I made some wallpapers, 960x800, to fit perfect on the Incredible. I just realized most of them are blue. I'll add more as time goes on, so bookmark the link below.
flickr.com/photos/bannedwidth/sets/72157623897382213/
Uh.. ok, I don't know how many posts are required before I can post links.
Sweet backgrounds!
Thanks ... Grabbed two of them
An Incredible wallpaper!
I threw together what I think is a neat Heroes theme. If you're fans of the series and I didn't think it was too "in your face."
I end up putting icons in the blank areas and it looks pretty good. I like it with the lockscreen as well.
Can you guys do any Unreal or Robotech wall papers?
Here's some wallpapers i resized for the Incredible, I did NOT make them
all credit goes to there respective creators.
I also increased the pixel's dot pitch to 192dpi so these should look great on our Incredible's
I'm also taking requests, donations are glady accepted for time consumption, but not expected
I was near an Office Depot today and stopped in to see if they had the G Tablet on display. Sure enough there it was very close to the front of the store in an Android tablets display. I had never seen the device in person before and based on what I have been reading I was expecting to see literally the worst screen I have ever seen on a device. Imagine my surprise when I hit the power button and was presented with what was in my opinion a very nice display. Sure if I changed my viewing angle to an unnatural position it started to look worse but it's a tablet! I'm literally always going to have it directly in my line of sight. When used in this manner I thought it looked great!
I have bought and returned an iPad 2 due to terrible backlight bleeding. One thing that struck me as much better about the G Tablet screen was that it was much less pixelated than the iPad 2 screen. Web pages were sharper as was the overall interface. In my opinion the viewing angle issue has been greatly overblown.
This unit on display was running in the classic mode and even then it was quite sluggish. I'm not sure if this should be attributed to the fact that Viewsonic's ROM is simply awful or if this particular unit had an issue. Regardless I'll be rooting and installing one of the preferred ROM's on my device anyway so performance will not be an issue.
For $279 this is looking like quite a value, can't wait to receive it!
Nice to read this. I was also expecting to see a really crappy display that blacks out the second you tilt your head a fraction. Really glad to hear that this isn't the case.
Now I'm about to stand on my head to get a shipping email. Ain't gonna happen until at least Monday.
Good lord. I wasn't this anxious for Xmas when I was a kid ;->
Metal_in_Silk said:
Nice to read this. I was also expecting to see a really crappy display that blacks out the second you tilt your head a fraction. Really glad to hear that this isn't the case.
Now I'm about to stand on my head to get a shipping email. Ain't gonna happen until at least Monday.
Good lord. I wasn't this anxious for Xmas when I was a kid ;->
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You are funny but I get you nothing like the anticipation of a new tech toy. You will love gtab particularly thinking about how much you paid for such a fun device.
The screen is fine in landscape mode as you indeed will position it at a natural angle and everything will be fine. Just so I am clear, by natural, I mean you don't really position the display perfectly flat in front of your eyes, you tend to look at the screen having your eyes positioned higher than the screen (unless your the kind of person who enjoys having his arms in the air). This is when colors are the most uniform from top to bottom. if you were to raise it or lean it back too much so that you end up positioning your eyes lower than the bottom of the tablet, you get past the screen's viewing angle.
This is only problematic in portrait mode (which I seldom use). For example, if you rotate your tablet so that the top is now facing left, you then need to position the tablet to your right a little to get the same color uniformity as you need to keep both your eyes over the top of the tablet.
If they made xooms or ipads with this screen for 300$ in addition to the 600$ "perfect screen", I would chose the 300$ one as you easily get used to it.
To put it in perspective, the touchscreen is not sensitive enough on a tiny area at the top left corner of my g-tablet and I have trouble taping things there (where the home button is located on VEGAn tab and the battery icon on gAdam). Comparatively, this is by far a worst problem than the viewing angle in my mind.
