Android devices GPUs - Android General

Here starting the new thread for Android device GPUs information so please post share the performance of the gpu and tell everyone that which gpu has the good performance
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Nvidia
Mali
Adreno
Which one is best
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Broadcom VideoCoreIV
Full HD 1080p camcorder capabilities in a cell phone with significantly improved quality over current generation handsets (which generally have VGA or lower resolution camcorders)
Up to 20 megapixel digital camera with advanced features such as multiple shots per second, image stabilization, face and smile detection and panorama mode
The ability to render mobile games natively at up to 1080p resolution, which in combination with an on-board HDMI output, allows a console-quality gaming experience on large screen HDTVs
20% to 50% power reduction in comparison to the prior generation VideoCore® III multimedia processor
4 to 6 hours of 1080p video recording and 8 to 10 hours of mobile playback, with up to 16 hours of full HD playback over HDMI given sufficient handset storage
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Galaxy Y,Galaxy Ace s5830i and Galaxy Pop Plus use this GPU,but,for now is "locked" by Samsung & Broadcom.

Adreno225 is pretty good. 400Mhz GPU as far as I Know. Used in tge Htc One s aka Ville. Not in villec2!

NOMIOMI said:
Nvidia
Mali
Adreno
Which one is best
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Adreno 320 (Snapdragon S4 pro) >>> Mali-400MP (@440MHZ Galaxy S3) > Adreno 225 (Snapdragon S4)= Tegra 3 GPU> Mali-400MP (@266MHZ Galaxy S2)> Adreno 220(Snapdragon S3)>> Tegra 2

Mali 400 is beast!
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Broadcom VideoCoreIV
Galaxy Y,Galaxy Ace s5830i and Galaxy Pop Plus use this GPU,but,for now is "locked" by Samsung & Broadcom.
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You got your facts a bit wrong. It only supports up to 8Mp. Dunno about the rest though, not bothered to research lol
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You got your facts a bit wrong. It only supports up to 8Mp. Dunno about the rest though, not bothered to research lol
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763

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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
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Galaxy Y and and ace s5830i etc use BCM21553 not the one you mentioned.
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The bcm21553 integrates a graphic chip called VideoCoreIV
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which quad core phone?

due for an upgrade, and i wanted to wait for the htc edge. what other quad core phones are coming out soon, and which phones are you guys waiting for next?
I'm waiting for Edge too. Also the Samsung Galaxy S3 and Asus PadPhone are coming soon.
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I'm waiting for Edge too. Also the Samsung Galaxy S3 and Asus PadPhone are coming soon.
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+ 1, but if htc would take time and wouldn't show it this month I consider the Galaxy s3 but nobody know when they will present it.
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HTC or Samsung, take your pick.
More than likely I'll go with Samsung though, since I'm not a fan of sense.
I'm between the HTC Edge and Galaxy S3.
The HTC Edge with Tegra 3 appeals more to me atm.
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whoa, didn't hear about the htc endeavor- thanks for mentioning that.
so far, as far as specs(rumored or not) we have:
s3:
1.8 Ghz quad core procesor
1.5 GB of RAM
4.65 inche Super AMOLED III HD display
10 mega pixel camera
32 GB internal storage capacity
2250 mAh battery
NFC Chip
Ice Cream Sandwich
Touchwiz 5.0
htc edge:
1.5GHz quad-core processor, courtesy of the Tegra 3 platform, 1GB of RAM, 4.7-inch 720p screen, 8-megapixel shooter with 1080p video capture and the latest incarnation of Google's OS, Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Built-in storage 32GB, 1800 mAh battery,
htc endeavor:
4.7-inches, a quad-core Tegra 3 processor, eight-megapixel rear shooter, front-facing camera, NFC, 1GB RAM and the new ICS-adapted version of HTC's Sense UI
If only tegra 3 was built on A15 cores... The using of the A9 cores just speak backwardness to me.
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Yikes. If those are the legit sizes of their screens I'm questioning whether I'd want it. Ive got the T-Mobile SGSII at 4.52in and it is perfect, but borderline annoying.
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Yikes. If those are the legit sizes of their screens I'm questioning whether I'd want it. Ive got the T-Mobile SGSII at 4.52in and it is perfect, but borderline annoying.
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Anything bigger than 4" is too much for me. <insert joke here>
If this is the future it will become impossible to buy a device that i want.
LG X3 (coming soon) Quad core, tegra 3
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LG X3 (coming soon) Quad core, tegra 3
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LG won't be able to create a good tegra 3 high end phone otherwise to htc
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If only tegra 3 was built on A15 cores... The using of the A9 cores just speak backwardness to me.
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I am waiting for an A15 Cortex too, but I wonder for how long then I have to wait..
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I am waiting for an A15 Cortex too, but I wonder for how long then I have to wait..
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Maybe tegra 4?!
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i'll wait for the s3 samsung never go wrong and a 12mp camera then i have a pocket dslr htc sense is crap yea tegra 3 and only a gig of ram
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Maybe tegra 4?!
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Very likely...
anyone know which quad core phones will not have external memory? with 64gb micro sd cards, it's gonna be sweet

