about Nexus devices is that you're pretty much guaranteed the latest and greatest android updates straight from the Google mothership. Thats one of the positives of moving to a nexus device. Furthermore, I believe there's great developer support in XDA for nexus devices since they are quite popular, so it will be easy to get great roms, help etc..
Personally, I would stick with my TF300T since it has a larger screen, keyboard dock and a great battery life (for me). I think that android as an OS, especially since its a mobile one, isn't that good for productivity. Yes, there are some great apps out there, but they will never beat the powerful capabilities of a proper Windows/Mac (Choose your side) computer running the Microsoft Office Suit.
I use my table for leisure, not for doing calculus through the wolfram alpha app, or writing a 1000 word essay; that's what my laptop is for. At least with a Nexus device, it could be used for these things if the android operating system improved dramatically from an update from Google, but thats probably not going to happen in the near future.
It all really depends on what you think you will gain and/or loose if you change devices. My best argument for the Nexus 7 is that it will get the latest version of Android pretty much as soon as it is released, as well as the large developer support from XDA since is quite popular. While the TF300T's biggest advantage is the keyboard dock, it makes typing a lot easier to type, and hence, better for productivity.
In the end, it depends on what you use the tablet for and what you want out of it that decides what tablet you should be using.
BTW, shouldn't this thread be in the general section?
1337 H4X0R said:
The best part about Nexus devices is that you're pretty much guaranteed the latest and greatest android updates straight from the Google mothership. Thats one of the positives of moving to a nexus device. Furthermore, I believe there's great developer support in XDA for nexus devices since they are quite popular, so it will be easy to get great roms, help etc..
Personally, I would stick with my TF300T since it has a larger screen, keyboard dock and a great battery life (for me). I think that android as an OS, especially since its a mobile one, isn't that good for productivity. Yes, there are some great apps out there, but they will never beat the powerful capabilities of a proper Windows/Mac (Choose your side) computer running the Microsoft Office Suit.
I use my table for leisure, not for doing calculus through the wolfram alpha app, or writing a 1000 word essay; that's what my laptop is for. At least with a Nexus device, it could be used for these things if the android operating system improved dramatically from an update from Google, but thats probably not going to happen in the near future.
It all really depends on what you think you will gain and/or loose if you change devices. My best argument for the Nexus 7 is that it will get the latest version of Android pretty much as soon as it is released, as well as the large developer support from XDA since is quite popular. While the TF300T's biggest advantage is the keyboard dock, it makes typing a lot easier to type, and hence, better for productivity.
In the end, it depends on what you use the tablet for and what you want out of it that decides what tablet you should be using.
BTW, shouldn't this thread be in the general section?
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Well, technically....I did ask a question.
On another note...thank you for your reply. My biggest attraction to the new N7 is the processor and the price. *I* personally don't need a 10" screen. I do like the bigger screen, but it certainly cuts down my mobility a little. Even swiping with Swiftkey is a bit more cumbersome in portrait mode. I used my tab as a standalone for about 8 months before I purchased a keyboard attachment, so I have experienced the both of both worlds quite extensively. Now, I only remove my tab for games (which I do a lot less) and for reading longer documents & PDFs.
I feel that the Tegra 3 is the TF300T's biggest flaw. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's why I don't want to save money to get the OG N7.
But what do you know (from experience or friends experience) about different smaller tablets? I've done my research, but opinions on XDA are much more current.
aarsyl said:
Well, technically....I did ask a question.
On another note...thank you for your reply. My biggest attraction to the new N7 is the processor and the price. *I* personally don't need a 10" screen. I do like the bigger screen, but it certainly cuts down my mobility a little. Even swiping with Swiftkey is a bit more cumbersome in portrait mode. I used my tab as a standalone for about 8 months before I purchased a keyboard attachment, so I have experienced the both of both worlds quite extensively. Now, I only remove my tab for games (which I do a lot less) and for reading longer documents & PDFs.
I feel that the Tegra 3 is the TF300T's biggest flaw. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's why I don't want to save money to get the OG N7.
But what do you know (from experience or friends experience) about different smaller tablets? I've done my research, but opinions on XDA are much more current.
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I think the biggest flaw that the Nexus 7 (N7) has, which the TF300T pwns with, is storage, followed by the camera. And you could match the cpu clock speed...