I think it looks bad, when I have it laying down I can't see a thing. When I show friends something I wonder if they can see it. It's not the worst but it could be much better
(Devil's Advocate)
I've had my GTAB since November and I do love the device - it's a modder's dream since it's very difficult to fully brick. Got mine used on the cheap and I feel that the hardware itself is solid. Except the screen.
You are 100% correct that it's fine when using spot-on in landscape, but tilt it ever so slightly down and solarization begins. And, in portrait mode, even the slightest tilt will change the screen image significantly.
I didn't really notice this flaw at first. It really took me at least a week or two of using it for various things before it became noticable. Trying to play a game where you need to move the device around a lot, playing a video when it's flat on the table and you are looking at it from an angle. Or reading comics in portrait mode.
The iPad1, for all its faults (and there are many), has a fantastic IPS screen that eats the GTAB's for lunch. I have a SmartQ R10 with the same screen and that's what I use for reading comics... not the GTAB. I think the screen has been the #1 hardware issue here in XDA since the forum opened - so much so that there are several threads on trying to get a replacement screen that would fit.
Here's a post I made over at Slatedroid comparing the GTAB angles with a Xoom and an R10: http://www.slatedroid.com/index.php?/topic/15865-screen-angles/. Those pictures are very accurate.
Not trying to kill people's excitement - just understand what you're getting - it's still a GREAT bargain and a great device. But the screen angles can be a problem, depending on what you use it for.
As for the question on speed -- imo, 3389 (and even the latest 3588 release) are still a bit sluggish, as you mentioned. Several alternate ROMs out there will improve speeds significantly as they are using newer drivers that Viewsonic has yet to incorporate into a released firmware.
I should think that those of us who don't plan to watch videos or play games will be quite satisfied with it.
Thanks for the comparison pictures -- that was a great service to those of us on the fence The viewing angle issue, while noticeable, now seems tolerable to me. I'm torn between grabbing a Xoom tomorrow or ordering a G-tab from Tigerdirect tonight (kicking myself for being such a wuss and not getting it from Woot...). Aside from the screen, my biggest concern is that the G-tab will never get Honeycomb, and if it does, whether or not the lower resolution will make it incompatible with tablet apps. I love Android, but I don't want to use the tablet as an oversized phoneless phone for too long.
Decisions, decisions ...
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Here's a post I made over at Slatedroid comparing the GTAB angles with a Xoom and an R10: http://www.slatedroid.com/index.php?/topic/15865-screen-angles/. Those pictures are very accurate
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From those pictures I doesn't look that bad. Sure IPS has better viewing angles, but most people use a TFT monitor on their computer at home, and they dont complain. There is a down side to IPS and its the refresh rate that can cause ghosting. Plus think of it as a semi security feature, it will be harder for people to look over your shoulder and see what you are up to.
Google seems to be really bent out of shape with getting AOSP out for 3.0 - my guess is that Moto is really paying them them a nice sum to keep the Xoom as the ONLY HC device around.
If one Harmony based device gets HC, someone will probably manage to port it to ours. We just need that first device to get it. But that may not be for a long time. And agreed on the screen, but keep in mind that the Notion Ink Adam has the same screen so if they manage to port it, then the GTAB will likely get it.
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From those pictures I doesn't look that bad. Sure IPS has better viewing angles, but most people use a TFT monitor on their computer at home, and they dont complain. There is a down side to IPS and its the refresh rate that can cause ghosting. Plus think of it as a semi security feature, it will be harder for people to look over your shoulder and see what you are up to.
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Agreed - the bottom line it what you plan to do with the device. Spot-on landscape mode looks like just like a netbook screen, because that's exactly what's in the GTAB.
docprego said:
I was near an Office Depot today and stopped in to see if they had the G Tablet on display. Sure enough there it was very close to the front of the store in an Android tablets display. I had never seen the device in person before and based on what I have been reading I was expecting to see literally the worst screen I have ever seen on a device. Imagine my surprise when I hit the power button and was presented with what was in my opinion a very nice display. Sure if I changed my viewing angle to an unnatural position it started to look worse but it's a tablet! I'm literally always going to have it directly in my line of sight. When used in this manner I thought it looked great!
