Is this the norm? ICS Was much better. The overall system is just slow as all hell. And what's up with google now not initiating when we say "google" like it does on my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus? I thought it was CM10 being bad but then I restocked and climbed the tree of updates to find the same, if not slightly worse performance.
maybe you got an unlucky device.
I found honeycomb to be decent and smooth, ICS was snappy and smoother, but I find jelly bean to be buttery smooth, quick, responsive and no lag. Plus that's with a CM10 nightly. MZ604.
You're not underclocking by accident are you?
not rooted atm.
Sounds like you need to factory reset cause you have some corrupted data from ICS screwing with your JB. Things you learn from being rooted and flashing stuff is that you never want to carry data from one OS over to another. They just wont match 100%. Things can and will be buggy. Wipe your data and you'll have a brand new super speedy device again.
This is really the main reason I root. Not to overclock or mod. But to be able to back up all my stuff. So when this happens I can wipe and have all my apps back in minutes thanks to titanium backup (only restore app, don't restore data for an app unless you have no choice). I can be back to normal in under an hour. It's nice
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I completely reset the device to stock and relocked, and climbed the update tree via google OTA updates. I said that in the op, and reiterated it to the poster previous to you.
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alright guys so something seems to be up with my infuse 4g, pretty much all of a sudden regardless of which rom i run (including cm7 which is normally really fast)
my phone has been running very slowly or freezing.
this is happening even if i go through this back to stock process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1318160
or gtg's unbrick.
do you guys have any ideas about what i could try or anything i can do?
"Running slow" just isn't descriptive enough. Can you use more detail? Is there any activity that you do that consistently causes lag or slowness? Have you made sure there's no undervolting settings you left in by accident? What does your system report your CPU speed as? Try and be as descriptive as possible.
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I would suggest go back to stock, and factory reset the phone in stock.
My phone gets kinda slow every so many flashes, that's when i decide to go back to stock and reset.
So go back to stock factory reset. then flash the community kernel then your set up (rom, kernel, tweaks and what not)
then see how if it performing then.
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I would suggest go back to stock, and factory reset the phone in stock.
My phone gets kinda slow every so many flashes, that's when i decide to go back to stock and reset.
So go back to stock factory reset. then flash the community kernel then your set up (rom, kernel, tweaks and what not)
then see how if it performing then.
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Did this help at all? I'm having a smiliar issue after a random reboot on cm7 port.
it takes a while to boot up and it loads items in the launcher extremely slow. swiping through pages in the launcher also takes a great deal of force. I don't want to completely wipe if i can avoid it. it takes alot of time.
I've tried wiping cache, data, etc. I've also tried restoring an older backup, it looks like it's slow even in the recovery.
**Update: i rebooted my phone after a restore and it looks like it's working better. yay!
I am having this issue.
i am not sure what the problem is, however it happened to me when i switched from ICS back to CM7
i fixed permissions and seems to be faster. will update if this didnt stick permanently.
I've tried a few different ICS ROMS now and if they don't have battery life issues, they have home screen transition lag, app drawer lag, random reboots, screen flickering (like when it shuts off), app compatibility issues, etc... (some have all of those things, others just have one or two, you know what I mean) yet I always see a lot of posts in here about people praising X or Y ROM and somehow don't seem to have the same issues I have.
At first I wanted to call it an ID-10-T error on my part, but I'm doing full wipes and even using the wipe_all script on top of that, and this is my 5th or 6th Android phone, so it isn't like I lack experience flashing.
I've been using a stock, rooted 2.3.7 ROM + ADW EX and I'm in stability heaven. It's buttery smooth, no crashes, etc. I'm the kinda guy that'll go back to stock from a custom ROM the first time it gets laggy or randomly reboots. Stability and smoothness is everything to me. I really want to like ICS... but I don't have any good reason to force it upon myself right now if I can't find a stable ROM/kernel combination.
Anyhoo... what's the smoothest, most stable, ICS ROM for the Nexus S 4G? I expect to hear different opinions, but surely there would be some kind of consensus, right?
I'm looking for the same, and experiencing identical issues to you. I don't think it's an idiot error because as a result, but it seems to me that ICS roms have a long way to go in order to satisfy users like you and I.
