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[Q] Droid Charge Full backup?

I've had my Charge for a few weeks now. I've been silently reading the forum this whole time. I've downloaded the tools and I'm ready to kernel/root/rom it... But I like to be cautious. Everyone always says "HAVE A BACKUP YOU TARD!" but I can't seem to find any information on the topic pre-root.
So... Is there some way to backup everything on the phone prior to tinkering with it so I can put it back if something goes bad?
I did search.. Couldn't find anything for the droid. Lots of mentions of titanium. I downloaded it but it's for rooted phones as well.

No. Clockwork doesn't do a proper backup now. (And it doesn't back up the kernel anyway.)
Just changing the kernel and rooting won't alter anything that flashing the original kernel can't undo. So do that, get Titanium (I suggest the pro version, since it's the flasher's best friend), and use that to back up your user apps before you take the step of flashing a full ROM.

I'm a total newbie to this stuff, so this is something I've been wondering about as well.
s44- So changing the kernel and rooting you would say is a pretty safe venture to start with? I'm a fairly technical guy in general, but haven't ventured into the realm of phone rooting before, so I'm a little anxious about possibly bricking my phone right after I got it.
Is there something I would need to do beforehand to enable me to flash the original kernel, or is that just something you can always do after rooting? Thanks for any info.

We have odin. Thanks to odin we can always flash back to stock rom. If you look at the development forum you will find the stock package that no matter what you do you can always go back. Just dont mess with the radio or the pit file. Always us pda in odin unless you are flashing a new radio and you are instricted todo so. For user apps and data you can use titanium backup
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Excellent, thanks. I assume you're referring to the stock ROM at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190
What exactly does flashing a new radio do? I'm not really familiar with the terminology

ColonelSeitan said:
Excellent, thanks. I assume you're referring to the stock ROM at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190
What exactly does flashing a new radio do? I'm not really familiar with the terminology
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Flashing a new radio means replacing the current modem/voice radio's software with a new/different one. There's currently no flashable radio softwares that I know of for the Charge. There are two radio softwares for the phone, though: the original version shipped with the phone, and the new one that started rolling out last week with the EE4 OTA update. That update is a patch to the old radio software (a patch is a method that changes only portion of the current software rather than overwriting the whole thing).
Hope that helps you understand a bit better.

Can't back up my phone.
I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.

BlackMagicNights said:
I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.
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first of all don't use Rom Manager for anything on the Charge as it doesn't work right... second of all nandroid backups can be made on Gummy 2.0, you would need the most up to date CWM from Imnuts thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112804, it should be orange and version 4.0.1.4

BlackMagicNights said:
I'm sorry if someone already posted this. I've been hours at it re installing ROMs. I have GummyCharged 2.0. I've tried doing a nandroid back up for the past couple of days. I've tried Rom Manager to back it up many different times and every time it shows that open box for a few seconds then it's just the android with a triangle /!\. I've tried backing up while on Recovery but at the end it can't find my SD-ext and doesnt back up. I can't find anything online relating to it. I'm gonna reinstall the stock and root it. I'll back up every time I change my phone and see when exactly it starts to fail. I'm still a noob at this.
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Rom Manager and the Charge do NOT work.
Make sure you're using the latest Recovery as that's the only one that's able to backup/restore and even then there's known to be issues.

Just gonna latch on here since this is a pretty recent last post...
I have recovery 4.0.0.8 and am trying to go to gummycharge GBE 2.0RC1.5, do I need to update my recovery first? I'm assuming I do to backup, but just wanted to confirm. And on the subject of updating recovery, I use ODIN just like I did for Gummy (except following what it says on that link, no auto reboot)?
Thanks, I've done enough rooting in the past, but not too familiar with CWM updating and ODIN.

JLCollier2005 said:
Just gonna latch on here since this is a pretty recent last post...
I have recovery 4.0.0.8 and am trying to go to gummycharge GBE 2.0RC1.5, do I need to update my recovery first? I'm assuming I do to backup, but just wanted to confirm. And on the subject of updating recovery, I use ODIN just like I did for Gummy (except following what it says on that link, no auto reboot)?
Thanks, I've done enough rooting in the past, but not too familiar with CWM updating and ODIN.
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if you're trying to do a CWM backup first then yes you would need to update CWM to the latest 8/17 build which you can odin separately... odining or flashing the new Gummy rom should update your kernel and thus update CWM

What is the latest cwm for droid charge. I had 5.0 on tunderbolt now only have 3.0 on Charge.

mickrg123 said:
What is the latest cwm for droid charge. I had 5.0 on tunderbolt now only have 3.0 on Charge.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112804

v4.0.1.4...backup no workee...MD5 mismatch!
When attempting to run a backup via CWM v4.0.1.4 I get MD5 mismatch! Yes...Im on the ROM that I'm attempting to backup. Any help would be kick [email protected]#...

