Since the latest Tmobile ota update my wifi hot spot feature gives me a Tmobile message on my linked device saying i need to pay for this service. Previously, i got around this by creating a new APN of epc.tmobile.com, this no longer works. Suggestions?
secular said:
Since the latest Tmobile ota update my wifi hot spot feature gives me a Tmobile message on my linked device saying i need to pay for this service. Previously, i got around this by creating a new APN of epc.tmobile.com, this no longer works. Suggestions?
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Try open garden, the one that looks like a tree, you'll need it on both devices and it creates a mesh network, some caviets are apps tha use data wont work, so you have to do everything through your web browser. This solution also solves the screen off issue while tethering.
As of right now this has been removed or blocked in the newest update.
There is nothing yet been found to allow you to set your own APN again.
You can use wifi tethering with FoxFi as a workaround from foxfi.com/bin but for data to work over wifi tethering you will need to keep the screen on.
That is about the only workaround.
TheArtiszan said:
As of right now this has been removed or blocked in the newest update.
There is nothing yet been found to allow you to set your own APN again.
You can use wifi tethering with FoxFi as a workaround from foxfi.com/bin but for data to work over wifi tethering you will need to keep the screen on.
That is about the only workaround.
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Or use open garden and it makes a mesh network, data still flows with screen off, you'll need open garden on both devices. The only issue is apps that use data like the play store will say your not connected, but anything you want to do with the browser you can.
I know not perfect but thats the closest we have right now, besides keeping the screen on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975894
This might be a workaround worth trying..
secular said:
Since the latest Tmobile ota update my wifi hot spot feature gives me a Tmobile message on my linked device saying i need to pay for this service. Previously, i got around this by creating a new APN of epc.tmobile.com, this no longer works. Suggestions?
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if you use google chrome or firefox look up user-agent spoofer.
diabolusmiles said:
if you use google chrome or firefox look up user-agent spoofer.
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Changing the UA(user-agent) is just one of the few obstacles to overcome. The main problem is the tmo OTA update now prevents/locks us from entering the APN needed to bypass/trick the t-mobile tethering check.
secular said:
Since the latest Tmobile ota update my wifi hot spot feature gives me a Tmobile message on my linked device saying i need to pay for this service. Previously, i got around this by creating a new APN of epc.tmobile.com, this no longer works. Suggestions?
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Geez you guys...if you want the service PAY FOR IT! Why should you get it free while others pay?
Behold_this said:
Geez you guys...if you want the service PAY FOR IT! Why should you get it free while others pay?
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We already do pay for it with our monthly contracts, we are allowed x amount of data per month, we go over it and the speed of data isn't even worth tethering. Do they give us money back on the data we don't use? No they don't, so why can't we use the data we pay for any way we want, it's not like data for a tablet costs more or anything like that, it's just greed on the providers end plain and simple.
I just ended up talking to an agent about my bill and I brought up the fact that I couldn't tether anymore, so they put that back on free of charge. I mean hell I'm already paying a decent amount monthly and I have the 5 gig package (which used to be advertised with transforming your device to a hotspot), there is no reason to ask for more other than greed?
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I just ended up talking to an agent about my bill and I brought up the fact that I couldn't tether anymore, so they put that back on free of charge. I mean hell I'm already paying a decent amount monthly and I have the 5 gig package (which used to be advertised with transforming your device to a hotspot), there is no reason to ask for more other than greed?
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I also have a 5 gig plan and the hotspot is supposed to be free, but my 5 gig plan is old and the only way for me to get the hotspot is for me to give up unlimited messaging, which I then would have to pay $15 a month for, umm, yeah, they got me coming and going. BLAH
I work for tmo, and we do give it for free with the 5 & 10gb plans.
Second, I've noticed that it works with Firefox, but no other browser when tethering to a PC/Mac. I haven't edited my APN.
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I really wish it was free, especially with my unlimited 4G plan.
