htcdev root or one click or other one? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Hello so im fairly new to rooting and other thing but i would like to enjoy the benefits of it
However i did not find any comparison between these rooting method. so if someone could tell me the pros and cons of each that would be a really great help guys!
I need to choose one that i can unroot about a year later easily
im also running 1.94.631.3 and 4.0.3 on Rogers network

HTCDev: Pro: Gets ADB set up, learn how to unlock your bootloader properly and actually get knowledge out of the process, exposes you to cmd commands and fastboot.
Cons: Can be overwhelming if you don't have any previous exposure to ADB, cmd or fastboot
One-Click: Pro: Simple, automated
Cons: Don't learn anything, lose the ability to troubleshoot yourself and risk posting noobish questions, no guarantee that it will work for your particular firmware version so your mileage may vary.
I would personally recommend the HTCDev route. I have a guide that I wrote to root my Telus HOX and it works on the Rogers version as well.

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[Q] can you differentiate the terms used in android development

hi I am a noob in xda i have been wondering what are the different types of methods used for android development can you help me out?
First I would like to know the meaning of these and what their function is, I have been looking through the internet and I have a really crappy computer that sometimes I am just too lazy to search the internet. I have been looking for instructions on how to root my phone (sk17i) but I just dont seem to understand the meaning of unlock bootloader, custom kernel, flash, root, ROMs, MODs and all the other terms. I just want to understand what the above terms mean and what are their individual finctions. If you could add more or a complete list of these terms I would really appreciate it.
Second is this a step by step process? For example after unlocking the bootloader should I root my device or can I proceed without rooting ? And also can I root without unlocking the bootloader as mentioned is it really necessary to do it in a step by step procedure?
Sooorrry I am a NOOB

[Q] Newbie again

Hi guys
I am new and never flash firmware on HTC before.
I have go HTC one XL from hongkong unlocked with JB (just recently got the official download) but not happy with the data connection speed and it is very slow for some reason. ICS was better than the Hongkong official JB release unfortunately.
Since I am in Australia I want to flash my firmware with the stock rooted Telstra [ROM] 01/01/13 Stock rooted odexed JB Telstra_WWE_3.17.841.2.
Can some one pls point me to the right direction - I am not sure where to start (previously I own SG2 and flashed firmware no issues).
I am aware that there are more options on how to flash in HTC I am abit worried that I might follow the incorrect steps
Thank you
Unfortunately, some changes were deployed in the official JB update which causes the touch screen to not function if you try changing to any ROM that is not also Sense JB. So currently, if you flash an ICS ROM, the touch screen will not work.
Devs may be working on this. But its more likely that it won't be solved until we have kernel source for JB. Until the issue is fixed, you are stuck with Sense JB ROMs.
If you still want to be able to flash custom ROMs, the proper sequence is:
- Unlock bootloader at HTCDev.com
- Install TWRP recovery
- Download custom ROM, and copy to phone's SD
- Flash ROM in TWRP
- Flash boot.img using fastboot
You can start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
redpoint73 said:
Unfortunately, some changes were deployed in the official JB update which causes the touch screen to not function if you try changing to any ROM that is not also Sense JB. So currently, if you flash an ICS ROM, the touch screen will not work.
Devs may be working on this. But its more likely that it won't be solved until we have kernel source for JB. Until the issue is fixed, you are stuck with Sense JB ROMs.
If you still want to be able to flash custom ROMs, the proper sequence is:
- Unlock bootloader at HTCDev.com
- Install TWRP recovery
- Download custom ROM, and copy to phone's SD
- Flash ROM in TWRP
- Flash boot.img using fastboot
You can start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Cheers for the reply.
Yes i still want to flash the telstra jb available hoping that performance is going to be abit better.
Do I still have to unlock my bootloader? Eventoughmy phone is unlocked? Sorry for the basic questions. I will have a read on the link as well. Thanks guys
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Hi guys
Been trying to read the suggested link. I am seriously confused.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader?
Is the any tutorial for complete newbie?
Thanks guys
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2
ardabelati said:
Hi guys
Been trying to read the suggested link. I am seriously confused.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader?
Is the any tutorial for complete newbie?
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You need to read until it makes sense as a complete newbie will just end up bricking the phone.
You do need to unlock the bootloader. Your phone may be "unlocked" in relation to allowing any SIM from any provider, but that is 100% unrelated to unlocking the bootloader.
The Telstra 3.17 is unlikely to make any difference to the Hong Kong based 3.17. They are almost identical except for the few Telstra apps included.
Have you checked that your APN is set to telstra.wap so that LTE will function? The Hong Kong phones ship with incorrect settings for Telstra.
You could refer to this link for help, but ignore it's advise to set telstra.internet as that is incorrect(it is only for 4g modems, not phones) and will prevent some Telstra apps from working correctly:
https://support.mobicity.com.au/ent...up-the-htc-one-xl-on-telstra-s-4g-lte-network
Also you should check Telstras coverage as LTE is only available in limited areas.
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/coverage-networks/our-coverage/mobile-broadband/
Beyond these suggestions you should take up your speed issues with Telstra.
ardabelati said:
Do I need to unlock my bootloader?
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I already answered this in post #2 above. Don't know why you are asking the same question again.
Twisteddx beat me to answering your other questions, and I agree with all he said.
You're confusing unlocking the SIM versus unlocking the bootloader. SIM unlocked just means you can use SIMs for any carrier. Bootloader unlock removed write protection for certain partitions of the memory, allowing you to install custom recovery, custom ROMs, etc. SIM unlock and BL unlock are not related in any way.
I'm not a huge fan of simple tutorials. They invite you to try mods with a minimum of knowledge, which is really the opposite of what you should do. Read up, and learn as much as you can, as twisted mentioned, you will be performing things that can cause permanent damage to the phone if not done completely properly. You need to have a deep understanding of what you are doing before you start. Even if you follow the steps to the letter, things all-to-often go awry. And being armed with as much knowledge as possible is the best way to prepare for such events.
The amount of information can be daunting, for sure. But once you become more familiar with the terms and basic concepts, you will probably see its actually not that complicated. Maybe start with some of the "Misc Guides" at the bottom of the 1st post of my Index thread, such as the Terminology glossary. Look at other posts by similar users in Q&A, and go from there.

