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The G-Tablet has ruined my life!

In a good way
This is the most game-changing piece of equipment I have had since I built my first PC from mail-order parts in the early 80s. I sincerely believe the G-Tab is the best-kept tech secret going today, especially with the efforts of all the nice folks here at xdadevelopers.
Some background: I am a VP for a tech service company and run some pretty powerful iron for the company so I have high standards for performance. I just don't have time to sit and watch hourglasses and "loading" pages all day.
When I decided I wanted to take the plunge into "tablife," I spent plenty of time reading reviews and forum posts and then found this website. After lurking for a week or so, all I read told me this was the tab for me. So I got one.
The rest is history. After doing all recommended stock updates and deciding "yeah, this really is a potential jewel," I went ahead and got root and then flashed the enhancement pack. I had no external SD card until last night, so I will be doing the REAL flashing this weekend some time. I have to say though, the enhancement pack and addition of (a working) marketplace makes all the difference in the world. I may even run it this way for a while.
But now my days are filled with searching for the elusive "perfect app" to replace the Windows one I use on my regular PCs and laptops. Thank god for this place and all the resources of the web - I think I will be able to do everything I need to with this.
Of course, now I have to have a keyboard/case and docking station and any other possible peripheral I can jam onto it!

I empathize with you totally! Since I got a Gtab, my poor ipad has seen very little use...

Rarley use a pc anymore....
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I use my gtab for daily web browsing but I still feel it is lacking something for my daily use. For example, entering comment to the xda forum is too slow using my gtab, as I still use my laptop for blog, etc. Otherwise, I think that I put my laptop to rest.. forever.

nunjabusiness said:
In a good way
This is the most game-changing piece of equipment I have had since I built my first PC from mail-order parts in the early 80s. I sincerely believe the G-Tab is the best-kept tech secret going today, especially with the efforts of all the nice folks here at xdadevelopers.
Some background: I am a VP for a tech service company and run some pretty powerful iron for the company so I have high standards for performance. I just don't have time to sit and watch hourglasses and "loading" pages all day.
When I decided I wanted to take the plunge into "tablife," I spent plenty of time reading reviews and forum posts and then found this website. After lurking for a week or so, all I read told me this was the tab for me. So I got one.
The rest is history. After doing all recommended stock updates and deciding "yeah, this really is a potential jewel," I went ahead and got root and then flashed the enhancement pack. I had no external SD card until last night, so I will be doing the REAL flashing this weekend some time. I have to say though, the enhancement pack and addition of (a working) marketplace makes all the difference in the world. I may even run it this way for a while.
But now my days are filled with searching for the elusive "perfect app" to replace the Windows one I use on my regular PCs and laptops. Thank god for this place and all the resources of the web - I think I will be able to do everything I need to with this.
Of course, now I have to have a keyboard/case and docking station and any other possible peripheral I can jam onto it!
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Since you're in mgmt in a tech Co., and now that you've experienced the Gtab, it'd be interesting to try to leverage tech like this in the 'real world's!
Jim

Yeah it will probably ruin my marriage.

cbmoore9 said:
Yeah it will probably ruin my marriage.
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LOL.....I had to get one for the wife too so it wouldn't ruin mine!!

cbmoore9 said:
Yeah it will probably ruin my marriage.
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Do what I did, buy one for wife too. Lol!

cbmoore9 said:
Yeah it will probably ruin my marriage.
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Oh boy...
ditto

I'm new to Android, new to rooting and new to modding. I've had my GTab for about two weeks now, and during that time I've read just about every page in the GTab development forum on xda, on Android Forums, on Droidpirates and any other GTab site I could Google (I'm 73, retired, and have lots & lots of free time).
Thanks to the dedicated devs and other helpful members of these sites, and following their instructions and advice, I've gone from knowing absolutely nothing about Android to developing the confidence to successfully flash the TnT enhancement pack, TnTLite 4.1, and currently VEGAn 5.1. This within a period of two weeks; all ran fine with no issues at all--except the well-documented ones that are constantly being tackled and solved.
In these posts, I've watched the evolution of this machine from its perception as a near useless piece of crap at its introduction to its present state as the best tablet on the market today, bar none; one that will go head to head with the best to come this year.
It's really exciting to see these talented devs get down into the heart of this tablet and coax it into becoming all that it's capable of being; it's almost like being present at childbirth. The most exciting part is that we all get to participate in this birth. And now, the pace of development is picking up even more, and our devs are branching out into new territory; I can hardly wait to see what magic they'll perform next!

snarful said:
I'm new to Android, new to rooting and new to modding. I've had my GTab for about two weeks now, and during that time I've read just about every page in the GTab development forum on xda, on Android Forums, on Droidpirates and any other GTab site I could Google (I'm 73, retired, and have lots & lots of free time).
Thanks to the dedicated devs and other helpful members of these sites, and following their instructions and advice, I've gone from knowing absolutely nothing about Android to developing the confidence to successfully flash the TnT enhancement pack, TnTLite 4.1, and currently VEGAn 5.1. This within a period of two weeks; all ran fine with no issues at all--except the well-documented ones that are constantly being tackled and solved.
In these posts, I've watched the evolution of this machine from its perception as a near useless piece of crap at its introduction to its present state as the best tablet on the market today, bar none; one that will go head to head with the best to come this year.
It's really exciting to see these talented devs get down into the heart of this tablet and coax it into becoming all that it's capable of being; it's almost like being present at childbirth. The most exciting part is that we all get to participate in this birth. And now, the pace of development is picking up even more, and our devs are branching out into new territory; I can hardly wait to see what magic they'll perform next!
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Well said!

cbmoore9 said:
Yeah it will probably ruin my marriage.
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My son is in first grade and just learning to write... when learnlng the B he had to write some lines with arbitrary words... the whole last line was:
"Tablet tablet tablet tablet tablet"
Does that mean his life's ruined now as well? At age of 6...

At work I manage service tickets, and download drivers.
At home I surf the web, check sports scores, and manage rpg characters

Yep, the Gtablet is the first thing I see in the morning before getting of bed, read the news. Wife is jealous, but she does not know that I have one for her also.
By the way, if anyone is interested, for your hd video, I get silky smooth playbay of video out of the Sanyo HD2000a camcorder by converting it to the mkv [email protected] bitrate, 1920/1080, mp3 audio. All my camera recordings are at 1920x1080 60fps.

Mikeg1969 said:
LOL.....I had to get one for the wife too so it wouldn't ruin mine!!
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astevens54 said:
Do what I did, buy one for wife too. Lol!
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I feel your pain (in the wallet), see my sig below. At first it was cute hearing "are the birds angry", "can I have the tablet to play Angry Birds", etc. But I realized I was getting less and less time with it. It replaced my iPod Touch and a Netbook, both sitting lonely now.

