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So I've been noticing that after a certain amount of use my Hero eventually slows down to the point where typing on the keyboard is frustrating because of the slow response. I did some searching and I came across this online
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
since I'm no where near the level of a dev, I figured I'd put this out there and see if anyone can make heads or tails of it, and possibly create a signed-zip so we can just use the update feature in the recovery screen to flash it to our system.
Seems legit as a fix, and apparently this was something that was a known problem with Android 1.5 that I guess has been fixed with 2.0.
Any Dev help would be hot.
Excellent. Thank you for tracking that down.
The TL;DNR explanation: Location services are causing multiple "heartbeats" on the phone all on top of each other. One guy counted as many as 253 in 5 seconds. This consumes the CPU. I will look at the patch.
Would disabling location services be a temporary fix?
kynetx said:
Would disabling location services be a temporary fix?
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Yes. We're pretty close to 2.1 though so shouldn't need more then that.
ive seen this problem too but not until recently, it lags the phone and drains the battery amazingly fast.
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Yes. We're pretty close to 2.1 though so shouldn't need more then that.
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I'm taking a wait and see approach on the 2.1 progress right now, what's there looks very promising but without the camera, accel., & (for me anyway because I do have alot of apps that i use) a2sd, I'm content with Fresh 1.0, just wanna get help get that issue solved cuz I'm sure I'm not the only one who is experiencing it.
PS: I know I said I have alot of apps, but I know that's not the cause because the same thing happened when I did a wipe and just left things "stock" with Fresh Rom 1.0 for a few days
If they got the accel and wifi tether working, I'd make the jump to 2.1, but I need the accel for work, and the wifi tether for internet.
What app can be used to show the system_server process? I use task manager but it isn't listed. I want to monitor this process.
Also, does anyone know about the patch? How Do you apply it?
1) I can't answer the first question. I just took the advice here and turned all location services off. My phone is back to its snappy self. The only way I'm really impacted by having to do this right now (I'm sure I'll use this phone for more after 2.1) is using google maps. I already kept GPS off when I wasn't using it but having to go into the settings and allow Location Setting before using gmaps is a PITA.
2) I know very little about android and ROM DEV but think the "patch" is programming code, only useful to people who know how to read and write it.
jdlumley said:
What app can be used to show the system_server process? I use task manager but it isn't listed. I want to monitor this process.
Also, does anyone know about the patch? How Do you apply it?
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RoboTop???
You can use DDMS from the Android SDK toolkit to monitor processes running on the phone. Should be able to pull up a process list from there.
Now, I'm using Locale but not with Location settings for my different profiles. I also have Location settings turned on for use with Google Maps as well as the HTC Flip Clock / Beautiful Widgets Home. Surprisingly, my system_server process is sitting at 0% right now, and the phone has been on for over a day. Both DDMS and running "top -n 1" in the adb shell confirm this. If there's much of a change over the day, I'll be sure to let you know. So, it's possible that HTC found and fixed this issue with their SenseUI CDMA 1.5 build. Unlikely, but possible.
So I was seeing this issue even with the modified services.jar from that thread. Granted I didn't test it very long and it was only maxing out at 1%, but it was enough for me to feel that it wasn't working.
I have since removed HTC's location service. After rebooting it looks as if because the phone couldn't find HTC's service anymore it installed the stock one. Time to see if it makes any difference.
with my BB for example there was an application which rebooted your phone at a custom time that u have set .. is there an application that can be used to do the same with the hero? ... reboot device while u are sleeping.. so it runs nice and quick for u the next day?
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So I was seeing this issue even with the modified services.jar from that thread. Granted I didn't test it very long and it was only maxing out at 1%, but it was enough for me to feel that it wasn't working.
I have since removed HTC's location service. After rebooting it looks as if because the phone couldn't find HTC's service anymore it installed the stock one. Time to see if it makes any difference.
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On the Fresh ROM thread I thought you said that it was using 16% previously... and is this an issue that's apparent immediately or is it something that gets worse with time?