Here's my 5 cents for what it's worth.
I only backup what I really need, rather than a full backup - that way I know I keep the DATA, not the old apps, outdated cache and setting etc.
To do this I use:
SMS Backup+ : Backs up SMS, Call Log
Evernote : I keep notes, screenshots, voice memos etc in sync using evernote. This of course only works if you like evernote
Eye-Fi : I move all my pictures of the phone using Eye-Fi. This cost of course, sorry, but it works (Plus you get a cool SD card for your digital camera). Other options exists, I hear a lot of good stuff about SugarSync.
Market and Amazon : All you apps are already backed up on Google Android Market or Amazon (dep. on where you bought/downloaded them from). Some people wants everything re-installed from the get go. I prefer re-install when I need it, I'm always near 4G so it literally takes seconds.
This has been working so well that I now don't think twice before factory resetting or upgrading firmware. I just do it.
Hope that helped...

Updating ROM with CWM just reverts to menu?

Hey,
I'm trying to install the [ROM] Team Tiamat Xoom Rom 2.2.2 - Moray [9/10/11].
I've got CWM installed (version recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img but also tried latest version from ROM Manager).
Each time i try to install the .zip it get's to opening package and then just exits to the CWM menu?
It's probably a common thing, but couldn't find anything from a search? Anyone got any ideas?

This has been covered many times so take the time to do a search.

Muffycheeks said:
This has been covered many times so take the time to do a search.
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I had to thank you Muffycheeks for your excellent answer. I am not sure why you did not at least give an indication about where to find the answer or what the issue is? Lucky this was posted in Q&A and not in the dev thread!
I am new to Xoom (only got it since yesterday) and have managed to get the bootloader unlocked and custom recovery installed. For some reason when I reboot the device the recovery is flash back to 3e (I suppose this has been also debated millions of times but I cannot find it yet...)
I had been able to flash one of the custom roms but it gets stuck in bootscreen. I wiped everything I could think of and followed a couple of advices and still not working.
I am downloading the other rom (as far as I can tell there are only 2 customs with one of them based on the other one) and will see if that works.
Sorry Addicteddddd for highjacking your thread but I have been searching for a while until I found your thread and I thought my issues were over to find the standard helpful XDA answer. Some people might have had their device for years but some other are quite new to this.
K.
EDIT: It seems that one of the recoveries do not advise if a ZIP file is bad and therfore comes back with no message. I suppose this is why this is happening.
I downloaded 3 ZIP files and they are all corrput. Not sure what is happening here but anyway.

kar200 said:
I had to thank you Muffycheeks for your excellent answer. I am not sure why you did not at least give an indication about where to find the answer or what the issue is? Lucky this was posted in Q&A and not in the dev thread!
I am new to Xoom (only got it since yesterday) and have managed to get the bootloader unlocked and custom recovery installed. For some reason when I reboot the device the recovery is flash back to 3e (I suppose this has been also debated millions of times but I cannot find it yet...)
I had been able to flash one of the custom roms but it gets stuck in bootscreen. I wiped everything I could think of and followed a couple of advices and still not working.
I am downloading the other rom (as far as I can tell there are only 2 customs with one of them based on the other one) and will see if that works.
Sorry Addicteddddd for highjacking your thread but I have been searching for a while until I found your thread and I thought my issues were over to find the standard helpful XDA answer. Some people might have had their device for years but some other are quite new to this.
K.
EDIT: It seems that one of the recoveries do not advise if a ZIP file is bad and therfore comes back with no message. I suppose this is why this is happening.
I downloaded 3 ZIP files and they are all corrput. Not sure what is happening here but anyway.
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I don't know if you used this guide but there is a bit of discussion of some issues regarding cwm recovery versions and some pitfalls while trying to flash.Check it out if you haven't
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Also, how are you downloading the file? Are you getting the right version? If you are using the R4c v3.2.0.0 it should be called solarnz, not tiamat. The guide has the correct link.

