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Strange issue with Wing and WM6.1 7.7 Rom...

Let me start by saying I'm sorry if this is the wrong section but it is in relation to Roms...
I had my Wing set up on ttran's Open Touch v3.0 Biggy for a goooood long time (it was around when v4.0 was coming out) and all was perfectly good. No real issues. Today my boss said "Hey, let's get your phone synced up to get work email through there." After explaining I really didn't want to, he assured me everything is flawless on his Palm which runs Windows Mobile. "I've got this down to a science." Well long story short, he jacked the phone up BIG TIME! I lost all my contacts, I lost all my SMS, the phone would lock up doing anything except to play a game, I couldn't load the old backup on my SD card (which was from HTC Backup program)... again, the phone was JACKED. I think it all happened when the email wasn't working right because some settings weren't right so he deleted Microsoft Exchange Server on the phone and then the issues started. Anyhow, I get home and figure I need to update to a new Bad Ass Rom so no big deal. I find ttran's newest 7.7 Rom and get it set up. Then I load up HTCBackup so I can restore the contacts, messages, etc. Once I do that, all the contacts are back (thank god) but when I go to check my messages, there's not even the option there!?! It only has "Setup Email." Not even the option as if SMS/MMS was nowhere to be found. I looked everywhere and NOTHING! So I flash it to the v3.0 and get the contacts back and it's fine now but I really like the look of the newer Roms (and might want to try some other cook's too).
So my question to you all is what am I doing wrong?!? I'm confused to a new degree and am just smart enough about these phones to get a Rom flashed, I'm far from technical. Please let me know what you all think here. I'm considering trying to HardSPL the phone and trying the new WM6.5 (do I need HardSPL for that?). The way I see it, if I brick the phone, I was considering changing to the new G1 anyway. lol I'd really rather keep this phone as there's so much cool **** I can do with it thanks to the amazing cooks here on XDA! Love this site and my Wing... it's the only phone I've ever had for 2 years and still love it.
Help!

Anyone have an idea?

Jus reflash the ROM to get back your MMS/SMS then restore the backup again ..

if you want to flash to most of the newer roims u do in fact have to hardspl for them to work and not brick your phome, as far as mms/sms, are you trying to retrieve your old messages hat were on your phone or just the option to be able to send and receive them, as far as i know once you flash you will always loose all your saved messages and if you just want the option, some dont have mms working you have to install arcsoft and network wizard and that should do the trick hope iv helped with your problem

I went ahead and reflashed it back to the 3.0 as it used to be, then installed the HTCBackup and restored my contacts. Sure I lost all the SMS/MMS but oh well. When I tried flashing back to the 7.7 and restored my contacts (since they would be lost again, is this normal?) but again, the Rom doesn't even have the option to do any sort of messaging. I said screw it and went back to the 3.0 and have it now. What I'm wondering now is why does the messaging now thread them like it used to? I get the messaging like any regular phone, one message at a time. The way it used to would keep a thread of messages from each person. How can I correct this? Should I just HardSPL the phone and go to a new Rom??

any ideas??

search threaded msg hack. should guide you through the steps

Can anyone help me find the network wizard for the Wing? I want to upgrade to ttran's 7.7 rom but the messaging doesn't work. I have searched on here and all I find are people saying you need to use it, nowhere on where to find it. Thanks!

as far as i remember, ttran's latest releases had a lot of bugs in it.. sadly, ttran lost his phone before having a fix on these bugs.. i also remember having a lot of sms/mms issues.. you can try reflashing again to rule out if its a bad flash..
the most stable/fast/reliable one is the open touch 6.5.. its the one with the clean front screen. this is what im using

Toxis said:
Can anyone help me find the network wizard for the Wing? I want to upgrade to ttran's 7.7 rom but the messaging doesn't work. I have searched on here and all I find are people saying you need to use it, nowhere on where to find it. Thanks!
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search = network wizard wing
fifth one

Thanks. Found it but it was already installed on my 3.0 which I've decided to stay with. I read that you need the Network Wizard to update your registry to get MMS messages but when I go into it, all it asks is my carrier. That's it. I also have an HTC Network Setup and that doesn't have anything of the kind either. Why is it everyone says something but I can't seem to find it and it looks so basic on my end?!?
Also, how do you get .rar games on your phone? Possible even?
Thanks everyone!

anyone familiar with updating the network?? I'm not getting it.

very interesting. I keep hearing that you need to edit your network settings but when I can't get it, I can't seem to get anyone who knows to answer me.

