So Open WebOS is out... - HTC Sensation

Is there any chance we are getting WebOS ported to the Sensation at all? it would be nice to have more variety for our amazing devices
Any thoughts?

I am interested in it myself but seeing as I have only compiled Android from source I have been looking for more info on how to set up to build it from source. I image it is a lot like compiling Android but I am not sure. Also I am not sure if we will have to modify or even compile a completely new kernel just for WEB OS. If anyone else has some input I am all ears.
Edit: Thanks to the XDA Portal story I got a link to what I have been looking for

the palm pre, for its time, was an amazing design with an even better OS.. too bad for palm. webos could have been android if they had a better plan.

DonDizzurp said:
the palm pre, for its time, was an amazing design with an even better OS.. too bad for palm. webos could have been android if they had a better plan.
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Yessss I think so.
It would be perfect if our sensation can dual boot webos.
Hopefully.

it would be even better if we got Android Applications working under WebOS. If that ever happens, i don't see myself using android for an extended period of time. for some reason WebOS feels more sturdy and put together than android for me

How does it work with different chipsets?
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This would be amazing.

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Anyone think there will be WP7 on the MT4G?

I have been eying the mytouch4G and the HD7 for a while now and what I really like about the HD7 is that it has Windows Phone 7 (which seems nice and it seems to have nice gaming support)...so I also noticed the MT4G has better specs, so I was wondering if I get the MT4G, I would like to put WP7 on it if possible...anyone think its possible or anyone workin on somethin like that already?...or is it a stupid idea? haha...let me know
-thanks!
Windows? Oh man, no way! I came from an HD2 and the HD7 looks so ugly. IMO
But the developers here just might do it.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
Windows mobile is closed sourced like Sense UI, they can't port it due to lack of drivers that would be needed to make the phone work. But that doesn't mean you can't put android on WP7 phones, you can put android on Iphone too.
Yeah, but he's saying he likes the mT4G specs.
Looking at the HD7 i think it's pretty sweet looking - more true to HTC's "usual"design vs the (previously lame & teeny) myTouch models, and similar to the HD2. I'm just glad the Glacier feels so solid or I'd be looking at the HD2 or keeping the Vibrant.
This isn't a WP7 discussion, but unless MS releases regular & beefy updates you're going to be stuck with the likes of orig Android or iOS 1.0 - it appears to be lacking quite a bit, but if MS keeps on it then it may have a chance. If you're that interested in WP7 then consider the HD7 and put Android on it to boot.
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HeavyComponent said:
Windows? Oh man, no way! I came from an HD2 and the HD7 looks so ugly. IMO
But the developers here just might do it.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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I think you are referring to Windows Mobile....the HD7 does not have windows mobile like the HD2.. the HD7 has Windows Phone 7 (MS' new mobile operating system)...It looks pretty nice and smooth and is built upon specific specs which helps control quality and efficiency...also the gaming support its proclaiming is nice also as the MT4G has great specs (except the 'LCD' screen haha), but it does not have the gaming support for that level of hardware (at least not yet)...
S o my concern here would not so much be to put Android on the HD7 (which should be pretty easy considering the HD7 has basically the same hardware as the HD2), but my concern would be more of whether I could (or would be able to) put WP7 on the higher specc'd phone (the MT4G in this case)...but hearing that they use proprietary drivers makes me think it might not be as easy to put WP7 on the MT4G....
No!!!
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I'm just waiting for him to ask the same question a 3rd time so I can say no once again lol
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stoneyjonez said:
I'm just waiting for him to ask the same question a 3rd time so I can say no once again lol
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so..
will there be WP7 on the MT4G?
jp, hahah..sorry... I just figure that nothing is impossible, so while some may say no...some may still try but I now understand how difficult it may be and why some may say no...
I know that when WM was MS's mobile OS, I did not see any natively Android phones bothering to boot up WM, but since WP7 is seemingly such an improvement - I was thinking maybe the tables may turn...?
Thanks for all the responses though...interesting stuff..
Wp7 an improvement over Android...?
You should probably just return any and alll phones you have for an iPhone with that outlook....
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ESKIMOn00b said:
Wp7 an improvement over Android...?
You should probably just return any and alll phones you have for an iPhone with that outlook....
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you should probably just return all of your school supplies now and for the rest of your life for a decent education in reading...
the statement says that WP7 is an improvement over WM...
and that since Android was a nice alternative OS for WM, now maybe Android users might think that WP7 might be nice to try out on their phone (or somethin along those lines)...
well you will do what you like...
but i cant even imagine perfoming such an atrocity
ESKIMOn00b said:
well you will do what you like...
but i cant even imagine perfoming such an atrocity
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for 1 - XBL games!...?
In my case i'm torn because I am a dev. I love android OS and dev on it as a hobby but I am a .net / windows developer as a trade and its really much easier to dev in .net (Visual studio is 10x better than eclipse) than c++ or Java IMO so I too would like to have the ability to stay on my sweet android os, but boot over to dev when i need to. yes yes, i know i can do emus, but its not a substitute for running on actual hardware.
Considering that the myTouch hasn't even been rooted yet I would say putting any other operating system on it would be a helluva feat!
This turned into a spiffle... I am almost afraid to jump in, but.... I got to. I think the ability to put WP7 on the MT4G would be friggin sweet. Now, now... I know some of you think "Why would someone want to do that"? Because we do, ok?
Freedom of choice baby! It's a beautiful thing!
Edit***
Just searching around for some Home apps and stumbled across these win 7 launchers.
Windows Phone Android Lite - haven't tried yet...
7 Launcher - Running now.. a little slow but eeehhh.. it's ok.
Android Seven Lite - Not WP7, rather Windows 7 emulator. Looks decent...
Sorry to reopen such an old thread~
But heres a link to a stable WP7 rom for the mytouch4G, if anyone was still looking for it. Its very smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398347
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Sorry to reopen such an old thread~
But heres a link to a stable WP7 rom for the mytouch4G, if anyone was still looking for it. Its very smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398347
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That's MIUI with a WP7 theme
If Microsoft went open source, the possibility of WP7 is slim since I assume you'd need to port the drivers to work.
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simply no.
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Webos lives on open source