Any chance of including the modified services.jar in the next release even if it doesn't immediately appear to make a difference? I mean, if it's not crashing things and is supposed to be an improvement, then why not stick it in there, right?
Just read nearly that entire chain of messages. now somebody (fresh, ima callin you out!) dooo eeeet!
What's the word on progress for this in Fresh ROM? I have found it to be a very significant issue for me (and apparently so has my roommate), as I use location services quite a lot. GMaps being most in particular, but some other apps as well (Aloqa, Sprint Navigation). I'm really glad there's a workaround that doesn't involve a reboot!
I looked at the other link and I have downloaded both the services.jar file and the LocationManagerService.patch. Which one should I apply and do I apply it? I am having problems with this now.
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On the Fresh ROM thread I thought you said that it was using 16% previously... and is this an issue that's apparent immediately or is it something that gets worse with time?
Any chance of including the modified services.jar in the next release even if it doesn't immediately appear to make a difference? I mean, if it's not crashing things and is supposed to be an improvement, then why not stick it in there, right?
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The bug is that it gets worse over time. I can include it for sure. I believe the reason it's not working is because our hero's code is all stored in services.odex, not services.jar. And I haven't been able to deodex that file yet. But I'll include it regardless because it can't hurt.
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Just read nearly that entire chain of messages. now somebody (fresh, ima callin you out!) dooo eeeet!
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What's the word on progress for this in Fresh ROM? I have found it to be a very significant issue for me (and apparently so has my roommate), as I use location services quite a lot. GMaps being most in particular, but some other apps as well (Aloqa, Sprint Navigation). I'm really glad there's a workaround that doesn't involve a reboot!
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I'm working on testing whether disabling HTC's location service will fix our issue. However with the release of the kitchen I was rebooting my phone non-stop. Impossible for me to know if it was working or not.
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I looked at the other link and I have downloaded both the services.jar file and the LocationManagerService.patch. Which one should I apply and do I apply it? I am having problems with this now.
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The patch is designed to apply to the source, so that won't help you. The services.jar would replace the one that's already there.
turning off location has been a dramatic difference in speed. its obvious theres something to that. it would get so bad the whole phone would lag
DISCLAIMER: I am in no way responsible if any of this information destroys or has any negative effects whatsoever.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE FOUND THAT THIS DOES NOT IN FACT ENABLE MARKET USE, HOWEVER, IT DOES STILL WORK WITH GMAIL, CALENDER, ETC. AND I'M LEAVING IT UP IN CASE ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE IT A SHOT.
That said, this has worked for a few people so far without any problems, if you run into any I'll do what I can to help.
HUGE THANKS TO: brianb5010(this guide is almost word for word the same as his), kennyminot(helped in much the same way as brianb5010), and Keslynn. Without them this project would be nowhere right now.
Now, on to the guide:
Step one: Download the backup of the gapps from my site: link(please note, the link has been updated to go through adfly, 5 seconds of your time will help my continued development on this device, if you really don't want to use it, PM me and I can send you a direct link. If adfly leads you to a survey, back out and don't do anything there, these kinds of things are against the adfly TOS and they are working to remove them, thanks!)
Step two: root your edge, the easiest way is to download the z4root app from the Amazon marketplace, NOTE: this only works if using 2.2/ermine, if you are running an older version you will have to figure out how to root on your own(there are a few methods, and various guides for this out there).
Step three: Download Titanium Backup(the free version should work fine for this, but I recommend buying anyway, its a great app!) from the developers site onto your edge and install: link.
Step four: Extract the archive somewhere on your computer or eDGe, then copy all of the files found in the release folder(extracted from the archive) to your /sdcard/TitaniumBackup folder
Step five: Open Titanium Backup and wait for it to gain root, etc.(make sure to give it root privileges), then tap on backup/restore, scroll to the bottom of this list and you should see several (9) apps crossed out, tap on each and tap restore app + data. THIS IS IMPORTANT, you MUST restore the DATA!
Step six: You should be DONE!!! reboot and try out market, you'll need to sign in with your google account.