Well I guess this won't be an issue now. I appreciate.... well... ttran for coming up with clean Roms but I just wish I could've had help making it work. Doesn't matter now as I'll be getting an iPhone here soon. I've had more help in the last 48 hours on what I need to make it work with T-mobile than I have on this site since I came here years ago. I always get the short answers with no clarification and no one wants to help with that.
On a serious note, keep up the great work Chefs. The roms look great.

Hard SPL not working...irritating

I know there are other threads on this, and I have poured through them. Everytime that I go to unlock my VZW Touch Pro 2, with the radio ON, while it is SYNCED, i get an error stating that I already unlocked another device, and that I should donate if I wish to use the program commercially. I feel like I'm being ripped off here. I don't mind donating, but I don't like being forced into it. I have NEVER owned another windows mobile device before, nor have i unlocked one for somebody else. As a matter of fact, of ALL the people I know, I am the only person who actually HAS a Touch Pro 2.
The main reason I got it was because of the custom ROMS. I followed the instructions involving filing a ticket with the htc-unlock support site, but nobody has gotten back to me. The weekend is the only time I have available to do this, to be able to fiddle with it to make it usable in my everyday life before I head back out to work.
I would like to know WHY I am getting this error. Is it because somebody has usurped my phone's identification and used it for themselves? If that is the case, can they track that person down? Give me their IP address, tell me HOW they could have possible done it, etc. If that is NOT the case, then what other problems could their be. All the complaints about this problem have NOT been answered publically, people were just told to go to the above mentioned site, or to private message somebody.
That annoys me, I would like to know the reason WHY this is happening. It should be common knowledge, and should not be made hidden. I've scowered these forums, as well as PPC Geeks, and nobody has an explanation for this. Can somebody explain this to me?

same problem
I'm having the same problem. Today is my first attempt to ever flash a tp2 phone and I get the fatal error dialog (see below).. what is going on?
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Fatal Error
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Hard-SPL is for non-commercial purposes only, we have detected that you appear to already have unlocked another device, if you wish to unlock commercially, please e-mail [email protected] or [email protected] to discuss solutions; However if this is your first device, then please ensure that the radio is turned ON and retry
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OK
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archimedesjs said:
I know there are other threads on this, and I have poured through them. Everytime that I go to unlock my VZW Touch Pro 2, with the radio ON, while it is SYNCED, i get an error stating that I already unlocked another device, and that I should donate if I wish to use the program commercially. I feel like I'm being ripped off here. I don't mind donating, but I don't like being forced into it. I have NEVER owned another windows mobile device before, nor have i unlocked one for somebody else. As a matter of fact, of ALL the people I know, I am the only person who actually HAS a Touch Pro 2.
The main reason I got it was because of the custom ROMS. I followed the instructions involving filing a ticket with the htc-unlock support site, but nobody has gotten back to me. The weekend is the only time I have available to do this, to be able to fiddle with it to make it usable in my everyday life before I head back out to work.
I would like to know WHY I am getting this error. Is it because somebody has usurped my phone's identification and used it for themselves? If that is the case, can they track that person down? Give me their IP address, tell me HOW they could have possible done it, etc. If that is NOT the case, then what other problems could their be. All the complaints about this problem have NOT been answered publically, people were just told to go to the above mentioned site, or to private message somebody.
That annoys me, I would like to know the reason WHY this is happening. It should be common knowledge, and should not be made hidden. I've scowered these forums, as well as PPC Geeks, and nobody has an explanation for this. Can somebody explain this to me?
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celitrd2, I don't suppose you are also on Verizon by any chance? I think I will wait till some of those bugs are worked out before I try to unlock my TP2 again. I don't even get as far as you guys. Windows Vista sucks ass!

I finally got a response back after my inquiry to the support site. They didn't explain HOW it happened, but they asked for my IMEI # and supposedly they're going to remove it from the "already unlocked" lists or whatever. Hopefully it will work, I'll report back next weekend when i will get some more free time to attempt an unlock.