1. The N7 not having expandable is a major downfall - just like iDevices. 32 GB isn't enough for me. Combine that with my parents who have accounts on it and it quickly adds up. Right now I'm jamming 1x 32 GB micro-sd card and 1x 32 GB sd-card, so a total of 64 GB on top of the 32 GB built in (96 GB in total). If I had the money to spend on expensive SD cards, I would be possiable to have a 256 GB SD card and 64 GB micro-SD card in there, adding up to 320GB on top of the built in storage. If *I* had the N7, it would not suit me I need a large amount of storage, but you're needs (and wants) may be different.
2. I'm pretty sure you can overclock the Tegra 3 to 1.5GHz, so it will match the N7's clock speed. Use at your own risk.
Will add my experience with tablets once I've thought about it for a while. One question, how is the Tegra 3 the TF300T major flaw?
The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.
aarsyl said:
The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.
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In the meantime as I read up on what you replied with (BTW, very interesting)...
My friend(‘s family) has a generic 7” android tablet, as well as an iPad Mini, and a iPad, and a Win 8 Tablet and a laptop and this and that etc.. You get the point – he/his family is LOADED.
Anyway, we were once discussing about using tablets, (This is when I used my tablet at school for a while before I got a new laptop to handle the power tasks and improve productivity – I’m going off topic) and I remember him saying something like the iPad Mini (what a rip off – wait what?! ) was better for playing games that involve movement (temple run) and portability since it’s easier to hold and smaller (obviously), but the proper iPad was better for everything else, e.g. Reading, watching a movie, browsing the web since it was bigger.
I do see where he is coming from. It is clear that bigger screens provide a better median of entertainment as it is easier on the eyes, and when having more than one person watching something, makes the viewing experience a lot better.
Though the downside to this is that less portable. It’s like comparing the Galaxy Mega to the original S mini. Many people don’t have hands big enough to hold with one hand, or pockets big enough or store the Mega, making it harder to hold and less portable, it contrast, the mini, is extremely portable, and it is easy to hold with one hand. It’s a good analogy.
Though, I have to stress this point, the answer to your question is dependent on what you want from a tablet, not what other people (like me) want.
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aarsyl said:
The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.
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****After doing some reading and testing****
Hmmm, that's weird, my tablet runs just fine and its on full stock everything. Just updated like 20 apps whilst playing temple run, beachbuggy blitz etc.. The game ran as smooth as always. (FYI, I once had to manually update Android via fastboot after the OTA update to .27.1 failed every time, That's when I lost my root access )
If the tablet annoys you that much, then go ahead and get the N7 if you think it will be less annoying. You have my approval. :good:
Just realized that I forgot to point out in one of the previous post that the TF300T has a better camera than the N7, so that'll be useful to know if your into the taking photos with tablet movement.
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Just had to point out the irony.
ASUS TF300T - It's back from the brink of death....
Rerooted, Custom ROM, and Faster than EVER!!!
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And yet its laggy whilst installing apps? :laugh: This made me laugh. Sorry for my immaturity.:angel:
1337 H4X0R said:
In the meantime as I read up on what you replied with (BTW, very interesting)...
My friend(‘s family) has a generic 7” android tablet, as well as an iPad Mini, and a iPad, and a Win 8 Tablet and a laptop and this and that etc.. You get the point – he/his family is LOADED.
Anyway, we were once discussing about using tablets, (This is when I used my tablet at school for a while before I got a new laptop to handle the power tasks and improve productivity – I’m going off topic) and I remember him saying something like the iPad Mini (what a rip off – wait what?! ) was better for playing games that involve movement (temple run) and portability since it’s easier to hold and smaller (obviously), but the proper iPad was better for everything else, e.g. Reading, watching a movie, browsing the web since it was bigger.
I do see where he is coming from. It is clear that bigger screens provide a better median of entertainment as it is easier on the eyes, and when having more than one person watching something, makes the viewing experience a lot better.
Though the downside to this is that less portable. It’s like comparing the Galaxy Mega to the original S mini. Many people don’t have hands big enough to hold with one hand, or pockets big enough or store the Mega, making it harder to hold and less portable, it contrast, the mini, is extremely portable, and it is easy to hold with one hand. It’s a good analogy.
Though, I have to stress this point, the answer to your question is dependent on what you want from a tablet, not what other people (like me) want.
