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I know the evolution 4g was affected by the gb update...is this new update gonna affect the root on the nexus s 4g?
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
**evo ..damn auto correct lol
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
When will you release your ROM
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dblkspecial said:
I know the evolution 4g was affected by the gb update...is this new update gonna affect the root on the nexus s 4g?
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
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It will most likely unroot you, but not remove the ability to regain root. The Nexus does not rely on a security hole to gain root. If they were to lock the bootloader on a Nexus, I'm pretty sure they'd have a riot on their hands.
Maximilian Mary said:
It will most likely unroot you, but not remove the ability to regain root. The Nexus does not rely on a security hole to gain root. If they were to lock the bootloader on a Nexus, I'm pretty sure they'd have a riot on their hands.
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The bootloader is locked XD
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So I shouldn't update huh lol. I got rid of my evo cuz it wasn't rootable lol
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If your rooted and get notified to update and you take it its gonna fail. Have to have to stock recovery to update.
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I was considering updating but not if I'm gonna lose my root and have to wait God knows how long like my wife who has the evo
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You wont have to wait. Rooting will be the same.you don't have the evo
dblkspecial said:
I was considering updating but not if I'm gonna lose my root and have to wait God knows how long like my wife who has the evo
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This is my first time doing an update, so this would be new to me. Forgive me for such a dumb question, but I know root can be regain. What about bootloader, can it still be unlocked? And how about flashing roms, kernels and what not?
That's what I'm worried about. I wanna update but I also wanna know 100% if I can easily root after
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Well Mikey said rooting will be the same, but I'm just worried about flashing roms and kernels. Would that be any difference? Iduno....
Guys... the Evo can't be rooted because it has a SIGNED boot loader... not only because it is locked. The Nexus comes shipped with a locked boot loader, but you can unlock it easily. This update will be the same. Devs should be able to rip apart the update and make a flashable zip for the radio, which will be the biggest change.
^and i CANNOT wait for that! hopefully, and im sure i wont have to hope too hard, that we can get the other goodies that come with the OTA.
Someone already got the new GRJ90
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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When will you release your ROM
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LOL, Will you be using MathKid's kernel?
yangers said:
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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I myself decided to lock/unroot my phone to its factory state just to be safe. I really want this OTA and I assume that EVERY stock NS4G will get the notification and update with no issue.
yangers said:
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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I usually just wait for the developers to make a flash zip or incorporate into their rom. It usually doesn't take them very long after the update comes out. They do a pretty amazing job of getting it out to everyone.
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unomedmen1 said:
I myself decided to lock/unroot my phone to its factory state just to be safe. I really want this OTA and I assume that EVERY stock NS4G will get the notification and update with no issue.
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I'm pretty sure that you made a mistake unrooting. The chances of you being in the 1st day release batch is very slim. The updated rom will probably be on xda before you actually get it pushed to your phone
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p-slim said:
I'm pretty sure that you made a mistake unrooting. The chances of you being in the 1st day release batch is very slim. The updated rom will probably be on xda before you actually get it pushed to your phone
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True. I wouldnt call it mistake tho LOL. If that happens then I will just root again and go from there. I guess you can say that I just want to BE SURE the update will install you know.
It seems AT&T is pushing out an OTA version 2.20 that is rumored to close all the loopholes we've used to unlock and root the One X.
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
Wait until someone has gotten a hold of this version and picked it apart before installing it.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
gunnyman said:
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
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Even if you are rooted and unlocked BL, don't accept the OTA, unless you are brave and feel like being the guinea pig (I guess somebody has to be). The install may not work, or it may wipe out root, and the existing root methods may have been plugged up. OTA Rootkeeper might work. It did for the last OTA, but there is no guarantee that it will work this time. Somebody will probably post this as a recovery flashable zip in pre-rooted form. So be patient, unless you feel like experimenting, and living with the consequences.
Thanks for the public service announcement, as I'm sure people will start asking whether its safe to install the OTA.
I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
Bu-bu-but I want the update NOW. Can I plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz install it? I know you said its not safe, but is it safe?
redpoint73 said:
It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
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Or how many people unroot just so they can get an OTA that will provide very little added performance if any. People are sooooo quick to accept OTAs when they have no clue what they are for. I can understand wanting to accept an OTA for a major OS update like ICS to JB (ok that was a lie, I still have no clue why people would rather accept an OTA than just flash a rooted ROM) but to give up root for a simple MR is just asinine.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Yep. This place is turning into a general Android forum. All the "I'm not really into rooting" posts crack me up.
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's and root them
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superchilpil said:
It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's
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Yup.
I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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yeah but you're old school.
(and a little weird)
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
Something like this should go without saying. Any xda member that's foolhardy enough to download an ota without knowing the consequences, probably doesn't belong here in the first place.