Using GTab for Business

I haven't read many posts that actually describe how people use their GTabs. I have the impression that most people are using them for entertainment. I need to use mine for business purposes, mostly because all of my colleagues are using iPads but I couldn't bring myself to join Appleland. I'm still wondering if I made the right decision.
Anyway, what I did to make this work for my day to day needs is the following:
1. Installed Clockwork Mod to reset the partition as people in this forum have written.
2. Flashed NVFlash which removed Clockwork Mod and put me back into stock mode. I assume (but don't know for sure) that it preserved the partition sizes.
3. I added the Stock Enhancement mod listed elsewhere in the forum.
4. I added the Market Fix which is listed here elsewhere too.
5. I added Documents to Go which costs a few bucks but seems to be the best product for creating, editing and viewing Microsoft documents, PowerPoints, etc. I also use this on my DroidX.
6. I added Touchdown by NitroDesk which costs a few bucks too but is what I'm using on my DroidX to keep my mail synced with my office Exchange server.
7. I added the Kindle application because I think it's the best for tablet, plus I use it on my DroidX too and it allows multiple devices to be configured to a single account, letting me share my books with myself on these 2 devices.
8. I put my DroidX in Hotspot mode when I need a wireless connection and none is available or what's available costs too much. The GTab connects to it without a hitch so it's almost like having built-in 3G.
9. I have a Freedom Universal Bluetooth keyboard that I got for my DroidX which also works fine with the GTab. To be redundant, I also have a silicone USB keyboard which works fine with both devices too.
10. I have the dock so I can situate the tablet more conveniently but I have to say I don't use it much as it doesn't have a charging capability and the leather case I got from iTSteve (www.electroniccrap.com) puts it in a similar position and looks professional.
This seems like a lot of changes when I list them but they really were pretty easy to put in place and they allow me to do everything others do with their iPads.
I have concluded that nobody will ever catch up with the iPad in terms of users as they had more than a full year headstart on all competitors and grossed something like $20 billion in sales. But my GTab can do all of the things the iPad can do and more and more quickly. People complain about the GTab's screen but it's been like anything else I have in that I just position it so I can use it properly and I'm all set. It doesn't seem to be a detriment.
If there are other business users reading the forum who have figured out other ways they can use their GTab as laptop and iPad replacement, I'd be happy to read their postings here.

There are several threads including mine that talk at length about using our gTabs in a professional setting in this forum. I have a monster Dell Covet laptop with maxed out specs that I use at the office. Trouble is the fact the laptop and power adapter weigh in at around 30 pounds and taking it on business trips was wearing me out. So I started to leave my laptop logged in at the office and access it remotely from my gTab using LogMeIn Ignition when on business trips. So far this has worked great for me.
One thing I forgot to add was that the company issued me an iPad and the only time I use it is when my wife and I take the kids out with us to eat. It has Netflix which our gTab does not (without paying for PlayOn) and my little boys LOVE Shaun the Sheep.

I have a very similar setup.... Almost exactly the same as the first post. I also use logmein. The only thing I don't see posted is that I use sticky notes.... A LOT.... To remind myself what I promised to my clients once I get back to my office.
I love the fact that I have mobile hotspot in my pocket and with an m1 case from electronic crap.com, my gtab looks like I'm carrying a nice leather journal. My clients are always a little surprised when I open it up and flip it on to take notes....
Best 360 bucks I've spent in quite a few years.

Nokia as a wireless hotspot
Citrix for RAS into client work sites
Notion Ink Quick Office and Mail'd (and keyboard) - thanks to Gojimi

+1 for similar setup. Except I use noteverything. It lets me type, sketch a note or make a voice note all from a clean looking 4X1 widget.
Also, if you haven't tried it, find the galaxy tab mail client apk in a thread in apps and themes. It's the best email client I have ever used because it is totally centered around juggling multiple email accounts.
I deal with a lot of PDF documents and am using adobe from the market to view them. It is the best app I have found for working with large files. It is just lacking the ability to make drawn notes on the PDF such as circling, highlighting, blackking out. If I could do my revision remarks and editing from my gtab... damn I really would not need to use my work computer again, no seriously, ever
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What are the options for connecting to exchange? I don't think the galaxy or Adam apps support it. How does touchdowns tablet interface work?
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MSU_Sparty said:
I haven't read many posts that actually describe how people use their GTabs. I have the impression that most people are using them for entertainment. I need to use mine for business purposes, mostly because all of my colleagues are using iPads but I couldn't bring myself to join Appleland. I'm still wondering if I made the right decision.
Anyway, what I did to make this work for my day to day needs is the following:
1. Installed Clockwork Mod to reset the partition as people in this forum have written.
2. Flashed NVFlash which removed Clockwork Mod and put me back into stock mode. I assume (but don't know for sure) that it preserved the partition sizes.
3. I added the Stock Enhancement mod listed elsewhere in the forum.
4. I added the Market Fix which is listed here elsewhere too.
5. I added Documents to Go which costs a few bucks but seems to be the best product for creating, editing and viewing Microsoft documents, PowerPoints, etc. I also use this on my DroidX.
6. I added Touchdown by NitroDesk which costs a few bucks too but is what I'm using on my DroidX to keep my mail synced with my office Exchange server.
7. I added the Kindle application because I think it's the best for tablet, plus I use it on my DroidX too and it allows multiple devices to be configured to a single account, letting me share my books with myself on these 2 devices.
8. I put my DroidX in Hotspot mode when I need a wireless connection and none is available or what's available costs too much. The GTab connects to it without a hitch so it's almost like having built-in 3G.
9. I have a Freedom Universal Bluetooth keyboard that I got for my DroidX which also works fine with the GTab. To be redundant, I also have a silicone USB keyboard which works fine with both devices too.
10. I have the dock so I can situate the tablet more conveniently but I have to say I don't use it much as it doesn't have a charging capability and the leather case I got from iTSteve (www.electroniccrap.com) puts it in a similar position and looks professional.
This seems like a lot of changes when I list them but they really were pretty easy to put in place and they allow me to do everything others do with their iPads.
I have concluded that nobody will ever catch up with the iPad in terms of users as they had more than a full year headstart on all competitors and grossed something like $20 billion in sales. But my GTab can do all of the things the iPad can do and more and more quickly. People complain about the GTab's screen but it's been like anything else I have in that I just position it so I can use it properly and I'm all set. It doesn't seem to be a detriment.
If there are other business users reading the forum who have figured out other ways they can use their GTab as laptop and iPad replacement, I'd be happy to read their postings here.
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Was using mine as a business tool before I loaded firmware 5.0 aka brickware on to it. Now I have a flashlight that throws me the bird when I turn it on.
Avoid 5.0 brickware, I fell for the Viewsonic firmware line thinking it was a mere UI enhancement, driver and other hardware component tweak instead beta crapware. I've been computing along time and never had a piece of firmware brick a device.
Hopefully when the store I bought it from gets it back they aren't able to unbrick it. My c-panel info was in it for easy access along with other proprietary info. G Tab had turned out to be quite a good business tool. Notice I used pass tense. It's done because of firmware lol 5.0.