I have sprint. I created a support ticket on on their site along with my phone imei# yesterday... still awaiting for their response.
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celitrd2, I don't suppose you are also on Verizon by any chance? I think I will wait till some of those bugs are worked out before I try to unlock my TP2 again. I don't even get as far as you guys. Windows Vista sucks ass!
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Even on windows Vista, you shouldn't be having a problem using the unlocker.
I do know that a friend of mine tried using the HSPL Unlock on his computer, and kept running into problems. Turns out his phone was trying to sync with WMDC while he was unlocking.
Have you by any chance tried Plugging the phone into the computer. Let the phone completely sync with WMDC, then go into settings and deactivate auto sync. from this point you should be able to Do the unlocker without having any problems.

The problem I'm having isn't WMDC, it's the exe file within the zip. It will extract on the phone, but when I copy it over to desktop, a file with 0 bytes appears and becomes unaccessable. If I unzip it on the PC, no file appears. They said that AV programs will think it's a virus and prevent it from even showing up. So I disabled Windows Defender and Spybot, yet the same problem still happens. See, the PC with Vista is my sisters. I have XP on mine but no internet (except for VZ broadband on my phone, but that cant be used in this case). Everytime I use Vista, the damn thing irritates the hell out of me. Is anyone familiar with the services that run on Vista? Perhaps maybe you know what else needs to be turned off. There are no other AV programs except Norton Internet Security, and that isn't even enabled. I dont think that would do anything anyway since it's for incoming internet data streams.

Same Deal
I have a sprint tp2. never tried to flash before, ever. Have donated over 40 dollars now to olipro and feel pretty ripped. every time I do everything step by step active sync to the cab file download...but oh yes...the "fatal error" message every time. I'm sick.

Well I went to check the status of my ticket today, and it shows that it was closed. So being as stupid as I am, I assumed that the problem was resolved and I should be able to unlock my phone. I grab my phone, grab my usb cable and hook it up to my computer. I let everythign SYNC, I ensure the radio is on, and then I open up the unlocker. I click auto-flash, wait for the button to pop up to start the flashing, and sure enough I get the error message stating that I already unlocked a phone...etc.
What irks me the most now, is that when I let it be known to them that my time is limited, and the ONLY time I can fiddle with the phone is on the weekends they said I should donate to resolve the problem faster. That pisses me off, and it should piss off anybody who was forced into that situation. I would GLADLY donate money if everything worked properly, but it doesn't. I am going to start looking for a workaround for their security in the meantime. There were several leads on PPC geeks that I need to follow up, and I will not be donating if I am successful through those means. If, however, by some miracle they respond before then(which I doubt), I will be donating. We'll see what happens.

archimedesjs said:
Well I went to check the status of my ticket today, and it shows that it was closed. So being as stupid as I am, I assumed that the problem was resolved and I should be able to unlock my phone. I grab my phone, grab my usb cable and hook it up to my computer. I let everythign SYNC, I ensure the radio is on, and then I open up the unlocker. I click auto-flash, wait for the button to pop up to start the flashing, and sure enough I get the error message stating that I already unlocked a phone...etc.
What irks me the most now, is that when I let it be known to them that my time is limited, and the ONLY time I can fiddle with the phone is on the weekends they said I should donate to resolve the problem faster. That pisses me off, and it should piss off anybody who was forced into that situation. I would GLADLY donate money if everything worked properly, but it doesn't. I am going to start looking for a workaround for their security in the meantime. There were several leads on PPC geeks that I need to follow up, and I will not be donating if I am successful through those means. If, however, by some miracle they respond before then(which I doubt), I will be donating. We'll see what happens.
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I completely agree! I never unlocked my device before - it's completely new and the IMEI has never been used (and I KNOW this for a fact because I work for my provider and know this device is NEW not REFURB) - and yet I am being told that my device is already used and they have to remove my IMEI from the list and to do so I should give them money. WTF?
Anyone been able to unlock their device on the first try without contacting them and giving them money?

