Help please - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

So I was trying to flash Beans 14 and it was hanging for a long time. I pulled the battery, but now it won't boot into TWRP. It I try to boot it just hangs. When i plug in the phone to the computer it keeps vibrating every 3 seconds.
Is this a soft brick? How do i fix this?
Thanks.
EDIT. I can boot into download mode though
Edit 2: seems like synergy is still installed, but I still can't get into twrp. The phone is trying to boot into it.

cuban11182 said:
So I was trying to flash Beans 14 and it was hanging for a long time. I pulled the battery, but now it won't boot into TWRP. It I try to boot it just hangs. When i plug in the phone to the computer it keeps vibrating every 3 seconds.
Is this a soft brick? How do i fix this?
Thanks.
EDIT. I can boot into download mode though
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Odin back to stock and start over.

Can you point me in the direction of the guide?
Looking in the meantime.
Edit: Following #6 in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Please let me know if that is the wrong one.

cuban11182 said:
Can you point me in the direction of the guide?
Looking in the meantime.
Edit: Following #6 in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Please let me know if that is the wrong one.
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That's it. Good luck. lol

Thanks for that.
GOD I HATE AT&T DSL! I wish we had other options in my apartment!

cuban11182 said:
Thanks for that.
GOD I HATE AT&T DSL! I wish we had other options in my apartment!
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I have ATT Uverse and it works fine. lol

I live in Corpus Christi and I only get about 3MB. We use Netflix instead of using regular cable, and the wife is watching some TV. Still have 12 more minutes on the stock image download.
Plan is to re-root, unlock bootloader, and reinstall Synergy.
That is if all this works...
Thanks again for your help.

No problem

Brother if you are ever in CC let me know. Beers are on me!

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Phone stuck at startup screen

I was trying to get the kd1 modem on my phone, but it caused my phone to start force closing everything. i had to reinstall the ext converter and then bionix, but once i finished doing this, the phone is stuck on the galaxy s screen. i can't even get into recovery mode. i know i need to use odin, but i do not know how to use it. is there any quick way to fix this? i need this phone to be fixed tomorrow because i have an interview!!! i know that there are other threads out there, but i cant seem to find them (search is down from 1230??) and i need a quick answer. thanks so much
quick fix = odin. it's not hard to use, just read the thread.
jager555 said:
I was trying to get the kd1 modem on my phone, but it caused my phone to start force closing everything. i had to reinstall the ext converter and then bionix, but once i finished doing this, the phone is stuck on the galaxy s screen. i can't even get into recovery mode. i know i need to use odin, but i do not know how to use it. is there any quick way to fix this? i need this phone to be fixed tomorrow because i have an interview!!! i know that there are other threads out there, but i cant seem to find them (search is down from 1230??) and i need a quick answer. thanks so much
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To ODIN, hold down both the UP and DOWN volume buttons until a screen which says "downloading" comes up.
Once that comes up, connect the phone and proceed to flash KD1 Deodexed. If you need a fast download link, go to http://cyclopscomputers.com/gs4g
I'll have a fast download link for it within the next ten minutes. Either that, or go here and download it.
For an ODIN guide, look here.
If you have any questions you can PM or email me at [email protected]
adobrakic said:
quick fix = odin. it's not hard to use, just read the thread.
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Search wasn't working for him, that's why he can't find the thread. He could've used google, though.
thank you so much. i didnt know that the search option was disabled for certain hours. i should have used google, sorry about that. the problem i am having is that i cannot even get into download mode, which is weird. i'll try to follow the steps listed on the links. once again, thank you for the quick response.
jager555 said:
thank you so much. i didnt know that the search option was disabled for certain hours. i should have used google, sorry about that. the problem i am having is that i cannot even get into download mode, which is weird. i'll try to follow the steps listed on the links. once again, thank you for the quick response.
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You don't have access to any parts required for the JIG do you?
I believe this is the correct guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551
Note, the faster download link is now posted on my site, http://www.cyclopscomputers.com/gs4g. It's listed as KD1 by Whitehawkx.
danstheman7 said:
You don't have access to any parts required for the JIG do you?
I believe this is the correct guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551
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i dont have access to most of those parts.
jager555 said:
i dont have access to most of those parts.
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Ah yeah, I didn't really think you would, 99% of us don't :\
er....take out your SIM and memory card.
take out the battery, leave it for a few seconds, and put it back in.
Then try to get into download mode again, with only the battery in.
wont get into download mode no matter what I do. this is just bad timing for me. i tried to use odin, and even though it recognizes the phone, it is stuck on "SetupConnection" and wont do anything else.
jager555 said:
wont get into download mode no matter what I do. this is just bad timing for me. i tried to use odin, and even though it recognizes the phone, it is stuck on "SetupConnection" and wont do anything else.
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It usually does that when either a SIM or an SD card is in.
Remove both, put yourself into download mode again, and restart ODIN.
right. i removed both the sim and the sd card. then i left the battery off for a few minutes and attempted to restart and go into download mode. the only thing that happens is that the phone shows the galaxy s 4g startup screen and then reboots...always cycling that screen. thanks for all of the help, btw. i really appreciate it.
jager555 said:
right. i removed both the sim and the sd card. then i left the battery off for a few minutes and attempted to restart and go into download mode. the only thing that happens is that the phone shows the galaxy s 4g startup screen and then reboots...always cycling that screen. thanks for all of the help, btw. i really appreciate it.
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No problem :]
And didn't you say you got as far as ODIN though?
"it is stuck on "SetupConnection""
yes, it says that in odin. but its still stuck on the galaxy s 4g startup screen. i never got into download mode.
jager555 said:
yes, it says that in odin. but its still stuck on the galaxy s 4g startup screen. i never got into download mode.
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For the phone to say that in ODIN, it has to be in download mode.
It's quite possible that the phone is in download mode yet the screen doesn't say it.
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finally fixed it. it got into download mode using the second method on this post and was able to flash with odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069032
THANK YOU for all of your help with this. all of your help is very appreciated.