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****After doing some reading and testing****
Hmmm, that's weird, my tablet runs just fine and its on full stock everything. Just updated like 20 apps whilst playing temple run, beachbuggy blitz etc.. The game ran as smooth as always. (FYI, I once had to manually update Android via fastboot after the OTA update to .27.1 failed every time, That's when I lost my root access )
If the tablet annoys you that much, then go ahead and get the N7 if you think it will be less annoying. You have my approval. :good:
Just realized that I forgot to point out in one of the previous post that the TF300T has a better camera than the N7, so that'll be useful to know if your into the taking photos with tablet movement.
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Just had to point out the irony.
And yet its laggy whilst installing apps? :laugh: This made me laugh. Sorry for my immaturity.:angel:
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Have I tried a custom rom? Have you seen my signature in the first post? Lol....just poking fun at you at this point.
I certainly have not been able to run a game while installing/updating apps. It is becoming quite clear that my tab was faulty from the start. However, I still want to get the new N7 (N7.2, I guess) for my own purposes. Yes, the camera is better, and it did influence my initial purchase of the TF300. But over the past 17 months, I haven't taken more than 50 pictures with my tab, if that much at all. The lack of flash greatly depreciates the value of the camera. I'm not one to use my tab to take pictures outside, either, since my phone has a much better camera to begin with.
I just wanted the peace of knowing that I'm making a good choice for myself. I have never filled up my 32gb of internal memory, so I don't truly need expandable storage. The only thing that I'll miss about expandable storage is the times when I need a few files from another device, and I can easily pop in my sd card from my phone.
Which reminds me, do you have issues with sending files to the TF300? On many roms, I can only send a few files for a day or two after the initial flash, but it blocks any files after that. I have researched this, and many many people have the same problem. Do you? It sounds like you got a good device out of the bunch...
I see that you updated your post. Yes, it's faster than before, but that doesn't mean that it's not very laggy. Besides, I was feeling like 100 bucks when I made that signature...time to change, I guess.
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Have I tried a custom rom? Have you seen my signature in the first post? Lol....just poking fun at you at this point.
I certainly have not been able to run a game while installing/updating apps. It is becoming quite clear that my tab was faulty from the start. However, I still want to get the new N7 (N7.2, I guess) for my own purposes. Yes, the camera is better, and it did influence my initial purchase of the TF300. But over the past 17 months, I haven't taken more than 50 pictures with my tab, if that much at all. The lack of flash greatly depreciates the value of the camera. I'm not one to use my tab to take pictures outside, either, since my phone has a much better camera to begin with.
I just wanted the peace of knowing that I'm making a good choice for myself. I have never filled up my 32gb of internal memory, so I don't truly need expandable storage. The only thing that I'll miss about expandable storage is the times when I need a few files from another device, and I can easily pop in my sd card from my phone.
Which reminds me, do you have issues with sending files to the TF300? On many roms, I can only send a few files for a day or two after the initial flash, but it blocks any files after that. I have researched this, and many many people have the same problem. Do you? It sounds like you got a good device out of the bunch...
I see that you updated your post. Yes, it's faster than before, but that doesn't mean that it's not very laggy. Besides, I was feeling like 100 bucks when I made that signature...time to change, I guess.
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The TF700T was actually the tablet I wanted since it had a faster processor and flash, but when I saw the $1200 NZD price tag it put me off. I bought the TF300T for $700 NZD instead. The draw backs of the tablet was worth the $500 saving. (1 NZ Dollars = 0.83 US Dollars, source: Google)
When you mean sending files to the tablet, do you mean via "adb push filename.extension", or copying and pasting using windows or both?
In the meantime, I'll start testing. I'll post the transfer time when it's done.
BTW, the reason this post is late is because today is the next day in my country. I got to have my sleep, you know.
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Sending a 622 MB file via adb. Using my USB 3.0 port. Device screen off. Dock connected.
Results: 1271 KB/s (637313024 bytes in 489.424s)
1337 H4X0R said:
The TF700T was actually the tablet I wanted since it had a faster processor and flash, but when I saw the $1200 NZD price tag it put me off. I bought the TF300T for $700 NZD instead. The draw backs of the tablet was worth the $500 saving. (1 NZ Dollars = 0.83 US Dollars, source: Google)
When you mean sending files to the tablet, do you mean via "adb push filename.extension", or copying and pasting using windows or both?
In the meantime, I'll start testing. I'll post the transfer time when it's done.
BTW, the reason this post is late is because today is the next day in my country. I got to have my sleep, you know.
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Sending a 622 MB file via adb. Using my USB 3.0 port. Device screen off. Dock connected.