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People like to exaggerate. I don't know why, but they like to do it. It's also because this unit doesn't cost as much as, say, the ipad.
My brother, someone who always wants the newest and greatest, came over to visit today with his 2 kids. I let the kids play with the device because they were curious. My brother started criticizing it after I told him how much I paid for it. First, he criticized it for the small internal sdcard. I had to tell him that the ipad has the same amount of internal space. He then accused the battery of not lasting long enough. I had to tell him that actually it's right up there with the ipad. He then picked it up and said it was too heavy. I told him that it only weighed .22 lb more than the ipad. Not to be outdone, he claimed that .22 was too much more than his ipad. He then said it must be really really slow. I brought it over to him and showed him that it was running just as fast as his ipad. He started playing with it and then he said "aha, it doesn't have 3g."
The point is he had never seen the gtab before. Actually, he had never heard of it before. Yet, he didn't like it at all. It was obvious he was desperately looking for reasons not to like it.
I did notice that even though he was looking for every reason to criticize it he never noticed the screen being "bad". So, obviously the gtab screen isn't really that bad. People online who are bashing this device describing the screen as the worst thing ever to have existed (or something like that) are just exaggerating because they are looking for a reason to bash the device.
It's no different than a typical netbook or laptop screen. Why the bloody hell is it a life and death issue all the sudden?
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It's no different than a typical netbook or laptop screen. Why the bloody hell is it a life and death issue all the sudden?
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Because with a netbook / laptop screen, you are looking at it at the same angle 90% of the time. A tablet is a different animal - you have it flat on your desk, or in portrait mode reading a book, or moving it around if you're playing a game. It's not at the same landscape mode / angle all the time. Completely different device.
Here's a perfect example: I was playing that evil and life-draining game Angry Birds earlier today. On my Xoom tablet, I have a tendency to play it where the screen is leaning back slightly on my palm, as that's comfortable for one handed play. Screen is fine. But on the GTAB, when I play it that way the screen solarization can be seen - I have to force it to be more spot-on to my line of sight, but that's not as comfortable in my hand.
That's the difference, and why it's not really that noticeable until you really start using it day-to-day for a long period of time.
Don't get me wrong. I notice it, too. It just doesn't bother me like it supposedly bother other people. But then again, I was born in a house with a dirt floor and grew up with a 4 inch black and white tv, so I guess my standards aren't as high as yours.
Thanks for the link to the comparison roebeet. I think I can live with that. One of my (major) pet peeves is having a co-worker peer over at what I'm doing, makes me want to do a Three Stooges eyepoke. This should actually work in my favor as:
1) I won't have to outen some nosy body's eyes when I check msgs
2) Will probably save my job and/or a lawsuit one day (see #1)
Still excited and bouncing in anticipation LOL it's been ages since I've played around with mods on a device. Really looking forward to it
Metal_in_Silk said:
Still excited and bouncing in anticipation LOL it's been ages since I've played around with mods on a device. Really looking forward to it
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Just ordered mine, in the same boat as you Tigerdirect the estimated arrive date as the 29th, but Memphis tends to get things a little quicker *fingers crossed*
goodintentions said:
Don't get me wrong. I notice it, too. It just doesn't bother me like it supposedly bother other people. But then again, I was born in a house with a dirt floor and grew up with a 4 inch black and white tv, so I guess my standards aren't as high as yours.
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In my house, my kids call me "the cheapskate". I set new lows for standards.
And at least you had a TV - I used to make dioramas with cartoon cutouts in them to make my own cartoon shows. And I liked it!
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Just ordered mine, in the same boat as you Tigerdirect the estimated arrive date as the 29th, but Memphis tends to get things a little quicker *fingers crossed*
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Lucky you! You'll be modding and playing Angry Birds while I'm still waiting on a shipment confirmation
Srsly, this is gonna be some fun. The screen doesn't suck as bad as I thought it would and playing with the various mods will be a very welcome distraction from doing ppls taxes
roebeet said:
In my house, my kids call me "the cheapskate". I set new lows for standards.