I gave up on this. Just going to stick wiith the stock ROM and upgrade to VZ 6.5 ROM. This is too much of a headache for me. I dont remember unlocking ever being this difficult on a device.

jerdog said:
I completely agree! I never unlocked my device before - it's completely new and the IMEI has never been used (and I KNOW this for a fact because I work for my provider and know this device is NEW not REFURB) - and yet I am being told that my device is already used and they have to remove my IMEI from the list and to do so I should give them money. WTF?
Anyone been able to unlock their device on the first try without contacting them and giving them money?
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I had no problems at all. Running windows vista ultimate on my home computer. These are the exact steps i took....Disable all antivirus and antispyware before you download (because it give a false positive and will delete some of the contents of the download), download the file to my desktop, allowed my device to completely sync, ran the exe file, followed the prompts and Unlocked the phone. I did use the paid unlocker though to do the sim unlock but I used the free unlocker for hspl. Make sure your not on a work or public network where someone else may have unlocked a phone. I read somewhere that it also prevents unlocks if someone on the same network unlocked a phone. Hope this helps.

[Q] New Update Available 7/26/2011

Today i woke up and noticed my HD7 was telling me that there is an update available. Anyone have any idea what update this is? I'm currently on OS Version: 7.0.7392. Zune tells me "Available Update: HTC Update for Windows Phone".

My HDy just gave me the notification. Ran to XDA to see if there was any information on this update. I am also running OS 7.0.7392.0

It's an HTC update, not sure what it addresses exactly. Took about twenty minutes start to finish and the only thing I've noticed so far is that message notifications aren't consistently showing up on the top of the screen. Sometimes, but not always.

Based on the news article on this update from pocketnow.com, it looks like the new update will:
- upgrade your firmware, radio, and bootloader versions.
- HTC Hidden WiFi app now works properly.
- camera fix (pinkish hue is now gone)
- GPS works better
Probably worth upgrading to. Too bad i'm on Mango.

I will hold of on this update for a while since my phone is Chevron unlocked so that i can use Navigon 3 that was opened up to us NA members by a great member here Kounadisk. If anyone uses this update and was Chevron unlocked can, you please post your results on if you are still unlocked or not? TIA...

Is this update US only? I have dev unlocked / unbranded HD7, and Zune shows nothing

PrinceVegeta978 said:
I will hold of on this update for a while since my phone is Chevron unlocked so that i can use Navigon 3 that was opened up to us NA members by a great member here Kounadisk. If anyone uses this update and was Chevron unlocked can, you please post your results on if you are still unlocked or not? TIA...
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Use "V1.6 Working App to Backup Windows Phone 7 via ZUNE ANY TIME" & make a back-up. Than go to C:\Users\"UserID"\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\"DeviceID(Something like 7c335bc8...)" & copy it to a safe place. Than do the update. At least than you'll have a back-up just in case. I am officially dev unlocked & it remained so. All my registry hacks (Max Apps,Banding Bug Fix, Some Volume Registry Edits, Custom Accent Colors, etc.) seem to be okay too. HTC most likely just updated the camera drivers & a few other things. It didn't take long to download, so the update isn't that big. Wish they'd fix the volume issue on the HD7.
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Is this update US only? I have dev unlocked / unbranded HD7, and Zune shows nothing
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From what I read, this is a T-Mobile USA update. Don't know if it's only USA though.
Another side note, it seems as though my screen's color is better after the update (I may just be seeing things).

[Q] How do I reprovision my phone to get the proper Mango update?

I have the RTM build installed and I came from the beta version. My phone has yet to receive the firmware update from HTC to let the HTC mango apps install. My wife has the same phone, went from nodo to RTM and she to the fw update a month ago.
I think I must have changed my provisioning in order to get the beta. How do I change it back, preferably without having to hard reset the device.
Many thanks in advance.

What did you do to get to the beta version? If it was just using the official tools, you should be fine. If you used a tool off XDA or a similar site, which one was it?
You could try Ansar's U2M7720 app, I guess, though I don't know if it will work for you. My phone got prompted for the retail build (from the beta) a month or so back. You can always try connecting it to Zune and doing the "pull-the-plug" trick, too.
Also, be wary of the latest HTC update. It will prevent apps like TouchXplorer from working. Specifically, it breaks the HTC ComRegRW.dll and ComFileRW.dll libraries. COMDMXML.dll, used for ProvXML, seems to still work, though. The big problem is that this means you can't use Connection Setup to interop-unlock your phone. If you interop-unlock on 7720 before installing the HTC update, you will keep interop-unlock. However, if you get both updates together (which is how MS is now pushing them out), or if you later lose interop-unlock for any reason, you won't be able to get it back!