Results: 1271 KB/s (637313024 bytes in 489.424s)
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I surely appreciate you apologizing for the late response. Shows character. (I'm a man of respect.)
Anyway, I'm back from vacation, and I am now responding to yours. I was referring to sendong files via Bluetooth. I even tried sending a file from my tf300 to my brother's tf300 through Bluetooth, and it failed as well.
When I asked him about the lag, he doesn't experience any of it. So I have determined that my tab was slightly faulty when I bought it, but I thought it was normal. At this point, the problem has progressed past my tolerance level. Thanks for your input, and for testing.
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I surely appreciate you apologizing for the late response. Shows character. (I'm a man of respect.)
Anyway, I'm back from vacation, and I am now responding to yours. I was referring to sending files via Bluetooth. I even tried sending a file from my tf300 to my brother's tf300 through Bluetooth, and it failed as well.
When I asked him about the lag, he doesn't experience any of it. So I have determined that my tab was slightly faulty when I bought it, but I thought it was normal. At this point, the problem has progressed past my tolerance level. Thanks for your input, and for testing.
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Okay. Thanks for the clarification :good:. I will try transferring a file via bluetooth sometime today (most likely in the evening, since that is when I usually do this kind of stuff), after I finish moving the majority of the boxes around here to my new house. That way I'll have enough time to set everything up and make sure I don't get anything wrong, as well as not worrying about the boxes. (The furnitures going tomorrow. I don't usually use blutooth that much, so this will be interesting.
Again, sorry for the late reply. It's really because of the different time zone's we're in.
Just advising you that you may any replies from me tomorrow (possibly 2+ days if I don't get reconnected to the fibre network) since I am moving house, as mentioned before.
Hi aarsyl,
I run my TF300T fully stock. I agree with you, sometimes it feels laggy, but hey, it's a budget tablet with high-end specs (well, mostly). Anyway, like you, I intend to grab a 32gb N7.2 sometime during the rest of the year, hoping to catch the release of the LTE (mobile) version, but not out of disappointment on my TF300T, just because is way more practical to carry and use while in the streets. :good:
1337 H4X0R said:
Okay. Thanks for the clarification :good:. I will try transferring a file via bluetooth sometime today (most likely in the evening, since that is when I usually do this kind of stuff), after I finish moving the majority of the boxes around here to my new house. That way I'll have enough time to set everything up and make sure I don't get anything wrong, as well as not worrying about the boxes. (The furnitures going tomorrow. I don't usually use blutooth that much, so this will be interesting.
Again, sorry for the late reply. It's really because of the different time zone's we're in.
Just advising you that you may any replies from me tomorrow (possibly 2+ days if I don't get reconnected to the fibre network) since I am moving house, as mentioned before.
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Ok, no problem. I'll be waiting.
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Hi aarsyl,
I run my TF300T fully stock. I agree with you, sometimes it feels laggy, but hey, it's a budget tablet with high-end specs (well, mostly). Anyway, like you, I intend to grab a 32gb N7.2 sometime during the rest of the year, hoping to catch the release of the LTE (mobile) version, but not out of disappointment on my TF300T, just because is way more practical to carry and use while in the streets. :good:
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I'm not exactly purchasing a new tab out of my disappointment. It is my disappointment that sparked my curiosity of a new device. Somewhere during my search, I realized that I do not need such a large device for my daily use. I use my tab is portrait quite a bit, so a slimmer device is preferable.
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Ok, no problem. I'll be waiting.
I'm not exactly purchasing a new tab out of my disappointment. It is my disappointment that sparked my curiosity of a new device. Somewhere during my search, I realized that I do not need such a large device for my daily use. I use my tab is portrait quite a bit, so a slimmer device is preferable.
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Okay, I'm back. Thanks for waiting. :laugh:
I'm sending files (quite a few mp3's actually ) to the tablet via Bluetooth. Will update this post to say weather they were successful or not. Lets hope they transfer properly. :fingers-crossed:
****WILL UPDATE WITH RESULTS HERE****
This finished a while back, but I forgot about it.
To Tablet.
Successful:victory:: 20
Failed: 0
Total: 20
From tablet (Same files).
Successful:victory:: 20
Failed: 0
Total: 20
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Do you want me to add anything else?
Nope. Nothing else. You have a good device, and I simply do not. I should very oiled that squeaky wheel when I had the chance, but now that squeaky wheel is stuck...figuratively speaking.