okantomi said:
I don't know if you used this guide but there is a bit of discussion of some issues regarding cwm recovery versions and some pitfalls while trying to flash.Check it out if you haven't
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Also, how are you downloading the file? Are you getting the right version? If you are using the R4c v3.2.0.0 it should be called solarnz, not tiamat. The guide has the correct link.
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I just ralised tnat my sd card was screwed (very old 1gb i found lying around). The files on the pc were fine.
I used a different card and now typing from a custom rom! All good.
K.
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[Q] Help with ClockworkMod 5.5.0.4

Can someone help please? I installed CWM Recovery thru ROM Manager. Rebooted in recovery to back up my ROM and now I can't get out of recovery. Every time I select Reboot System it reboots me into recovery.

Try here (if you can use NVFlash)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519635&highlight=boot+into+cwm

Like many others, When I saw the thread over in the Dev section about the 5.5.0.4 recovery, I jumped right in and fired up Rom Manager before reading any further in the thread.
Unlike many others, I don't get the same results. My TF101 reboots to the OS with no problem. However trying to reboot to recovery from recovery doesn't work. I have to hold the vol. down button just like a cold boot into recovery.
The only difference might be, that I had stock recovery prior to installing 5.5.0.4, due to having to recover from another soft brick condition after trying to install the CM9 Nightly that is now available over on the official Clockworkmod site. That one had failed miserably for my device.
Good luck with solving your problems with the new recovery. Wish I could explain exactly why mine seemed to work as advertised when most others didn't. But I don't know.
I do have the problem with the Removable MicroSD not being visible. Only the built in "Fake" SD Card.
Update:
I now have the reboot into recovery problem. I used the wipe data option from the VOL DWN/PWR button start up, and now have that annoying boots into recovery problem like everyone else. I hope that and the SD card problem gets fixed in the next version.

Thanks, got everything back to normal with NVFlash method I found by watching this :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VMHXeYMgPy4
Lesson learned!! :/

Curious where the thread in the Dev section went to, I cant find it this morning...
Unfortunately, some of us cannot use NVFLash to fix this problem.
So, is it too much to ask that the Dev who wrote Rom Manager and CWM actually look in to this for us?
I too installed the newer CWM through Rom Manager and need to cold boot to get in to the OS otherwise it recovery boot loops.

sandiegopaneraiguy said:
Curious where the thread in the Dev section went to, I cant find it this morning...
Unfortunately, some of us cannot use NVFLash to fix this problem.
So, is it too much to ask that the Dev who wrote Rom Manager and CWM actually look in to this for us?
I too installed the newer CWM through Rom Manager and need to cold boot to get in to the OS otherwise it recovery boot loops.
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Thread was closed. I was on it this morning and wanted to post a reply saying NV Flash work for me and I couldn't because it said the thread was closed.
I read the whole thing and apart from NV Flashing the was no other solution
How do you know you can't NVFlash?

yea , this morning the thread in the Dev section went to general , and now closed.
Perhaps we should follow this until everything is clarified.
the nvflash only work for b60 and some b70 tablets , most of b70 and b80 cant be flashed with this tool

I'm working on something to fix this, but I still need a little more testing.

gee one said:
I'm working on something to fix this, but I still need a little more testing.
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ok, then waiting
any clue where to attack the problem?

Some people reported the new recovery worked when flashed over stock recovery.

any help you can supply on this would be greatly appreciated. it's very uncomfortable not being able to count on your recovery.
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robb13 said:
Some people reported the new recovery worked when flashed over stock recovery.
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too late for us

I was up until 1am following the thread and posting my process, specs.
I am even more curious as to how the thread which was still pretty calm turned in to something that deserved being deleted.
In any event, I think we all understand that what we do is at our own risk. But CWM and Rom Manager have been the gold standard of reliability for quite some time. Once something is a trusted means by which to do something its even more disappointing to see that it no longer works.

the first post was moved because it was not exactly a development post
then, in the general section, I do not know why it closed, there is no explanation

so if microsd is not recognized, i can install rom from internal, right?

gandda12 said:
so if microsd is not recognized, i can install rom from internal, right?
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Install what??
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yeah, check out the troubleshooting thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530337

[Q] Problems with Clockworkmod

Ok so I'm currently trying to root and such and I was able to root my tab 2, but when i went to flash a ROM, Clockworkmod was gone, and all I had was the stock recovery. I found that I needed to use heimdall but I can't really figure out how to use it so that I can get my CWM back. I'm kinda newbie when it comes to how everything works, If anyone can help me somehow it would be greatly appreciated.

