Beta Test HTC Phones - General Questions and Answers

I'm looking to beta test new phones for HTC but I am unsure how to get a hold of it so that they can look into it and possibly add me on. I'm also willing to do it for Samsung if HTC is not possible. Any ideas or help?
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First start would be getting a degree in something relevant.
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Do you really want to get stressed with all that bugs? I won't do this hard work just for free phones.

herrmidnqer said:
Do you really want to get stressed with all that bugs? I won't do this hard work just for free phones.
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I have beta tested for a few people but only software and I just like being able to try to find issues with the new phones. I really don't care that its free and as far as dealing with bugs I already do with some of the ROMs I run so it would just be a different set of bugs.
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Brennon19968 said:
I have beta tested for a few people but only software and I just like being able to try to find issues with the new phones. I really don't care that its free and as far as dealing with bugs I already do with some of the ROMs I run so it would just be a different set of bugs.
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The beta testing of devices is alot different then basic rom trouble shooting. You would need to know the base coding and how to decode the code to find issues. I really dont think you understand what your asking for. You would need to know java, C, C+, C++ and Linux and that is just for the software side. As you would need to be able to over solutions on how to fix any issue. Ex. Say I gave you a device to test. The GPS, WIFI, and radio antenna keep failing. Would you know how to fix it? Could you offer something more then "this is broken" Once you got into hardware then you would need to be employed by the company as Test devices are never given out side a set team.

Brennon19968 said:
I have beta tested for a few people but only software and I just like being able to try to find issues with the new phones. I really don't care that its free and as far as dealing with bugs I already do with some of the ROMs I run so it would just be a different set of bugs.
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Like zelendel stated above, phones are an entire deifferent league of beta testing.
Rather than finding bugs and reporting them, you actuall have to know how to fix them yourself
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[Feeler] Flash and forget ROM?

I'm thinking of building a ROM of sorts, and I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in it.
The ROM would basically be what i run on a daily basis. A combination of a ROM and Kernel that work well together, with my own tweaks, changes, and settings baked right into it.
The idea would be that you would flash the rom, then forget you ever did. No changing frequency, no profiles, no Undervolting, no flashing other kernels, just the ROM and nothing else needed. (and I'd discourage trying it)
I would change UV settings to work on most phones, and a small overclock (most likely a 1.1 or 1.2Ghz), as well a stock Frequency/Voltage version. and each version would be stable enough to use as a daily driver.
It would most likely be a 'Flavor of the week' kind of thing, and I'll most likely change the base rom/kernel somewhat frequently (like once a month at most) to what I'm using that's stable.
So, does this sound good to anyone, or am i building for a demographic that's not there?
I would use it if u make it for the photon
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sounds like a great idea... in this trend of rapidly developing roms, a stable rom with recent source changes for a change is great to fallback to.
Do you have any rom development experience? where would you rate your skill level at?
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Sounds like a really good idea, I myself sometimes get sick of constantly flashing & re- setting up my phone the way I like it, a good long term rom with everything would be awesome. How bout using the new 2.3.4 stock as a base?
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wyldkard said:
Do you have any rom development experience? where would you rate your skill level at?
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ive been programming in C/java for about 4 years now, (2nd year programming student currently) and ive been building my personal roms from source for about 6 months, and in the past few months ive started actively changing source code, integrating parts from some kernels and ROMs, and adding things to system apps (like voltage control and frequency mod in the settings.apk)
however, on the other hand, i do have fairly large gaps in my knowledge. i only barely know how to use github, and i haven't really dealt with the Linux/android kernel much before this.
honestly, on a scale from 1-10 (1=android user, 10= developer like Whitehawkx/Morfic) id say about 7.
lowrider262 said:
Sounds like a really good idea, I myself sometimes get sick of constantly flashing & re- setting up my phone the way I like it, a good long term rom with everything would be awesome. How bout using the new 2.3.4 stock as a base?
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would most likely be ICS. (sorry )
Klathmon said:
honestly, on a scale from 1-10 (1=android user, 10= developer like Whitehawkx/Morfic) id say about 7.
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Wow, i don't even rate myself that high, lol. I say go for it, the more devs we got the better.
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Wow, i don't even rate myself that high, lol. I say go for it, the more devs we got the better.
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i feel im a very competent programmer, but there are thing i am pretty much oblivious too. outside of android I've got a good portfolio of programs and source, but when it comes to android, I'm still learning. (and i definitely feel your more knowledgeable than me)
Do it one more person helping the community isn't a bad thing. You're obviously knowledgeable enough. Once you start playing with it and have a base crowd that likes what you do you'll get further involved and make a great rom in my eyes. You're willing to help everyone and give a very insightful solution to most and all types of questions.
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I agree with the above, but be weary of the people who destroy devs by all the nagging and begging.
Anticipating the arrival of this ROM!
I would do it. If you can base it off of stock with some cm7 improvements that would be cool, like with weapon g2x. I was using weapon till I switched to HFP.
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I will always support you, you always have long detailed responses to everyones questions and if anyone complains about your rom, let me know we will have a flame war. We don't want to lose a dev. Also I'm sure the other devs I'll help you out if you have any questions because they are all amazing people IMO. Go for it! Even if no one uses it, its a learning experience for you. You have nothing to lose
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thabest85 said:
I would use it if u make it for the photon
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Too bad this isn't a photon forum hurrdeedurr
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I personally like playing around with all the different kernels, etc..., but this would be perfect for my wife's phone, so I would definitely be interested
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Too bad this isn't a photon forum hurrdeedurr
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sorry i was looking at the top threads lol
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well ok then, it looks like im gonna go for it. thanks for all the support!
it will be ICS, and im still not sure about what ROM and Kernel i will base it off of (i still want to get permission from the original devs first).
keep a lookout for it coming soon(ish)!
ive also asked a mod to lock this (i dont want a hype machine happening that i cant live up to!)
locked as requested!