It is not fair you blame 5.0. No one forces you to update to this ROM, and there are a lot of warnings in the first post of the thread.
I understand you are frustrated but Devs are doing a great job and at the end allowing us to have a Gtab usefull for business
BR

First of all it said "firmware" not rom. I do know the difference and it said exactly "viewsonic firmware update." Before I touched it I read the entire post. I wasn't looking to change my rom, however, firmware is something different. It usually enhances the use-ability of the product. This is not my first rodeo.
Not frustrated--pissed. Let me know when you are beta testing on me. Don't wrap it in another blanket and expect me to feel cozy. Some of the post do say "experimental or bleeding edge." Everyone gets that.
Now I have to take the brick back to the store I got it from and get another. I was smart enough to get their extended warranty plan.

ecejdt said:
It is not fair you blame 5.0. No one forces you to update to this ROM, and there are a lot of warnings in the first post of the thread.
I understand you are frustrated but Devs are doing a great job and at the end allowing us to have a Gtab usefull for business
BR
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FYI not mad at the devs, I walked right into that door. On my new one I won't be. Whatever is on there is what I will be using. This was a learning experience. I emailed them about being a little clearer on what they are offering up. Some people here may not be able to eat the cost or go get another one under warranty.
I'm pissed because I had it nicely tweaked as a business tool. This was the last thing I would have expected as a result of a firmware update. Knowing it was a ROM I would have optioned out.

I am using VEGAn 5.1.1 and it has the android exchange sync built in unlike the stock rom. I was using Docs to go but switched to Quick office due to the dropbox access and Docs to go does not use my headers in my bid forms correctly and Quick office does. I use Synctoy to sync my docs to Dropbox so I can get them on my Evo or my Gtab.

opnsrcaddict said:
What are the options for connecting to exchange? I don't think the galaxy or Adam apps support it. How does touchdowns tablet interface work?
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TouchDown offers either automatic push or manually initiated synchronization between your device (GTab, Phone, etc.) and the Exchange server. It uses whatever connection you have--WiFi or 3G or other. Obviously on the GTab, it's WiFi.
You have all of the typical options available to treat what happens on your GTab as independent from the desktop, superior, subordinate or totally synced. There are tons of options for notifications and display settings too.
There are 2 specific reasons I got Touchdown. It supports pinch and spread to change the size of email text and you can mark appointments as private. Neither of those options exist on the standard mail client--which I think is a pretty stupid omission. Whether it's really worth spending money on, I don't know but it's worked for me.
If you visit the Nitrodesk web site, you can read more details about the product. They let you try it out for 30 days for free with all functions turned on. After that, you have to delete or purchase the unlock key.
Good luck.

edirector said:
FYI not mad at the devs, I walked right into that door. On my new one I won't be. Whatever is on there is what I will be using. This was a learning experience. I emailed them about being a little clearer on what they are offering up. Some people here may not be able to eat the cost or go get another one under warranty.
I'm pissed because I had it nicely tweaked as a business tool. This was the last thing I would have expected as a result of a firmware update. Knowing it was a ROM I would have optioned out.
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Aren't you the same guy who basically threatened this website for being 'Rude'. that you would post about your experience here on your 'High traffic website' and complain to viewsonic??
Quite frankly, you should learn to take a little more time and *READ*. You should *START* with the title of the thread ... you know... where is says '[STICKY][ROM]...'
/Rant
Then you can move on to the fact that this is an enthusiasts and development site. Not VS customer service. nor is it the official repository for any VS software. if you can't be bothered to read all of the instructions and warnings of toying with these devices, then don't blame anyone but yourself.
I would venture to say that nearly everyone on this board had bricked or screwed up their device in one way or another. We did so knowing of the possibilities, and in nearly all cases, we read up enough on the process to fix it.
/Rant

Wow... talk about a thread hijacking.
Now back to the OP's post. I could link up my corporate Exchange account with the default mail client in VEGAn b5.1.1 but in the end I decided not to on the gTab as this allows the corporate admins to access your gTab remotely "for security purposes". I did set the corp Exchange account on my Droid X though. And even though the company issued me an iPhone 4 (along with the seldom used iPad) I can't deal with that small screen on the iPhone after I've been using my Droid X with it's much bigger screen.
As for Steve at electroniccrap.com, he has been a great source of gTab accessories and I plan on buying one of the new "clip" style folio cases when they arrive. Even though it's white it seems like a really elegant case on par with cases for iPads.

edirector said:
FYI not mad at the devs, I walked right into that door. On my new one I won't be. Whatever is on there is what I will be using. This was a learning experience. I emailed them about being a little clearer on what they are offering up. Some people here may not be able to eat the cost or go get another one under warranty.
I'm pissed because I had it nicely tweaked as a business tool. This was the last thing I would have expected as a result of a firmware update. Knowing it was a ROM I would have optioned out.
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Not to hijack further, but by "them" he meant me. So I will respond here, since I hadn't seen this thread until just now.
I think my post is VERY clear. I do use firmware and ROM interchangeably, that's true. Firmware is probably the better name, but the bottom line here is that this is not an official Viewsonic update, it's a altered firmware where you are taking the risk and there is no guarantees that something might not go terribly wrong. I state this clearly in my TNT Lite post, so in all honesty I don't know what else you would have liked me to do other than just pull TNT Lite completely.
I'm sorry to hear that your device is bricked and you cannot get it fixed. But if you've been reading the posts from the last several days I've probably spent more time on supporting TNT Lite than supporting my day job. So when I hear comments that I'm not making my TNT Lite post clear enough, I just have to scratch my head. There are a lot of very smart users on the board and they have been able to help ME out when my own knowledge is lacking, such as with Windows 7 nvflash instructions. My first post is long, but it's long for a reason and when I wrote "If you have any doubts, please consider holding off instead of just throwing caution to the wind" and "Use At Your Own Risk", I don't know how much clearer you want it than that.
It seems like your beef is that calling this a ROM makes this more risky than calling it firmware, in your eyes. I couldn't disagree more. If we want to nitpick on wording, firmware usually resides in a ROM and altering it is ALWAYS a risk (even from a supported vendor). They usually make you agree to that nice big EULA before you proceed, for example. ROM is more hardware based but I've used it interchangeably given how it's worded here in XDA. TNT Lite really doesn't replace the ROM, it is a firmware change - bootloader, kernel, system etc. But again, that doesn't mean it's not risky.
I'm a sysadmin - I update firmware all the time on servers. Don't tell me it's not risky because HP would disagree with you - they have redundant firmware built into their servers because sometimes things go wrong. If you don't want to take on any risk, please do not use my alternate firmware when you get that GTAB replacement - you might want to just stick with stock.