[Q] completely dead ns last resort please help

i flashed ics ota update along with superuser zip and all was fine, ics was running perfectly along with root access. google wallet kept forceclosing so i uninstalled it. then i decided i wanted it back to see if i could fix it. without thinking i rebooted to recovery and reflashed the update and su. when i rebooted the phone shut down and wont restart, its completey dead. it wont charge or boot at all. after thinking about it i realize i shouldnt have flashed it since i was already on 4.0 and the update was from 2.3.6 to 4.0. can anyone help me or am i screwed. please help!
Dont know if it is bricked or what, but this may help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397393
but yeah that sucks, good luck
swamp goblin said:
Dont know if it is bricked or what, but this may help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397393
but yeah that sucks, good luck
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tried that but i get some theme error
Can you get to the bootloader?
From off, Power + VOL-UP. If you get the bootloader screen w/4 options, youre phone is not bricked.
nickmv said:
Can you get to the bootloader?
From off, Power + VOL-UP. If you get the bootloader screen w/4 options, youre phone is not bricked.
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no does not power on at all and will not charge
OK got it to boot using unbrickable resurrector everything works great but if I power off or reboot its unresponsive again. Anyone know how to make it stick from terminal emulator. Haven't had any luck with adb or fastboot from my computer and would like to use terminal. Please help, soon close!
Sent from my Nexus S
Try flash a stock full ROM.
Si_NZ said:
Try flash a stock full ROM.
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how? Can I do it through terminal, because I cant power off or reboot to recovery.
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Pm sent...
Everything fixed......thanks
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Please explain how you did it. I bought my phone outright and am scared to brick it.. can be us s be bricked. Can I use a Samsung jig to put in download mode since it is a Samsung Google phone??
Sent from MY Google Nexus S
navykid0211 said:
Please explain how you did it. I bought my phone outright and am scared to brick it.. can be us s be bricked. Can I use a Samsung jig to put in download mode since it is a Samsung Google phone??
Sent from MY Google Nexus S
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The nexus s is pretty hard to permanently brick, but can be a pain depending how bad it is. This time was bad for me. I had already flashed the ics update and flashed superuser zip and all was fine except Google wallet. I uninstalled it with titanium but had second thoughts , so I decided to flash the update again. I know better but just wasn't thinking. The update was from 2.3.6 to 4.0 and since I was already on 4.0 it really screwed it up. It wouldn't do anything absolutely nothing. Apparently the bootloader , boot, and recovery images were completely gone. I did some searching and found unbrickable resurrector. Only problem was it only worked on Linux. So I had to make my laptop duel boot Ubuntu and windows. Ubuntu for unbrickable resurrector and windows for adb/fastboot. Although it sounds rather easy it took about 2 days till I finally figured it all out. I could probably do it now in 30 minutes. And a jig would most likely work but I wouldn't know where to get one. Anyway the resurrector allowed me to boot into fastboot mode and adb/fastboot allowed me to reflash the lost images. Thank God that's over!
Sent from my Nexus S