Webos lives on to the open source cummunity
lovenokia said:
Webos lives on to the open source cummunity
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Well, the WebOS forums will be much more active after today!
Sweet
So that makes webOS another free mobile phone OS for companies to choose, and puts it in much more direct competition with Android (or might in time). I won't be surprised to see a lot of webOS phones in a few months.
now i want the guys at xda to do some cool **** with webos and i want more activity over here for web os
there will be a lot more activity on the precdntral forums....good news cuz I actually like webos despite the overwhelming-ness of android
Problem is HP aren't manufacturing any more devices. That's the killer...
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Will it ever be possible to port webOS to an Android device?
So who's porting to Android devices?
There's already some really early talks on the direction to take on PreCentral. This is going to be awesome. If my Nexus S ever runs ICS and webOS, I will flip.
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There's already some really early talks on the direction to take on PreCentral. This is going to be awesome. If my Nexus S ever runs ICS and webOS, I will flip.
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^^^^ this!!!
Does webOS offer anything we can't get from ICS? If so, would it make sense to create some sort of hybrid of webOS and Android that has the best of both and is able to run apps for both?
no way guys there will be new hardware from hp but not smartphones only tablets
http://www.precentral.net/whitman-hp-will-make-new-webos-tablets-eventually-not-smartphones
http://mobile.theverge.com/2011/12/...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
it is starting to come together, and i mean the open source thing
lol! It took WebOS going open source for me to realize that a WebOS section existed on xda LOLOL. ill be visiting more. :ulls out and dusts off old att pre plus::
SGS2+WebOS, Yes please
chansthename said:
SGS2+WebOS, Yes please
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+100000000 i MISS webOS so friggin much!! having WebOS on my beastmode SGSII would so friggin awesome!!!
I think webOS on a galaxy tab 8.9 form factor would be my ideal device. Portable, thin, light and a great OS,
would love some webos on my htc sensation!
Have they pushed the code yet? I want to download it.