roebeet said:
Not to hijack further, but by "them" he meant me. So I will respond here, since I hadn't seen this thread until just now.
I think my post is VERY clear. I do use firmware and ROM interchangeably, that's true. Firmware is probably the better name, but the bottom line here is that this is not an official Viewsonic update, it's a altered firmware where you are taking the risk and there is no guarantees that something might not go terribly wrong. I state this clearly in my TNT Lite post, so in all honesty I don't know what else you would have liked me to do other than just pull TNT Lite completely.
I'm sorry to hear that your device is bricked and you cannot get it fixed. But if you've been reading the posts from the last several days I've probably spent more time on supporting TNT Lite than supporting my day job. So when I hear comments that I'm not making my TNT Lite post clear enough, I just have to scratch my head. There are a lot of very smart users on the board and they have been able to help ME out when my own knowledge is lacking, such as with Windows 7 nvflash instructions. My first post is long, but it's long for a reason and when I wrote "If you have any doubts, please consider holding off instead of just throwing caution to the wind" and "Use At Your Own Risk", I don't know how much clearer you want it than that.
It seems like your beef is that calling this a ROM makes this more risky than calling it firmware, in your eyes. I couldn't disagree more. If we want to nitpick on wording, firmware usually resides in a ROM and altering it is ALWAYS a risk (even from a supported vendor). They usually make you agree to that nice big EULA before you proceed, for example. ROM is more hardware based but I've used it interchangeably given how it's worded here in XDA. TNT Lite really doesn't replace the ROM, it is a firmware change - bootloader, kernel, system etc. But again, that doesn't mean it's not risky.
I'm a sysadmin - I update firmware all the time on servers. Don't tell me it's not risky because HP would disagree with you - they have redundant firmware built into their servers because sometimes things go wrong. If you don't want to take on any risk, please do not use my alternate firmware when you get that GTAB replacement - you might want to just stick with stock.
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Apparently you did not read my post. Had no issue with you the developers, just the clarity of the post. I was on here one day when an official Viewsonic post was posted here. It stated such. Only found out about this site from their support site. Don't have an android phone but a smart phone and I belong to that community forum. However, I sourced it out, there is no manufacturer link nor a manufacturer posting comments to that forum.
In addition, they were giving out tips and tweaks, jail breaks and everything else but I bought my phone jailbroken. That being said, thanks on the clarity of what you do. Most of the time it is clear cut in the heading. I didn't have a custom rom because I didn't want one but there were still some other good reading and tips. By the way, nice forum. My cell forum takes a slightly different approach. Everything is seriously laid out in no uncertain terms. The best clear cut approach I have ever seen for a forum.
The problem if there was one, is with VS giving this link. I've read a few posts were the ambiguity was apparent. We are being lead to believe there is some interconnectivity. Despite the fact they are driving up your site traffic they should be paying you at least a stipend for all your work in progressing their product. You spend more time "babysitting and coddling" their customers then they do. I agree there is always some risk with change of any kind. I was thinking drivers and use-ability change not ROM. Thanks for your post.

edirector said:
Apparently you did not read my post. Had no issue with you the developers, just the clarity of the post. I was on here one day when an official Viewsonic post was posted here. It stated such. Only found out about this site from their support site. Don't have an android phone but a smart phone and I belong to that community forum. However, I sourced it out, there is no manufacturer link nor a manufacturer posting comments to that forum.
In addition, they were giving out tips and tweaks, jail breaks and everything else but I bought my phone jailbroken. That being said, thanks on the clarity of what you do. Most of the time it is clear cut in the heading. I didn't have a custom rom because I didn't want one but there were still some other good reading and tips. By the way, nice forum. My cell forum takes a slightly different approach. Everything is seriously laid out in no uncertain terms. The best clear cut approach I have ever seen for a forum.
The problem if there was one, is with VS giving this link. I've read a few posts were the ambiguity was apparent. We are being lead to believe there is some interconnectivity. Despite the fact they are driving up your site traffic they should be paying you at least a stipend for all your work in progressing their product. You spend more time "babysitting and coddling" their customers then they do. I agree there is always some risk with change of any kind. I was thinking drivers and use-ability change not ROM. Thanks for your post.
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So, in the space of a few posts, you managed to go after a developer on this site, the content of his posts and the site itself.
People like you amaze me and are indicative of the problems with society today. How about taking some responsibility for your own actions. You chose to do something. Too bad it didn't work out, but you have no one but yourself to blame.
To blame Roebeet is absurd. Frankly, to blame anyone but yourself is incredible. I have been on this site for quite a while through at least three phones. I have always known that flashing could brick my device. To say you didn't understand the consequences means you are either fooling yourself or you are plain stupid.

ptgptg said:
So, in the space of a few posts, you managed to go after a developer on this site, the content of his posts and the site itself.
People like you amaze me and are indicative of the problems with society today. How about taking some responsibility for your own actions. You chose to do something. Too bad it didn't work out, but you have no one but yourself to blame.
To blame Roebeet is absurd. Frankly, to blame anyone but yourself is incredible. I have been on this site for quite a while through at least three phones. I have always known that flashing could brick my device. To say you didn't understand the consequences means you are either fooling yourself or you are plain stupid.
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How is what I post to Robeet your business? Stay in your lane. Stay in your lane. Read the other posts. Let's not be disingenuous here. We get that with "bleeding edge and experimental" being clearly outlined.
What part of Viewsonic didn't you get? Why even link from their site to this one? What happened to their own legitimate after purchase product support site?
You have a self esteem problem, it is evidenced by your posts. And, what does the manufacturer providing adequate after purchase support have to do with you? How is this site always the victim? Must be guilt you are adding into your responses. Get a grip.
What I am reading is product owners trying to better their products and find solutions.

MSU_Sparty said:
TouchDown offers either automatic push or manually initiated synchronization between your device (GTab, Phone, etc.) and the Exchange server. It uses whatever connection you have--WiFi or 3G or other. Obviously on the GTab, it's WiFi.
You have all of the typical options available to treat what happens on your GTab as independent from the desktop, superior, subordinate or totally synced. There are tons of options for notifications and display settings too.
There are 2 specific reasons I got Touchdown. It supports pinch and spread to change the size of email text and you can mark appointments as private. Neither of those options exist on the standard mail client--which I think is a pretty stupid omission. Whether it's really worth spending money on, I don't know but it's worked for me.
If you visit the Nitrodesk web site, you can read more details about the product. They let you try it out for 30 days for free with all functions turned on. After that, you have to delete or purchase the unlock key.
Good luck.
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Make sure you get the beta, I don't think stable works with gtab
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk

Using any tablet for business is funny stuff.. Quit dragging ass and get back into the office.. for remote administration stuff.. my G2 kicks the **** out of the gtab.. because it has a keyboard.... which can be mapped correctly (unlike using a windows based usb kb on a gtab).

I need help for a tablet purchase

I am going to purchase a tablet ASAP. I have been waiting and looking for something to come out that is just the one, but that has not come. I waited forever for the Xoom but the price is staggering in my opinion. I have come back to the Viewsonic G Tablet for the reason that it is pretty fast and thanks to you guys the rooting seems to make it show its muscles. That being said I would like to know that this is a good purchase and that I am not making a mistake. I also would like to know about the rooting and which one works the best for this unit. Also, after being rooted how hard is it to update the system. I am a noob at these units so please understand I am just searching for answers. Oh, and can you run torrent programs on tablets?
Thanks

I guess really what you need to do is make a list of available tablets. Then base the decision on the best price point via hardware/support. I think one of the main things that makes the G-tablet shine is XDA and its developers. But as in all electronic inevitability, its only good as the people behind it. I got my G-Tablet because it was going to be one of the cheapest tablets out there, its what I could afford. Are there better ones out there, well yes and no just depends on what your going to be doing with it. Know the devices faults. Don't listen to reviews, most will give you a half-ass answers, play with the device in person if you can. Thats all I can really help with, do research make sure you get the most bang for the buck. And above all else, good luck and I hope you enjoy your future purchase, it's your decision