[Q] Skyrocket phone stuck onSamsung Logo

Hi all,
My Samsung Galaxy phone is stuck on the Samsung boot up logo. I shut off the phone and it starts up again to the Samsung logo again. I am rooted but still had the stock rom and kernel.
I went to selections and wiped my cache and tried to format it like a new phone. The same thing still happens. I am not sure what else to do. Anyone know how to fix this?
Keep the instructions simple please, if you do know. (I'm a desperate noob)
Thanks for any help.
IF you ever did nandroid than just restore that otherwise.........
Hey first follow this steps to flash any rom. If you flash the rom properly than you can use any stock rom from dev section and use that.
OR
follow this step to go back to stock and it will unroot you.
Vman7765 said:
Hi all,
My Samsung Galaxy phone is stuck on the Samsung boot up logo. I shut off the phone and it starts up again to the Samsung logo again. I am rooted but still had the stock rom and kernel.
I went to selections and wiped my cache and tried to format it like a new phone. The same thing still happens. I am not sure what else to do. Anyone know how to fix this?
Keep the instructions simple please, if you do know. (I'm a desperate noob)
Thanks for any help.
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Great, I'm downloading the drivers now. My phone was working perfectly. Do you know what may have caused this? Thanks.
I am not sure why it happened but it looks like u cleared cache so that might be the problem. IDK
Vman7765 said:
Great, I'm downloading the drivers now. My phone was working perfectly. Do you know what may have caused this? Thanks.
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Rocketing on Sky Ics¡
I'm back up and running. If I want to change my rom and kernel, what do you recommend? I midas well do everything now, while I am on work mode. Thanks for your help.
first of all to show that you appreciate my help please hit that thnx button. I am running Sky Ice Rom which is deeply themed rom with faux123's kernel.
Vman7765 said:
I'm back up and running. If I want to change my rom and kernel, what do you recommend? I midas well do everything now, while I am on work mode. Thanks for your help.
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NP thanks for your help. I spammed that button as much as I could lol.
Same Problem
My problem is that my Rogers SGSII LTE I727R, is stuck on the logo screen, which is flashing the boot screen. When I connect the USB (even after install of Kies and Odin), my PC does not see the device. I am really not sure what to do. I think I set the wrong phone ID when I installed recovery (I think I was supposed to use the T-Mobil SGSII setting), but I selected something else. I then tried to backup the existing ROM, and am now in this unending loop. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
Follow these steps it will help you go back to stock. ANd reroot your phone.
Barlaw604 said:
My problem is that my Rogers SGSII LTE I727R, is stuck on the logo screen, which is flashing the boot screen. When I connect the USB (even after install of Kies and Odin), my PC does not see the device. I am really not sure what to do. I think I set the wrong phone ID when I installed recovery (I think I was supposed to use the T-Mobil SGSII setting), but I selected something else. I then tried to backup the existing ROM, and am now in this unending loop. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
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I did try the main process, but the problem seems to be that the my PC/Odin, don't see my phone. The USB drivers are installed, and I have the stock rom, but I can't seem to make the connection.
Barlaw604 said:
I did try the main process, but the problem seems to be that the my PC/Odin, don't see my phone. The USB drivers are installed, and I have the stock rom, but I can't seem to make the connection.
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Try a different USB port. Avoid rear ports and hubs.
OK, i will try that on a different computer, as I have tried all of the available ports on my laptop. Any other thoughts?
Barlaw604 said:
I did try the main process, but the problem seems to be that the my PC/Odin, don't see my phone. The USB drivers are installed, and I have the stock rom, but I can't seem to make the connection.
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Have you uninstalled kies? If not uninstall it from your PC. Put your phone in download mode and see if Odin can see the phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
Barlaw604 said:
I did try the main process, but the problem seems to be that the my PC/Odin, don't see my phone. The USB drivers are installed, and I have the stock rom, but I can't seem to make the connection.
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Try another USB port or another computer. If you can get the logo you are in a boot loop, the most common form of a soft brick. If you can get into download mode you should be able to fix it.
---------- Post added at 04:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------
Barlaw604 said:
OK, i will try that on a different computer, as I have tried all of the available ports on my laptop. Any other thoughts?
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Just saw this. Have you tried to re-install the drivers?
Another thought is to try turning off firewall and antivirus when using Odin. I've never had my firewall or antivirus block Odin but I've heard it can happen...
Can you get into download mode? Hold the two volume buttons down, then plug the usb cable into your phone, then you should be in download mode.
I cannot get into download mode. I just keep getting the flashing boot screen, with the corresponding vibration.
mimart7 said:
Can you get into download mode? Hold the two volume buttons down, then plug the usb cable into your phone, then you should be in download mode.
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What he said. Pull the battery and put it back in. Hold volume up/down and plug in USB. Continue holding volume buttons until you see download mode. Careful not to press the power button during this process.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
I like how u guys are really trying to help him. Let u guys know that on my first responce I gave him all the steps on how to go back to stock. So if he followed that and nothing happened than he should try USB jig if that don't work than its hard brick!!
Rocketing on Sky Ics¡
Barlaw604 said:
I cannot get into download mode. I just keep getting the flashing boot screen, with the corresponding vibration.
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Don't panic. If you're in a boot loop it's fixable. It's when you get nothing that you need to worry about a hard brick.
Try the button combo mentioned above to get into download mode. If that doesn't work, pull the battery again and try using just the volume down button button--I've heard people say this worked for them when they had a hard time.
If this doesn't get you into download mode, I guarantee you that a jig will work. You can buy one online or make one yourself for about 75 cents and a cut-up data cable (I had a car charger that I didn't need--car charges the phone through USB port, so I cut that one up). Always good to have a jig, at any rate...
skrambled said:
Don't panic. If you're in a boot loop it's fixable. It's when you get nothing that you need to worry about a hard brick.
Try the button combo mentioned above to get into download mode. If that doesn't work, pull the battery again and try using just the volume down button button--I've heard people say this worked for them when they had a hard time.
If this doesn't get you into download mode, I guarantee you that a jig will work. You can buy one online or make one yourself for about 75 cents and a cut-up data cable (I had a car charger that I didn't need--car charges the phone through USB port, so I cut that one up). Always good to have a jig, at any rate...
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Yup, when I rooted my phone, the only way I could get it into download was volume DOWN & power.
Sent from my SGH-I727R using xda premium