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zounduser said:
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
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Oooh maybe not.
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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gunnyman said:
Oooh maybe not.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a pretty effective method to block and patch our root exploit
And I'm glad I did it last night
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
iElvis said:
Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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yeah there's NOTHING anywhere else about this.
I'm glad I'm rooted
dedzombie said:
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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If I'm not mistaken, the exploit uses the AT&T update server to trick the phone into download mode, so I don't think this could work.
Nothing too earth shattering if you read the official statement from Verizon, but may have a fix for those with SIM troubles.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxys3.html
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-update-incoming-with-plenty-of-fixes-20120914/
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What is the difference between this update and the one in the other thread?
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What is the difference between this update and the one in the other thread?
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Same update
+ Enhanced Customer Support with Verizon Remote Diagnostics.
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I hope this feature will get stripped out of the custom rom's. I don't want Verizon to be able to snoop on my device.
guyd said:
I hope this feature will get stripped out of the custom rom's. I don't want Verizon to be able to snoop on my device.
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+1
Yes our device as we own it...Verizon acts as they own our device just because we're on their network.their secretly trying to chain US down with this update trying to gather info lol........
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The update is now available. I just checked and I can install it now.
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installed and not noticing any difference, no new options or apps. ill do some tests with wifi because that is what i care most about being fixed.
xceebeex said:
The update is now available. I just checked and I can install it now.
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But, if we are rooted, we don't want to update. Right? Thank-you
right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.
Judeeg said:
But, if we are rooted, we don't want to update. Right? Thank-you
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I am rooted and I just got an update message. Not sure if I should update I don't want to break root. Has anyone else installed this on a rooted device and can comment on this?
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right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.
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Can you re-root? Just want to know if the root exploits available still work despite the new update.
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right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.
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Thanks so much. I will probably skip this one then. Sounds like a lot of trouble. lol Have a great week-end!
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I am rooted and I just got an update message. Not sure if I should update I don't want to break root. Has anyone else installed this on a rooted device and can comment on this?
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I wouldn't do it if I were you. Not while rooted....Can brick your phone I heard.
Do not update if u are rooted.
Well if you can't update while rooted, what are you supposed to do if it auto updates? I was just sitting in bed and noticed that my notification went off on my phone and not on my tablet (meaning not email). I checked the phone and if I hadn't noticed it would have auto updated and I am rooted on stock. It said the update would start in 3 minutes after I heard the notification. I deferred until tomorrow and have my phone how I want it, so I really don't want to go back to stock. I suppose I could make a nandroid.
It really scares me though that Verizon almost pushed an update that could have potentially bricked my phone. I don't think that is right, quite honestly.
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For those rooted who don't want the update now here ya go
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bitrifle.otablocker
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Hulk0069 said:
For those rooted who don't want the update now here ya go
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bitrifle.otablocker
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Is this legit? I would love to do this because I am worried about the auto-updating. I do not want to restore to stock at all.
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I'm using it,I paid for it.so I'm hoping it is legit.seems to be.
Before installing this app,I noticed my phone said downloading vzw update, which I didn't want so I quickly turn mobile data off, search the market for a ota blocker saw this installed enabled and haven't been botherd yet. THIS APP IS ONLY FOR VZW S3 PHONES!! Sorry don't mean to yell lol.
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It tried to update mine and failed as cwm is my recovery but it keeps trying just deferred I'm going for the play store app screw this commie crap. Oh says error 410 prob informs big red I'm rooted w custom recovery and will bill one million dollars .... no make that a billion.. hmmmm
s3 driving an S4
Hulk0069 said:
I'm using it,I paid for it.so I'm hoping it is legit.seems to be.
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O didn't notice it was a paid app because I am on my tablet right now. Hmm. Will have to get out of bed to see if the price is worth it or if I can just defer again. It asked me for an update time and I said 1230pm.
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Saw a thread on the TMobile forum that they are getting an OTA software update starting today.
Does this mean that one may be coming to ATT S4 soon?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267852
rfb813 said:
Saw a thread on the TMobile forum that they are getting an OTA software update starting today.
Does this mean that one may be coming to ATT S4 soon?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267852
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No it does not
Sadly, no... we will get our update once the Verizon version is out. But reading that the lag was fixed is great so I'm pretty delighted about that.
Look like if we update it will take root away
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killer5000 said:
Look like if we update it will take root away
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It is able to be rooted again. Read through the thread
killer5000 said:
Look like if we update it will take root away
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Haven't heard of any OTA that doesn't remove root hahaha, none the less you can still reroot with motochopper, it's just a performance update, not security.
I thought we not should do any updates until the bootloader is unlocked since it may change the unlocking parameters. My concern is we have to watch out that we don't update and lose the unlocking capability.
