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720p mkv on hd2 !

Hi !
Is there a player able to play mkv 720p files ? It doesn't matter if it drop down resolution to fix in the one of the monitor.
I have tried TMCP but it crash as I select the files, coreplayer instead said that it do not support ac3....I think that it would be nice to add ac3 support to core player..

Why go through all this trouble? Just reencode the movie or just get a normal DVD Rip. I don't think there is a player for WinMobile that can play 720p. It will look like crap anyway.

yea I knew that I could easily ttry with a standard format...but I think that the only problem with the core player is the ac3 audi..I think that it can manage the mkv video part...

I think the limitation is imposed by the OS, not the hardware. And I also think you won't find a 720p WinMobile video player. You're not the first one asking about this and surely you won't be the last one.

hd2 cant handle 720p video, I tried on an android build - vplayer alpha(something like that).
It was really laggy.

i don't get it why is anyone even thinking about this... as the native resolution of the HD2 is less than 720p.... it's like watching bluray discs on an hd ready tv set... u can do it... but you don't need it...

[Q] Can the Thunderbolt handle 720p HD video smoothly?

Howdy folks, hope some of you might have a few suggestions for a new Android guy.
After much love and consideration for the Android platform, I decided to come over to the Android world. Sold my iPhone 4 and picked myself up a Thunderbolt at the neighborhood Verizon store. So far, I love it. Great device, screen, customization and service. A world of difference from AT&T. However there is one lingering issue.
On my iPhone, I could send 720p direct from iTunes to the phone. It played smooth as silk, nary an issue, perfect.
With the Tbolt's fantastic size of screen, I would think it would be the perfect place for mobile HD video. However, when I take an mp4 onto the Tbolt, it chokes. The playback is varying levels of choppy, and audio often loses sync.
Am I doing something wrong? Is the Tbolt not capable of playing this type of file? I see a lot of talk on the forums about Froyo messing with 720 playback. I'm not sure what to do because aside from that one issue, I love the phone.
Any feedback/advice/info is appreciated. I love Android and so far the community rocks.
Signed,
Former iPhone User

i had the same problem. installed "vplayer advanced" and it was much better - no skipping, no sync issues. i think you just need to find a different player. the hardware should play them fine, but i havent tried a 5 gig 720p HD movie yet. and the default player wont play mkv files, but vplayer did.

You guys do realize the thunderbolt's screen is 800x480, which is a lower resolution than 720 (which you normally think of in terms of 1280x720 resolution). The horizontal scan lines on the thunderbolt (480) is the same as a standard definition television (640x480), so all you're getting is a placebo effect and a huge drain on your phone battery/resources.

yareally said:
You guys do realize the thunderbolt's screen is 800x480, which is a lower resolution than 720 (which you normally think of in terms of 1280x720 resolution). The horizontal scan lines on the thunderbolt (480) is the same as a standard definition television (640x480), so all you're getting is a placebo effect and a huge drain on your phone battery/resources.
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Totally understand this. However, for me its more an issue of ease of use. I don't want to convert videos 3 times because I have 3 devices, which was the nice thing about the iPhone/iTunes. One file, done.
Plus, I've downconverted the videos to test, sometimes they skip too, and they never look as good to me. Placebo effect maybe, but again the ease of use thing is the biggest importance to me. If the iPhone 4 can handle this kind of file, why shouldn't my Tbolt?