I appreciate your time and effort. One more question, are you running a stock or rooted rom/kernel?
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Nope. Nothing else. You have a good device, and I simply do not. I should very oiled that squeaky wheel when I had the chance, but now that squeaky wheel is stuck...figuratively speaking.
I appreciate your time and effort. One more question, are you running a stock or rooted rom/kernel?
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We moved pretty much everything to the new house, but we're not connected to the fiber there. I'm currently at the old house, checking stuff and doing some final touch ups. We still have internet here. But I digress.
I'm running stock .15.3 rom and kernel. It has been rooted via motterchopper and has the XPOSED framework installed, along with a few hand modules. About a year and a bit old, with extended warranty. It's also has a locked boot loader.
I'm grateful for your appreciation; it's people like you that make XDA better as a community. :good:
you have my approval to get a N7.2013, as your TF300T doesn't seem to be the fasted of the pack.
See you round XDA. Have a great day
Live long and prosper.
1337 H4X0R said:
We moved pretty much everything to the new house, but we're not connected to the fiber there. I'm currently at the old house, checking stuff and doing some final touch ups. We still have internet here. But I digress.
I'm running stock .15.3 rom and kernel. It has been rooted via motterchopper and has the XPOSED framework installed, along with a few hand modules. About a year and a bit old, with extended warranty. It's also has a locked boot loader.
I'm grateful for your appreciation; it's people like you that make XDA better as a community. :good:
you have my approval to get a N7.2013, as your TF300T doesn't seem to be the fasted of the pack.
See you round XDA. Have a great day
Live long and prosper.
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Who said that I needed your approval? Just kidding.
I am using the new tablet (16gb version, since 32gb was nowhere to be found), and the difference between the two is amazing! It just updated all of the apps, and the tab felt just as if o just picked it up from sitting idle. You notice no lag whatsoever...so far. I don't regret my decision one bit. Got a warranty on this one, though.
The new size does take some getting used to, but I'm adaptable. The transition shouldn't take very long for me.
Thanks again for your advice, testing, and very kind words.
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Go for it NOW
I am a user of TF 300T> to TF700T> Amazor Fire HD 8.7 and now Google nexus7 FHD 2013
I one word Buy the N7 FHD NOW.
It is fast , slim , Portable , charges wirelessly and cheap with respect to what it can do.
I use it for Podcast ( both watch ) and steam to bluetooth, Play songs, ocassional gaming , Movies, browing( FB, Linkedin etc, Gmail ).
The only situation where I found it limited was reading Magazines in Zinio. Although fast enough the const zomming in and out takes the pleasute of E magazine .
Anil
Looking for a new tab for ~$200. 2 on my radar are the TF700 and the Galaxy tab 3. All the "official" reviews of the ASUS are great, but a lot of the real world reviews complain that it's sluggish, poor battery life, poor build quality. Don't know if the sluggishness is cured by a new ROM or not. I'm not sure which is faster--hard to compare specs between 2 chip architectures, although the samsung is newer. I don't need a dock. So which would you get?
TF700 is sluggish even with custom rom. I would not spend my money again on this. After every wifi connect it takes minutes the device responds hardly at all. Some times it takes minutes to wake from sleep. Any app using flash memory blocks the device for the time, e.g. play store updates.
This is even after the custom modders hard work in effort to make it better. I`m on cromix 5.4.
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TF700 is sluggish even with custom rom.
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True. Sometimes. Slow storage cannot be fixed by software workarounds.
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After every wifi connect it takes minutes the device responds hardly at all. Some times it takes minutes to wake from sleep.
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In my experience, connecting to wifi causes about 3 seconds of lag where the device is unusable. And I become impatient when it takes more than 3 seconds to wake up, because usually it takes 1-2 seconds. All that without any special tweaks and keeping fsync on.
I don't use a lot of apps that run on wake up (like Google Now) though.
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Any app using flash memory blocks the device for the time, e.g. play store updates.
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True, sometimes. That's why I turn off auto-update.
It seems people are able to get the device responsive. The root failure is the known flash issue. I have plenty of apps installed, including the google services. I should really try to find and disable the services that start syncing while waking up and getting internet connection.
But still, comparing to other devices I have, they are cheaper and don`t have the same issues. I was cheated by asus while buying a top of the line price device, and not getting a device worth the money.