I have a friend that I've finally convinced to root his S3 that is on 4.3 with the NC1 baseband. What process do I need to follow to be able to do this for him? I won't have any problems with the steps, I'm just not sure where/how to proceed.
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I have a friend that I've finally convinced to root his S3 that is on 4.3 with the NC1 baseband. What process do I need to follow to be able to do this for him? I won't have any problems with the steps, I'm just not sure where/how to proceed.
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Check the 4.3 sticky in the development section.
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BadUsername said:
Check the 4.3 sticky in the development section.
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Will flahsing the ML1.tar also change the baseband or do I need a separate .tar for that as well? Also, am I correct in saying that the ML1 (4.3) bootloader can not be unlocked?
Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks...
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Thanks...
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One thing anyone failed to mention is there is no current root method for the NC1 baseband
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ShapesBlue said:
One thing anyone failed to mention is there is no current root method for the NC1 baseband
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nor can you downgrade if you try you will brick it...
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nor can you downgrade if you try you will brick it...
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That is mostly correct. You can downgrade back to ML1 so you can root and run safestrap, but that's it. Trying to downgrade to anything before ML1 will brick your device.
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That is mostly correct. You can downgrade back to ML1 so you can root and run safestrap, but that's it. Trying to downgrade to anything before ML1 will brick your device.
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I just suggested the same thing you mentioned her to another member. At least root is available. I'm trying to convince my gf who is getting a new S3 later today because of charging issues to root hers if its on 4.1.2. She's getting a new phone in just about 4 months anyways
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ShapesBlue said:
I just suggested the same thing you mentioned her to another member. At least root is available. I'm trying to convince my gf who is getting a new S3 later today because of charging issues to root hers if its on 4.1.2. She's getting a new phone in just about 4 months anyways
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My wife wouldn't let me root her S3, so she's locked up on the NC1 update. She loves the display on the Samsung, but she says Android is too complicated for her and she is always complaining she doesn't know how to use the phone. We are both eligible for upgrade so I'm considering trying to convince her we should upgrade - her to the iPhone5s and me to the S5. Just not sure I want the locked down bootloader. Need to get into a store to play with one.
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My wife wouldn't let me root her S3, so she's locked up on the NC1 update. She loves the display on the Samsung, but she says Android is too complicated for her and she is always complaining she doesn't know how to use the phone. We are both eligible for upgrade so I'm considering trying to convince her we should upgrade - her to the iPhone5s and me to the S5. Just not sure I want the locked down bootloader. Need to get into a store to play with one.
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Check out the new M8 man. I wasn't a huge fan of HTC when I had my thunderbolt but HTC has done a lot to change sense.
Yea she gets her new S3 today at some point and I'm hoping it's on 4.1.2
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ShapesBlue said:
Check out the new M8 man. I wasn't a huge fan of HTC when I had my thunderbolt but HTC has done a lot to change sense.
Yea she gets her new S3 today at some point and I'm hoping it's on 4.1.2
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I'll cross my fingers for you.
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I'll cross my fingers for you.
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Thanks man. Ah looks like tomorrow before we get the phone. Damn Fedex
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landshark68 said:
I'll cross my fingers for you.
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Ah it came with 4.3 with the NC1 baseband. Might as well be an expensive brick lol
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Ah it came with 4.3 with the NC1 baseband. Might as well be an expensive brick lol
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Bummer
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Bummer
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I wasn't thinking. The phone came directly from Verizon instead of asurion. At least with asurion there's a possibility of it having 4.1.2
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I wasn't thinking. The phone came directly from Verizon instead of asurion. At least with asurion there's a possibility of it having 4.1.2
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Well, with the way phones are getting locked down especially on Verizon, it seems the whole rooting and romming scene is kind of shrinking. It's getting to the point if you don't buy a Nexus or developer edition phone, you're going to be stuck with stock.
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Well, with the way phones are getting locked down especially on Verizon, it seems the whole rooting and romming scene is kind of shrinking. It's getting to the point if you don't buy a Nexus or developer edition phone, you're going to be stuck with stock.
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Yea for the most part that is true. HTC seems to be one of the few who supports rooting somewhat
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landshark68 said:
Well, with the way phones are getting locked down especially on Verizon, it seems the whole rooting and romming scene is kind of shrinking. It's getting to the point if you don't buy a Nexus or developer edition phone, you're going to be stuck with stock.
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Yup, the S5 doesn't even have root yet. Very discouraging, but the m8 has good development, and stock on the m8 is very good.
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BadUsername said:
Yup, the S5 doesn't even have root yet. Very discouraging, but the m8 has good development, and stock on the m8 is very good.
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I have a feeling the S5 may never even have root
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