GPU?

Hi i was having a big argue with a friend so Im asking this here
I'll take HTC wildfire as example at the whole post!
So I was saying that wildfire doesn't have a gpu. My friend said "not true....every phone has a gpu otherwise the screen would have no signal cause the graphic part can not be calculated"
so I said "in the wildfire the cpu calculates the graphic part "
He said "no....the cpu need a gpu to do it "
So I said " ok so he doesn't have a dedicated gpu " and he said that its impossible for a phone to have a dedicated gpu cause the case its not big enough to keep it in ....
So the point is
- for me wildfire doesn't have any gpu and the calculation of the graphic part belongs only to the cpu -according to my friend every phone has a gpu like the one in the nexus s or in any other top range phone ..
Thanks in advance for answers!!
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CPU, GPU, APU, the lines have been blurred. It really doesn't matter.
You have soc "cpu" which contains a lot more than just a CPU, a5x is more a gpu than CPU, and APU designs that do both tasks well. CPU/GPU traditional systems are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
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Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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Right, it doesn't have a dedicated GPU in it's SoC. Graphics processing is pushed to the CPU, which is why it kinda sucks for playing movies.
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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It does. Your friend is right, if there is no GPU then there would be no signal to your screen.
thyeme said:
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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A lot of high-end phones have had dedicated GPUs for a long time now, the Krait S4 uses the Adreno 225 GPU.
Just like in bargain pc's, if the SoC doesn't have a dedicated GPU then it has an integrated GPU. You need graphics processing to have a screen, so its happening somewhere. You just get very bad results without a dedicated GPU.
The Wildfire runs MSM7225 at 600MHz I think, which has a cut-down Adreno 200.
All phones possess a GPU of sorts, although it is usually part of the SoC in modern smartphones. Even feature phones have a 'GPU', although it's usually just a basic Boradcom display controller with no 3D or video acceleration support
So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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thyeme said:
So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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Yep. A pretty good one.
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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We're entering the realm of SoCs now. Tegra is both a CPU and a GPU at the same time.
thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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I'll generalise for you:
In all modern smartphones, no matter what SoC is used, a 'piece' of the package is the GPU. Technically, they are integrated. This is common across all manufacturers, as separate chips for everything wastes power and PCB space.
To answer your question, in terms of contruction there are no differences. Adreno 200 is a small 'piece' of the MSM7225 chip, while whatever Tegra 3's GPU is called is a small 'piece' of the Tegra 3 chip

