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There's a lot of discussion about docks for the Nexus One. Since budget is a big issue for a lot of us, why don't we resort to DIY solutions?
Please share your ideas in making a Nexus One DIY dock.
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Neat DIY solutions we have here so far
Business Card Holder http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5700465&postcount=41
Paper Cup http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5779280&postcount=42
iPhone 2G Dock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5801510&postcount=47
Cassette Case Dock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mj3s4ONvLY
Paper Clip Dock http://www.deanying.com/PermaLink,guid,a99a1c06-b55b-4001-afeb-46a707055ecc.aspx
Dollar Bill Dock (works for other currencies too ) http://www.androidhackz.net/2010/02/docking-station-for-a-buck/
Tissue Roll Dock http://bobbyjason.co.uk/blog/2010/02/nexus-one-andrex-dock/
Dough Dock http://bobbyjason.co.uk/blog/2010/02/green-android-desk-stand/
Lego Dock from 3gdo http://3dgo.net/2010/01/15/nexus-one-lego-dock/
Before breaking out the duct tape you might want to have a look at the 3rd party cradles on ebay.
Another option is the one dollar docking station
Volker1 said:
Before breaking out the duct tape you might want to have a look at the 3rd party cradles on ebay.
Another option is the one dollar docking station
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Oh yeah! That's what I'm talking about! Cool
Good thing the Clock app works on landscape
I think, the cradle mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627552 would also work nicely. Good thing we have those in the Philippines. I just hope it's safe for the Nexus One.
Thanks for the ebay tip. Found a lot of options
oops. double post
I've been waiting for alternate docks too.
I don't need the bluetooth or RCA connectors, just a stand with pins to charge the n1. (via the pins, not micro usb)
can someone with a dock post some pictures of the dock pins, if they can volt-test the pins that would be great.
Not fancy enough to use pins or anything, but it does what I need. Legos FTW!
3dgo.net/2010/01/15/nexus-one-lego-dock/
Unfortunately I can't post links yet...
The ebay knockoffs use microUSB, just like the lego dock As far as I know there are no pin-utilizing ones apart from the official one. Too bad I already have bluetooth speakers
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I've been waiting for alternate docks too.
I don't need the bluetooth or RCA connectors, just a stand with pins to charge the n1. (via the pins, not micro usb)
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Absolutely agree. Sadly, I bet we won't ever see one. I'm guessing it's much cheaper just to mold a piece of plastic around a micro-usb plug than to actually match the pin setup. I'm guessing that's why we saw them appear so quickly after launch.
Hope I'm proven wrong, though. That Nexus dock is hella expensive, and apparently kind of buggy.
Here are two "innovative" docks I came across in the Android Forum
http://bobbyjason.co.uk/blog/2010/02/nexus-one-andrex-dock/
http://bobbyjason.co.uk/blog/2010/02/green-android-desk-stand/
^LOL...too much doh for my tastes But that TP one has potential backup use
Heres the one I made with a business card
http://kmobs.iq0.org/Nexusdock3.jpg
persiansown said:
Heres the one I made with a business card
http://kmobs.iq0.org/Nexusdock3.jpg
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Cool. Could you share with us how you did it?
persiansown said:
Heres the one I made with a business card
http://kmobs.iq0.org/Nexusdock3.jpg
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brilliant, please post how you cut/fold the card to make it strong enough.
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...if they can volt-test the pins that would be great.
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Yeah, that would be nice.
I have lots of plastic in different colors left.
Should not be too hard to build something.
Here are the pictures of the pins on the Desktop Dock from Google, I should be be able to get a voltage test tonight and let you know.
Hope this helps.
yfrog.com/ca20100205185942j
yfrog.com/1520100205185950j
NOTE: Since I'm a new member I cant embed the images, sorry. They are from imageshack.us
My favorite is the paperclip dock. Search youtube for iphone paperclip stand.
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Here are the pictures of the pins on the Desktop Dock from Google, I should be be able to get a voltage test tonight and let you know.
Hope this helps.
yfrog.com/ca20100205185942j
yfrog.com/1520100205185950j
NOTE: Since I'm a new member I cant embed the images, sorry. They are from imageshack.us
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Thanks. I'm thinking we can build one of these out of plastic/putty/clay/plaster of paris etc.
Cut up a usb cable and connect the +5v and GND to to simple pins/nails (blunted/filed) at the bottom. ( with a little soldering).
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My favorite is the paperclip dock. Search youtube for iphone paperclip stand.
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Most decent solution so far! Thanks a lot!