Problem is probably not the hardware (since the thunderbolt outdoes the iphone in this), it's probably the codecs on the phone not being adept enough to handle them or the developer of your media player not keeping up with certain advancements in android hardware.
Just for instance on a pc, coreAVC will work on really old computers for x264 hd movies (ive gotten it to run smooth on pentium centrinos), however, the built in codecs for something like VLC player (last I checked), couldnt handle a computer that old for rendering HD.
The other issue could be how well they (both the android os developers and the media player developers) take advantage of using the hardware to do all the heavy lifting in the decoding. If it's all being done with software (like VLC does by default on a pc), then that is going to kill the cpu. If it's leveraging the gpu in the phone to take some of the burden off the cpu (similar to what something like coreAVC does now on a pc with nvidia's cuda), then that would help immensely. If in fact android can leverage the gpu to handle things like video decoding, then the final issue is whether or not the developer of your chosen media player is taking advantage of that.
However, if it was some sort of hardware issue, it could be the read speed of the included sd cards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds. Try sticking a smaller video file directly in the internal storage of the phone and see if that makes a difference.
I haven't looked too far into the internals of the typical android phone and os yet, but coming from many years of linux and windows development for the web and desktop, those are just my thoughts on the issue.
Android OS 3.0 has an encoder built into it already for h264 avc, so that should take care of issues in the near future for converting your video. Whenever we get gingerbread finally (well 2.3.3 that is), we'll have vp8 decoder as well and that should run things much smoother as google built it themselves for html5 video streaming, so I'd hope it would run efficiently on android. I've read issues with people not being able to handle high res MP4 files on the inspire (the att's thunderbolt) so it doesnt overly surprise me you are as well. I assume they are h264/mp4 files, right? Perhaps try encoding to h263 if so or wmv
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html#core

Yeah your gonna have to Download a Video Player app that is Hardware accelerated and plays those kinds of Video Formats. Rockplayer should work too i think.

Been up all night loading my anime + tv shows on the bolt. I agree, i really don't want to be bothered with trans-coding everything i have, plus the bolt does has DLNA capabilities which is another plus if you have a server loaded with the proper media but chances are, those are 720p or better as well.
The best player i used so far is rock player, it beats out meridian, qq player, and vplayer advanced as is the only player that played back everything i threw at it. that said is not pefect, it drops frames when you try to playback 720p mp4 but still smooth for the most part. It lags a bit more with 720p mkv, and lags really bad with 720p avi files. Anything not using the native hardware decoder however, sucks a ton of battery life out the Bolt.
it will playback almost anything at 480p, which is about what the screen native resolution is at. The Bolt does come with a Adreno 205 gpu but i don't think that does anything for video acceleration, maybe is missing the proper hardware decoding chipset which is why is not armed with a HDMI port.
It should only get better with improvement in software/codec but for now, is a let down in terms of video playback.

Try Diceplayer 1.3.0
Thunderbolt's QSD8655 can play H.264 720p.
but HTC's stock media player can't handle MKV, DTS , Flac.
Diceplayer take advantage of hw decoder.
it can play MKV(+DTS+720p).
Don't worry about battery life. diceplayer use almost same power as stock player.

MoboPlayer with ARM V7_NEON coded plays everything fine.
http://www.moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html

For reasons stated earlier there does not seem to be any good solution that will handle all common formats used in a PC/Mac/Home theater system on a Tbolt without re-encoding. I posted a video player "shoot out" of sorts over on the "other" forum. In short I was completely let down by all the players I tested. There are a couple here I did not include at that time.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...layers-review-test-comparison-included-3.html
The only one I left on my device was MoboPlayer.
Don't bother with files larger then 4GB either, our SD cards do not support them (or was it the OS...). That being said a good 720p rip with 5 or 6 channels of audio (yes I know there are not enough speakers to hear them all - just so no re-encode required) should generally be smaller than 4 GB.
I am quite keen to hear about any diceplayer vs. MoboPlayer as I did not test diceplayer.

yumms said:
MoboPlayer with ARM V7_NEON coded plays everything fine.
http://www.moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
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Mobo or Rock or vital or QQPlayer can not play MKV(+DTS) HD.
dice is the best. dice use hw video decoder. no sw video decoding.

juami said:
Mobo or Rock or vital or QQPlayer can not play MKV(+DTS) HD.
dice is the best. dice use hw video decoder. no sw video decoding.
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I did some quick testing of diceplayer. It is no good. I used the same blend of file types, video formats, audio formats, files sizes and audio and video quality as my tests I posted about with the link to the other forum (prior post in this thread). Diceplayer was very bad. It played 1 out of 4 of the files I tested. Some played but had garbled audio or a very slow frame rate meaning effectively no successful play. I found Moboplayer to be slightly better than Diceplayer.
We really need an equivalent to VLC for Android. VLC as anyone can testify is the "swiss army knife" of players. Plex is the only app better than VLC in that it can output DTS and Dolby via optical (not concerns for a mobile device obviosuly). Who can or wants to re-encode a multi terabyte movie library?