I have tried pulling the plug for hours and it never works. Very annoying as I have got it to work with other peoples phones which have not had RTM on them.
When I went to the beta I used provision.exe and the beta version of mango. What should I do from here?

Update your Zune

I did update zune but nothing. In the end I pushed the cab file of the firmware to the device, big improvement, smoother and louder. Still not sure if I have the right provisioning but my device is bang up to date for now.

Samsung Focus stuck on Omnia ROM

So let's start this thread by saying I was stupid.
In my desperation to upgrade my ROM I went and flashed my Focus with the new Omnia engineering rom. Stupid yes but it flashed. The reason I did it was non of the Samsung focus retail Roms would flash with the WP7 flashing tool not even the jK2 ROM. Which is suppose to be the basic 7004 ROM.
Every time I flashed it would say "This Rom does NOT match the device" or "this device is NOt retail."
So let me just state I had the "RTM Mango" flash on my device already flashed and worked. I was trying to upgrade the firmware and radio stacks. The phone aways worked and was NOT a demo device.
I have tried to flash:
1. jK2 stock Rom same error as above
2. Rom for v1.4 won't work same error as above
3. Rogers Rom on my AT&T focus same error as above.
Basically the only rom that flashed was the engineering rom for the Omnia.
Now the phone boots (with a Omnia splash screen ) I can get it to download mode I can even use the phone just none of the buttons work! I really just want to get a Samsung focus rom back on don't care if it's not Mango at the moment.
My questions:
1. Anyone got an engineering rom for the focus seems to be the only Roms that can load on my device
2. Anyone got some advise to get it back to a Samsung focus rom?
I know I shouldn't have but it's done and can't cry over spilt milk.....
I would really appreciate the help.

I'm not sure what you mean by Jk2's rom, but have you tried the 1.3 version, not rogers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131022
this thread has rogers, att 1.4 and att 1.3, all for focus. Ive successfully flashed my 1.3 focus several times. Also, in this thread they talk about how flashing 1.4 is always iffy.

Best way to get back to a Focus ROM is probably to restore a backup that was taken when you upgraded the phone. I hope you can still connect the phone to the Zune software? If so, try that.
The Omnia has physical buttons, the Focus uses capacitive buttons only (for the front three). I'm not surprised the drivers are different.
Did you by any chance use a hack to get NoDo on the phone? The "debranding" hack shouldn't prevent flashing, but will result in you receiving a different ROM from the upgrade servers than was quite meant for your phone. Chris Walsh's update hack did not install the full set of update packages it should have, resulting in what has become known as a "Walshed" phone. Walshed phones, because they're kind of partway between updates, can't receive further updates. A tool was later released to fix a Walshed phone.
The fact that the Focus ROMs wouldn't flash but the Omnia onw would is quite odd; I'm not sure what would cause that.
If at all possible, I recommend restoring your phone to a retail configuration using a Zune backup, and them trying the official update path again. Only once you've exhausted your options there should you try anything else.

GoodDayToDie said:
Best way to get back to a Focus ROM is probably to restore a backup that was taken when you upgraded the phone. I hope you can still connect the phone to the Zune software? If so, try that.
The Omnia has physical buttons, the Focus uses capacitive buttons only (for the front three). I'm not surprised the drivers are different.
Did you by any chance use a hack to get NoDo on the phone? The "debranding" hack shouldn't prevent flashing, but will result in you receiving a different ROM from the upgrade servers than was quite meant for your phone. Chris Walsh's update hack did not install the full set of update packages it should have, resulting in what has become known as a "Walshed" phone. Walshed phones, because they're kind of partway between updates, can't receive further updates. A tool was later released to fix a Walshed phone.
The fact that the Focus ROMs wouldn't flash but the Omnia onw would is quite odd; I'm not sure what would cause that.
If at all possible, I recommend restoring your phone to a retail configuration using a Zune backup, and them trying the official update path again. Only once you've exhausted your options there should you try anything else.
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Firstly thank you for the time you took to reply.
Yes the history of this device is quite a lengthy one. I did do a NODO hack to get it to NODO. I then used the internal MS bits leaked to the net to force it to Mango. I was picking up some funnies like no matter how quick or soft I pressed the back button it would go into multi tasking making the phone impossible to use.
So I looked and researched and found my firmware, bootloaders etc were way out of date. I flashed the Omnia rom onto the Focus in hope that it was the same phone but alas its to late now......
Ok so when I connect it to the PC Zune picks it up all dandy but as a new phone - Omnia not my old focus. Is there a way to trick it into thinking its my Focus?
The phone functions in the sense that it boots, I can use it just don't have any buttons to use it with. All the screen functions work perfectly.
I will download Walsh tool to un Walsh the phone and try again...
I really appreciate the help!