So WEBOS will be open source

Does that mean we might see a port on our phones?
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I suppose if they release everything like kernel source I don't see why not. Personally I'd love to see webOS on my nexus s
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I sure hope we do.
Not that I plan on changing to it permanently, but it might be cool.
I would PAY big to get webOS on the Nexus S 4G!!
I formally owned the Palm Pre and the Pixi. The pre had horrible hardware but the OS was beautiful, simple, elegant, and overall a pleasure to use.
So... I will lend my girlfriend for two weeks to the first developer to make this possible.

Webos on Android Devices (Dual Boot)

I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!
WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-
It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
lovenokia said:
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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I would!
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i would too
My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?
It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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Hi
I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.
I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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Ubuntu on mobile phones

Hey guys,
Ubuntu on mobile phones:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
I personally think it's a win for Android. Since Android is always behind the mainline Linux kernel, now with Ubuntu being optimised for ARM devices, the kernel drivers will be in line with the main Linux kernel. That could possibly mean that phones like the Sensation could always be kept up to date as Android is a forked distribution of Linux.
This is all strictly hypothetical of course and it may not bear to fruition.
On a side note Ubuntu on mobile does seem pretty awesome, especially the gesture based controls.
So what are your thoughts guys?
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The promised land indeed - the unfied and homogeneous environment from smartphone to cluster.
And it looks beautiful - fair play. Bare back Android still looks like a school project to me.
Will be interesting to see which of the OEMs get on board. But it could be just what HTC need to differentiate themselves again.
Edit: Clever so and so's, common drivers mean it shouldn't be long till we see some ports. I for one will have a phone with it on from day one. Definitely.
Apparently the source will release Q4 2013 so we could possibly build it for our sensations as the kernel is not much different to our android kernel. I honestly can not wait because there's no dalvik vm running so it could essentially work lag free.
The future is coming where everything is tied into one OS. However I doubt htc will release a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Manufacturers like Samsung and Sony will possibly capitalise on Ubuntu with their unlockable bootloaders
Edit: Eliminate lag on Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
This confirms my thoughts about the dalvik vm. It's the Dalvik VM which is the main cause of lag on Android. Now with Ubuntu having no virtual machine, it should run with near to no lag!
Ubuntu on Sensation sounds amazing, although I might not be using this phone around Q4 2013, shame really...
I personally preferred ubuntu for android (it was plug ur android phone into a dock then use it as Ubuntu computer). But I guess an Ubuntu phone is cool too, and always welcome any new platforms to the market, getting some fresh blood
I can't wait
Just out of curiosity, are there any developers in the sensation world that think they'd be up to porting this when it become available? I would love to see this come to the Sensation.
How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
harsh.deep said:
How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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Tons. Expect the scrolling and general touch interface to be as smooth as an iPhone or windows phone. (To the haters, you simply cannot deny that that android has some lag to it, no matter the phone). I think this is the only OS out there that can compete with android and iPhone simply because of the desktop OS concept, which is brilliant and exactly what most people would love to have if the app market picks up for it. Only time will tell though.
is anybody, who try it?
Exactly, Android will have some degree of lag due to the Dalvik VM. It's Ubuntu which has the possibility having little to no lag at all.
And to the poster above, Ubuntu still hasn't been released yet on any phones
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
As long as you have terminal, anything is possible
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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They can't put anything on a phone that I can't take off.
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NeoSilky said:
Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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Where's there's a will, there's a way. XDA has proven that time and again in the smartphone world
I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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+1
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I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
Very nice i hope bring to sensation
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
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Not buy'in it. I've played with 3GS, 4 and 4S, and the N4 is snappier than all 'ovem. Project Butter was a total success, and Android finally tore that smoothness monkey off its back. IOS is slow now, by comparison.

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