Look at the CWM thread in the 7" development forum.

I don't see a CWM thread in the 7" development forum

If you flash CWM, you need to remove the file /system/etc/install-recovery.sh or /system/recovery-from-boot.p. Otherwise, on every boot, the stock kernel will reflash the recovery partition, leaving you with stock recovery.

shark1327 said:
I don't see a CWM thread in the 7" development forum
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Sorry, I was thinking about the CWM thread in, um, another Tab 2 forum.
Go to the pinned rooting topic in the XDA forum here. Then go to the second post. Then follow the Xoomdev link...
All will be revealed. There's another thread there that addresses overwriting recovery, too.

What rooting method are you using? If your following this forum method you should have Odin and drivers installed. Maybe you didn't have root to begin with? All you need to do is to re Odin and follow instructions.
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I followed the root method in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25503906#post25503906
I used odin when I did it but i rebooted into CWM during the process and when I went back to flash it was stock.
Also how would I remove those files so that it doesnt go back to stock? (sorry for the newbieness... this is very frustrating to me and I can usually understand this fairly well)
EDIT: Figured it out, thanks guys for the help

Had the same error as you, still can't get passed it! :/
Frustrating!

Try a different USB slot. Several folks did that and bypassed initial problems.

help bricked sk4g NEED URGENT HELP

I went to install a rom on my sk4g and something went wrong its just stuck on first load screen and thats it please anyone help

fall3n_soul said:
I went to install a rom on my sk4g and something went wrong its just stuck on first load screen and thats it please anyone help
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You need to ODIN your sidekick back to the stock ROM, it will help you :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186954
good luck!
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If the link is broken, try to download the files for ODIN THERE

Stop being foolish, people.
Root your phone, get clockworkmod, make a backup, and then...
Do not install a rom.
You need to Odin first. That's right. Recover your phone to bone stock. Learn how it works first instead of showing up asking the same dumb questions over and over...
Odin first. Then root it again, get clockworkmod, and restore your backup.
Now, that you know how recovery works, you can start tinkering.
In case you didn't notice (you didn't), there was no development on this phone at all until developers had a way to Odin back to stock. Development started with Odin. Shouldn't you?
Don't wait until you have a problem. Use your head.

orange808 said:
Stop being foolish, people.
Root your phone, get clockworkmod, make a backup, and then...
Do not install a rom.
You need to Odin first. That's right. Recover your phone to bone stock. Learn how it works first instead of showing up asking the same dumb questions over and over...
Odin first. Then root it again, get clockworkmod, and restore your backup.
Now, that you know how recovery works, you can start tinkering.
In case you didn't notice (you didn't), there was no development on this phone at all until developers had a way to Odin back to stock. Development started with Odin. Shouldn't you?
Don't wait until you have a problem. Use your head.
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I learned this the hard way, but no one seems to be posting anything decent on how to make CWM the default and permanent recovery. Whenever I do the three button thingy, it always boots into stock recovery. Doing the update thingy through stock recovery didn't work either. It just gets me to CWM temporarily, and then the next time I boot into the device I get stock recovery all over again. Plz help?

T3kB0i said:
I learned this the hard way, but no one seems to be posting anything decent on how to make CWM the default and permanent recovery. Whenever I do the three button thingy, it always boots into stock recovery. Doing the update thingy through stock recovery didn't work either. It just gets me to CWM temporarily, and then the next time I boot into the device I get stock recovery all over again. Plz help?
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There's a fake flash Windows utility that uses the original root program and script, but it installs clockworkmod instead of rooting your phone. The idea was to use it after you rooted your rom. sduvick posted it. It is an ugly hack, but it works.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cedw9551tl1riu5

orange808 said:
There's a fake flash Windows utility that uses the original root program and script, but it installs clockworkmod instead of rooting your phone. The idea was to use it after you rooted your rom. sduvick posted it. It is an ugly hack, but it works.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cedw9551tl1riu5
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When I tried that utility, it boots into stock recovery, and when I tell it to re-install packages, it tells me that it isn't able to verify the signature?