And at least you had a TV - I used to make diarrheas with cartoon cutouts in them to make my own cartoon shows. And I liked it!
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Now THAT was an interesting mental image
dfin13 said:
Thanks for the comparison pictures -- that was a great service to those of us on the fence The viewing angle issue, while noticeable, now seems tolerable to me. I'm torn between grabbing a Xoom tomorrow or ordering a G-tab from Tigerdirect tonight (kicking myself for being such a wuss and not getting it from Woot...). Aside from the screen, my biggest concern is that the G-tab will never get Honeycomb, and if it does, whether or not the lower resolution will make it incompatible with tablet apps. I love Android, but I don't want to use the tablet as an oversized phoneless phone for too long.
Decisions, decisions ...
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When I played with the xoom up close I noticed the bad viewing angles too. At that price unacceptable but at the price of the g tab understable they already gave you quite a lot for little money, costs had to be cut somewhere. Xoom should be top notch. I started to buy it until I saw the viewing angles and build. The SmartQ awesome. I actually need another tab for work with a different operating system but did not find the ipad engaging enough. I hate the slow rate of trickle with these tabs.
Looking at the last picture unless they were swapped the xoom looked washed out to me. SmartQ held it's own in every picture.
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Now THAT was an interesting mental image
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Darn spell check screwed up. But maybe I should have left it - it was a more interesting response!
edirector said:
When I played with the xoom up close I noticed the bad viewing angles too. At that price unacceptable but at the price of the g tab understable they already gave you quite a lot for little money, costs had to be cut somewhere. Xoom should be top notch. I started to buy it until I saw the viewing angles and build. The SmartQ awesome. I actually need another tab for work with a different operating system but did not find the ipad engaging enough. I hate the slow rate of trickle with these tabs.
Looking at the last picture unless they were swapped the xoom looked washed out to me. SmartQ held it's own in every picture.
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Yeah, it's a bit washed out once the angles go past a certain point - I think it's just the nature of a TFT screen and probably can't be avoided. But slight angles (which you can't really see in those pics) are very good on the Xoom.
And x2 on the GTAB comment. At less than half price, it's still a bargain. We don't have HC either, but that's something that's potentially fixable, at least.
As for the SmartQ R10, the angles are great but it's a slow-as-molasses device (Telechips CPU with Android 2.1, only) - works fine as a cbz reader, however. What I'm still waiting for is an IPS screen paired with a Tegra 2 chipset. They are coming this year, allegedly.
I need quite a few of them for a robotics project.
They need to be small.. don't need to be high powered.
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Im kinda confused on what your looking for?
"looking for tiny cheap easy(wut?) to mod android devices"
If you mean cheap androids, you would be surprised how cheap they go on craigslist.
ediesel18 said:
Im kinda confused on what your looking for?
"looking for tiny cheap easy(wut?) to mod android devices"
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I'm looking for a few cheap phones "devices".
As small as possible.
That have:
touch input
small screen
blue tooth
Magnometer &/ accelerometer.
camera
usb
mSD slot
wi-fi.. gsm and gps not required.
For use for a swarm robotics project.
About 300 to 600MHz cpu's with 64 to 512 mb ram?
Guys i really need help finding some.. every year the most advanced project wins the prize.
My lecturer looked over my plans for 12 flying combat simulation drones.
The idea is to show some intelligence. so i need to keep the brains for these drones light and fast.
They will combat to death in a simulated Arena.. targets are marked with lasers and drones need to work together in teams of 6.
My Field of battle the school is going to kindly provide me is the foot ball field.
My plan is to setup blocks and walls and markers in the fashion of "Dota , LoL 5v5, Hon" maps.
And have 2 teams rip each other apart. till primary base tower is gone.
This i a huge project.. and i'm getting allot of support. but i have till the end of the year.
I already built 8 drones.. all identical.
But now i need the brains.
My first prototype i used a "x10 mini" but i'm hoping to find something cheaper and perhaps lighter..