On the other hand, you are buying a second hand device, and not paying that much. The best thing about the device is the custom roms and tweaks that sdbags, _that and co. are doing. They keep the device software fresh, and try to tackle the issues. Thanks for that!
Get the Asus TF701T or Nexus 10 if you are on a budget?
Don't buy the Tab series. It's rubbish. Sluggish, laggy and the hardware is something that makes an iPad look high-end.
The TF700 has serious I/O issues (which a few lads here have done a marvellous job of making bearable, provided you're willing to waive your warranty.)
Don't know if you've got some money to spare, but if you're intending to last a few years with a tab, save some more quid and look into the TabPro series.
I have to agree with everyone and avoid the TF700. I have a first gen Samsung Tab 10.1 and even though it's plastic and feels cheap in your hand it runs circles around the TF700.
I upgraded last year to a Note 10.1 (2014) P600. It's been very good imo. The plastic housing turns some people off though.
If you want a cheap quick tablet the Tab 3 might not be a bad choice.
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TF700 is sluggish even with custom rom. I would not spend my money again on this. After every wifi connect it takes minutes the device responds hardly at all. Some times it takes minutes to wake from sleep. Any app using flash memory blocks the device for the time, e.g. play store updates.
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I bought mine refurbished from a Woot! deal earlier this month. The TF700 is slow as molasses. It probably runs as smoothly as the original Samsung Nexus Galaxy smartphone. Every minute of regular use, it'll hang for a few seconds on some random action.
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I have to agree with everyone and avoid the TF700. I have a first gen Samsung Tab 10.1 and even though it's plastic and feels cheap in your hand it runs circles around the TF700.
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In hindsight, I probably should've bought that instead.
I must take some of my words back. Now I updated to chromix-kk. While at it, I didn't install all the apps I had previously, and disabled some bells and whistles that check things from net while wlan connects. This is way better to use now.
Never the less, still mad at Asus...
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I must take some of my words back. Now I updated to chromix-kk. While at it, I didn't install all the apps I had previously, and disabled some bells and whistles that check things from net while wlan connects. This is way better to use now.
Never the less, still mad at Asus...
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Thanks for the input. Bought a tf700 from new egg, but they ended up dicking me around and never shipped it. Found a galaxy note 10.1, and am happy enough with it that I haven't bothered rooting/installing a new rom...
I'd buy a Nexus 10 if they ever get them back in stock...
Very happy now
I bought a TF700 in December 2012 after reading many positive reviews which were obviously written by people who never spent much time actually using one. I suffered though a year of using it with the stock ASUS ROM.
December 2013...out of warrenty...time to be daring...nothing to lose...before buying a Nexus 7, I decided to unlock & install CROMi-X...like night & day...I actually enjoyed using my TF700... don't need a Nexus 7 anymore.
Spring 2014...tried CROMBi-KK on ROM2SD...liked KitKat...CROMBi-KK got better with every new release...very stable now.
September 2014...tried f2fs format for data partition...even better!!!
Like I said...VERY happy NOW...sbdags and crew are miracle workers...their efforts made it possible to transform a device that I was ready to trash into a device that I use throughout the day and is a pleasure to use.
If you're stuck with a TF700 on stock ASUS, give CROMBi-KK or ZOMBi-X a try...they're still under development, so I think the best is yet to come
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I bought a TF700 in December 2012 after reading many positive reviews which were obviously written by people who never spent much time actually using one. I suffered though a year of using it with the stock ASUS ROM.
December 2013...out of warrenty...time to be daring...nothing to lose...before buying a Nexus 7, I decided to unlock & install CROMi-X...like night & day...I actually enjoyed using my TF700... don't need a Nexus 7 anymore.
Spring 2014...tried CROMBi-KK on ROM2SD...liked KitKat...CROMBi-KK got better with every new release...very stable now.
September 2014...tried f2fs format for data partition...even better!!!
Like I said...VERY happy NOW...sbdags and crew are miracle workers...their efforts made it possible to transform a device that I was ready to trash into a device that I use throughout the day and is a pleasure to use.
If you're stuck with a TF700 on stock ASUS, give CROMBi-KK or ZOMBi-X a try...they're still under development, so I think the best is yet to come
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WOW..
So much love for crombi zombi cromi :good: check this out team ...
@sbdags @hardslog @_that
So much love for our many hours spent....
Thx Josh
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So much love for our many hours spent....
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"Making the TF700 suck less since 2012".