Here it is http://www.deanying.com/PermaLink,guid,a99a1c06-b55b-4001-afeb-46a707055ecc.aspx
love this thread .
i wod go for the Tissue Roll Dock http://bobbyjason.co.uk/blog/2010 02...e-andrex-dock/
about the 3 pins
if you see from the bottom you have 3 pins, 2 on the left, 1 on the right from the micro usb.
if you haven't attached the microusb you have the following:
pin 1 <-> pin 2: -2.5 volts
pin 2 <-> pin 3: +2.6 volts
pin 1 <-> pin 3: 0 volts
when you have attached the micro usb you get
pin 1 <-> pin 2: 2 volts
pin 2 <-> pin 3: 2.6 volts
pin 1 <-> pin 3: 4.6 volts (with the stock loader I get 5 volts)
so I assume the outer pins are for charching (5 volts = usb power).
Can someone with the stock docking verify this?
Does anyone know what the purpose for the other pin? It should detect the dock mode? There is no 4th pin for the car dock...
Hi!
Since I held the Desire in my hands some days ago, I am concerned that in a years future it might suffer the same problem that I had with my old TyTN II: In the (TyTN's mini- as well as in the) micro-USB slot there is a piece of plastic that holds the copper pins. And that piece had gone off.
Only since I have my Desire, I think that one of the best things of the N1 is the additional contacts on the bottom which are uses for the docking station.
Has anybody heard, read or whatever of an adaptor for the N1 docking station for the Desire?
I'm interested in this also. I am still reading all the related threads here so i am sure I will eventually see this simple answer, but for now:
Does the Nexus One also use microUSB --- same as the Desire? Or does the Nexus One use miniUSB ?
This review of the Nexus One dock says it's miniUSB.
damn.
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I'm interested in this also. I am still reading all the related threads here so i am sure I will eventually see this simple answer, but for now:
Does the Nexus One also use microUSB --- same as the Desire? Or does the Nexus One use miniUSB ?
This review of the Nexus One dock says it's miniUSB.
damn.
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well yes i agree with you if you mean that the dock's output to the wall charger(which is located behind the dock, not the one used to connect the phone with the dock, it is the one to connect the dock to the wall charger) is using miniUSB port....for the dock from the link you've posted...
but for the Nexus One Phone's charging port, it's microUSB...
just to clarify some things as not to confuse others...
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but for the Nexus One Phone's charging port, it's microUSB...
just to clarify some things as not to confuse others...
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But if that's the case, then why can't we use the Nexus One dock with our Desires ?? So you have confused me!
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But if that's the case, then why can't we use the Nexus One dock with our Desires ?? So you have confused me!
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oh sorry, i reread the link you posted and i realised that they are mistaken, it is not miniUSB for the output but indeed uses microUSB output(after i look carefully at the pictures on that website)
and why can't we use the nexus one dock??
just go to youtube.com and search for nexus one dock, the videos will show that inside the dock(the place where you place your phone in), DO NOT have a microUSB plug to connect the desire!!!
the only thing inside the dock is the 3 PINS which will only work for the nexus one because the nexus have the 3 HOLES for the pins!!
So without a microUSB plug inside the dock, the htc desire can't utilise the dock because htc desire doesn't have the 3 sexy HOLES
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because htc desire doesn't have the 3 sexy *HOLES*
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Three Sexy Holes -- sounds like a new screenplay for Lady Gaga but I wouldn't speculate.
Yes, I understand now, thank you for clarifying your clarification.
no problem.....
the 3 gorgeous holes were there on the htc desire prototype, but was excluded on the retail version....
3 holes that didnt make the cut.....
I found an app in /system/bin/ that lets you control your displays :-D
Now we just need to figure out the pin-out of the connector If somebody can find me a plug that fit the docking port correctly I could probably figure out the pinout for us and post instructions.
Code:
# nvdmmultidisplay
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dmmultidisplay usage:
dmmultidisplay [disp_option] [case_option] <activity_option>
<disp_option> can be one of the following (default is '--lcd'):
--off: Turn off all displays
--lcd: Test LCD Display
--hdmi: Test HDMI with no display on LCD
--crt: Test CRT Display with no display on LCD
--tvout: Test TV-Out Display with no display on LCD
--lcd_hdmi OR --lcd_crt OR --lcd_tvout: Test for dual display at the same time
<case_option> can be one of the following (default is '--case1'):
--case1: Demonstrate case #1
--case2: Demonstrate case #2
<activity_option> can be one of the following:
--ui: Show only UI without playing video
--play: Play only video without displaying UI
--uiplay: Show UI together with playing video
--file <filename>: Video file to be played (including path)
--query_displays: Query some info about all displays
--query_active: Query more info about active displays
Command-line examples:
Turn on LCD and HDMI displays and play default video; use case 1:
dmmultidisplay --lcd_hdmi --play
Turn on LCD and HDMI displays and play default video and show UI; use case 2:
dmmultidisplay --lcd_hdmi --case2 --uiplay
KinkyMunkey said:
I found an app in /system/bin/ that lets you control your displays :-D
Now we just need to figure out the pin-out of the connector If somebody can find me a plug that fit the docking port correctly I could probably figure out the pinout for us and post instructions.