(Q) Is anyone closer to or working to resolve Bluetooth issue for aokp/cm9?

First off, I want to say that I read the threads extensively, including the cm9 and nunhuggers uniporn threads and I know that neither rom, nor any other cm9 based rom has working Bluetooth.
I realized from what I've read so far that this is a major task and fixing it is going to be a pain, so please if you have an issue with this topic be nice or don't read it. Don't bash me for asking a question. I use Bluetooth and love the ics Roms that have been released so I gave up bluetooth use to use nunhuggers aokp rom which is amazing.
Allentown I want to know is IF anyone is actively working on a resolution for this issue.
Thanks in advance for any useful information you can provide and as always, thank you to all you developers out there for created such amazing roms for us infuse users.
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+1
720p hd vid recording and playback also.
As far as i know bluetooth is a kernel side problem...so.it would take a kernel dev to fix...and since entropy and jt are the only two.who have worked on ics kernel...id say they are the only two who may be working on bluetooth...
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I've never worked on a Linux or Android Kernel - it's been almost a decade since I touched C/C++. I've often wondered the chances of a seasoned developer (C# here) who wasn't been around a lot of C/C++ development solving the bluetooth issue. In the end, learning some of these things comes down to brute force trial and error. However, it would be nice to know from an experienced kernel dev what we'd be up against - or where to start hammering.
Is this something one could do in the evening and get back to a usable phone by the next morning? I'd hate to have to pull out the candy-bar Nokia...but I bet it still works (and with awesome battery+voice quality)!
Also Hdmi would be nice
Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
That's good news I hadn't heard before. Thanks!
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Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
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Great news to hear Ryan!! Quick question, who will be handling Bluetooth for the Sony Xperia Sola that would allow kernel integration for the Infuse?
Edit: As in the company handling it lol
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Great news to hear Ryan!! Quick question, who will be handling Bluetooth for the Sony Xperia Sola that would allow kernel integration for the Infuse?
Edit: As in the company handling it lol
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You mean which company made the bluetooth part? Tbh i can not remember... i think its texas instruments, but honestly i can not remember.
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You mean which company made the bluetooth part? Tbh i can not remember... i think its texas instruments, but honestly i can not remember.
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Just hope that someone is working on it. Thanks everyone!
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Just trying to put some of the different information together. I'd seen bits and pieces but wasn't aware of it all...
A previous thread in this forum showed that the Infuse uses the CG2900 by ST Ericsson.
In jt1134's ICS Rom thread, pdtp stated that the Sony Xperia Sola uses the NOVATHORTM U8500 which contains the CG2900. This phone is expected to be released with 2.3 Gingerbread but updated to 4.0 ICS.
Other device(s) have used the CG2900, with the attempt at integration discussed by LinuxBozo.
Alright, I've taken my first steps into a larger world. I've installed Linux to my laptop and I'm gonna see if I can start the long and seemingly complicated road to kernel development.
My ultimate goal is to attempt to create a kernel with HDMI out support, working Bluetooth, full HD video playback, and a few more needs for the Infuse that need fulfilling, including better battery life and greater wifi range quality.
I know it wont be easy at all considering the two ICS kernels we have are made by tried and true pros, but even they started somewhere, and made some mistakes. No greater teacher for software development than trial and error. Wish me luck folks.
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Best of luck to you. If you go out and search Google for CG2900 Snowball you'll see that even the original developers of the chip were seeking help determining how they should implement their driver. There's open issues with it under Linux as well. I'm amazed it made it into a phone in this kindof shape.
Perhaps that's why the hope is on the Sony phone - they've been fairly transparent as of late with source code drops on their Android phones. Maybe they'll take the time and clean up the driver for the phone?
Thanks, hopefully there is a way to integrate it. I've got a ton of reading to do, let me ask this, is a device's kernel limited to programming native to that device only? I.e., porting that bluetooth tree over to the Infuse? Or that of the Galaxy S II?
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Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sola-4408.php
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Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Bravo to you sir, you are far braver than I. I would imagine there would be many a donation coming your way if you were able to figure something out. Best of luck.
Thanks Mushroom. I want to just say that I'm not doing this because I'm unhappy with our current ICS Kernels, but because I want to give our devices more variety with development.
We're at the mercy of the kernel no matter how impressive the Rom, just imagine having full capabilities and having our community push out ICS original Roms and other devices seeking to port from us!!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sola-4408.php
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Yay! Does anyone know if it will be in a carrier?
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Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Wish you luck. Probably best if you start of his, then build around it modding the kernel, as i think building it yourself is very hard.
Its very intimidating. May start with a Gingerbread base and see what I can migrate over to ICS
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Disabling Phone Features to make a Cappy into a Audio/Video/Game/GPS only unit...

I've tried a bit of searching and while there are a few threads about how to disable phone features, there is no discussion of anyone making a specific ROM that would that would focus the Captivate (or any Galaxy S I suppose) into a Media Player device. No idea how hard that would be and whether it would be as easy as taking an existing ROM and just rearranging and deleting the phone stuff.
Seems that with ICS being designed to work as both a Tablet and Phone OS, you could accomplish this with relative ease. I'm not a coder or ROM developer though, so I could be completely wrong on that too.
At the very least, the battery life would almost certainly increase if the phone never even tried to use the antenna or look for cell service. Seems like it might run smoother too and processing emphasis could be rearranged.
Any thoughts?
Here ya go... Captivate Touch
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Oh wow thanks I didn't know such ROM exists.
Sweet...should have thought of that wording...tried a bunch. I'll have to check that out.
Thanks for the link.
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Here ya go... Captivate Touch
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I'm interested in this as well, but the links are all dead in that thread. If anyone has any luck finding the necessary files, please let us know!
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Don't root and flash G2x if you want full functionality!