[Q] How to play 720p/AC3 properly

From sd:
Whats the current common way to play 720p mkv with AC3 Audio.
I either get good video with no sound (hw decode) or choppy video with sound (sw decode)
i tried moboplayer, default player and rockplayer (i think)
the only player that plays it properly is diceplayer but its a 3 day trial.
Is there no easy way to play a 720p/ac3 video?
Streaming:
I have a 300mbit wireless at home, works perfectly with laptop<->desktop
No matter what i try with the eee pad, videoplayback is choppy when streaming it.
i tried mynet and those 2 other upnp clients that are out there using ps3mediaserver on my desktop (ushare, gmediaserver were not "seen" from the eee pad)
Whats the current common way to stream media?
Is there a way to play from nfs share at all? Or at least samba?
greetings
-dan

If you want to root your device, cifs is pretty common and reliable.
Revolver and Prime both include this feature as part of their rom. I don't have any experience with other roms.
Also, I switched to using mxplayer, i like how it has the ability to switch rendering modes from the play screen.

Thanks for the cif thingie, i am going to look that up.
MX player wont play ac3 audio in hw decode :/

For playback buy dice placer from the market. There is no better app for videos.
Streaming and watching HD videos is very difficult. Tegra 2's Videodecoder is very average at best. When you copy something to your device the android is using the cpu. For HD Videos with High Profile you need nearly all cpu power of the Tegra 2. When you streaming at the same time, you can run in performance and transfer problems because of the 1000Mhz. So you should overclock the cpu for a better experience.

[Q] How does the TF700 handle 1080p MKV files played from an SMB share?

Hey everyone. I recently bought a Nexus 10, only to find out that it can't play 720p, let alone 1080p mkv video files with hardware acceleration. So I've been looking into using the TF700 for playing video files shared over my local network. Does anyone have any experience with this? How does the TF700 handle 1080p mkv files? I've used BSPlayer on the N10, but I want to be able to actually watch 1080p videos. Thanks!

I use MX Player Pro because it's HW+ mode handles 1080p hi10 MKV videos; However, I typically copy files over before playing. I suppose as long as the connection is good enough you could use CIFS manager (Needs root, maybe additional drivers) to map the network share so that the tablet only sees it as another local folder if it's not able to play them through a network browser like ES file explorer.

ive watched 1080p videos from my PC using BS Player on my device. what was the issue?

I've been looking for the best way to setup the tf700t to play movies from my pc. Most seem to be a bit laggy or the sound goes out of sync. Is it due to the tf700t not having dual band capability? Is that something an update later on could fix, or is it hardware? Any advice you all have would be great. The fastest connection I get to my router is 65mbps, is that enough for HD videos?

Here is a vid of me streaming HD from my local network to my tablet. No lags or desyncs. I use cleanrom 2.7.2 and clemsyns 1.3.1.5 kernel. The BS Player is the only player that works for that :/
There must be an issue with your setup.

richarrp said:
I've been looking for the best way to setup the tf700t to play movies from my pc. Most seem to be a bit laggy or the sound goes out of sync. Is it due to the tf700t not having dual band capability? Is that something an update later on could fix, or is it hardware? Any advice you all have would be great. The fastest connection I get to my router is 65mbps, is that enough for HD videos?
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i have no issues streaming mkv from BS player. Sound syncs perfectly. I also have 65mbps

Hi,
I`ve found not only player is important.
Using normal ROM (rooted but not unlocked) I use Built-In player to play HD content. Also good choice will me MX Player.
Found some sync and delay issues but I know reason now...
It was not player issue, guilty was application with SMB/CIFS support.
Using now Solid Explorer Beta2 (v1.4.0 - last cracked version with license activation .apk file ---> available to download through BlackMarket apk
SMB or CIFS works great, all sync problems gone now, plays 1080p with high bitrate with no prob

Interesting, my TF700 is as stock as it comes (stock rom, no root), and I'm not able to play any 1080p mkv's over wifi (yes, connected @ 65mbps).
The combo Wifi + ES File Exporer + BS Player (HW decode modus) works for files up to 720p, but not for 1080p (not even 6gig files).
I'll give Solid Explorer a try (there's a 14-day trial version in the Play store) and see if that solves anything..
Ofcourse it plays the same files just fine from internal memory or (micro)SD card, it has the power.
If there are any more tips, I'd like to hear them for streaming 1080p mkv's Not quite ready to root although CIFS maanger would make life easier, won't it?