Code:
# nvdmmultidisplay
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dmmultidisplay usage:
dmmultidisplay [disp_option] [case_option] <activity_option>
<disp_option> can be one of the following (default is '--lcd'):
--off: Turn off all displays
--lcd: Test LCD Display
--hdmi: Test HDMI with no display on LCD
--crt: Test CRT Display with no display on LCD
--tvout: Test TV-Out Display with no display on LCD
--lcd_hdmi OR --lcd_crt OR --lcd_tvout: Test for dual display at the same time
<case_option> can be one of the following (default is '--case1'):
--case1: Demonstrate case #1
--case2: Demonstrate case #2
<activity_option> can be one of the following:
--ui: Show only UI without playing video
--play: Play only video without displaying UI
--uiplay: Show UI together with playing video
--file <filename>: Video file to be played (including path)
--query_displays: Query some info about all displays
--query_active: Query more info about active displays
Command-line examples:
Turn on LCD and HDMI displays and play default video; use case 1:
dmmultidisplay --lcd_hdmi --play
Turn on LCD and HDMI displays and play default video and show UI; use case 2:
dmmultidisplay --lcd_hdmi --case2 --uiplay
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Does anyone have a SandDisk Sansa device with the connector? I know you can buy breakouts of that connector (like the ipad) from Sparkfun. Maybe that one fits. It is similar to the ipad 30 pin connector
I do. The pins fit perfectly, but it's connector goes to USB. Not sure where to go from here
sledgie said:
I do. The pins fit perfectly, but it's connector goes to USB. Not sure where to go from here
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Wow.. Ok then. I am going to order this. It is a sansa breakout plug that allows you to solder to the board. Once we get it working, we can make a cable with the plug they sell also.
http://www.kineteka.com/sansabreakout.aspx
... and see if we can figure out the pin outs!
Thanks for the update.
YOU ROCK! great find... I just ordered one too....
Does anybody know if it's safe to hook the HDMI directly into the connector? I am worried that the dock might have extra power filtering circuitry or protection we could be bypassing by hooking directly into it. (i have only heard plans for a dock, personally i would rather have an HDMI adapter, it would be AMAZING for presentations, opening up a google docs slideshows work great on this thing already)
Did you try plugging the Sansa USB cable in?
no, i just checked to see if it connected into the port. for gits and shiggles!
Yes, i did plug the USB into my computer. Nothing recognized while G Tab was running 2.04. When i reboot into CWM, i went into mounts and storage, mounted /sdcard. Computer didn't recognize. pulled USB from computer - viewsonic reset. Mounted storage in USB mode - same happened. Nothing showing up on the computer.
I know its not cost effective but wondering if something like this would do anything with the sansa usb connector attached?
http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-HD-Deck-USB-to-HDMI.asp
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YOU ROCK! great find... I just ordered one too....
Does anybody know if it's safe to hook the HDMI directly into the connector? I am worried that the dock might have extra power filtering circuitry or protection we could be bypassing by hooking directly into it. (i have only heard plans for a dock, personally i would rather have an HDMI adapter, it would be AMAZING for presentations, opening up a google docs slideshows work great on this thing already)
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Mine is on its way. Tried to find a similar breakout for HDMI, but not found yet. I guess I will just cut the end off a cheap HDMI cable and wire it to the breakout. When we get it right, I will wire it to the regular plug. I bought one of those too.
Now, who is going to figure out the pinouts? I dont have a scope to read signals like these.. just a good multi meter
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Mine is on its way. Tried to find a similar breakout for HDMI, but not found yet. I guess I will just cut the end off a cheap usb and wire it to the breakout. When we get it right, I will wire it to the regular plug. I bought one of those too.
Now, who is going to figure out the pinouts? I dont have an scope to read signals like these.. just a good muti meter
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Hello guys, I am Mike from Kineteka. We noticed traffic coming from XDA and decided to investigate. We are very interested in your discovery and would like to work with you on developing an HDMI adapter.
Regards,
Mike
Kineteka Systems
Kineteka said:
Hello guys, I am Mike from Kineteka. We noticed traffic coming from XDA and decided to investigate. We are very interested in your discovery and would like to work with you on developing an HDMI adapter.