[Q] Is it possible to unroot or un-unlock the device?

From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
3DeX said:
From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
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If you just want root to use joy2touch, then your warranty is still good. If you unlock your device, then your warranty is voided... you can find more information about unlock and root here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Good luck..:fingers-crossed:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
3DeX said:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
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A rooting is allowed you to access your system files so you can modify them as will. A unlocking is allowed you to install custom rom and recovery. Someone else may have a better explaination for you.
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
LetMeKnow said:
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
Uhm... you are confusing me even more. So is there a rooting guide that doesnt involve unlocking, can be reverted or doesnt void warranty, and works with newest stock OTA?
To my knowledge I dont have any kind of bootloader.
_that said:
Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
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Thanks _that. What I meant is the latest firmware from Asus.
@3DeX
1. Download the Asus firmware 10.6.1.14.8
2. Backup your personal data and everything that you like to keep to your computer or your external SD.
3. Make sure that your battery is full so it is not shutdown during the installing process..
4. Unzip it once because there is another zip file insde it.
5. Copy the second zip file to the root directory of your internal SD.
6. Reboot your tablet.
7. After reboot, you will see the downgrade notification in the lower right corner.
8. Click on the downgrade notification and follow the instructions.
9. During the installing process, Do not try to turn it off. It will reboot by itself when the installation is completed. It may take 2 to 3 minutes..
10. Use motochopper to root your device.
Good luck..