This is a big chance to stop working crappy jobs and actually get my life into order.
help
Htc hero meets all of those. (screen cant really get smaller if you want cheap)
the usb on the phone might be proprietary but the other end should be fine.
I saw them start of in the teens on ebay.
hope i help. plz thank if i did.
HTC Wildfire.
Very inspiring thread. Sound like a really cool project and I would love to see the result
I can recommend phonearena (website) which has a comparison tool. You should be able to find the best device for your project.
Good luck.
Looks like you wont get any smaller than the x10 mini. the wildfire S is a good option too(little lighter than hero) but not as many and not as cheap.
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Looks like you wont get any smaller than the x10 mini. the wildfire S is a good option too(little lighter than hero) but not as many and not as cheap.
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I managed to track down a few X10 mini's for quite dirt cheap.
I looked at the other devices but the mini makes the most sense for the project.
i have wasted US$800 on this
I understand that these forums are most likely largely male dominated and some of my male friends were disgusted when seeing what I recieved today (and females)... but there are so many viewers there's got to be some girls out there alike myself who would go for this sort of thing~
I received this today:
http://imgur.com/a/GM7GD#0
I found it while contemplating getting one of these:
http://www.facebook.com/SoTotallyLame
But since they were too expensive I went for a cheap asian alternative.
Pros:
Very cute, ridiculous etc.
Your phone looks edible.
Good build quality - these bits of candy won't be coming off any time soon
Cons/practicalities:
Makes your phone a lot heavier (1.5x?)
Because it's so fat and heavy, it's a lot more difficult to handle the phone than not having it
Difficult to press the power button
The material they made the cream out of and a few other things is a bit sticky, so lint and dust will easily cling to it
Just looking at it will make you crave candy
I'm definitely going to use this for a few days to see how it goes.
It was roughly $20, took 2 weeks to get to me (1 week before I was expecting it). It came in a delicate white bag was well packaged. It had a nauseating plasticy smell.
Anyway, for those who are interested, here are all the cases in the store for SGS.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/directstation-aus/_i.html?_nkw=i9000&submit=Search&_sid=1029916421
If anyone has found them cheaper, please tell me!
hicough said:
I understand that these forums are most likely largely male dominated and some of my male friends were disgusted when seeing what I recieved today (and females)... but there are so many viewers there's got to be some girls out there alike myself who would go for this sort of thing~
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You've got a very frilly sense of feminity, sister. Anyway, you can buy cases like this in FocalPrice (cheap, no shipping fees) or DealExtreme. Like this one:
http://www.focalprice.com/MSA11X/Cute_White_Cream_Red_Ribbon_Strawberry_Cake_Phone_Protective_Back_Case_Cover_for_Samsung_i9000.html#.UGhuYYgqdUA
For reference, something like this:
http://www.focalprice.com/MSC31B/Butterfly_TPU_Back_Case_for_Sumsung_i9000.html#.UGhvaogqdUA
is the girliest I'd put on my phone.
it looks nice but i dont think it will be suitable for daily use does it? it would make the phone more bulky and it wont be comfortable on hand (for me at least)
It's funny I actually like most feminin accessoires like this case, however from a professional point of view it's pretty much frowned upon if you have your "own style". It's different if you are in an artistic field of work, but choice is pretty limited for men in usual life.
Like this pink case for example;
http and the : and the // and then the link: cdn2.mobielbereikbaar.nl/product/OX11365740/accy-flip-case-genuine-leather-pink-samsung-i9000-galaxy-s-i9001-galaxy-s-plus_0 and then add .jpg
really liked it for it's colour. I'm just a straight male guy, and I bought the black version for above reasons, but I actually like the pink one more, just for its colour . It's easy to say "to do as you like and don't mind what others think", which may be true if you are in high school, but it has its consequences in life for 18 and up.
ADD: you can't post links if you have less then 10 posts , and I do not like I need to spam before I can just USE the forums
The 10 post rules is there to stop the annoying spam bots. Don't worry, you will exceed 10 posts in no time
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