If you get an error go to step seven:
Step seven: At this point you may be able to access the market, but you might also need to do the "market fix", to do this you will need to edit the /system/build.prop file. Instructions can be found here, but if you want to do it the free way(a little harder), read on:
a. Download AndRootFile and use it to remount the /system folder as read/write, then open up a terminal
b. type "su"(without quotes) then type "vi /system/build.prop"(again without quotes)
c. use ijkl or the trackpad to navigate down to the line starting with: "ro.build.fingerprint"
d. change(use the i button on the keyboard to start editing in vi) that line to read: "ro.build.fingerprint=google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys"
FAQ:
Q: I'm not seeing many apps in the market.
A: see this: youtube video
Q: I'm getting a download error on every app I try to download, and a google talk connection error.
A: Please PM me and/or post here and I can try and figure it out, I had this error as well, and it may just be due to a faulty gmail account, but there may be another problem, either way I can likely fix it.
Question not answered? Post below or PM me! Also let me know of any spelling errors or things I missed, I know there must be some!
post 2 reserved just in case
Does this get gtalk working? Sounds like it based on your "had this problem" but just wanted to check.
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Does this get gtalk working? Sounds like it based on your "had this problem" but just wanted to check.
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Yes, the program works.
The problem I ran into had something to do with my normal gmail account, it wouldn't allow me to download anything from market or access google talk(gmail and youtube worked fine). So I reinstalled them and used the fake/throwaway gmail account I made just for these backups, unfortunately, I have not yet done enough testing to know whether or not the programs will work with any other google account. If this is the case I will release the username and password of the fake account so that others may use it to access the market(you can then add another account to sync with gmail, etc.) Unfortunately, the talk app does not yet let you switch which account you use it with, so you would have to seek out another IM app.
Of course until someone else tests this I don't know anything for certain.
EDIT: if anyone has been successful in this please let me know. One user is having problems with it on another board and I want to know if it is an isolated incident.
COPYPASTA FROM OTHER THREADS:
yes, I know what the problem is(I really should have tested more, I just got a little giddy and wanted to release lol), I'll hopefully have a new set of back-ups out tonight or early tomorrow(EST), until then you can still have fun with gmail, etc. and if you want you can try to get it working with market using the current set of backups.
If anyone REALLY wants to get on market before I release the newer backups PM me and I'll give you the username and password of the account that will work with the market, you will have to restore all the apps again(maybe not all but it can't hurt...) and then sign in with this user FIRST, then whatever other users second. Also, this will just fix market, talk will only work with this throwaway account, and you could add people but know that everyone using it will see them. Also know that this account will be public and should anyone start screwing with it I will delete it!
I'd rather no one make any purchases with this account anyway, as that could reveal your credit card and other details, but for free apps it should be fine.
AAAARRRGGHGHHHH!
lol. Seriously, I can't thank you enough for this, but I about died when I saw "LINK REMOVED, WAS A BAD SET OF BACKUPS, WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEXT 24 HRS. WITH AN UPDATED VERSION."
I'll keep an eye on the page, and I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out as soon as the backups return.
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AAAARRRGGHGHHHH!
lol. Seriously, I can't thank you enough for this, but I about died when I saw "LINK REMOVED, WAS A BAD SET OF BACKUPS, WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEXT 24 HRS. WITH AN UPDATED VERSION."
I'll keep an eye on the page, and I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out as soon as the backups return.
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If you want you can still download the backups from here: link, note that it will only work with gmail, calender, etc. and not talk or market, unless you PM me in which case I can give you the account that will activate market but only use it for free stuff because it will be a public account(talk will be similar in that everyone will see anyone you add). If your still interested PM me.
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If you want you can still download the backups from here: link, note that it will only work with gmail, calender, etc. and not talk or market, unless you PM me in which case I can give you the account that will activate market but only use it for free stuff because it will be a public account(talk will be similar in that everyone will see anyone you add). If your still interested PM me.
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Thank you, but I think I'll wait. No sense in risk unnecessary work later. Talk and Market are the only things that I couldn't get working without the backups, so it's probably best to wait for backups that will work nicely with them.