S2 or nexus

Hey guys planning to get a new phone so need a lil help
What do u think which one is better s2 or nexus and why do u think it is better?
Thanks in advance :thumbup:
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Nexus, You get an amazing looking phone running the latest Android and let's not forget, No Touchwiz
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You have a One X. Why would youu want a new phone that is actually older?
But Nexus wins. It doesn't have the Exynos processor, but an HD screen, bigger screen, faster updates, lots of development (S2 does too).
Camera is meh but like I said you have a One X which has one of the best cameras on a smartphone in the market.
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You have a One X. Why would youu want a new phone that is actually older?
But Nexus wins. It doesn't have the Exynos processor, but an HD screen, bigger screen, faster updates, lots of development (S2 does too).
Camera is meh but like I said you have a One X which has one of the best cameras on a smartphone in the market.
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I need it as a side mobile..
Hmm seems nexus would be a good choice
BTW have any one tried any high end graphics games like nova 3 on nexus how's the performance?
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Nexus is a good choice as a side mobile. Nexus can always run latest andoroid version without aby efforts.
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What's a side mobile and why doesn't your regular mobile work?
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What's a side mobile and why doesn't your regular mobile work?
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He means as an extra phone, just for tinkering (?) Or whatever use he wants it to be
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Nexus because A) You'll most likely always get the latest Android updates and B) That screen is AMAZING!
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Nexus because A) You'll most likely always get the latest Android updates and B) That screen is AMAZING!
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I agree with you on this one
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The S2 easy. It's been around for ages and can still compete with the newest flagship devices.
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Thanks guys
Ordered nexus already
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s2 is better and JB IS COMING IN FEW MONTHS
sosandroid said:
s2 is better and JB IS COMING IN FEW MONTHS
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He already chose Nexus which GOT JB A MONTH AND A HALF AGO
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gagdude said:
He already chose Nexus which GOT JB A MONTH AND A HALF AGO
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LoL
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The Nexus will be better because you will get your updates much quicker and straight from Google! I'd go with that.
I am a GNex owner and I say that you made a great choise!!!
The speed and the screen are perfect!
I play with it and its Platform since the first day..
I just love it..!
GS2 it is good but it doesn't give you the same feeling as the GNex!
Enjoy it!!
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Mandroid15 said:
Nexus, You get an amazing looking phone running the latest Android and let's not forget, No Touchwiz
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+1
i sign that
I faced the exactly the same question when helping my wife to decide a smartphone. I did a little research on the internet, and here are the reason why I choose SII over Nexus.
1. Super AMOLED vs AMOLED HD
Yes, Nexus as better resolution and higher ppi, but the quality of display, the color saturation on the SII is better than the Nexus when comparing them side by side
2. Corning Gorilla Glass
This is only for the SII, Nexus doesn't have that.
3. CPU + GPU
Galaxy S2 CPU:1.2GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A9 CPU、Samsung Exynos 4210。
Galaxy Nexus CPU:1.2GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A9 CPU、TI OMAP 4460。
Same CPU, but the GPU for SII is slightly better suited for high end graphics
4. Camera
Galaxy S2:8MP rear camper with 1080p HD video、2MP front
Galaxy Nexus:5MP rear camera with 1080p HD video、1.3MP front
So in the end, I choose the SII instead of Galexy Nexus. But please keep in mind, that the difference are minor, so if you have already choose the Nexus, stay with it. Both are excellent benchmark android device. Excellent phones from Samsung.
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you made the right choice...enjoy......
DruidXL said:
I faced the exactly the same question when helping my wife to decide a smartphone. I did a little research on the internet, and here are the reason why I choose SII over Nexus.
1. Super AMOLED vs AMOLED HD
Yes, Nexus as better resolution and higher ppi, but the quality of display, the color saturation on the SII is better than the Nexus when comparing them side by side
2. Corning Gorilla Glass
This is only for the SII, Nexus doesn't have that.
3. CPU + GPU
Galaxy S2 CPU:1.2GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A9 CPU、Samsung Exynos 4210。
Galaxy Nexus CPU:1.2GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A9 CPU、TI OMAP 4460。
Same CPU, but the GPU for SII is slightly better suited for high end graphics
4. Camera
Galaxy S2:8MP rear camper with 1080p HD video、2MP front
Galaxy Nexus:5MP rear camera with 1080p HD video、1.3MP front
So in the end, I choose the SII instead of Galexy Nexus. But please keep in mind, that the difference are minor, so if you have already choose the Nexus, stay with it. Both are excellent benchmark android device. Excellent phones from Samsung.
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I have to agree to all these because they are sure true. But I would never change the beautiful and super smooth Galaxy Nexus..
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Powerfullest phone 2012-2013