Don't root and flash a ROM to your G2x if you want it to fully work. I rooted and flashed Eagles Blood. At first there were a few bugs which I worked out. Then I found out the main problem that is absent from most threads on how to root and flash your G2x. They don't mention you'll have no video! What? There was no video recording, no Netflix, no ESPN and any other app that just so happens to let you stream or record video. I'm just saying it would be nice to see a warning or something telling you about it. Also, there is a lot of network data connection issues no matter which ROM I used. Beware G2x owners! I get the whole use at your own risk thing but you lose a main capability of the phone. If I just wanted to call and text I wouldn't have a smartphone.
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Wow, if you want complete functionality go with a gingerbread rom, like stock rooted, or cm7, not ics. If you read in the OP of ics roms here, it lists what problems there are: no video, somewhat video acceleration, meaning only a few things dont work, among other things.
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You can get netflix, video recording and playback all working on the ICS roms as well if you try.
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+1
And video works on like every gingerbread ROM.
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Sunster you are my hero lol.
The only reason why a lot of videos won't work on ICS is because its missing its video drivers. To compensate the tegra2 will try to render them with the processor but honestly it can't do as much as the GPU can. If you were to install a gingerbread based OS you will get all those functionality back. It may not be included in the description of ICS Roms anymore cause most people already know about ICS not having video drivers. Anyways if you are going to flash a new Rom I recommend Cyanogenmod 7 or Eaglesblood GB based Rom but those are just my personal preferences.
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I gotta +1 on this too...wow
Edit: i do have to say ive gotten mx player to work on two ics roms. Never had video issues with ANY gb rom or port thereof.
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I'm with the OP on this one. Rooting and flashing is so over rated. You can modify and enhance your phone with almost anything in google market. Flashing was just a fad for phones back in 2007. With our modern phones and google market, not only is it unnecessary, but very risky to flash as mentioned by the OP.
It's much more preferable to flash with an official OEM ROM, since unofficial roms could be maliciously programmed, which makes me suspicious why alot of amatuer developers bash LG and Nvidia for trying to make sure there's no open back doors for bad intentioned programmers to hack unsuspecting newcomers.
Good grief
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jacob808 said:
I'm with the OP on this one. Rooting and flashing is so over rated. You can modify and enhance your phone with almost anything in google market. Flashing was just a fad for phones back in 2007. With our modern phones and google market, not only is it unnecessary, but very risky to flash as mentioned by the OP.
It's much more preferable to flash with an official OEM ROM, since unofficial roms could be maliciously programmed, which makes me suspicious why alot of amatuer developers bash LG and Nvidia for trying to make sure there's no open back doors for bad intentioned programmers to hack unsuspecting newcomers.
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I beg to differ I would have ditched this phone long ago if it wasn't for the custom ROMs. The stock ROM gave me SO many issues and for being so featureless it sure did contain a lot of bugs itself in my experience.
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jacob808 said:
I'm with the OP on this one. Rooting and flashing is so over rated. You can modify and enhance your phone with almost anything in google market. Flashing was just a fad for phones back in 2007. With our modern phones and google market, not only is it unnecessary, but very risky to flash as mentioned by the OP.