I don't think you can "trick" it into seeing it as your Focus, because from a software perspective, it just isn't. However, the restore points (backups) are tied to the hardware, not the software. To see if you can restore one, first check in Window Explorer at the path %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\ and see how big the contents of that folder are. There should be hundreds of meg to a few gigs, depending on how big the backup is.
Now, that's only going to be the most recent restore point. If you made backups of your earlier restore points, you can send the phone even further back, hopefully to before quite so many things get messed up. However, each time you do an update with Zune it overwrites the location where the previous restore point was. Note that if you installed any updates through a mecanism other than Zune, for example usign the WPSHIFT tool that was used for the beta, it probably took a backup but might have put it in a different location (often in TEMP, which hopefully you haven't cleaned out).
If you have Volume Shadow Copies enabled on your PC (Vista/Win7/any recent Server), you may be able to use the Previous Versions feature to pull an older restore point than the most recent one, or to recover a restore point if it was deleted for some reason. Be careful, though - old shadow copies are deleted as space is needed for other things, but they aren't deleted atomically; it's possible you'll pull only half of an old restore point or something equally silly (they're made up of hundreds or thousands of small files).
Once you've got your restore point, I strongly recommend making a backup of it by copying the folder! Then, connect your phone and start Zune, and go to Settings -> Device -> Update. It'll probably say there aren't any updates available, that's fine. In the same part of the window where it says that, though, there should be an option to restore a backup (it'll give the date of the backup and a restore button). If that button isn't visible, re-copy the restore point over the location where Zune expected to find it (%localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\), and check for updates again.
As for the un-Walshing tool, it probably won't do anything on your OmniaFocus. It may fix the problem if you successfully use a restore point (and get back to a pure Focus), though. There's a good chance that the last restore point you have will be from right before you began the Mango update process, in which case your phone will be back in its Walshed state, ready for un-Walshing using the tool.
I hope that helps. If you do decide to try flashing again (if you don't have a restore point, this is probably the only option), make sure you're using a ROM for your hardware revision of the Focus. There are two, the 1.3 revision (the first one released), and the 1.4 revision (released later, identical except it uses a different Flash memory chip internally and therefore has different drivers). If you bought your phone any time in 2011, it could be either a 1.3 or a 1.4. There are a few ways to check, but one of the best (since your software is currently messed up) is to look under the battery. There's a sticker that should say soemthing like "rev1.3/rev1.4". You need to match that revision number when selecting a ROM to flash, or (even if it works) you wouldn't be able to access the phone's internal storage.
It seems a little unlikely to me, but it's possible that Walshing your phone made it report itself as an Omnia, thus the reason you could flash that ROM (but not the Focus ones). I'd expect that to be based on lower-level hardware checks, though.