In your opinion wich 2012-2013 phone is the powerfullest? The new LG optimus g in ranked numberone in antutu benchmark ranking, but if you re not of this opinion feel free to comment
And wich phone will be the powerfullest in 2013? (if the world do not end tomorow ;P)
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For me,Samsung Galaxy SIII is powerfull phone in 12/13 year.
Samsung galaxy note 2 win over all other device
I think too that winner is SGS3, but when we live in times when comes SGS4 I think we will be very surprised
i think SGS3 and HTC One X..
both are best phone in 2012
And in your opinion which phone will be the best of the year 2013?
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And in your opinion which phone will be the best of the year 2013?
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Anything with tegra 4
That thing looks crazy quad a15 with a 5th lp core and a 72core GeForce graphics roll on 2013 woop woop
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joewong1991 said:
Anything with tegra 4
That thing looks crazy quad a15 with a 5th lp core and a 72core GeForce graphics roll on 2013 woop woop
skydragon team
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72 core graphics yeah right define a graphics core.
How do you think powervr 5XT tends to crush tegra 3 .
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Have a look for your self quad a15 with lp core and 72core GeForce 6x tegra 3
65 fps @ 1080
Plus the tegra 3 come out in 2011 and has not long been beet so you can brag all you won't because you won't beet tegra again for another year
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samsung galaxy s3:good:
joewong1991 said:
Have a look for your self quad a15 with lp core and 72core GeForce 6x tegra 3
65 fps @ 1080
Plus the tegra 3 come out in 2011 and has not long been beet so you can brag all you won't because you won't beet tegra again for another year
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Armv7
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I really hate to be that guy, but powerfullest isn't a word.
Now back to the topic, I'd say the GS3
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I envisioned the powerfullest phone as one that could broadcast to cell towers on other continents.
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LG Nexus is the fastest. Best CPU and best graphics.
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LG Nexus is the fastest. Best CPU and best graphics.
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Lol just because it's faster doesn't mean it has better graphics it may look better because it can handle the pixel density better but actually particle shadows bloom light and reflection effects you have nothing on tegra and plus tegra handles heat better your thing gets hot quick and throttles to half its speed which course crazy lag but I'm sure a kernel dev will thx that soon for ya
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joewong1991 said:
Lol just because it's faster doesn't mean it has better graphics it may look better because it can handle the pixel density better but actually particle shadows bloom light and reflection effects you have nothing on tegra and plus tegra handles heat better your thing gets hot quick and throttles to half its speed which course crazy lag but I'm sure a kernel dev will thx that soon for ya
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He owns a Galaxy S3, and he votes for another phone as most powerful. You say Tegra (I assume because your phone has it) and talk great about it.
He shows unbiased opinion but you vote for your phone because you own it. Analytics, mate. Not defending the N4 or anything even though I own one.
The same CPU is found in the 441 PPI Droid DNA. That's what the S4 Pro can handle.
However my vote goes to the hated phone aka the iPhone 5, because frankly, the A6 is the fastest mobile CPU out there. Overpowered? Yes. Most powerful? Yes
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Galaxy S3 or maybe even Nexus 4. Gotta love that Snapdragon chip.
lg optimu g is the power here,no s3 ,note 2
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Nexus 4 if it have sd card slot
.... Sorry google 4.3/12.3 is not enough

why does mu dual core S3 beat my Note 10. in Quadrant?