I'll just keep an eye on the site, and thank you VERY much.
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Thank you, but I think I'll wait. No sense in risk unnecessary work later. Talk and Market are the only things that I couldn't get working without the backups, so it's probably best to wait for backups that will work nicely with them.
I'll just keep an eye on the site, and thank you VERY much.
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Yeah, unfortunately it looks like it might be tomorrow when they come out, the way I have to do this requires internet access, and my backing up of the official forums is taking up a lot of my bandwidth, not to mention I'm getting quite tired myself.
Sorry everyone, but I've got to be heading off to bed now, I'll release the newer backups ASAP tomorrow, until then I hope you all enjoy gmail, etc.
Again, sorry for the inconvenience, hopefully I can have this all sorted by tomorrow.
Oh and really sorry if you missed the PM time, I wish I could have kept it open longer, but I really do need some sleep right now
Thanks a lot emusan - been toying with the backups from earlier today and kept getting the market download/talk error as well (tried a new account, reset data, etc.) - looking forward to the new backups!
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... the threats towards my property and insults against my character.
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illegitimi non carborundum
I'm sorry to have to say this, but it seems as though the newer backups are not going to work(in fact they seem to work less well). I hate to say it but I can't really promise that I can get market working anytime in the near future(or possibly even at all). I'll put back up the older backups so that you can at least use gmail, calender, etc. but unfortunately talk and market will not work for the foreseeable future.
I'm still going to keep trying(though I really can't spend as much time as I have been on this, sadly), but at this point anything I try short of writing a custom ROM will just be a shot in the dark. I'm currently in talks with a few developers who have managed to get market working on other devices, though it seems to require a custom ROM. I might try making one in the near future, but I've never really made an android one before, and given some of the quirks of the eDGe I'm not even sure its possible(at least not without losing reader capabilities ).
If anyone else wants to try and get market working themselves I'll try and help in any way I can.
Thanks to every member of the community for their support over the last few days, again I'm sorry to disappoint.
On the bright side, the newer official forum backup seems to be grabbing a lot more pages than last time(unfortunately this time it is MUCH larger, I'll make it viewable online without needing to download, but this means I'll have to wait for an upgrade of the storage on my server), and should hopefully be done within the next 24 hours.
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lol had to look that up, thanks.
Well, that's a disappointment to hear, but I can't say I'm shocked. The phone my fiance really wants got released as an ATT exclusive and we don't do business with ATT, so we may end up with an android phone in the house before too long anyway.
Of course, if you have a eureka moment, I'd love to know.
In any case, I appreciate the effort.
Were these apps acquired from a phone? When I tried them from my friend's android, gtalk just wants to use 3g
mime64 said:
Were these apps acquired from a phone? When I tried them from my friend's android, gtalk just wants to use 3g
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yes, though others have done similar with no problems like that... The main problem arises from the need to use the same google account with the backups and restored applications...
Thank you emusan! I just installed the gapps with your instructions and everything works, except for marketplace.
All I really wanted was to get calendar and my contacts sync'ed. This in itself makes the PE worth alot more to me than $125 I paid for the PE.
I tried the marketplace and I got "No android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
Will the trick with the build.prop fix this or are we stuck?
Anyways, will the sync'ing of the calendar appear in the PE calendar? I was looking for google calendar app, but I don't see one.
Anyways, thank you emusan and everyone else that contributed to make the PE worth more than I could have imagined.
Gary
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Thank you emusan! I just installed the gapps with your instructions and everything works, except for marketplace.
All I really wanted was to get calendar and my contacts sync'ed. This in itself makes the PE worth alot more to me than $125 I paid for the PE.
I tried the marketplace and I got "No android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
Will the trick with the build.prop fix this or are we stuck?
Anyways, will the sync'ing of the calendar appear in the PE calendar? I was looking for google calendar app, but I don't see one.
Anyways, thank you emusan and everyone else that contributed to make the PE worth more than I could have imagined.