Haven't found anywhere in the city I don't have perfect coverage and it would be sweet to be able to use my tablet/laptop...
bruuutal said:
I really wish it was free, especially with my unlimited 4G plan.
Haven't found anywhere in the city I don't have perfect coverage and it would be sweet to be able to use my tablet/laptop...
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If you're on unlimited, it's unreasonable to ask for wifi tethering. That's like going to a "all you can eat" restaurant, and then bringing a truck to load with food.
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If you're on unlimited, it's unreasonable to ask for wifi tethering. That's like going to a "all you can eat" restaurant, and then bringing a truck to load with food.
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Lol, exactly. That's why there's home internet providers. And if you really just want to use your phone, then just get a 10gb plan that has the free hotspot. You're paying for the investment in network upgrades, your paying the engineers salary to produce a network that's very good.
And of course, the CEO's bonus checks lol
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Custom ROMs?
Do custom ROMs get rid of this pesky problem of no Wifi Hotspot?
poptartz said:
Do custom ROMs get rid of this pesky problem of no Wifi Hotspot?
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Using other roms i can tether temporarally. Well, i get a push message to stop asap or risk losing access. (Im on that unlimited plan.) so i stop. It does work though tethering to my nexus 7, im assuming because it shows it being a mobile device vs. desktop.
The default rom pushes all tethering through pcweb.tmobile.com which depending on your rate plan, determines if you get tether access. custom roms shouldn't have this setup.
I also have a Nexus 7 and the unlimited plan. I'm rooted on the S1 (no ROMs loaded yet) and am now trying to figure out where to go from here.
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I also have a Nexus 7 and the unlimited plan. I'm rooted on the S1 (no ROMs loaded yet) and am now trying to figure out where to go from here.
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You can try a new APN. Menu->Settings->More->Mobile Networks->APN or Access Point Names->Menu->New APN
Name it whatever you want and set the APN to epc.tmobile.com. this should bypass tmobile's tethering block.
Also, I've noticed that even if rooted, a desktop using ie, safari or chrome still gets blocked, but Firefox does not.
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I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?
I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?
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I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?
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I used the old one and it seem like it was getting a fail on accessing the wifi (when looking at the log).
When I use 3.0beta, everything loaded fine in the log... but when my laptop connected I get the yellow yield sign and no internet signal supposedly. let me download the latest one from your link and see what happens
what settings are you using? I just tried again and same problem. I tried connecting with my Iconia tab and it just kept saying "Obtaining IP address" and didn't do anything.
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nevermind, got it to work. keep playing with the settings.
Device Profile: AUTO
Setup Method: AUTO
Enable Wifi Encryption: CHECK
Change Channel: 01
Wifi Driver Reload: CHECK
Routing Fix: CHECK
Disable Wake Lock: CHECK
sj808 said:
I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I thought T-Mobile charges a *fee* to your account when using that app?
See this support discussion: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/6272
Also, go try and sign-up for a new plan on T-Mobile and check out this add-on service I've screen-capped...
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?
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Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?
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No monthy fee for the app itself. You can have it but without a data plan or a wifi it won't connect. I'm not sure if it would run on another phone as a droid x etc.
. I could try to find the apk and let you try it?
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I got the wireless tether app to work already.. so I'll just use that.
ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.
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ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.
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Errrrr...
Not calling your integrity into question, but I wouldn't believe this for a second. T-Mobile is a business and it doesn't seem likely that they would give their services away for free when they have an explicit add-on service they charge for.
Why run the risk when you can *easily* just install the Android Wifi Tether app and use that service a bit further off of T-Mobile's radar? It just seems far, far safer.
Just use Barnacle to wifi tether.
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Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?
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Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?
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It works with my android tablet (nook color) and all my Macs, so not sure what to tell ya.
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
Techlvr said:
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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Barnacle works and it won't alert T-Mobile.
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Techlvr said:
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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This has been happening to me for a while, I even started a thread about it, but no one responded....if you change your user agent to the same one your phone uses, then you will be fine, but it will take you to the mobile version of some sites.
Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?
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Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?