It's much more preferable to flash with an official OEM ROM, since unofficial roms could be maliciously programmed, which makes me suspicious why alot of amatuer developers bash LG and Nvidia for trying to make sure there's no open back doors for bad intentioned programmers to hack unsuspecting newcomers.
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Lol. this reminds me of the idiom grapes are sour.
better get your flame suit on.
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cricketAC said:
Lol. this reminds me of the idiom grapes are sour.
better get your flame suit on.
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Haha totally agree.
Lol malicious code... get out of here. Some crap in the play store has malicious code. You have way more of a chance catching something from there.
If you're so paranoid then just stick with vanilla cm7... better yet just get an iPhone or windows phone then.
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Don't root and flash a ROM to your G2x if you want it to fully work. I rooted and flashed Eagles Blood. At first there were a few bugs which I worked out. Then I found out the main problem that is absent from most threads on how to root and flash your G2x. They don't mention you'll have no video! What? There was no video recording, no Netflix, no ESPN and any other app that just so happens to let you stream or record video. I'm just saying it would be nice to see a warning or something telling you about it. Also, there is a lot of network data connection issues no matter which ROM I used. Beware G2x owners! I get the whole use at your own risk thing but you lose a main capability of the phone. If I just wanted to call and text I wouldn't have a smartphone.
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Can we have a facepalm button please...?
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I beg to differ I would have ditched this phone long ago if it wasn't for the custom ROMs. The stock ROM gave me SO many issues and for being so featureless it sure did contain a lot of bugs itself in my experience.
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I'm with this guy. As a result of the dev community supporting this phone, I haven't completely lost it and gone on to make the sales rep who sold me this thing eat it in send me to jail fashion. And frankly...we must have some real upscale individuals flashing roms around here if they're worried about some dev seeing the mundane details of their lives...I'd hate to think what would happen if someone knew when I was running to the store because my girl said I needed to grab milk and eggs. If you're using your phone to do things with security risks (like sending your credit card info out into the void) might want to consider not doing those things in the first place...
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I felt this somewhat fitting for the OP.
Either way...
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Thanks for the heads up man!
smfh...
The original post just remind us how difficult and chancy rooting and flashing are for any phone, and particularly for the G2x, which at the moment simply lacks the software to run ics with all its functionality. Flashing is never as easy as it's made out here, and I doubt it leads to satisfactory results for most people.
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The original post just remind us how difficult and chancy rooting and flashing are for any phone, and particularly for the G2x, which at the moment simply lacks the software to run ics with all its functionality. Flashing is never as easy as it's made out here, and I doubt it leads to satisfactory results for most people.
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I have been using XDA since the days of my HTC Excalibur and never had a problem. If anything rooting adds a ton of functionality to your advice also allowing you to remove all of the crapware from your phone. As far as the OP the reason no one says no video anymore for cm9 is because its understood. Did you even read the thread before you flashed the rom?
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After reading the OP:
So keep your phone stock and enjoy it in all of it's frustrating glory. I wanted to do bad things to this phone before I rooted it.
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Any roms working on vzw SCH-i705+