The screen flicker appears to be a function of voodoo settings. I've tried a few kernels with no obvious differences, though I haven't messed w/ Voodoo as of yet. The lag seems to have been mitigated in entirety by using Launcher Pro instead of the ICS launcher, and general lag during homescreen and app drawer transition follows in the same path. OS lag, on the other hand, is much more obvious than in GB IMO.
It seems that the most stable/popular rom is oICSv43 paired with Eugene's kernel (ICUP). I'm using that kernel with CM9 (alpha19) by burnsra. Can't say I'm thrilled with it but I'll definitely be happy once this damn batch restore finishes without causing boot loops
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417499
Battery is great, the system is smooth. Very Very Stable. Everything works.Nothing is broken. Truly a pleasure to use.
The built in kernel is great but I used a newer version called ICUP 3.1.6
I have galaxy skyrocket with 2.3.5 and pretty happy with it. A friend installed ICS on his and on a quick glance I have not noticed any major benefits.
In general I am all for using latest software, but this is my primary phone and my life almost depends on it. I had some bad experience with experimental ROMs on my previous phone (it started hanging up and battery life decreased significantly) and this time I am cautious to upgrade and weighting pros and cons.
So, my question is: what are the major benefits on ICS compared to 2.3.5?
What major features I will get which would make it worth updating?
Thanks!
Pro:
Cooler apps
More aesthetically pleasing UX
ICS!!!
Con:
Terrible battery if you keep bloat
Not too much kernel modding
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I'll chime in. The GB rom's are MUCH better right now. ICS leak is slow, and tons of bugs. None of the devs are able to fix the bugs so the custom roms are simply themed, packages added/removed, etc, and all the ICS bugs remain. The only thing ICS really brings right now is a better launcher and the ability to run the few ICS apps out there. When I switched back to GB I couldn't believe how fast my phone was.
I tried the leak and was less than impressed by the difference.
I have been back on Gingerbread ever since.
Sky ICS speed, faux 010u.
Super stable and very modder friendly.
I was loving the nexusmod GB rom but i took the leap yesterday to jump up to ICS. i flashed the UCLA4 modem followed by superlite 5 and honestly, i'm loving it. its much more aesthetically pleasing, and zippy as hell. On top of that, add supercharger and the build.prop tweaks mentioned earlier in the general section and you have a blazing fast UI.
I haven't noticed any battery drain yet, i think that might've been fixed in this latest version. It's honestly draining the same rate as it did on nexusmod. I get through a day with about 20-30% while listening to music, texting my gf regularly, and connected to wifi to play words with friends/draw something.
My vote : get yourself up to superlite
I tried the ICS leak stock (rooted and debloated).
The negatives out weighed the positives I get. In particular the battery life was worse. I got 4-6 hours less life from each charge.
Also some of the bugs, such as losing root and restart/reboot lock ups did not show up for a few days after I installed ICS.
I am back to 2.3.5.
It works well for me, YMMV.
Just wanted to see if anyone else in here with the soak test build is noticing a 4.1.1 experience that is lacking. 4.1.1 on my Xoom seems to be missing the buttery smoothness in Project Butter. All stock, and the screen transition's frame rates are the same as in 4.0.4. The new transition effects are there, but it's far from being as buttery smooth as my Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
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Just wanted to see if anyone else in here with the soak test build is noticing a 4.1.1 experience that is lacking. 4.1.1 on my Xoom seems to be missing the buttery smoothness in Project Butter. All stock, and the screen transition's frame rates are the same as in 4.0.4. The new transition effects are there, but it's far from being as buttery smooth as my Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
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I'm pleased somebody else has noticed this, I've only had the OTA update for a couple of hours and was wondering what all the hullabaloo was about.
Performance and responsiveness seems on par with ICS IMO, Perhaps it will improve with a factory reset which I will do later.
Using Dolphin browser I have noticed that some video reports on online news sites seem to be very stuttery and not as good as they were with ICS, presumably due to the lack of flash support in JB.
I just got OTA 4.0.4 ICS (wth) wheres JB?