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Yes I have tried Barnacle several times, and it will still direct me to the the Tmobile warning screen....but if you just change your user agent on what ever you are trying to tether to (computer, tablet, ect..) change it to the same one on your phone, and the stock app and 3rd party apps work fine, but occasionally it will take you to a mobile version of the site you are trying to view.
This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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Yep, don't use the t-mobile tether app download wifi tether for root users from the market and use that. I'm assuming you are rooted?
Yea I'm rooted lol I've tried 3 tethring apps off the market and they had the same result as the built in one. I can't find the one your talking about tho. All I'm finding is the ones I already tried.
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I used pda net but u got to pay the pro to used https websites so no fb or gmail etc
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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No they changed it all its an added feature now. I got wifi tethering for root users tho. So I think everyone should get it maybe have it included in roms too seeing as tmobile are being cheap *****es now
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
Networks are greedy they suck.
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
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A lot of the android browsers are able to set user agent as desktop so I doubt it's that. They have blocked the free tether apps from the market and only provide theirs so I think it's just them monitoring their app.
BTW I'm jealous of your free tethering, as soon as the carriers heard people were doing it here they were quick to monopolize on it
Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
Have you tried sneaking one of the third party apps on to see how it works?
That's staggeringly awful. This is the most featureful cell phone plan available, and it's $40. I'm told that people in another province got the plan for $35 at one point.
Yeah we have to side load the apps, google search and download from the browser. I've had a copy in my sd card since the g1 days when things were good lol.
We also have at&t trying to buy out t-mobile which would more than likely drive prices up further. there are a few pay as you go carriers that offer cheaper plans for unlimitted data and text (around $40) but the minutes are rarely unlimited, the data is slower, and they are buying towers off the bigger companies so coverage is usually terrible
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've always gotten Wireless Tether straight from the Google Code site. It always has the very latest versions, but somtimes earlier ones are the more stable.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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Yeah that's the only way you can get a good deal, if you have several lines on an account. Unfortunately us americans aren't into the whole "sharing" thing so finding people to sign up with you tends to be difficult ;P
What?
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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The way tmobile explained it to me was they noticed ppl using it and changed their service if your using it and not getting the message its only a matter of time according to the reps I spoke to. I'm thinking the more data you use that gets picked up as being sent through mobile ap the quicker they catch on and slap you with the message and put a stop to it
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So I'm still getting the tmobile page when I tether to my computer even when using wif tether for root users... this sucks :-/
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EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default.
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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I'm on T-mobile prepaid monthly 4g plan, rooted running GingerClone ROM on my Sidekick 4g, and I've had no problem tethering. (mostly just testing it out to see if it works, running speed tests etc.)
I can see how T-mobile cracks down on post-paid plans running stock software, but with a prepaid plan on a wifi-sharing-capable phone with a custom ROM, I'm in the clear, right? T-mobile can't block tethering or charge me for it?
But ya, charging $14.99 to tether using data that you're already paying for is a complete scam. Seems like a class action suit waiting to happen.
I got a text msg from T-mobile this morning informing me that MY tethering access has been blocked. They want me to pay $14.00 dollars more a month for me to use my data how i want to (I currently pay $140 for unlimited talk/text and 10gb of data.) To me, this is ridiculous. Is there a work around for this? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you on the stock ROM?
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I am on the latest CM7 Nightly.
try using one of these http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list you will have to try the different versions. I am using the latest version on CM7 and have no problems tethering. Now i do only have 5gb of data and most likely do not tether anywhere close to you do since you have the 10gb package. I have heard that if you are using the tethering under the network settings T-Mobile has away to find out. Now i am not sure if that is just with the stock rom or all roms. Give it a try you never know. All carriers charge for tethering not just T-Mobile or i think they do. So if you have to pay you have to pay.
How often do you tether, how long do you tether, and what are you doing when you tether?
interesting.. I tether daily for I'd say at least 2 hours total. hell I'm tethered right now. guess ill keep an eye out for that text.