[Q] Cold boot VGS3 into recovery mode?

I flashed a few roms and lost my 4G. When I reloaded my ICS OS to root66 via Odin I messed something up and am now stuck at 4G LTE load screen. I am hoping there is a way to cold boot into recovery mode (not Odin flash mode) so I can just do a factory reset. If there is no way to do that I am open to suggestions. I have re-loaded the root66 image 4 times and loaded a stock image twice to no avail. Thank you in advance to any help I get.
try doing home button and volume up?
fr8cture said:
try doing home button and volume up?
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I could kiss you... every time I googled for it every result was for frigin clockwork.
Haha your welcome
and now that you "say" it it seems so obvious too.
Yes... I'm back at setup screen.
I'll stop humping your leg but I owe you a beer.
omnipanzer said:
and now that you "say" it it seems so obvious too.
Yes... I'm back at setup screen.
I'll stop humping your leg but I owe you a beer.
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Im only 19
oh um....
Is there a way to mark the thread as resolved or do we just let it die?
you can ask a mod to close it if you want.
Re-loaded my root66 and it booted fine again... now if I can just get my 4G back.
If you go through the setup wizard on a touchwiz rom it should say your phone is activated and 4g should come back.

[Q] Possibly bricked phone

I had no idea where else to go for help I have a vzw gs3 and wanted to install a custom rom. When I was trying to flash the bootloader which I was doing following this video youtube .com/watch?v=K4b9hcWHrW8#t=155 after I did the first bootloader unlock step my phone did not restart and now is just black. Nothing happens when i plug it in or hold power button. Please help I do not have the money for a replacement phone and i figured this would be my first place to try for help. Also i have installed custom roms before and it worked fine just never on a phone. Sorry for the space in the link it wouldn't let me post with it because i am a new user.
mitchh718 said:
I had no idea where else to go for help I have a vzw gs3 and wanted to install a custom rom. When I was trying to flash the bootloader which I was doing following this video youtube .com/watch?v=K4b9hcWHrW8#t=155 after I did the first bootloader unlock step my phone did not restart and now is just black. Nothing happens when i plug it in or hold power button. Please help I do not have the money for a replacement phone and i figured this would be my first place to try for help. Also i have installed custom roms before and it worked fine just never on a phone. Sorry for the space in the link it wouldn't let me post with it because i am a new user.
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You probably hard bricked it.
Can you boot into recovery or download mode?
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mitchh718 said:
I had no idea where else to go for help I have a vzw gs3 and wanted to install a custom rom. When I was trying to flash the bootloader which I was doing following this video youtube .com/watch?v=K4b9hcWHrW8#t=155 after I did the first bootloader unlock step my phone did not restart and now is just black. Nothing happens when i plug it in or hold power button. Please help I do not have the money for a replacement phone and i figured this would be my first place to try for help. Also i have installed custom roms before and it worked fine just never on a phone. Sorry for the space in the link it wouldn't let me post with it because i am a new user.
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Have you tried booting into download or recovery mode? Here's how http://www.knowtechbetter.net/how-t...-download-mode-on-samsung-galaxy-s3-tutorial/
If you can get into download mode I would odin back to stock and then use this tool to root, unlock the bootloader, and flash a custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
As for why your phone won't turn on or anything I'm not really sure. My best guess would to take out the battery and plug the phone in without the battery to see if anything happens, and then put the battery back in.
BadUsername said:
You probably hard bricked it.
Can you boot into recovery or download mode?
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No is there no fix for a bricked one
mitchh718 said:
No is there no fix for a bricked one
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There are options here.
Use this method, but you need a class 10 external SD card with the exact same size as your internal card, and you need to follow the directions exactly, it should work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45595912
Other option is you can send it into somebody for a jtag repair, mobile tech videos will do it for $60 I think, either way you go you won't be buying a new phone.
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JennyLikesSka said:
Have you tried booting into download or recovery mode? Here's how http://www.knowtechbetter.net/how-t...-download-mode-on-samsung-galaxy-s3-tutorial/
If you can get into download mode I would odin back to stock and then use this tool to root, unlock the bootloader, and flash a custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
As for why your phone won't turn on or anything I'm not really sure. My best guess would to take out the battery and plug the phone in without the battery to see if anything happens, and then put the battery back in.
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I'm hoping this is a good sign I took out the battery and plugged it in the red light comes up then goes away after 10 or 15 seconds.
mitchh718 said:
I'm hoping this is a good sign I took out the battery and plugged it in the red light comes up then goes away after 10 or 15 seconds.
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It was a guess suggestion. I would try booting into download mode or any mode with the battery out. But if you can get something to happen to show you're phone isn't completely broken I would leave the battery in and just let in charge for a little while.
Can you get to the charging animation the phone makes it's charging while it's off?
And have your tried putting the battery back in while the red light is on?
(again these are just suggestions, I've only soft bricked my phone twice so idk if it will work for you)
JennyLikesSka said:
It was a guess suggestion. I would try booting into download mode or any mode with the battery out. But if you can get something to happen to show you're phone isn't completely broken I would leave the battery in and just let in charge for a little while.
Can you get to the charging animation the phone makes it's charging while it's off?
And have your tried putting the battery back in while the red light is on?
(again these are just suggestions, I've only soft bricked my phone twice so idk if it will work for you)
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Still no luck booting and no animation and no luck putting the battery back in.
mitchh718 said:
Still no luck booting and no animation and no luck putting the battery back in.
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My last idea would be to just try different combinations of having the battery in and out, when you put it back in, having it plugged into the wall and computer, and trying to boot into any of the 3 boot modes. Otherwise I have no idea, but when in doubt just try everything.
mitchh718 said:
I'm hoping this is a good sign I took out the battery and plugged it in the red light comes up then goes away after 10 or 15 seconds.
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This is a classic sign of a hard brick...
To make sure, when you plug it into your computer, what does it recognize it as?
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BadUsername said:
This is a classic sign of a hard brick...
To make sure, when you plug it into your computer, what does it recognize it as?
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It doesn't recognize it but i just went and got a sd card so I'm about to start that.
mitchh718 said:
It doesn't recognize it but i just went and got a sd card so I'm about to start that.
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Let me know how it works, you need to use that thread along with the sprint thread linked. But you need to use the Verizon specific files, he also posted a helpful video also.
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BadUsername said:
Let me know how it works, you need to use that thread along with the sprint thread linked. But you need to use the Verizon specific files, he also posted a helpful video also.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5H8NJ7vTM can i follow this video?
mitchh718 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5H8NJ7vTM can i follow this video?
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Yes, that's the one.
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BadUsername said:
Yes, that's the one.
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Well i put the img on the sd card and my phone still wont do anything
mitchh718 said:
Well i put the img on the sd card and my phone still wont do anything
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Sometimes it takes repeated attempts, also are you following the sprint guide? You have to do it in a Linux environment, either the full os or a live CD of Ubuntu.
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BadUsername said:
Sometimes it takes repeated attempts, also are you following the sprint guide? You have to do it in a Linux environment, either the full os or a live CD of Ubuntu.
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I was not ill load up a live environment and try that.

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