Gary
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Unfortunately, it would seem as though we are stuck in terms of market and talk access for the time being. The PE calender app is just a modified version of the normal google one I think, I haven't tested it to see how well it works with this method of installing the google apps, but we will see...
I love the new market app on my dx
Thanks
Wow, this is great ill really like to make to make it work at least to download free apps
I was able to get Market and Gmail to work with a different method:
1) Copy Google Services Framework (2.2.1) and Gmail (2.3.5) from my phone (HTC Aria running FR008). Just the .apks, not the data! I used Astro or ES File explorer to back them up.
2) Install Framework, then Gmail.
3) Install new Market (version 3.0.27) from a friend.
4) Use Titanium Backup (paid version) to convert the Market app to a system app.
5) Open up Gmail, login with my account. Then everything works!
I had to edit my build.prop(as described in emusan's OP), THEN use the hack described by the video. Now I can see all my purchased apps as well as the rest of the ones I want.
Thanks for this!
Simple enough. After a long time of searching here and elsewhere, I have found no way to install the official HTC_IME keyboard on a ROM that doesn't already have it. Any attempts to do so just cause a Force Close upon trying to interact with it in any way.
And do not bother saying "just try _____ instead". If I wanted to try a different keyboard, I wouldn't be posting this thread.
I have a logcat that says "Unable to instantiate activity ComponentInfo", which I read is a problem with activities not being defined in AndroidManifest.xml. But unfortunately, the AndroidManifest.xml that comes with HTC_IME is junk. Trying to open it in any program either shows you what looks like non-western encoding, or it won't open it at all.
If anybody has any insight, that would be delightful. Either something I could try to make it work, or providing the logcat that shows all the errors that popped up, or something. Anything to finally get the Sense 3.5/3.6 HTC_IME working on our phones.
If nobody has any idea about this, does anybody at least know how I might go about figuring out any aspects of this problem besides the shot-in-the-dark Googling I've been doing trying to figure this out?
Just in case, I have attached the aLogcat file that I saved, filtered by the app to just show errors (which in this case, is only the errors generated by trying to access the keyboard via the Settings menu). If desired, I can generate and attach one for when you try to actually activate the keyboard via the Input Method operation.
I took the HTC IME apk from the HD revolution rom (system/apps) and pushed it onto my sensation's Virtuous Inquisition and I got it working except for the swype part.
I tried that. But unfortunately, CM7 is definitely missing libraries and/or other files needed by the apk file. Virtuous would be likely to have them because it's built from a Sense ROM, as opposed to CM7 most definitely *not* being built from anything but pure Android.
Someone had thought they found all the files needed to use the keyboard, but trying that did nothing for me, which means either more files are needed, or maybe something has to be done with the very messy and nearly uneditable AndroidManifest.xml file. But it seems that nobody on the forums has any idea. I had rather hoped that a developer might at least know, but of course I appreciate any input.
Would this work?
I'm not sure, but I'm certainly going to download it and give it a shot. Whether it works or not, thanks for the heads up. You've reminded me that I should also look around the forums of other qHD HTC phones in case somebody has figured something out in one of those.
Edit: Bah, of course the download link doesn't work. Every time I try, ESET kicks in and complains. Even when I shut it off. And once I finally got ESET to shut up, IE just refused to download the file anyway.
nvm i signed up for swype beta lol.
its a pretty fresh install, ota 015,twrp/magisk --SN fine.
i could install the typical things like openvpn,titanium,etc
but apk make problems,the usual tools wincomm/total,google drive...have access.
still the files get dl'ed, and i hit install,it goes up to about 90%.. then "app not installed"(11differend apk,from all kind of sources,and quite clean)
-the system is quite fresh, all 11 programs/tools would be a firsttimer on the phone
-i even cleared via twrp the delvic/art ,just in case.
i mean,i managed to hardbrick the phone in less then 6 hours after getting it(youtube link wrong boot img,and it could only get worse), unbricked it in 30 minutes via chinatool(needed that darn driver).
of course the 2nd day of install wont get smooth...
maybe someone has a idea,or maybe i have to get chinatool again...