You can watch with bsplayer, it handles mkv files, i watched battleship in 1080p so it does work
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ray3andrei said:
i watched battleship in 1080p so it does work
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Over wifi?
I stream my re-encoded blurays in 1080p x264 mkv format with DTS, subtitle tracks and whatnot all over my network to laptops, mediaplayers, wired and wireless..
So I think it's not my network or my wireless router and/or my two other access points (objective was maximum wifi-speeds coverage in entire house).
I tried l3v's suggestion to access my files on the NAS with Solid Explorer instead of ES File Explorer and stream again using BS Player, but unfortunately no difference in jerkyness and framedrops when using ES File Explorer..
Maybe I should be looking at BS player settings (or perhaps WIFI settings)? Anyone care to share or are you just using default settings?
So I'm not sure what makes others stream without issues and I can't (but all other devices in the house can)... Kind of annoys me, makes me jealous :silly:

:good::good: for Dice Player, and VLC for my backup!
I use ES for all my everyday share access and Cleanrom ( even on ICS with Zeus worked nice! )
try that combo

Based in my experience with devices way slower than TF700 (so my experience might not translate), I've found it much easier to share my videos through a web site set up with IIS (Internet Information Server) which is free in many versions of Windows. MX Player handles http with ease (even for fast seeking), no username/password required (although supported), and http is a much better streaming protocol than SMB (Windows share), so if your network is slow or has many collisions it will perform a little better. If your Windows version doesn't include IIS, you can download XAMP (free) or better yet Cherokee (google cherokee web server), which is fast and lightweight.
JM2¢

SMB is highly un-optimized on android, It;s all going to depend on your bitrate(not your resolution). DLNA is a far more efficient mechanism for streaming on android.
If you are trying to stream full bitrate Blu-ray content I would avoid SMB.

[Q] Codecs...

I've come from a lot of Samsung devices, and I decided to jump that boat as soon as I was no longer able to install CM on the Note III.
I have a Samba/FTP server, and I like to stream videos from Samba to my phone, like all the time, like 90% of the videos are h.264 mkv. I used DicePlayer on my Note III to stream, and it was pretty awesome. When I tried this on my OPO, it wouldn't work, presumably because the OPO doesn't have the proper codecs, so I went to the settings in Diceplayer and changed the setting for mkv to play under "software player" instead of default; This worked, but I only got like 2 FPS, literally. So I rolled my eyes and went and got VLC. VLC can't open network folders, so I had to use some other obnoxious app to open the files. This works, but its so crappy compared to Diceplayer, it skips/stops every minute or so.
I am wondering if anyone knows any way that I can get it all working with Diceplayer, or if there is a better app that I can use that works just as well. I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but it seems to me that the OPO doesn't have the proper codecs, and Diceplayer doesn't work well enough with the phone that it can make up for lack of said codecs.

Try using MX player. It runs everything and can use hardware and software codecs. It can also stream from a network though I have never used that feature.

kokocabana said:
Try using MX player. It runs everything and can use hardware and software codecs. It can also stream from a network though I have never used that feature.
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I think I tried that one on my Note, it works, but its buggy, and to stream you have to open it via url which is annoying. But I will try it.

Hi, how it works?
I have problem with playing 720p .mkv movies (for example The.Flash.2014.S01E06.720p.HDTV.X265.mkv ).
It plays video slower than audio ( there is one second of audio freeze every five seconds). I have tried to install additional codecs, but it didn't help. It plays on SW decoder, HW/HW+ shows only error and switch to SW.
Also try to install VLC player, but it didn't work too.
480p mkv files are played ok, even via WiFi.
OPO and MX player are actual, phone isn't rooted.
Thanks for any advice

Install the necessary codecs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-custom-codec-dts-support-t2156254
That should fix any codec issues.
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