GoodDayToDie said:
I don't think you can "trick" it into seeing it as your Focus, because from a software perspective, it just isn't. However, the restore points (backups) are tied to the hardware, not the software. To see if you can restore one, first check in Window Explorer at the path %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\ and see how big the contents of that folder are. There should be hundreds of meg to a few gigs, depending on how big the backup is.
Now, that's only going to be the most recent restore point. If you made backups of your earlier restore points, you can send the phone even further back, hopefully to before quite so many things get messed up. However, each time you do an update with Zune it overwrites the location where the previous restore point was. Note that if you installed any updates through a mecanism other than Zune, for example usign the WPSHIFT tool that was used for the beta, it probably took a backup but might have put it in a different location (often in TEMP, which hopefully you haven't cleaned out).
If you have Volume Shadow Copies enabled on your PC (Vista/Win7/any recent Server), you may be able to use the Previous Versions feature to pull an older restore point than the most recent one, or to recover a restore point if it was deleted for some reason. Be careful, though - old shadow copies are deleted as space is needed for other things, but they aren't deleted atomically; it's possible you'll pull only half of an old restore point or something equally silly (they're made up of hundreds or thousands of small files).
Once you've got your restore point, I strongly recommend making a backup of it by copying the folder! Then, connect your phone and start Zune, and go to Settings -> Device -> Update. It'll probably say there aren't any updates available, that's fine. In the same part of the window where it says that, though, there should be an option to restore a backup (it'll give the date of the backup and a restore button). If that button isn't visible, re-copy the restore point over the location where Zune expected to find it (%localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\), and check for updates again.
As for the un-Walshing tool, it probably won't do anything on your OmniaFocus. It may fix the problem if you successfully use a restore point (and get back to a pure Focus), though. There's a good chance that the last restore point you have will be from right before you began the Mango update process, in which case your phone will be back in its Walshed state, ready for un-Walshing using the tool.
I hope that helps. If you do decide to try flashing again (if you don't have a restore point, this is probably the only option), make sure you're using a ROM for your hardware revision of the Focus. There are two, the 1.3 revision (the first one released), and the 1.4 revision (released later, identical except it uses a different Flash memory chip internally and therefore has different drivers). If you bought your phone any time in 2011, it could be either a 1.3 or a 1.4. There are a few ways to check, but one of the best (since your software is currently messed up) is to look under the battery. There's a sticker that should say soemthing like "rev1.3/rev1.4". You need to match that revision number when selecting a ROM to flash, or (even if it works) you wouldn't be able to access the phone's internal storage.
It seems a little unlikely to me, but it's possible that Walshing your phone made it report itself as an Omnia, thus the reason you could flash that ROM (but not the Focus ones). I'd expect that to be based on lower-level hardware checks, though.
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Thank you for the reply!
So looks like I am screwed. I looked for the backup and nothing on my machine even tried volume shadow copy and nothing in the Windows Phone Update folder.
I might have to try create a USB JIG to force a flash onto the phone. That should work right? That should flash which ever ROM I like regardless of the checks that things like WP7 Downloader do?
I would appreciate the guidance before I go ahead and build the USB JIG.

PS _ Anyone know what files are inside the backup folder maybe I can search windows for those and find the back up folder somewhere

The updates are usually stored here:
"C:\Users\%YOUR_USER%\Local Settings\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\"
Either search for a "RestorePoint" folder (without quotes) or "Data.0.dat" "Data.1.dat" etc files

EnderPsp said:
The updates are usually stored here:
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Either search for a "RestorePoint" folder (without quotes) or "Data.0.dat" "Data.1.dat" etc files
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THANKS so much I FOUND a backup C:\PreMangoState
This is when I did the Mango upgrade using the "MS internal leaked" files.
Going to try this.

I am going to suggest you try the engineering ROM for the Samsung Focus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968

day2die said:
I am going to suggest you try the engineering ROM for the Samsung Focus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
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THAT WORKED YOU ROCK
Now can I ask why only engineering ROM's are working and will I be able to get it to MANGO?

myphonerules said:
THAT WORKED YOU ROCK
Now can I ask why only engineering ROM's are working and will I be able to get it to MANGO?
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So as soon as I plugged it in Zune found the phone and upgraded all the upgrades all the way to mango
Thank you once again. Do you know what the latest GSM firmware is?

I have similar problem except mine is stuck on the samsung logo screen so cannot connect to zune.
I am trying to flash this engineering ROM that seemed to work for you, but it keeps saying Error!! "This Device does NOT match with selected binary. Downloader will NOT do anything" and thus the flash will nto complete.
Any suggestions?