RedbullSushi said:
I am going to purchase a tablet ASAP. I have been waiting and looking for something to come out that is just the one, but that has not come. I waited forever for the Xoom but the price is staggering in my opinion. I have come back to the Viewsonic G Tablet for the reason that it is pretty fast and thanks to you guys the rooting seems to make it show its muscles. That being said I would like to know that this is a good purchase and that I am not making a mistake. I also would like to know about the rooting and which one works the best for this unit. Also, after being rooted how hard is it to update the system. I am a noob at these units so please understand I am just searching for answers. Oh, and can you run torrent programs on tablets?
Thanks
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The only real issues I have with my GTAB is the viewing angles since I like to stream Neflix and Hulu and the sort via "Playon". It's not so good unless you have it facing you near direct
Also, the PDMI port is only for use with a dock (until someone puts out a PDMI to HDMI cable).
The great things about the GTAB is the hardware, this thing is virtually unbrickable. Believe me I have bricked it and was able to bring it back from the cold dark black screen that makes you think this thing is a goner!!
Performance is TOP NOTCH, Aside from some glitches with the custom roms its very responsive. And thanks to the Fantastic Dev-Nation we have here at XDA this thing has gotten a lot of love!
Battery life is amazing, I get 12+ hrs of use even after watching three 2 hour movies back to back to back!.
Torrents are supported, I have used "tTorrent Lite" to aquire a few things though as with most torrents speed is questionable and even more so with the tablet.
Rooting this device is very easy, "z4Root" will do it in a tap.. (Litterally)
ROM? I use VEGAn 5.1 Beta (without the 5.1.1 supplement patch)
Others here like, TnT Lite, and there are variants of CM7 floating around. Some are Officially supported and others are not.
The GTAB can be a Fantastic device provided you are willing to make the effort it takes to transform it from "Out of the Box CRAP" to the magnificant device it was meant be.
So unless you have issues with viewing angles (as many do), can aquire a dock to stream AV to an output of your choice, are frightfull of modding, then perhaps this device is not for you.

Hey I really appreciate the posts. I am not afraid to mod the device at all, as a matter of fact I find that half the reason for getting this tablet. It is going to be for fun so I am looking forward to learning more. I feel that technology is something I am always chasing and pushing into areas like this helps to keep me young in this area. I think this solves my issue and I will get my unit ordered today. I still have the question of a torrent program. That is something I heard you can do with Android.
Thanks again guys for the helpfull posts. I appreciate it very much.

DVDFab
I've said this before on another thread but if you plan on purchasing the DVDFab software with all the bells and whistles do a google search for tarzan media. I've bought it from them for less than $40 with free lifetime upgrades.
It is by far the easiest, most flexible dvd ripping/converting app I've ever used.
Edit: posted on wrong thread somehow... Sorry.

Being that you have brought up ripping......are you ripping and burning to dvd from a tablet, or what? This is a new thought being that I was not aware of an external burner plugging into the unit. Please fill me in on this or did I just misunderstand.
thanks

What if i said you could get the GTab for $300 shipped?
I was also going to wait and see how that Tablet Market plays out.
Then I heard about and posted this: Available from SearsOutlet for $279

RedbullSushi said:
Being that you have brought up ripping......are you ripping and burning to dvd from a tablet, or what? This is a new thought being that I was not aware of an external burner plugging into the unit. Please fill me in on this or did I just misunderstand.
thanks
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Oops, somehow my post got in the wrong thread. But, since you asked...
No, I am not using my gTab for ripping or burning; just viewing.

I ordered mine today. I took the advice of a member and bought a used/like new in original packaging for 327. I thought that was a good price. I will be researching the ROM loading now while I wait. If any of you guys have good easy instructions or tips please feel free to post or PM me.
Thanks

Interesting article on Missing Apps for Honeycomb

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218075/Mystery_of_the_missing_Honeycomb_apps
Really good, looks like they did their homework...not that I feel much better about hoping more apps come along shortly after reading this-lol
Question: Tegra Zone is mentioned as a place to, also, get apps. Is anyone familiar with them as in do I have to be rooted, etc....I've never heard of them.

sunsetbay said:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218075/Mystery_of_the_missing_Honeycomb_apps
Really good, looks like they did their homework...not that I feel much better about hoping more apps come along after reading this-lol
Question: Tegra Zone is mentioned as a place to, also, get apps. Is anyone familiar with them as in do I have to be rooted, etc....I've never heard of them.
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They sure did, and as you say...there won't be a rush for more apps on the market.
For the tegra zone:
You do not need to have your TF rooted. It's listed at googlemarket
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nvidia.tegrazone&feature=search_result

sparven89 said:
They sure did, and as you say...there won't be a rush for more apps on the market.
For the tegra zone:
You do not need to have your TF rooted. It's listed at googlemarket
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nvidia.tegrazone&feature=search_result
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Thanks for the reply, sparven89
I think I will give this app a try and I see they have a couple of games I might want to try.
Thanks!

I enjoy crapshooting and refunding apps. I bought over 500 apps, refunded over 300. It is a fun process

frosty5689 said:
I enjoy crapshooting and refunding apps. I bought over 500 apps, refunded over 300. It is a fun process
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+1, if only Google gave you a bit more than 15 minutes before you could refund the app you don't want .

Yup it's odd how Google are known for their great search engine, yet have the worst search function ever in the android market. I don't buy that bit in the article about there not being enough demand for developers to want to create apps for HC though. There's loads of demand for apps in just about every section (other than for twitter, enough already!).

Everyone,
I found another new article about Android apps vs HP Touchpad having 400 at release on July 1st - (Android around 200+):
"Does the HP TouchPad Have More Tablet Apps Than Android?" (Apparently it may have and how they did it...yet I wonder if this is true)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387999,00.asp
I do like this part in the article "Google, as I've said before, wouldn't comment. But I've heard through the grapevine that they're working on improvements for the Android Market—it's just nothing they'll confirm. It's an obvious move, though."
On the personal side, I love my TF and number of apps isn't an issue for me-I have plenty(s). But, I am following the posts of others and some apps they want, so I find the whole subject interesting.
Google has so much riding on this...changes have to coming shortly that helps the developers and what they're waiting for. Well, just my 2 cents(s) and interesting to follow.

frosty5689 said:
I enjoy crapshooting and refunding apps. I bought over 500 apps, refunded over 300. It is a fun process
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jonitfcfan said:
+1, if only Google gave you a bit more than 15 minutes before you could refund the app you don't want .
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Seems more behind the scenes on this front happening, at least in Taiwan:
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/07/01/2003507141
Apple is complying with Taiwan's 7 day refund policy on their stores and Google
has pulled their paid apps, so far, rather than comply...well!?? Google has to July 14th, certainly hope they don't handle it like this.
I agree with you both 100% that 15 minutes is not enough time. I've already
been caught on an app Moon+Reader Pro $4.99 causing my screen to flash repeatedly when I used the Text to Speech, so I immediately deleted it.
Since it took me almost an hour to get to this point, I wrote the developer for a refund...very polite & I'd be willing to try again if it was fixed. I waited 3 days and no response, then I left a 1 star review in the marketplace, again polite & details.
My review days later never showed up either. Call me skeptic, but I have wondered if I was censored by the 1 star rating & possibly because I said the developer hadn't responded to refund request...ah, guess that's a clue-lol.
So what are you going to do, just being honest & following the rules Google set in place, didn't work for me.
Shame because other's experience is what I reply on when purchasing an app.
Actually, this has been my one and only problem. But, it was a biggie the way it fell through the cracks when I actually asked for a refund.