One of the big reasons I got the note 10.1 was its quad core processor. But in Quadrant my s3 wins. See the pics. What could it be? The note 10.1 pic is in landscape, S3 in portrait
DiamondJay20 said:
One of the big reasons I got the note 10.1 was its quad core processor. But in Quadrant my s3 wins. See the pics. What could it be?
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Where is S3 and where is Note
There is your device and then there is Galaxy Tab which is a totally different tablet
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BTW Quadrant score of note 10.1 is 5695!!!!
samir_a said:
Where is S3 and where is Note
There is your device and then there is Galaxy Tab which is a totally different tablet
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BTW Quadrant score of note 10.1 is 5695!!!!
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Note 10.1 is the landscape pic, S3 portrait.
S3 cpu has 9942 points, note 10.1 cpu has 13154 points in your tests. But where did you get dual core S3? All S3 based on exynos has quad core.
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S3 cpu has 9942 points, note 10.1 cpu has 13154 points in your tests. But where did you get dual core S3? All S3 based on exynos has quad core.
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In US some carriers have S3 with dual core processor and 2gb of ram
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In US some carriers have S3 with dual core processor and 2gb of ram
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But those S3 models built on qualcomm soc. I just thinked that OP compare two devices on exynos.
For example add my result, use redemption rom
The us s3's have a dual core A15 s4 chip. Which is a way better architecture and is more efficient.... It's not always how many cores my friend.
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In US some carriers have S3 with dual core processor and 2gb of ram
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The s3 in the UK over here has 4 cores and LTE. But 1GB of RAM.
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dilster97 said:
The s3 in the UK over here has 4 cores and LTE. But 1GB of RAM.
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Only a few carriers/ newer phones have the LET.
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Close power saving mode , Iam getting 6300 on quadrant stock jellybean
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Same here, I get 6200+ on stock JB 4.1.1 with no changed.
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Most phones with same specs can easily beat tablets due to the large screen the tablet has to handle
My GS3 did jump 500 points in Quadrant after getting JB, my N10.1 is still ICS. Did u install the German ROM or u got a US one preloaded with JB?
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Most phones with same specs can easily beat tablets due to the large screen the tablet has to handle
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screen size does not necessarily mean more pixels and therefore a lower score, the S3 and the Note 10.1 have the same screen density so that shouldn't be an issue.
I would be surprised to hear the inferior US dual core version beats the International quad to be honest.
The s3 has over 300ppi, note 10.1 like 160. I only forgive that cuz of the quad core and stylus or I woulda done nexus 10.
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sensation lover said:
Only a few carriers/ newer phones have the LET.
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EE have the LTE version.
HTC One X Viper X 3.2.2
Haas360 said:
The us s3's have a dual core A15 s4 chip. Which is a way better architecture and is more efficient.... It's not always how many cores my friend.
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Krait is not a15... Qualcomm uses the arm instruction set not design, a15 is a design. Krait is between a9 and a15 in performance. Qualcomm designs their own chips (from the ground up) and use ONLY the armv7 instruction set, so a Qualcomm chip will never be a cortex a chip
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DiamondJay20 said:
One of the big reasons I got the note 10.1 was its quad core processor. But in Quadrant my s3 wins. See the pics. What could it be? The note 10.1 pic is in landscape, S3 in portrait
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Everyone really needs to stop using quadrant, it is easily tricked. One of the simplest ways to increase score is a better storage format like ext4. Quadrant has a heavy emphasis put on I/O performance. You may also have power save mode on. CPU in exynos is slower on a per core base but will do better in multi thread apps. GPU between the 2 is about equal.
Also exynos is slightly faster than a standard cortex a9 because Samsung modified the design to increase per core performance just a bit
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Sigh.
Inform yourselves.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S4
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III#Model_variants
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Meaning that the S4 is a damned powerful chip. That being said, turn off power saving mode and re-run quadrant.
I have an AT&T Galaxy S3. It has the S4 and 2GB of RAM.
My S3 scored 5640.
My Note 10.1 scored 6285.
Power saving is disabled on both devices.
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