neibl said:
I have similar problem except mine is stuck on the samsung logo screen so cannot connect to zune.
I am trying to flash this engineering ROM that seemed to work for you, but it keeps saying Error!! "This Device does NOT match with selected binary. Downloader will NOT do anything" and thus the flash will nto complete.
Any suggestions?
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Have you tried the retail roms (check the general forum there is a sticky with the retail roms) if you getting the error "This device does not match with the selected binary" with the flasher it could be one of two things:
1. Your device is not an engineering device and you need to use the right retail rom.
2. Which version of the WP7 Downloader tool are you using 7.05, 7.21 or 7.41?
For the retail ROM you should use 7.05
For the engineering ROM you should use 7.41.
7.41 comes with the new leaked Samsung OMNIA 7 ROM (Do a search for that rom) DO NOT FLASH (like I did ) the OMNIA ROM onto your focus it will not work.
The other question is if your phone is stuck on the "SAMSUNG" screen can you get it into DOWNLOAD mode (Turn the phone off, then hold CAM + VOL DOWN and POWER) It should then turn on and go into DOWNLOAD MODE. The WP7 tool will only see the phone is in DOWNLOAD MODE. From what you telling us with the error above you are getting into DOWNLOAD MODE but just confirm.
IMO if you can still get into DOWNLOAD MODE not all is lost.

I already have flashed the omnia ROM onto my phone that is why I am in this problem. I have reflashed the focus ROm but it is frozen on the logo screen no matter what I do.
Seems like this engineering ROM fixed it for the lad who created this post, so I might give it a try, what do you think?
Yes I can get the phone into download mode & also the format mode (it doesn't do anything though), I cannot connect the phone to zune because it freezes on the logo screen before launch. Also I have 7.03, 7.05, & 7.21 and have tried all of them thus far, did not know of the 7.41.
So 7.41 and flash the engineering rom? It sounds like you have some ideas, please share it would be greatly apreciated.

neibl said:
I already have flashed the omnia ROM onto my phone that is why I am in this problem. I have reflashed the focus ROm but it is frozen on the logo screen no matter what I do.
Seems like this engineering ROM fixed it for the lad who created this post, so I might give it a try, what do you think?
Yes I can get the phone into download mode & also the format mode (it doesn't do anything though), I cannot connect the phone to zune because it freezes on the logo screen before launch. Also I have 7.03, 7.05, & 7.21 and have tried all of them thus far, did not know of the 7.41.
So 7.41 and flash the engineering rom? It sounds like you have some ideas, please share it would be greatly apreciated.
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Ok so you need to download the latest Samsung Omnia 7 ROM it will have the WP7 Downloader 4.21. Thats the only one that will flash the engineering ROM onto the device.
Zune will not pick up the phone till it completely boots so Zune wont help you in this case. You have to try and fix it using your WP7 downloader(s).
This is the link I used to get the Downloader: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/10/15/update-your-samsung-omnia-7-to-the-latest-i8700xxki3-firmware-now/
Good luck!

Engineering ROM did not work, still frozen on samsung logo screen, something is definitely broken on the phone that will not let it get past this point and I have no idea. Seems like no one else knows either as no one has been able to solve this for over 7 months.
If anyone thinks they can solve this please suggestions are welcomed. If you need more details please let me know. If someone can fix this I'd be willing to paypal them real cash no joke.
Much thanks to myphonerules for helping!
If I call samsung and complain will they tell me i'm out of luck? I got the phone off ebay so its not covered by anything.

neibl said:
Engineering ROM did not work, still frozen on samsung logo screen, something is definitely broken on the phone that will not let it get past this point and I have no idea. Seems like no one else knows either as no one has been able to solve this for over 7 months.
If anyone thinks they can solve this please suggestions are welcomed. If you need more details please let me know. If someone can fix this I'd be willing to paypal them real cash no joke.
Much thanks to myphonerules for helping!
If I call samsung and complain will they tell me i'm out of luck? I got the phone off ebay so its not covered by anything.
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You sure you don't have a DEMO phone? Has it ever worked on a GSM network?

No its not a demo phone, i used the phone with my AT&T SIM card for few days. Then i put in a 32mb microsd card and after 24 hours it reset into a gimped mode with only 15 mb where i couldn't do anything and had no at&t apps on it strangly also. I flashed the samsung omnia 7 ROM onto the phone and would not load past the omnia 7 load screen. Then I flashed the focus ROM (it wasn't available originally) back and it would not load past the samsung screen. By this point I really just think the phone is completely done.
Any suggestions? or think its garbage?
I'm debating buying a focus with broken screen off ebay and using the screen from this one to replace it and bam pretty much new phone.

Is there a way to get a convert a non retail focus to retail? Is there a retail ROM available for the focus that can be flashed on the non retail version?