Is your tethering actually being blocked?
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I tether constantly for hours at a time daily.
Ok, so this is really weird. I can tether without issue when using Crome, but when i try to surf out using firefox, im forced to t-mobile's tether page. So it seems to be browser specific. It just so happens that i do web chats using firefox while tethering.
How many gigabytes do you use per month?
About 10gb per.... Why?
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About 10gb per.... Why?
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Because "unlimited" isn't really unlimited. Although you say your plan allows 10GB per month, and you say you are using "about" 10GB, which is kinda vague?
For example, 10.1GB is not "about" 10GB if it's over your limit. To T-Mobile, 10.14GB can add an additional $14 per month
Mobile providers use words in the contract like "abuse", "unusual activity", and other such words. You don't seem to know exactly how much you are using per month, but it's a sure bet you are either going over 10GB or most probably you are tethering in a way that makes T-Mobile suspect unusual activity.
For example, most users use their mobile data bandwidth in spurts, but sustained data transfers gets T-Mobile's attention and can be labelled "unusual activity". It puts a load on T-Mobile's network. By contract, anything you do that affects T-Mobile's overall service will cause T-Mobile to take action.
If you are filesharing over tethering, that is sustained data activity and T-Mobile will know and penalize you for it.
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Because "unlimited" isn't really unlimited. Although you say your plan allows 10GB per month, and you say you are using "about" 10GB, which is kinda vague?
For example, 10.1GB is not "about" 10GB if it's over your limit. To T-Mobile, 10.14GB can add an additional $14 per month
Mobile providers use words in the contract like "abuse", "unusual activity", and other such words. You don't seem to know exactly how much you are using per month, but it's a sure bet you are either going over 10GB or most probably you are tethering in a way that makes T-Mobile suspect unusual activity.
For example, most users use their mobile data bandwidth in spurts, but sustained data transfers gets T-Mobile's attention and can be labelled "unusual activity". It puts a load on T-Mobile's network. By contract, anything you do that affects T-Mobile's overall service will cause T-Mobile to take action.
If you are filesharing over tethering, that is sustained data activity and T-Mobile will know and penalize you for it.
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Excellent response couldnt have said it better myself. Becareful with the "abuse" of the data, i have a buddy of mine that was FORCED to have a 2gb plan. Yet again he is on att lol
Along with the above statements, I did a bit of research before I started tethering on CM7.
Put simply, you can tether all you want as long as you don't go over the data cap. The only reason you've received that message is because you went over.
T-Mobile has no special way to tell you're tethering on the G2x. They can on the SGSII, Amaze, LG MyTouch series, and a few other of the newest phones that are programmed in the tethering code to use an entirely different APN similar to the way that iPhones do. The G2x, however, does nothing of the sort.
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Along with the above statements, I did a bit of research before I started tethering on CM7.
Put simply, you can tether all you want as long as you don't go over the data cap...
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Wrong.
Even if you are under the data cap if you show long sustained data activity such as filesharing, T-Mobile will penalize you for it.
JaiaV said:
T-Mobile has no special way to tell you're tethering on the G2x.
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Yes they can tell. Any child can tell if the connection is tethered simply by looking at the HTTP headers!
Tethering to a tablet
Ok. I just got a Toshiba thrive for Christmas. Is tethering to that seen any different? Just curious seeing as it's an Android device. I only Tether in spurts so I don't use a **** ton of data during(no file sharing). Thanks.
EEngineer said:
Wrong.
Even if you are under the data cap if you show long sustained data activity such as filesharing, T-Mobile will penalize you for it.
Yes they can tell. Any child can tell if the connection is tethered simply by looking at the HTTP headers!
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The only way they can tell is by user agent string and that requires someone actually looking, which isn't usually being done...
I wireless tether to my laptop 4 hrs and sometime more everyday. I play games on facebook. I have a pre-paid 5 GB data, unlimited talk and txt for $70 a month and I have yet to be block since I changed to it. I did however get blocked when I was on a regular plan as I hit 2gb of the 5gb I had. I did the same amount of tethering then as I do know.