[Q] Need an assist: Root, Unlock bootloader on a VZW Tab2 7" with VRBMI1

Hello, all
I have looked and searched. I have seen a few threads and a few posts, but cannot find anything concrete about this. I even officially bricked a device trying to follow a thread (to the letter).
I have rooted and unlocked several devices in the past, and installed many ROMs before. However, this device is proving to be a pain.
Recently I purchased the Tab 2 (SCH-i705) for a very low price. It was shipped to me running Android 4.1.2 (on Verizon) and the baseband is VRBMI1. I saw MrHyde03's post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885558) on rooting and unlocking the bootloader. However, when I flashed the aboot.img file, it toasted my previous device. No power-up, no USB recognition, no nothing. Managed to take it back and got it traded out for a new device. I now have a new Tab2, but the same setup. What I want to do is run the Slimkat ROM.
My long winded question is: can I do this? I know Verizon has made it tough to unlock the bootloader, something needed in order to add a custom recovery. Does anyone know of a method that will allow me to add the Slimkat ROM to this device? I know not many people are using it or developing for it any longer. But any help would be appreciated. Again, I have seen what MrHyde03 wrote up, but I am afraid I will brick another device by trying to flash an aboot.img file.
I did see this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48392009&postcount=1) about using Safestrap and not actually unlocking the device. I am currently doing that on my S4 since Verizon has it locked down. But I would not be able to run the ROM that I want.
Any help or pointers would be great. Thanks for reading and helping.
Cheers!
You can root it, but I don't think you can unlock the bootloader anymore. The root method is linked in one of those Hyde threads near the end. It's not his method... there's a "one click" for multiple devices that works great.
JelloB said:
You can root it, but I don't think you can unlock the bootloader anymore. The root method is linked in one of those Hyde threads near the end. It's not his method... there's a "one click" for multiple devices that works great.
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That's what I've realized. Bummer too. I'll go take a look. I hadn't seen a one-click method. Everything I've seen has to be done via Odin & ADB.
If you happen to find the easy method, let me know!

Is it worth rooting / flashing the Mate 9?

I love this phone and have had it for more than 2 years now, and have no plans of upgrading and will use it until it breaks down. Since I don't expect any updates any more, I was wondering if its worth rooting and flashing an Android 10 ROM (any recommendations?) this phone, especially since I want to use the Google camera that only works with Android 10. But as I read the guides and threads here, it seems rooting is more complicated than other phones.
So, is it worth it?
tukmulin said:
I love this phone and have had it for more than 2 years now, and have no plans of upgrading and will use it until it breaks down. Since I don't expect any updates any more, I was wondering if its worth rooting and flashing an Android 10 ROM (any recommendations?) this phone, especially since I want to use the Google camera that only works with Android 10. But as I read the guides and threads here, it seems rooting is more complicated than other phones.
So, is it worth it?
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To flash a custom ROM you don't need root but unlocked Bootloader.
If you didn't obtain BL code when it was easy and free or cheap, that is now complicated and expensive (although still possible)- look at some other threads where people asked about flashing and it always comes down to the question about unlocking Bootloader
zgfg said:
To flash a custom ROM you don't need root but unlocked Bootloader.
If you didn't obtain BL code when it was easy and free or cheap, that is now complicated and expensive (although still possible)- look at some other threads where people asked about flashing and it always comes down to the question about unlocking Bootloader
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I see. Thank you. Looks like I'm stuck with stock then. Thank you! It doesn't make sense to me to root if I can't flash anyway since I won't be able to get Android 10. The phone has excellent battery life and I have no complaints about speed. Unless there are benefits to just rooting that I don't know about?
tukmulin said:
I see. Thank you. Looks like I'm stuck with stock then. Thank you! It doesn't make sense to me to root if I can't flash anyway since I won't be able to get Android 10. The phone has excellent battery life and I have no complaints about speed. Unless there are benefits to just rooting that I don't know about?
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Did I miss, but you didn't mention the most important fact - what is your EMUI version.
Supposing you are on 9.1 or 9.0 since you are asing about Android Q....
For rooting you must also flash (e.g. Recovery-Ramdisk patched by Magisk to get root, on EMUI 9), so it again comes down to the same problem about obtaining the Bootloader code (locked Bootloader prevents Fastboot from flashing) - to get a picture why is it complicated to obtain the BL code, please read like:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-reached-dead-t3978105/post80497731
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/hi-to-downgrade-firmware-versions-gpu-t3917826
However, you can still do useful modding without TWRP, root, custom ROMs - that is, without the need to unlock Bootloader, see:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/modding-removing-bloatware-blocking-ads-t3971297
zgfg said:
Did I miss, but you didn't mention the most important fact - what is your EMUI version.
Supposing you are on 9.1 or 9.0 since you are asing about Android Q....
For rooting you must also flash (e.g. Recovery-Ramdisk patched by Magisk to get root, on EMUI 9), so it again comes down to the same problem about obtaining the Bootloader code (locked Bootloader prevents Fastboot from flashing) - to get a picture why is it complicated to obtain the BL code, please read like:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-reached-dead-t3978105/post80497731
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/hi-to-downgrade-firmware-versions-gpu-t3917826
However, you can still do useful modding without TWRP, root, custom ROMs - that is, without the need to unlock Bootloader, see:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/modding-removing-bloatware-blocking-ads-t3971297
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Awesome! Will look them up. Thank you so much! These are invaluable resources.

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