Regards,
Mike
Kineteka Systems
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Hey Mike! Welcome. We need help! no one has an hdmi cable for the viewsonic yet. As you see, someone believes the sansa cable fits our viewsonic dock... I and others have ordered on that chance. But we do not have the pinout on the dock connector...and as I mentioned, we need a pigtail HDMI cable to connect to the sansa breakout. Can you send me a private message and we can work on this.
thanks
Dennis
Ok... got my sansa connector breakout board/connector and a spare connetor. but, I have not a clue what to do next! The breakout board connector comes with the other parts to put around it such as the locking pins and plastic cover, but there is no way that fits over the breakout pc board, it is slotted for a cable like the parts on the regular cable connnetor I got. So I assume it does not work so I am clueless why it is included. That being said, there is very little contact with the connetor and the port on the tablet (absent the locking pins to hold it in). Now the big question is while I have it "sitting in there" (connected) how do we begin to test any signals coming out of the port??
Kinkymonkey,
Did you get your plug yet and have you had any luck with the pin out?
Mike from Kineteka, can you lend any insight on the pinout for us?
Thanks
So,, What can i supply about your development??
I have received your PM. and what information need i supply?
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I have received your PM. and what information need i supply?
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We need the schematic for the connector
Thx
I just got it, but it won't fit the plug, it looks like the metal tabs under the connector are just a little bit closer together then slots on the plug - it fits in sideways but it won't go in straight because of those metal tabs :-( Did it actually fit in yours? (i have one of the first 1000....)
Ya- that black cover in the bag is wierd.. did you notice the big holes in the side too- i think those little tiny plastic clips are meant to cover them- man would that be a pain to put together. it must have come from whatever kit the sansa connector came from, They just bought a bunch of cheap connectors and soldered on the breakout board.
On a plus note, the box also contained a cool rubber ducky robot, a christmas card, and a multipage color sales guide for the archos tablet line (LOL! ironic) so it wasn't a total loss... just a really expensive rubber ducky...
oh, btw wrap a piece of electical tape around the pins coming out the back of the connector (instead of the black plastic cover), that way you don't have to worry about touching them when you are plugging in it (sending static electricity from your fingers into the HDMI connector would probably be a bad thing)
Wrap it from the thick part of the connector back down the pc board coming out the back.
I did that so i could get a better grip - but it still won't fit
KinkyMunkey said:
I just got it, but it won't fit the plug, it looks like the metal tabs under the connector are just a little bit closer together then slots on the plug - it fits in sideways but it won't go in straight because of those metal tabs :-( Did it actually fit in yours? (i have one of the first 1000....)
Ya- that black cover in the bag is wierd.. did you notice the big holes in the side too- i think those little tiny plastic clips are meant to cover them- man would that be a pain to put together. it must have come from whatever kit the sansa connector came from, They just bought a bunch of cheap connectors and soldered on the breakout board.
On a plus note, the box also contained a cool rubber ducky robot, a christmas card, and a multipage color sales guide for the archos tablet line (LOL! ironic) so it wasn't a total loss... just a really expensive rubber ducky...
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I did not get any of those trinkets......but my plug engages but just not very deep. I wa assuming the metal hook piece ( when it would be assembled with the cover and the black plastic " buttons" for squeezing the pins) would hold it in. But the other poster said his plug fit.....so i dont know.
I wish Mike from the vendor would chime in again.
a bit confused
XDA is no longer worth my time.
I am briefly reserecting this old thread as I got my dock today. I was all set to pull it apart, cut the end off an HDMI cable and try and trace the pinout with my Sensa Breakout plugs I bought from Kinetica. Well, after seeing the connector on the dock, and knowing the Kinetica plug did not fit and I was going to have to modify and force it on someway, it is not even close to looking like the plug on the dock. I think the poster who plugged his Sansa cable in must have forced it or something or it is completely different from the cable that Kinetica sold us as a Sensa plug. It looks so much bigger in width and it the throat is much narrower ( I know the dock plug is made for the tablet to just "sit" on it and not stay pugged in, but even though it does not have the little clips on the sides that hold this type of plug engaged, the SAnsa cable is just not going to work. So, I will not be pulling the dock apart at this time until someone can spec the dock connector and find us one that is an exact fit.
I wasted $20 bucks on those two plugs unfortunately along with a few others here.
Just orderded my Sensation and wondered if anyone knew of a micro USB plug for the handset that had a 90 deg bend in it? THis would mean when in my car mount the charging cable did not stick out so far but run down alongside the handset.