So why then and not now, I really couldn't tell you.
If you're using 10 gb a month, you're doing more than social browsing or facebook apps. Stop downloading the movies and music and you will see a difference. 10 gb? Really?
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So I just got t989 and I wanted to tether but now I'm forced to pay, I use to have sgs4g and tethering was free. So do I have to just root or install a custom ROM to avoid adding tethering option to my plan
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JaiaV said:
The only way they can tell is by user agent string and that requires someone actually looking, which isn't usually being done...
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Nope. Wrong.
Not just the user-agent string, but the entire HTTP headers. You can examine the packets also and learn a lot (is it a TCP or UDP? Is it FTP or HTTP?)
These things are done automatically by monitoring software.
Stop making **** up.
If I use this rom HyperNonSense-v2.4 is tethering free or will I have to pay for it.
It should be free up to a point. Now what tat point is is really up to your carrier. If you are T-Mobile USA it will be free as long as you do not surpass the 2 GIG or 5 GIG soft cap you have depending on your data plan. But if you go over the soft cap the will try to make you pay extra for tethering. Now as far as other carriers go I can not give you any info on them as I am not familiar with any other carrier's policy.
T-Macgnolia said:
It should be free up to a point. Now what tat point is is really up to your carrier. If you are T-Mobile USA it will be free as long as you do not surpass the 2 GIG or 5 GIG soft cap you have depending on your data plan. But if you go over the soft cap the will try to make you pay extra for tethering. Now as far as other carriers go I can not give you any info on them as I am not familiar with any other carrier's policy.
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Well I have T-Mobile USA and I figured if I went over 2 gb they would just slow my internet down instead of charge me.
ruffrider5956 said:
Well I have T-Mobile USA and I figured if I went over 2 gb they would just slow my internet down instead of charge me.
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Yes the will throttle/ slow your internet down bit if you do it more then onscreen they will probably monitor your device and see you are tethering and then notify you that you should purchase the tethering service (which just gives you more data). Now after this notification they will probably continue to monitor your de ice and after you continue to tether they will probably hit you with a tethering fee.
But do not worry too much as I used my HD2 for months as my home internet connection and barely e Dr got close to using 2 GIGs of data. Then again though I do not have 3g or 4g service at my home either so it would have been hard for me to use so much data tethering. So my best advice is to heavily monitor your data usage and not go over. Also if you get a notification via text message or other means from T-Mobile about tethering I would hold off on tethering for a little while.
Ok thanks for the advice. How do they actually know your tethering?
ruffrider5956 said:
Ok thanks for the advice. How do they actually know your tethering?
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I think they monitor the IP addresses or some how monitor your device for other devices connected to it or something. I read about it like a your or more back and can not really remember.
T-Macgnolia said:
I think they monitor the IP addresses or some how monitor your device for other devices connected to it or something. I read about it like a your or more back and can not really remember.
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dang sneaky son of a guns lol alright thanks for your help.
yeah this happened to me last august. I started doing alot of tethering, i quickly went over my 5gb and was throttled down to a crawl. The next billing cycle i was tethering again and even before i got to my 5gb limit, any website that i tried to goto would be redirected to a tmobile site telling me i have to sign up for a tethering plan to continue to tether.
el7145 said:
yeah this happened to me last august. I started doing alot of tethering, i quickly went over my 5gb and was throttled down to a crawl. The next billing cycle i was tethering again and even before i got to my 5gb limit, any website that i tried to goto would be redirected to a tmobile site telling me i have to sign up for a tethering plan to continue to tether.
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So, did u sign up or have a work around?
galaxys said:
So, did u sign up or have a work around?
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no never needed to get a work around bc i signed back up for home internet a couple weeks later...they were charging $15/month for their tethering plan which i think is real good considering the price of home cable internet. Of course this tethering plan would only be good for basic web browsing
For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW
One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.
I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`
Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work
Herc08 said:
Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.
Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.
[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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