sunsetbay said:
Seems more behind the scenes on this front happening, at least in Taiwan:
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/07/01/2003507141
Apple is complying with Taiwan's 7 day refund policy on their stores and Google
has pulled their paid apps, so far, rather than comply...well!?? Google has to July 14th, certainly hope they don't handle it like this.
I agree with you both 100% that 15 minutes is not enough time. I've already
been caught on an app Moon+Reader Pro $4.99 causing my screen to flash repeatedly when I used the Text to Speech, so I immediately deleted it.
Since it took me almost an hour to get to this point, I wrote the developer for a refund...very polite & I'd be willing to try again if it was fixed. I waited 3 days and no response, then I left a 1 star review in the marketplace, again polite & details.
My review days later never showed up either. Call me skeptic, but I have wondered if I was censored by the 1 star rating & possibly because I said the developer hadn't responded to refund request...ah, guess that's a clue-lol.
So what are you going to do, just being honest & following the rules Google set in place, didn't work for me.
Shame because other's experience is what I reply on when purchasing an app.
Actually, this has been my one and only problem. But, it was a biggie the way it fell through the cracks when I actually asked for a refund.
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am i being daft ? ive got no 'optimised for tablet' section in my market app ????

wilbur-force said:
am i being daft ? ive got no 'optimised for tablet' section in my market app ????
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I'm not aware of anything like this either. Is there supposed to be one ?

I think the tablet section is only for the USA.

Damn those Yanks, getting everything first...well, almost .

Misleading
There are several things mentioned in the article (like every other article decrying the state of HC apps) that are false or misleading:
The number of Honeycomb-optimized apps remains in the low hundreds. By comparison, there are over 100,000 apps optimized for the iPad.
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Of course the iPad has been out for a full year longer, that number was much lower three months after its release (which is approximately how long its been since the Xoom was released). It looks like it was about 10,000 based on a quick googling. That's quite a big difference from 100,000 (like, an order of magnitude).
There is also the question of how they are counting these "Honeycomb-optimized apps". There is no provision in the market, or in the metadata that describes an app to determine if it is "optimized" or not. Unless a developer explicitly denies the app for a certain screen size, a certain device, or requires a feature that the device doesn't have, then it will most likely run. If its just a question of "will it run?" then we have tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of Honeycomb apps. Beyond that, where can you draw the line to say that an app is "optimized"? This is a subjective question that can't be used as the basis for such an empirical evaluation.
I can offer my own apps (linked in sig) as an anecdotal example. Both worked on day one on Honeycomb, with no changes needed. All the text and graphics were crisp, clean and appropriately sized. They did not look ugly, just not as efficiently designed as they could have. Shortly after HC dropped, I updated them with a minor change to make use of the native Action Bar in HC for menu items. The rest of the UI (mostly list views), while great for a small phone screen, wastes a lot of space on a tablet screen that is several times larger. I'm currently working on refactoring the UI components into fragments, to improve the HC experience. At this point, all the fragments are in, and working, but I have not yet implemented a new activity/layout for HC devices which will make use of the extra screen space to place multiple fragments on the screen at once. At what point is my app then "optimized"? Day one (when it worked)? Once it made use of the action bar (more consistent UI)? When it was refactored into fragments (easier to detect this automatically)? Or when I add separate layouts that make use of a larger screen's real estate (most of us would say this is "optimized", but the point is we don't have any way to tell besides looking at it and making a judgement).
All Android 2.x apps will run on Android 3.x, but oftentimes the text just looks awkwardly small and clunky; this is because the Android SDK does not automatically scale fonts, so developers must create their own code to get their fonts to scale up or down within their apps, which can be extremely tricky.
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As long as fonts are specified in "sp" (scale independent pixels) units, this happens automatically.
When graphics are involved, you must use higher-resolution graphics and program them to be scalable, so that when they are on a larger screen they won't become pixilated. However, this requires the size of your app to be larger, and it may put more of a strain on the device's processor.
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Nope. Having different resources for different screen densities or sizes is well documented and as easy as putting them in specially named folders. This was already done to make apps look good on LDPI, MDPI, and HDPI devices. It does increase the size of the app, but it will have virtually no performance penalty.
Many pundits have speculated that perhaps the holdup is in anticipation of Ice Cream Sandwich, which will theoretically merge Android's phone and tablet platforms, helping to end fragmentation, and which is due to arrive this fall.
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Even if this were true, its not the release of ICS developers are waiting on, but the point where adoption is widespread enough that they can safely drop support for previous versions (this wont happen for quite a while, as we've seen from the last several releases of Android).
To the author's credit, they acknowledge this and state that none of the developers they talked to felt this was a roadblock, but I have seen other articles promoting this idea.
This article was one of the more fair and balanced looks at the subject I have seen, but still upholds some myths about Android app development. The fact is, most any app that was built following the Android UI guidelines worked and looked fine without any changes for Honeycomb. Their UI may just not have been the most efficient for a tablet sized screen. In comparison, iPhone apps, using the 2x scaling on the iPad, look pretty terrible. This, combined with faster hardware adoption by consumers, is what prompted developers to port more apps to the iPad quicker than we are seeing for Honeycomb. The fact that my apps looked "good enough" on HC is why I didn't feel like there was much of a rush to put in the work to "optimize" them. Google made the right call by making Android as resolution/density agnostic as possible, as opposed to iOS's initial assumption of a single screen size and resolution. While iOS developers had to scramble to get iPad optimized versions of their apps out quickly, Android developers are able to take their time and (hopefully) do it right. There will be more HC "optimized" apps, as more tablets are sold, and more developers decide its worth their time to invest in it.

maxpower47, Thank you as a developer jumping in and adding clarification. I've reread your post several times and now I'm clearer on understanding the article and difference between optimized and 'working apps' as the article seemed to implied to be very low in number.
"Even if this were true, its not the release of ICS developers are waiting on, but the point where adoption is widespread enough that they can safely drop support for previous versions (this wont happen for quite a while, as we've seen from the last several releases of Android).
To the author's credit, they acknowledge this and state that none of the developers they talked to felt this was a roadblock, but I have seen other articles promoting this idea."
Interesting!
"This article was one of the more fair and balanced looks at the subject I have seen, but still upholds some myths about Android app development. The fact is, most any app that was built following the Android UI guidelines worked and looked fine without any changes for Honeycomb."
This sure is a myth that I was holding, so again I appreciate your contribution to understanding this better...much appreciated!

sunsetbay said:
Everyone,
I found another new article about Android apps vs HP Touchpad having 400 at release on July 1st - (Android around 200+):
"Does the HP TouchPad Have More Tablet Apps Than Android?" (Apparently it may have and how they did it...yet I wonder if this is true)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387999,00.asp
I do like this part in the article "Google, as I've said before, wouldn't comment. But I've heard through the grapevine that they're working on improvements for the Android Market—it's just nothing they'll confirm. It's an obvious move, though."
On the personal side, I love my TF and number of apps isn't an issue for me-I have plenty(s). But, I am following the posts of others and some apps they want, so I find the whole subject interesting.
Google has so much riding on this...changes have to coming shortly that helps the developers and what they're waiting for. Well, just my 2 cents(s) and interesting to follow.
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Android SDK sucks balls.
WebOS SDK does not.
Result = More WebOS apps.