There was one early on by Mr Hyde which I installed and have been using ever since. That was discontinued about a year ago though. Was just wondering if there's been any development since.
See...there's hardly any way to get answers here,,, I mean thank God for the geniuses touching down to earth ever so often with there brilliant work but then they flutter back into their bong smoke filled dens to game on or whatever other strange itch they're wanting to scratch at that particular moment...lol. but answers for the old folks....hehehe not a chance!
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sch-i705+rom
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shakatu said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sch-i705+rom
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I like you shakatu. you've got a sense of humor I can relate with. :good:
Yeah, I can be a little sarcastic. But he DID say people like me used to be super active then disappear to play video games and aren't helpful anymore. Not that we have a life and are actually, you know, devoting 12+ hours a day sometimes 6 days a week to working full time and advancing our education...
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Uh,,,,, that would be a NO then.because none of those lead to a working Rom or a working anything for that matter,,, development for this particular device is dead......that was why I made my remark...because most of you guys go to great links to impress yourselves but add very little to helping any of us that aren't as savvy,,,,, that's pretty cool animation but I see you really haven't followed any of those links in that real cool way to say nothing.....
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Uh,,,,, that would be a NO then.because none of those lead to a working Rom or a working anything for that matter,,, development for this particular device is dead......that was why I made my remark...because most of you guys go to great links to impress yourselves but add very little to helping any of us that aren't as savvy,,,,, that's pretty cool animation but I see you really haven't followed any of those links in that real cool way to say nothing.....
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C'mon man, don't be a troll. There are very few owners/users of your particular tab. Which is why there is little development for it. Have you seen Shakatus contributions to the community of P51xx.Take a look for yourself, and then try spouting off. If he, or any other, of the great devs around here actually had one of your models, maybe they may be able to figure something out. But, he doesn't. So he wont. Unless of course you want to send him yours to try, but I can guess the answer to that. Bashing people around here for problems that you are having (or unwilling to do anything about, except lean on others ie: learn something for yourself) is unacceptable and will be reported. No trolls allowed......next!
I wasn't trying to be crass....I will be happy to donate or whatever in order to advance the work on this model....but there's no current anything for this device.....I've ran down every link and thread trying to find anything useful to break VZW's hold on this device, so it's not a matter of not researching or being lazy....my apologies.
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