I am keen not to use an adaptor but have a continuous cable to the car charger.
I know you said you did not want to use an adapter, but I ended up going with the following b/c it was cheap and works perfectly:
Motorola Micro USB Right Angle Adapter skn6258 from Cellfreeks.
It's small and clicks in nice and snugly and all the right angle cords I could find had the angle going the wrong direction with the cable running toward the top of the phone. Hope this helps
mollybc said:
I know you said you did not want to use an adapter, but I ended up going with the following b/c it was cheap and works perfectly:
Motorola Micro USB Right Angle Adapter skn6258 from Cellfreeks.
It's small and clicks in nice and snugly.
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I had 2 of them I had for my BlackBerry a while ago. I kept them and now use them for the sensation. They're not the best, but they do work pretty well.
Thanks - I will order one of them and see how it goes. My preference is certainly for one long cable without the adapter to avoid bulk. In case any UK based people want one I found the mentioned Motorola adaptor here: http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?tabletmake=LG&tabletmodel=LG+Optimus+Pad&skuno=82311 at £4.49
Regards
90Deg bend Micro USB Cable - Amazon
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Just orderded my Sensation and wondered if anyone knew of a micro USB plug for the handset that had a 90 deg bend in it? THis would mean when in my car mount the charging cable did not stick out so far but run down alongside the handset.
I am keen not to use an adaptor but have a continuous cable to the car charger.
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Tony - I know my reply is a little late, but I have purchased this type of Micro USB cable on Amazon. Search for Micro USB Angle and you will get plenty of hits. startech.com makes a good one in three different cable lengths, both right angle and left angle.
UUSBHAUB1RA - 1 Foot Right Angle
UUSBHAUB3RA - 3 Foot Right Angle
UUSBHAUB6RA - 6 Foot Right Angle
UUSBHAUB1LA - 1 Foot Left Angle
UUSBHAUB3LA - 3 Foot Left Angle
UUSBHAUB6LA - 6 Foot Left Angle
Thanks Vegasjoe, I ordered one of these from an E-bay seller. Should keep the cable alongside the hadset when mounted in the windscreen holder - that will look tidier than the current cable sticking out at 90deg to the handset.
Thanks, Vegasjoe for the right angle cable tip! I am ordering up a few for home, work and the car.
this might work for u.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-micro-mini-usb-data-charging-cable-for-nokia-moto-blackberry-htc-94cm-cable-70694
Hey Guys,
Has anyone found the pin-out for the 40 pin connector yet?
I haven't seen any development. Looking to make a USB host adapter like on the galtab.
Needs an asus insider to divulge details of the connector pinout, i think.
I've seen this: http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/3140
So, Im hoping someone can do a tear down? or something and give us the pin-out like the samsung galtab 10.1
rhcp0112345 said:
I've seen this: http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/3140
So, Im hoping someone can do a tear down? or something and give us the pin-out like the samsung galtab 10.1
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I've been waiting forever to do a teardown. As soon as one of my 4 preorders arrives, I'll be posting all the relevant info. But there's really no believable ETA on the preorders, so we'll have to wait until someone actual gets one, or asus leaks something.
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I've been waiting forever to do a teardown. As soon as one of my 4 preorders arrives, I'll be posting all the relevant info. But there's really no believable ETA on the preorders, so we'll have to wait until someone actual gets one, or asus leaks something.
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i'm going to do dvb-t , need the mini pci-e slot to solder and side by side pic of 3g and non 3g .
Jhinta said:
i'm going to do dvb-t , need the mini pci-e slot to solder and side by side pic of 3g and non 3g .
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I have a bunch of two different thickness of mini pci-e slot, from another project. Can not remember the thickness, but I can dig around and post measurements if someone needs.
PM me with a shipping address and I will send you 1 of each (thin, thicker) gratis, via 1st class post. They are small and fit in a small envelope with a bit of padding. Only request if you are seriously going to solder it into your TF101 or dock.
msticninja said:
I've been waiting forever to do a teardown. As soon as one of my 4 preorders arrives, I'll be posting all the relevant info. But there's really no believable ETA on the preorders, so we'll have to wait until someone actual gets one, or asus leaks something.
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I opened the Samsung USB host adapter. A small blade slid into top and bottom freed some sticky areas. Then used usb plug to push it out/open.
It has a few positive and ground pins, D+ and D- for usb signal, and two more: ID and DEC. I did not attempt to trace anything yet.
Other than plug & socket there are only 3 other surface mounted items, 1mm small rectangular things, like fuses or other item?
Unsure if the existing 40 pin cable includes any ID or DEC function. Might be interesting to see where they go with tracing.
Thoughts?