JCopernicus said:
Android SDK sucks balls.
WebOS SDK does not.
Result = More WebOS apps.
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Um, er... what? More webOS apps than Android apps? In which universe?
I'll tell you, I stuck with webOS for 18 months before giving up because the app situation over there is such a mess. I think there's still only about 6,000 official (non-homebrew) apps for webOS, and many (most?) of those don't run on the TouchPad outside of a silly little emulation window. And there's as much junk in the webOS App Catalog as there are good apps. I think the only category with good apps is Twitter clients, which is why you'll find most webOS entusiasts constantly talking about the latest Twitter app.
I'm also astounded that there are only 300 or so TouchPad-optimized apps, given that HP is the world's largest tech company and has a huge vested interest in seeing webOS succeed. Couldn't they do SOMETHING to get more apps written before launching the TouchPad?
My golly, but saying that the webOS SDK being good (which is hugely debatable, given all of the SDK's limitations since webOS was announced) resulting in more webOS apps is just laughable. I have thousands of apps available for my TF, across every major category. If I were to swap my TF for a TouchPad, I'd be giving up a wide variety of useful apps and would essentially give up most of the value of owning a tablet.
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I meant in terms of "tablet" apps.
(which I know just means XL v11 support).

maxpower47 said:
Or when I add separate layouts that make use of a larger screen's real estate (most of us would say this is "optimized", but the point is we don't have any way to tell besides looking at it and making a judgement).
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This is definitely "Optimized" to me. As much as function is important, I think it's equally as important for an app to utilize screen real-estate properly.
The fact is, most any app that was built following the Android UI guidelines worked and looked fine without any changes for Honeycomb. Their UI may just not have been the most efficient for a tablet sized screen. In comparison, iPhone apps, using the 2x scaling on the iPad, look pretty terrible. This, combined with faster hardware adoption by consumers, is what prompted developers to port more apps to the iPad quicker than we are seeing for Honeycomb. The fact that my apps looked "good enough" on HC is why I didn't feel like there was much of a rush to put in the work to "optimize" them. Google made the right call by making Android as resolution/density agnostic as possible, as opposed to iOS's initial assumption of a single screen size and resolution. While iOS developers had to scramble to get iPad optimized versions of their apps out quickly, Android developers are able to take their time and (hopefully) do it right. There will be more HC "optimized" apps, as more tablets are sold, and more developers decide its worth their time to invest in it.
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This all makes a lot of sense.
What doesn't make sense, as a consumer, though... there is no way for us to search for apps that *are* optimized for tablets. Even with "optimized" being hard to define, there needs to be a way for a user to head into the market and search for apps that work nicely on their tablet. It kills me that I have to depend on forums to find apps that fit my screen well.

HA!!!
I just find what I like from my phone and use that.
Or I think of other things to be done with my amazement machine I: study, download, try, and if I like it buy! If your not an informed consumer then you dont belong on android anyways. Sorry if that sounds crass, but if you want someone to tell you what to by then by all means have fun following the heard.

haensgn said:
HA!!!
I just find what I like from my phone and use that.
Or I think of other things to be done with my amazement machine I: study, download, try, and if I like it buy! If your not an informed consumer then you dont belong on android anyways. Sorry if that sounds crass, but if you want someone to tell you what to by then by all means have fun following the heard.
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*I* am obviously fine, as I'm here and other places researching apps.
But from a general user population point of view, it's extremely consumer unfriendly to not have a way to find "native" (using that term loosely) apps for your new "hot" products.
Also, there is no reason to be rude about it, imo. It's simply an opinion on customer service, which I think Google has a poor track record of, unfortunately.
Honeycomb is absolutely great, some of the tablets released also great (I love my TF).... but the Android Market needs some serious work, imo, especially in terms of the search engine (ironic hah).

Using Transformers in High School

Hello everyone. Im a student from a high school in Costa Rica. (Sorry if I make some mistake writing, english isnt my native language ) Me, some friends and a teacher made a group called "Artech", for promoting the use of art and technology. Im the tech part.
I have been using my transformer as a notebook all this year, and it has been really useful. I use it for all the assignatures. Everything with polaris office, math, chemistry and physics with supernote (really awesome).
School's principal has been very happy of how we use tabs/pcs as notebooks. So we decided to take the project to a higher level giving everyone a tab/pc for school use.
As people around here know A LOT of things i actually dont know, id like to ask some questions:
- TF101 w/ dock might be a good replacemt for books/notebooks? Is there some economic tab better than this?
- You now any other apps we can use for this? We are currently using: Splashtop for viewing everything from the virtual boards, supernote for math and all those things, box for shaing all the documents from teachers to students and viseversa and polaris.
Any help, comment, oppinion, etc, would be really apppreciated thanks!

having first hand experience with the transformer for the use-cases you're interested in, aren't you equally (if not more so) an expert on your own questions?
but from my point of view, definitely yes. note-taking, reading ebooks, etc, tablets definitely are perfectly suitable. for things like taking notes for math equations and stuff, maybe not so much. but i guess if the entire school is going digital, the teacher might just digitize the notes, and distribute an ebook or whatever. (although you miss out on the actual act of taking notes, which some consider help in memorization)
in terms of cost, there's a new tab coming out, the nexus tablet which is supposed to be on par hardware-wise with the prime, but around the price-range of kindle fire. so i'd say do research on that, and wait. it will be made by asus so it's possible that it will also have a keyboard dock, but i'm not sure.
kindle fire is also an alternative, but no keyboard dock.
no offense, just curious: but how is your school paying for these? are you in one of those private international schools?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

finalhit said:
having first hand experience with the transformer for the use-cases you're interested in, aren't you equally (if not more so) an expert on your own questions?
but from my point of view, definitely yes. note-taking, reading ebooks, etc, tablets definitely are perfectly suitable. for things like taking notes for math equations and stuff, maybe not so much. but i guess if the entire school is going digital, the teacher might just digitize the notes, and distribute an ebook or whatever. (although you miss out on the actual act of taking notes, which some consider help in memorization)
in terms of cost, there's a new tab coming out, the nexus tablet which is supposed to be on par hardware-wise with the prime, but around the price-range of kindle fire. so i'd say do research on that, and wait. it will be made by asus so it's possible that it will also have a keyboard dock, but i'm not sure.
kindle fire is also an alternative, but no keyboard dock.
no offense, just curious: but how is your school paying for these? are you in one of those private international schools?
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I am. But obviously, school isnt going to pay 400 TF without gaining something. It just like for persons that still doesnt have its onw pc/tab, or parents that dont allow their kids to take their laptops/tabs to school cause its too dangerous. How are we planing to get them??
Well, lets say that the TF is like 500$. Every month, we need to pay for staying there. So, when people do all the registration stuff for staying on school, there will be a contract, saying that you will be paying some extra bucks per month for having the tab. It will be like 40$ more per month.
Why parent will accept buying tabs instead of buying books/notebooks every year? Isnt more expensie? Well, No. If you count all the money you spend buying materials and notebooks in 2 year it will be more that having a tab, and the tab last longer.
Sorry f i did a mess writting all the info, im not really good at english, so..... And im not the best writter ever.... actually, this is my 1st post/comment, etc on xda. So...If you got any question/sugerence im here