My experience is different. I always Factory Reset my devices when changing OS names (HC to ICS, ICS to JB) as I don't like having all the settings/configurations/app data stuff "upgraded" in place and prefer a clean install of the OS (upgrade OS then Factory Reset) and then configure and install my apps.
I was running my Xoom on stock ICS with root and a 1.5ghz kernel. My Xoom on stock (but rooted) JB at 1.0ghz feels exactly the same if not even a tad smoother more fluid, especially switching between apps. Even running 500 Mhz slower, it suffers no loss and feels to have made a some gains. Looking forward to running an overclock kernel on JB.
ICS 4.0.4 @ 1.5 ghz smooth/fluid
JB 4.1.1 @ 1.0 ghz just as smooth/fluid, maybe even a little more
zeiroe said:
Just wanted to see if anyone else in here with the soak test build is noticing a 4.1.1 experience that is lacking. 4.1.1 on my Xoom seems to be missing the buttery smoothness in Project Butter. All stock, and the screen transition's frame rates are the same as in 4.0.4. The new transition effects are there, but it's far from being as buttery smooth as my Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
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Mine was running like garbage after the update as well. Had the same issue after the ICS update (resolved that by taking the images off of my Xoom). This time I went ahead and did a factory wipe. Night and day difference - the thing is flying now.
Just got JB. Not really impressed so far tbh. No visible difference in speed, and animations are very laggy now.
Edit: Also, the boot animation hasn't changed. Starting to wonder if something's gone horribly horribly wrong here. (Version: 4.1.1, build number JRO03H)
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Just got JB. Not really impressed so far tbh. No visible difference in speed, and animations are very laggy now.
Edit: Also, the boot animation hasn't changed. Starting to wonder if something's gone horribly horribly wrong here. (Version: 4.1.1, build number JRO03H)
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No, all is well. The boot animation did not change. I feel that the update gets faster over time. Do a reset, then use extensively for a few days and I bet you will be buttery smooth in no time
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Thanks it is getting better after that. I do like a new boot animation though
Hi,
at the moment, my Nexus S is in maintenance/repair because of a defective Lock-/Power-Button.
When i get it back, it will be resetted to default. Using Stock 4.1.2 ROM i experience a frequent amount of lags, for example when i start the browser.
According to some Google+ Posts, there is no official 4.2.2 from Google, because the Nexus S got a too small amount of RAM.
Because i have to reinstall everything anyway, i thought of trying out a Custom Rom maybe.
What is your general advice ?
Is there a chanche, that a Custom 4.2.2 ROM is performing better, then Googles Stock 4.2.2.
My smartphone is my every day swiss army knife, so stability is an important point.
Thank you,
Christian
4.2.2 roms run great on my Nexus.. I can't fault them. I use Jellyshot as my daily (super stable) . I alternate with Slimbean sometimes.. If you don't like it , you can always install a rooted 4.1.2
easter_ said:
Hi,
at the moment, my Nexus S is in maintenance/repair because of a defective Lock-/Power-Button.
When i get it back, it will be resetted to default. Using Stock 4.1.2 ROM i experience a frequent amount of lags, for example when i start the browser.
According to some Google+ Posts, there is no official 4.2.2 from Google, because the Nexus S got a too small amount of RAM.
Because i have to reinstall everything anyway, i thought of trying out a Custom Rom maybe.
What is your general advice ?
Is there a chanche, that a Custom 4.2.2 ROM is performing better, then Googles Stock 4.2.2.
My smartphone is my every day swiss army knife, so stability is an important point.
Thank you,
Christian
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hellybean 4.2.2 is the best rom i have ever tried. used to have microlags with every other JB i tried but this one is amazing. try it
I'm also running hellybean and it's a nice daily driver
I'm also trying out different kernels with the rom. Marmite is ok but I miss the BLN.
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It all depends on your taste and overall experience with 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 ROMs.
And trust me, the above point makes it subjective for every single user.
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I just downgraded to this stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366 . Had some good and bad experience with 4.2.2 - few times it worked normally, but all other times i got really bad lags. So decided to downgrade and now I'm happy how fast it works (after CM 10.1). So depending on how much RAM 4.2.2 uses, I suggest 4.1.2 - less cool features, but more usable.