( however, currently working on making TWRP suck less )
I really am not happy with mine. I was happy with Cromi-x but started to get laggy out of the blue. Currently trying Zombi and Cromi, see which one is better for this piece of junk.
Thanks for the hard work!:good:
Very Unhappy
Happy?? NOT AT ALL, this was a waste of money, what a piece of crap. Design is good, is aluminum, nothing really fancy, I don't care if a product is made out of plastic if runs smoothly. Is VERY sluggish overall, but... playing games is perfect, the Tegra4 shines in that area. So.. if you want to waste your money in junk, go for it and buy a TF700.
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Happy?? NOT AT ALL, this was a waste of money, what a piece of crap. Design is good, is aluminum, nothing really fancy, I don't care if a product is made out of plastic if runs smoothly. Is VERY sluggish overall, but... playing games is perfect, the Tegra4 shines in that area. So.. if you want to waste your money in junk, go for it and buy a TF700.
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Ahhh, don't wanna rain on your parade, but the TF700 has the Tegra 3...
Try a custom rom - makes a hell of a difference!
Happy? Overall, yes.
I bought my 2012 TF700, with keyboard dock, for 230 bucks off ebay just about two months ago. I like my hardware older, cuz it means I can afford it. Could have gotten one even cheaper, but this guy had really cared for his -- had the original packing materials, manuals, and the whole nine yards. Since I had a tF101 with Timduru's superb ROM (KatKiss), I'd been to the ROM flashing rodeo before. And immediately I went for Crombi-KK, Zombi-X, Crombi-KK again and so on. Two big snags up to that point... Chrome browser just dogged it sometimes, suddenly and without wraning. And the whole thing seemed -- sigh -- laggy some times.
Enter in the ROM2SD / DATA2SD options via sdbags _that and the crazy ROM roasting crew. The tablet went from slow to medium to very fast. I monkeyed with varioius settings in the cpu profiles as well. I went for f2fs format on the data partition. In short, I made it a hobby to get this baby working smoothly and well. And ya know what? I'm about 90 percent or better there. Chrome, I must say, does NOT impress me as a browser. The best one? That little funky android browser that doesn't get much love yet is packed in with the operating system. I also suspect the gmail app of being a major player in slowing my system down sometimes. But overall, as a user who really wants to use this baby as a productive laptop and not as much a gaming tablet, I am finding it quite nice indeed. If I'd had more money, I'd have gone for the TF701. But for 230 bucks plus 30 more for a 64 gig micro-sd card of quality to use via data2rom, this baby is nearly a third to even one half faster than it was before.
Hacker mentality? You can have a lot of fun with this tab. But if you want things to work right out of the box, better go for a TF701 or (gag!) even a Winduhs tablet. But don''t get me started on my loathing of win 8.1....
Blessings. Happy (almost) all the time w/ my Asus Transformer TF700. Now, if only I could turn that annoying mouse pad off!
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Short answer is yes.
But it depends on why I chose to get a tablet in the first place. I really have no need for a tablet. My phone was giving me everything I needed for anything mobile and my laptop was perfect for daily computing. I recently needed to read massive amounts of PDF books and although my laptop was available, I realized a tablet would help me out a lot. So I knew I needed a screen with good resolution. I was about to buy a generic tablet that for the bill for 100 but soon realized that there wasn't much development for these generic tablets. I found the tf700 had an awesome screen resolution and big development support. I got it for 150 refurbished and I can't find a better deal considering the tablet's screen resolution.
TBH I think that there are better buys out there if you want a tablet that will be quick, will have future support, will be used with all the bells and whistles of android. But for my needs I can't find a tablet that's running a very stable kk ROM with this resolution for 150. I'll probably sell it next year for 100 bucks? Not bad depreciatio
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Like I said...VERY happy NOW...sbdags and crew are miracle workers...their efforts made it possible to transform a device that I was ready to trash into a device that I use throughout the day and is a pleasure to use.
If you're stuck with a TF700 on stock ASUS, give CROMBi-KK or ZOMBi-X a try...they're still under development, so I think the best is yet to come
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My experience is much the same as yours. I found myself rarely using my tf700 because of its sluggishness, and when one evening I needed it for a simple skype call and it wouldn't perform, I decided it was either the bin or try to do my first ever unlock, install twrp and crombi-kk. I went for the latter. Everything went smoothly, and I now have a tablet that actually works, and even works quite smoothly. Thanks to sbdags &Co.