Ugalde97 said:
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I am. But obviously, school isnt going to pay 400 TF without gaining something. It just like for persons that still doesnt have its onw pc/tab, or parents that dont allow their kids to take their laptops/tabs to school cause its too dangerous. How are we planing to get them??
Well, lets say that the TF is like 500$. Every month, we need to pay for staying there. So, when people do all the registration stuff for staying on school, there will be a contract, saying that you will be paying some extra bucks per month for having the tab. It will be like 40$ more per month.
Why parent will accept buying tabs instead of buying books/notebooks every year? Isnt more expensie? Well, No. If you count all the money you spend buying materials and notebooks in 2 year it will be more that having a tab, and the tab last longer.
Sorry f i did a mess writting all the info, im not really good at english, so..... And im not the best writter ever.... actually, this is my 1st post/comment, etc on xda. So...If you got any question/sugerence im here
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Tranquilo Mae. Your English is fine.
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off topic: i'm glad kids in your country are making an effort to learn and use tools like the TF. kids at my high school would just play angry birds all day lol

Being in university, I find the transformer useful. But not as good as it could be. The only issue I have with it is not having a pen. I have a few capacitive pens (adonit Jot, and a generic rubber tip), but they're not as good as something with a dedicated digitizer.
I'm always keeping an eye out for something with a digitizer, and the ones I've seen are the Xoom 2, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, HTC flyer (I wouldn't get this as the screen is too small)
This is coming from the perspective from studying engineering. There's always symbols, diagrams, and equations that are used all the time, thus my need for a pen. But for highschool, an android tablet should be sufficient. It's waaay easier to carry around one tablet than 3 textbooks.
That's my only issue.
As for reading and making notes on PDF's I use two apps, Repligo and EZPdf.
EZPdf is great for making notes, I would say it's better than Repligo in this aspect because you can pan while writing.
However, Repligo is better when opening large PDF's. I constantly open 300+ page pdfs in the form of text books, and I've never had issues with them.
I also use Andie Graph as a calculator if needed (that said, it's still not as good as my ti-92)
There's also a new physics app called ForceEffect by autodesk. I haven't had a chance to really play with it, but it seems useful for basic static physics problems if you're having trouble understanding.
Hope that helps

I suggest Adonit Jot with LectureNotes. There is a trial version of LecureNotes on PlayStore.

xun3 said:
Being in university, I find the transformer useful. But not as good as it could be. The only issue I have with it is not having a pen. I have a few capacitive pens (adonit Jot, and a generic rubber tip), but they're not as good as something with a dedicated digitizer.
I'm always keeping an eye out for something with a digitizer, and the ones I've seen are the Xoom 2, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, HTC flyer (I wouldn't get this as the screen is too small)
This is coming from the perspective from studying engineering. There's always symbols, diagrams, and equations that are used all the time, thus my need for a pen. But for highschool, an android tablet should be sufficient. It's waaay easier to carry around one tablet than 3 textbooks.
That's my only issue.
As for reading and making notes on PDF's I use two apps, Repligo and EZPdf.
EZPdf is great for making notes, I would say it's better than Repligo in this aspect because you can pan while writing.
However, Repligo is better when opening large PDF's. I constantly open 300+ page pdfs in the form of text books, and I've never had issues with them.
I also use Andie Graph as a calculator if needed (that said, it's still not as good as my ti-92)
There's also a new physics app called ForceEffect by autodesk. I haven't had a chance to really play with it, but it seems useful for basic static physics problems if you're having trouble understanding.
Hope that helps
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Thanks everyone for the reply! I havent cheked xda lately because of exams.....
Well, the pen may not be an issue because, as every teacher have its own computer in class, they just give us their doc and we take notes while she/he explains the theory and all that stuff. This is a lot faster and efficients that retyping everythign again. So all we need to do is write on the document section "notes". The pen will be only used for math and somethimes chemistry/physics. But everypen will work, even the finger, at least for me, isnt uncomfortable.
EZPdf might be a really good program, thanks for the recomendation. As we will buy virtual licenses instead of books, a good programs might be good, and the taking notes parts looks awesome.
ForceEffect looks really good but, looks kinda complicated so ill be playing with it for checking if it will work. Thanks very much for the reply, im very happy and for the other people to.
And again, sorry for my bad english.

chatch15117 said:
off topic: i'm glad kids in your country are making an effort to learn and use tools like the TF. kids at my high school would just play angry birds all day lol
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Well, thats something you can see ALLWAYS. Thats why we are making teachers to monitorate all the computers on class. So, every person that is on fb, playing or making dirty stuff, will be punished
I think there is nothing like this but, is there any way every TF can, like connect to the internet, and get monitored?

Check Evernote - for me the best note taking and sharing app. It also has desktop version. You might instead like Springpad, they're quite similar, it's just the matter of taste and needs.

Ugalde97 said:
Hello everyone. Im a student from a high school in Costa Rica. (Sorry if I make some mistake writing, english isnt my native language ) Me, some friends and a teacher made a group called "Artech", for promoting the use of art and technology. Im the tech part.
I have been using my transformer as a notebook all this year, and it has been really useful. I use it for all the assignatures. Everything with polaris office, math, chemistry and physics with supernote (really awesome).
School's principal has been very happy of how we use tabs/pcs as notebooks. So we decided to take the project to a higher level giving everyone a tab/pc for school use.
As people around here know A LOT of things i actually dont know, id like to ask some questions:
- TF101 w/ dock might be a good replacemt for books/notebooks? Is there some economic tab better than this?
- You now any other apps we can use for this? We are currently using: Splashtop for viewing everything from the virtual boards, supernote for math and all those things, box for shaing all the documents from teachers to students and viseversa and polaris.
Any help, comment, oppinion, etc, would be really apppreciated thanks!
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The Galaxy Note 10.1 that comes out in a week will include support for the Wacomb driven S Pen (a professional graphics level digitizer), and the operating system and software will be built entirely around the use of the stylus. If you do a Google or YouTube search for "Galaxy Note Premium Suite Review", you'll be able to see what kind of support and features are built in to the device and the possibilities of using such a device for school. While the galaxy note is a phone, they're releasing a tablet version. It will have all of the features the Galaxy Note has, plus more! And it will be built around a large form factor, with superior math, image editing, drawing, and handwriting support (which will be good for those who are not used to a combination of touching and typing. Being that its an android tablet, you can pair it with a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse, and use it just like a laptop.
So you could write on it during the day, and pair it with a keyboard to type the really long papers! And its much much faster than the transformer, and software like splash top still works!
Search in youtube for the "galaxy note 10.1" and "galaxy Note premium suite" so see a demo. You can also search for "s note Demo" to see the built in math software, and note taking application. It's extremely powerful, and the software even includes handwriting recognition.
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