4.2.2 has had the best performance and battery life of any ROM I have tried... CM10.1
TRIUMF said:
I just downgraded to this stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366 . Had some good and bad experience with 4.2.2 - few times it worked normally, but all other times i got really bad lags. So decided to downgrade and now I'm happy how fast it works (after CM 10.1). So depending on how much RAM 4.2.2 uses, I suggest 4.1.2 - less cool features, but more usable.
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I also have kind of poor performance on 4.2.2. Sometimes it will be fine, but I will start streaming via Google Music or SiriusXM over Bluetooth and it will skip randomly. I also notice random spurts of lag just navigating around in the phone. Battery life, I am lucky to get 12 hours out of a full charge. Running the latest JellyShot 4.2.2. Was on slimbean or something before that with the same issues.
Thinking about going back to 4.1 unfortunately.
Hey.. Im selling my nexus s tomorrow and have a question. Im currently on 4.2.2 3.0v jellyshot+matrix but have occasionally random reboots. Can somebody recommend a stable 4.2.2 configuration ? And which kernel is best to use with stock 4.2.1 if I decide to downgrade ?
Thanks!
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Hey.. Im selling my nexus s tomorrow and have a question. Im currently on 4.2.2 3.0v jellyshot+matrix but have occasionally random reboots. Can somebody recommend a stable 4.2.2 configuration ? And which kernel is best to use with stock 4.2.1 if I decide to downgrade ?
Thanks!
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Sell it with stock 4.1.2. Nobody likes a half stable, customized by a stranger rom when they buy a new phone.
Rasbeanjelly 4.1.2... Or flash again jelly shot !!!
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Sell it with stock 4.1.2. Nobody likes a half stable, customized by a stranger rom when they buy a new phone.
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This!
Can't agree more.
I've been using jellyshot with marmite and seeder apk since jellyshot arrived and I can tell I can't find a rom more stable
Even though it's not great for gaming, but it's the smoothest for anything else.
I found JellyB-TSM to be a very smooth ROM but the latest version is at 4.2.1. Also, it does not have the Quick-pin unlock feature (even though it claims it does).
Another smooth ROM is of course Slim Bean but hands-free bluetooth does not work for me.
And just today I loaded Helly Bean (recommended here) and it looks promising and hence my recommendation as well :good:
I fell there isn't any difference between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2.May be the nexus S firmware
Just flashed from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2. It seems bit laggier and apps crashes more but then again these are nightlies just wait for the next stable rom and there wont be any problems.
I`m using Jellyshot and at first I was ready to reflash something else but after a week it is super stable and i`m getting around 30-35 hour battery life.
Finally found a 4.2.2 ROM as good as a 4.1.2. Been using Backed Black Bean 8 and it's great.
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Finally found a 4.2.2 ROM as good as a 4.1.2. Been using Backed Black Bean 8 and it's great.
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I also have been using Baked Black Bean only problem is latest version experiences memory leak problem.
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The lure of "features"
As there are over (20) 4.2 rom possibilities, coupled with around (10) different kernels, and varying differences from phone to phone, there is no real answer as to what works best.
Once you can cure the addiction to flash (never happening with me..) you'll find that the more feature packed the rom is, generally, the poorer the overall experience is. Whether it be bugs, smoothness, or speed. Adding bells and whistles only opens more opportunity to have issues. I admit that I enjoy scrolling through the endless menus to change colours and add features/alter layout... 4.2 roms hold exciting possibilities, but are not yet perfected.
I would recommend either Jellyshot or Rasbeanjelly on pure stability, speed and smoothness... They may not technically be the fastest, smoothest or most stable (as opinions differ) but they both have incredible battery life and are clutter free. Once you actually use your phone for a phone you quickly forget about all the "amazing" features that don't really improve the overall experience.
My wife has a NS as well, hers is completely untouched stock 4.1 (refuses to let me change it), she complains about speed, lag, fc's and it completely freezing up. She has never complained about not having a lockscreen widget or a holo notification screen. I use hers once in a while and it is not more stable, faster or better in battery life than mine (Jellyshot and Vta2#116 kernel).