I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
apps2sd clean broken apps then reinstall might help
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I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
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thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
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that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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I think you should just clean install the ROM again, seems like a bit of issue u got here.
true,
which method would be the most simple and best to avoid the issue
-reset to factory-sys (unsure if it fixes a broken sys,instead of just deleting all userbased stuff)
-twrp clearing and the whole rom again (this method might work,if wiping everything is included)
-taking chinatool and start with h2o then back to the realdeal ota15 (thats what i did before,so iam not sure)
its not that i dont know the methods,its more like..i want your opinion what would be the best solution to avoid it.
NoalFey said:
thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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Well first off I wouldn't mention lucky patcher again. It is a warez app and banned on XDA as are all mentions of the app. Also something to think about. App developers have been adding code that looks for lucky patcher and will not install if it is installed on the device. Some even cause the device to have random issues if it is installed. Heck I know one rom that removes it every time the user reboots their device.
As for the reviews. Dont put anything in the numbers. I can by 1000 downloads and 5 star reviews for about 50 bucks.
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
NoalFey said:
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
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I don't care what other sites do or say. Lucky is banned here as a Warez app. Bottom line.
It is the ai gle most hated app on this site. People have been flamed just for having the icon on their screen.
So I'll tell you what most others will as well. You will find no help here as long as you have it installed. Until you remove it you are on your own.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....lucky-patcher-broke-google-play-t3471231/amp/
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Lucky patcher is considered warez on xda and the discussion about it is prohibited. Yes, it does have legitimate uses, but as long as it also has illegitimate uses that cheat developers, it will remain classified as warez here.
Thanks!
speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
NoalFey said:
speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
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There is a few. The easiest way is to search before asking. You know filling the rules you agreed to when you joined. Also any app that can bypass paying for an app/service is automatically banned (depending on the app)
As for the mag. Use your head and common sense. You never listen to what a reporter says about something like this. Or really anything for that matter. They just repeat what they hear. They have no real understanding of what is going on or the risks involved. I bet that magazine didn't mention that lucky patcher has a history of privacy violations and wares being installed in the background right?
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
NoalFey said:
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
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Ad blocking has nothing to do with it. XDA has many of them all over the site. Look you will never be able to justify its use here. So we will end this here. If you need help again dont mention the app other wise you might get far worse flamed next time.
I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.
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I tried doing a search and couldn't find a relevant thread, but I have a few questions...
OK first, the issue that brings me here is the only web browser that I like (Boat) has long been dead and out of development, it's long not been on the play store but I've had the APK for a long time and just transfered it to every new phone I got so I could keep using it. I have tried finding a different browser, but I hate them all, none of them have any of the features I want. My last phone was running Android 9.0 and Boat was still working on it. Well, I got a new phone now (Pixel 4a 5g) that has Android 11 and boat still mostly works... except it crashes if I click the bar at the top to type in a URL and a few other bugs... but otherwise still works flawlessly.
1. So, I'm wondering first is it even OK for someone to look to hire a developer to basically update a dead app? Any website and contact information for the original developer no longer exists, but I don't know if it's OK for someone to take over a dead app like that, if it would be considered stealing or something.
2. Second, well if it's OK... I have the last APKs of the browser and I had used a guide to deconstruct the APK into a project thinking maybe I can figure it out and how to update it so that it still works but... yeah that's not happening. So I have the APK files and the already deconstructed into a project and was wondering where I can ask about hiring a developer just to basically update the app so that it still works (bug fixes only, not really making any changes to the look/feel/etc, just fix any bugs or code that's old and deprecated and doesn't work anymore)? And when I say hire, I mean like actually hire, with real money.
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First topic is about licence agreement and legal stuff. It is owned by "Boatmob, Inc." / "Digital Life International Limited" / "Crunchbase Inc.". Although the app was for free, it does not seem to be a free licences. But I am not an expert in this area.
About the browser app itself, I have seen that you were already active here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/boat-browser.3821682/
You either need a permission of the owning company and then maintain the app yourself (or via a hired dev), or you have to switch to another and still actively supported browser app.